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10 Oct 05 - 09:01 AM (#1580031)
Subject: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: *daylia*

It's Turkey Time in Canada...

...sit down and have some fun!

Try this one if your mousie's bored

And this if you like guns.

(No luck? Still feel a bit grumpy? Just click here. )

Happy Day!


10 Oct 05 - 09:12 AM (#1580043)
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From: Steve Latimer

Happy Thanksgiving fellow Canucks. We had ours yesterday, had a Thanksgiving Dinner that couldn't be beat.


10 Oct 05 - 09:40 AM (#1580057)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: sian, west wales

I had mine last week as I was working yesterday and there's no holiday in Britain. Still have Turkey in the freezer and it's turkey soup for supper. A festival that keeps on giving ....

Happy Thanksgiving!

siân


10 Oct 05 - 12:43 PM (#1580219)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: *daylia*

Yup! And for the Native North/Americans, Turkey really just kept/keeps on giving too, providing feathers to make warm winter capes (the Oddo peoples, Texas)

ceremonial headdresses (Tarahumara, Mexico)

even wedding gowns (Cherokee, eastern woodlands)


10 Oct 05 - 02:16 PM (#1580302)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Mooh

Had two Thanksgiving dinners and so much for which to be thankful. Dinner one was at home with wife and kids. Dinner two was at the family cottage with the extended family, which is smaller again this year. Had a good hike in the woods with my dog and my brother, and a good walk along the shore with my oldest daughter. Had to take the same daughter to the train this morning as she's off to school again, an act which breaks my heart and makes me proud all at once. All in all though, a good weekend among family.

Peace and love at Thanksgiving, friends!

Peace, Mooh.


10 Oct 05 - 02:44 PM (#1580333)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: dianavan

As usual, I was up until 2:00 A.M. making pies, sweet potatoes, and cranberry relish. We will have roasted chicken instead of turkey because of the number of folks who are vegetarian. Just too many turkey leftovers as a result.

I am always happy to harvest what is left in the garden. It makes it more meaningful to me when the food we share is homegrown. Looks like the garden will give, squash, potatoes, brocoli, arugula, mizuna, tomatoes, chard, parsley and raspberries.

Happy Thanksgiving and enjoy your prosperity.


10 Oct 05 - 02:55 PM (#1580344)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Elmer Fudd

Howdy y'all. I'm a stranger in these parts. Please enlighten my ignorant self. What do you fine folks give thanks for in the land of the Maple Leaf, if not for setting foot on Plymouth Rock? (Maybe for NOT hanging your hats in the future US of A?)

Times have changed
Oftentimes we've rewound the clock
Since the Puritans got a shock
When they landed on Plymouth Rock.
If today any shock they should try to stem
'stead of landing on Plymouth Rock
Plymouth Rock would land on them!

---Cole Porter, "Anything Goes"


10 Oct 05 - 03:14 PM (#1580363)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: CarolC

Happy Thanksgiving!


10 Oct 05 - 03:15 PM (#1580364)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Clinton Hammond

Ug...

Too.....

Much........

Fooood........

:-P


10 Oct 05 - 05:18 PM (#1580468)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: sian, west wales

I always supposed that Canadian Thanksgiving was a 'version' of the British 'Harvest Thanksgiving'. Britain celebrates it around the same time, but without a fixed dated. Most of the churches and chapels have their harvest festival on one of the first two Sundays in October.

sian


10 Oct 05 - 05:20 PM (#1580471)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Peace

BURP!


10 Oct 05 - 05:44 PM (#1580493)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: number 6

please ... excuse yourself Peace!

We jumped the gun and had our thanksgiving last weekend ... my cousin, and his wife),who I haven't seen for 12 years was up here visiting us in SJ ... it was special, not only having him here, but also it was our grandson Ry's first thanksgiving ... it was a good family gathering and feast.

Happy Thanksgiving Canada.

sIx


10 Oct 05 - 07:04 PM (#1580554)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: gnu

Turkey, ham, potatoes, carrots, turnip, squash, green beans, wax beans, cauliflower, broccoli, brussel sprouts, gravy, coleslaw, chow, cranberry sauce & jelly, various pickled fruits and veggies, pumpkin cheesecake... and the families together. I hope everyone had a good celebration.


10 Oct 05 - 09:07 PM (#1580608)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Elmer Fudd

So no one is gonna tell me what y'all are grateful for? I'm gonna have to resort to (gulp) Google??????

Pesky wabbits....


10 Oct 05 - 10:28 PM (#1580650)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Mooh

Mr. Fudd...Maybe we're thankful for patience. And, health care, education, gun laws, parliamentary democracy, good luthiers, international friends, freedom of religion, and for the time being a few good places to catch fish.

Peace, Mooh.


10 Oct 05 - 10:38 PM (#1580654)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Elmer Fudd

TouchÚ, Mooh.


10 Oct 05 - 10:56 PM (#1580671)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: GUEST

... and don't forget peace loving people.

sIx


10 Oct 05 - 11:06 PM (#1580678)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Peace

Amen to that, bro.


10 Oct 05 - 11:33 PM (#1580698)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Elmer Fudd

The question was a friendly, peace-loving one, though. I know y'all think we're arrogant, ethnocentric a-holes down this way, but I only know the Plymouth Rock, Squanto, Injuns helping Puritans through the first winter version of Thanksgiving. That's all my second grade teacher deigned to tell me. I was merely curious about the Canuck Thanksgiving tradition, to chew on while I wait another six weeks or so for my plate of turkey and trimmings.

Elmer


10 Oct 05 - 11:42 PM (#1580702)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: number 6

That's basically the story what we were taught too Elmer .... we have it earlier because, well, we have to feast on the harvested crops before the cold sets in ... one belessing is that our Thanksgiving hasn't evolved into the grand premier day of Xmas shopping madness as it has down below the border.

sIx


10 Oct 05 - 11:50 PM (#1580706)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Peace

"I know y'all think we're arrogant, ethnocentric a-holes down this way"

Ya know wrong about that, Elmer. That is NOT at all what the majority of Canadians think. Certainly not what I think either.


10 Oct 05 - 11:57 PM (#1580708)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: number 6

Peace is correct on that statement Elmer. Certainly not what I think also

sIx


11 Oct 05 - 12:07 AM (#1580712)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Elmer Fudd

Well shucks guys, thanks a bunch. We're always gettin' blasted for not knowing anybody's history but our own, so I thought I'd better eat some crow in advance before askin'. Whew. I feel so much better.

Elmer


11 Oct 05 - 12:15 AM (#1580720)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Elmer Fudd

PS: A Happy Thankgiving to y'all.

And thanks for Farley Mowat too.


11 Oct 05 - 12:23 AM (#1580723)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: number 6

HeHe .... and I thank you for Kirk Vonnegut!

sIx


11 Oct 05 - 04:35 AM (#1580775)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: sian, west wales

Six, I was always taught (as a Canadian) ABOUT the American tradition but it was never put across to us - except by Hallmark cards - that it was also the Canadian tradition. OK - the choice of turkey is probably tied in with the whole Pilgrim story. Elmer, that's why I made my first comment, above: to point out that I'm fairly sure that the Canadian tradition is a continuation of the British (and possibly other European) traditions. It's a HARVEST Thanksgiving.

And I, too, am thankful for a lot of what Mooh and Six (guest) listed. Except I can't fish worth a damn. Oh - and I would also add that I'm thankful that Canadians celebrate at the beginning of October. No way do I want two turkeys within 4 weeks of each other! (It happened once in boyfriend terms. Never again.)

siân


11 Oct 05 - 05:47 AM (#1580807)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: gnu

I am thankful for the "Bugs Bunny and Road Runner Show". Hmmm, how did their Thanksgiving tribute start? A farm scene I believe. With a big tom turkey strutting across the barnyard... and a voiceover...

"Good morning Tom. Great day to be alive , isn't it? Think you can staaaaay that way? Oh, it's nothing.... just that I see farmer Fudd over there.... sharpening his... AXE! And, the day after tomorrow IS Thanksgiving, isn't it Tom?"

Priceless.


11 Oct 05 - 08:38 AM (#1580894)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: number 6

Jeeeeeez gnu ..... that's it .... lay the 'ol guilt trip on. Think I'll go back to being a vegetarian again.

sian ... it is more of a Harvest thing ... sorta coincides with the fall fairs ... give thanks to the Big Guy, Goddess or whatever for having a plentiful bounty of crops, thanks for making it through another year.

sIx :)


11 Oct 05 - 10:10 AM (#1580951)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: *daylia*

Well, for those with a burning need to know, here's the official Proclamation and Observance of General Thanksgiving Days and reasons therefore (Canadian Heritage pages, CBC)

Apparently the first "official" Thanksgiving Day here was in Lower Canada (Quebec) on Jan 10, 1799, "In signal victory over our enemy and for the manifold and inestimable blessings which our Kingdoms and Provinces have received and daily continue to receive."

In Upper Canada (Ontario), the first Thanksgiving was observed June 18 1816, in gratitude for the end of the war between Great Britain and France. After Confederation, the first Thanksgiving was April 15 1872, "for the restoration to health of H.R.H. the Prince of Wales".

In the 19th and early 20th centuries, the dates for officially proclaimed Thanksgiving celebrations seem to be all over the map, and the reasons included:

"End of the war with the United States of America and restoration of the blessings of Peace" (April 6, 1815)

"For God's mercies and cessation of grievous disease" (Jan 3 1850)

and "Blessings of an abundant harvest" (Oct 18, 1920)

In 1957, the second Monday of Oct was fixed by proclamation as the official Thanksgiving Day, "For general thanksgiving to Almighty God for the blessings with which the people of Canada have been favoured."

All very interesting, but I have read other accounts which state that the peoples of Canada celebrated the traditional European harvest festival of Thanksgiving long before it was ever declared by official statute. One such article claims that the explorer Martin Frobisher celebrated the first Thanksgiving here when he landed in Newfoundland in the 1500's, in gratitude for a safe and successful voyage. And that was WAY (and I do mean way!) before Plymouth Rock!    :-)

ANd whether or not this has anything to do with traditional Thanksgiving menus, I do know that wild turkeys were hunted to extinction here in Ontario in the 1900's. A few American turkeys were re-introduced into the wild here about 10 years ago though - and now, flocks (or is it "gaggles"??) of wild turkeys are a common sight in my locale.

I remember the first time I came across one, out for a run on the hiking trails through the forest nearby. Just about had a cardiac - I'd never seen a bird that large on the ground before. Thought it was an ostrich at first!


11 Oct 05 - 10:13 AM (#1580952)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Peace

Many of my students had turkey. An equal number had elk, deer, moose, chicken, ham, fish and beef. A few vegetarians--myself included (I eat meat very rarely) had other things.


11 Oct 05 - 02:06 PM (#1581124)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: number 6

Thanks for that info *daylia*. I certainly didn't realize the official proclamation of Canadian Thanksgiving was only back in 1957. Interesting.

My wife and I almost ran over a gaggle of wild turkeys over on Deer Is. a couple of years ago .... first time I ever saw one (or a bunch) .. my first reaction was a herd of wild buzzards ... anyway, these birds are protected by by law over there ... apparently they have a free run of the island.

sIx


11 Oct 05 - 06:21 PM (#1581343)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Elmer Fudd

Gnu, I gotta sharpen that axe for 34 MORE DAZE down this-away!!!!!!!!!!!! Heh heh heh. Wabbit stew in the meantime, if only...

Farmer Fudd


11 Oct 05 - 06:30 PM (#1581349)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: sian, west wales

1957? Gee, I must ask my mum what she did prior to that. I bet it was still Harvest Thanksgiving.

I saw my first flock (oh, there HAS to be a better collective noun!) of wild turkeys in the Niagara Penninsula September last year. Mum says they're playing havoc with the crops. Quite a thrill to see them, though.

siân


07 Oct 06 - 09:55 AM (#1852712)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: bobad

It's that time again, time to take stock of our bounty and to be thankful for the good life, that we here in Canada, have.


07 Oct 06 - 10:50 AM (#1852743)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: GUEST,thurg

Never thought much about it before - but we got a heavy dose of Pilgrims and Indians when I was a kid in school; we were clearly given to believe that this was the basis of Thanksgiving. Much as I'd like to blame this on some sneaky Yankee plot to take over Canada by the back door, in retrospect it was no doubt simply an excuse to have kids make headgear out of construction paper and put on little plays. Let's face it, the Americans have it all over us when it comes to myth-making.


07 Oct 06 - 11:56 AM (#1852777)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: bobad

For rural people anyway, it is more of a harvest festival - the crops have been harvested, the root cellar stocked, pickles preseved - time to celebrate a successful growing season by feasting on the bounty and getting prepared to hunker down and ride out another winter.


07 Oct 06 - 12:34 PM (#1852795)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: GUEST,Bee

I'm wondering where the Canadians who caught the Plymouth-pilgrim-helpful natives motif went to school. My elementary schooling in NS never suggested those items, except in reference to other people's celebrations. We were told it was a harvest festival, a time for thankfulness for the bounty of fields and gardens. Also, our churches (united, presbyterian, methodist, that I know for sure) decorated the altars with heaps of produce and breads and thanked God for his having given us all these goodies (and I suppose for holding off on the unseasonable frosts, droughts, six-inch hailstones and the like).

Turkey wasn't always the meal of choice, though I think it's a great meal, one U.S. custom I'm happy to see Canadians mimic. ;-D When I was a kid (in the dark ages, mind), it was more likely to be ham or venison.

This weekend it's gonna be a fat domestic duck with wild picked-em-myself cranberries, squash, parsnips, carrots, potatos and greasy duck gravy. (Falls over from cholesteral overdose...)


07 Oct 06 - 12:51 PM (#1852805)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: GUEST,thurg

Okay - southern Ontario.


07 Oct 06 - 12:55 PM (#1852811)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: GUEST,Bee

Ah, too close to the border, perhaps - folklore creepage. ;-D


07 Oct 06 - 02:51 PM (#1852869)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: gnu

Pumpkin pie.


07 Oct 06 - 04:33 PM (#1852923)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Clinton Hammond

Stuff it, fellow Canadians!

(With gravy please)

:-)


07 Oct 06 - 05:47 PM (#1852972)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Peter T.

What we really need is a February holiday, though I will take this one gladly. The weather is so beautiful one can hardly stand it.

yours,

Peter T.


07 Oct 06 - 07:19 PM (#1853024)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Big Mick

Thanks offered from south of the border for the land of many friends, great music, great beer, and a more than I can mention here.

Mick


07 Oct 06 - 07:38 PM (#1853036)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Clinton Hammond

"a February holiday"

The 2nd is Groundhog day....

The 14th is Valentines Day

The 18 (16th??) is Chinese New Year....

Pick one... call in blind.... Tell work "I can't see myself coming in today."


07 Oct 06 - 07:47 PM (#1853039)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Divis Sweeney

To my dear friends in Canada, number Six, peace and all the rest of you.

May your God smile upon you and bring health, happiness and wealth for the years ahead.

Best wishes and goodnight from the Emerald Isle of Ireland.
DS


07 Oct 06 - 08:04 PM (#1853044)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Peace

Goodnight, Divis, and thank you very much.


07 Oct 06 - 11:14 PM (#1853119)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

A bright harvest moon outside. Need a different name because harvest here in Alberta was over fairly early last month.

Raised in New Mexico, we didn't get much about the pilgrims in school, but the American thanksgiving holiday pretty well coincided with local harvest festivities of the descendants of the Spanish, and later, Mexican peoples who lost the land to American expansion, and the Indians who before that had lost control of the land to the Spanish.

The Merriam turkey is native to the Southwest and southern Rockies, and often we managed to have a wild bird for the celebration (some males weigh up to 40 pounds). The bird was seen here and described by the Spaniard, Casteñada, the historian with the Coronado Expedition of 1540, who was impressed by the "cocks with great hanging chins." Its meat was appreciated by settlers and Indians here long before those late-comers to America, the pilgrams, landed on their rock.

The central New Mexico area was sufficiently settled by 1610 that a "Historia de la Nueva Mexico" was published that year (A most unusual book, the history is written poetically, in cantos, by Capitan Gaspar de Villagra, and can be found on the web).

Canada once had turkeys in southern Ontario, but I believe that they are extinct in the wild.


07 Oct 06 - 11:40 PM (#1853120)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Clinton Hammond

" Canada once had turkeys in southern Ontario, but I believe that they are extinct in the wild."

No... They're still around. We just elected them all to Parliment Hill.


08 Oct 06 - 04:11 AM (#1853166)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Metchosin

Fortunately there are still wild turkeys in south eastern BC and unfortunately some of the other kind in Victoria too.

Which reminds me that one afternoon I was channel surfing and was delighted to see a nature programme on wild turkeys. I was watching a close up of a beautiful tom strutting his stuff, when all of a sudden his head exploded on the screen in a hail of gunfire. Seems it wasn't exactly a nature programme, but Michigan Outdoors.LOL

All the best to everyone, have a great weekend!


08 Oct 06 - 07:10 AM (#1853200)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Mooh

Wild turkeys were reintroduced in the "wild" southern Ontario years ago. There are a few places where they like to sun themselves on the road around here. They were also (maybe) illegally released 25-30 years ago in select places, though I don't know if those birds successfully parented a surviving population.

Am leaving shortly for an overnight stay with family for Thanksgiving, store bought turkey, home made pie and everything else. It's one of the few times of the year when we have all the extended family together.

Peace, Mooh.


08 Oct 06 - 08:32 AM (#1853226)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: *daylia*

You're right, Mooh -- wild turkeys were re-introduced here (mid-Ontario) in the early 90's. I'll never forget that first close encounter, jogging on the skidoo trails through the reforestation areas -- she'd suddenly run out from the thick underbrush and cut in about 10 feet ahead of me on the trail. Kept pace with me for a good half mile -   'bout scared the livin's right outta me at first too. I'd never seen a feathered creature so large and so close to home -- figured it must be an ostrich. Or maybe an emu .... 8-)

Today, gaggles prides (flip, what are they called ....) flocks (I hope) of wild turkeys are a common sight here -- conglomerating in the fields and forests and even the city parks in Barrie, holding up traffic as they cross the roads in single file etc etc. Strange-looking birds, but they do command respect!

The wild turkeys have an interesting relationship with the other wildlife around here too. Jogging on those same snowmobile trails early in the morning one winter's day, I'd taken a sidetrack through the forest trying to find out why the crows were cawing up such a godawful ruckus. Found them -- a whole flock of 'em perched in the trees, screeching and croaking away ... and sure enough, right in front of them was a whole herd roost sheesh flock of wild turkeys, also roosting in the trees on the other side of the path. Puzzled, I stood there trying to figure out what it was about the turkeys that excited the crows so much, when all of a sudden a WOLF -- no kidding, an honest-to-god-timber-wolf (they were also hunted to extinction around here till reintroduced in recent times) -- ran by, at the edge of a farmer's field just beside where those turkeys were roosting. WOW! I'd never seen a wolf in the wild before ....

So, what was going on there, d'ya think?   Were the crows warning the turkeys that the wolf was nearby? Or were they giving the wolf strategic information ie "Your brekkie awaits, right up here in the trees ... and we're on stand-by to clean up your scraps!"   Hmmmmm .....

Anyway, thanks for listening to my turkey stories, and have a wonderful Thanksgiving one and all!

daylia


08 Oct 06 - 08:39 AM (#1853227)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: *daylia*

Y'know, I just noticed that I was the one who started this thread -- and that I told the story about the turkeys before too. Or, part of it anyway -- so sorry bout the repetition. Didn't read the whole thread before I posted, just the last couple posts ... it's early in the day ....


08 Oct 06 - 09:29 AM (#1853240)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Steve Latimer

Happy Thanksgiving fellow Canucks. Our family is not that big on turkey, we are having Steak & Lobster today.


08 Oct 06 - 01:17 PM (#1853349)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Turkeys in British Columbia are not native. They have been introduced since 1970 (not listed in Godfrey, Birds of Canada, 1970, National Museums of Canada) if present. Probably introduced in the 1990's at the same time they were re-introduced to Ontario. Thanks, Daylia, I need a more up-to-date Canadian bird book.

In adjoining Washington, turkey permits were issued to 277 hunters in 2005.
Re-introduction of wild turkeys to suitable habitat has led to their presence in every state (including Oahu in Hawai'i) except Alaska.

I should also note that the Merriam turkey of the southwest is a subspecies, not a distinct species separate from M. gallipavo.


08 Oct 06 - 05:05 PM (#1853487)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Metchosin

Thanks Q, I knew that the wild turkeys introduced on the coast here in the early 1950's didn't survive, but I assumed that the ones I saw in the interior on Canadian side of the BC/Idaho border near Creston were native. I didn't realize Idaho had introduced them and that birds don't recognized borders.


09 Oct 06 - 04:23 PM (#1854342)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Mooh

Encountered a steaming pile of bear shit on the gravel road near our family place this morning around 4. Lots of road kill raccoons, red fox, skunks, and one deer on the way home along highway 21, but no wild turkeys.

Thanksgiving dinner was very good, and all my family was there. God, I love pumpkin!

Peace, Mooh.


09 Oct 06 - 08:04 PM (#1854546)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Beer

Thank you to all you Non-Canadian's for wishing us well.


09 Oct 06 - 09:24 PM (#1854576)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

You might try this one, Mooh.

Q's PUMPKIN PIE

796 ml fancy pumpkin
(1lb. 13 oz tin)*
1 cup demerara sugar
1 cup white sugar
2 tablespoons fancy molasses
1/2 teaspoon pure vanilla
1/4 teaspoon powdered cloves
3 teaspoons cinnamon
1 1/2 teaspoons ginger
1/2 teaspoon allspice
1 teaspoon salt
4 large eggs, slightly beaten
2 cups scalded milk (2% OK)

Mix in order given and bake** in pastry shells. Makes two pies.
Fifteen minutes at 425 degrees F.
1 hour at 325 degrees F.

When served, top with generous amount of whipped cream.
For two pies- 1/2 pint whipping cream, 1 tablespoon powdered sugar, 1 teaspoon brandy, or, pure vanilla extract. Chill ingredients and utensils thoroughly before beating.

*E. D. Smith pure pumpkin is always uniform in quality. It is made with Dickinson pumpkin which has a good flavor.
**We are at 3500 feet.


10 Oct 06 - 07:55 AM (#1854791)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Mooh

Q...Thanks very much! I'll print it out immediately! We'll probably substitute our own or local fresh pumpkin.

Peace, Mooh.


10 Oct 06 - 05:48 PM (#1855283)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

We used fresh pumpkin when we were in Illinois, and had a source of Dickinson pumpkins, which are the best for pies, etc.
This is a small, oblong pumpkin, seldom over 20 pounds, that looks more like a squash.
Here in western Canada, people look for the large, orange-skinned fruits which are suitable for jack-o-lanterns but lack the rich flavor of the Dickinsons. We make do with the canned Dickinson, put up by E. D. Smith, and Libby (brands like Stokley not found or uncommon in stores here).


11 Oct 06 - 04:29 AM (#1855596)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: gnu

Daylia.... crows (ravens?) will kick up an awful racket at the first sign of a predetor and will not stop until it leaves their nesting/roosting area. Turkeys, on the other hand, from what I have learned, will remain silent when given a single warning call from the lead hen. Either way, these birds ain't stupid.

Anyone able to confirm the above regarding turkeys? I have seen this behaviour in Ruffed Grouse but we have no wild turkeys in these here parts, yet.


11 Oct 06 - 09:53 AM (#1855791)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Raptor

I Bar B Q ed my Turkey and it was delish!
We expected it to be dried out but it was perfect.
Friday when I brought the bird home from the butcher there was 14 Wild Turkeys in my driveway and I had to get out of my van and chase them out of the way to park.

Raptor


12 Oct 06 - 09:10 AM (#1856727)
Subject: RE: BS: Happy Canadian Thanksgiving!
From: Mooh

gnu...Can't confirm directly, but I've only once seen a turkey look real pissed and that was when I tossed a stone or stick off the road into the bush and it rushed out, practically pushing me into my truck. Most other times they don't give you any indication they're around, and I've almost stepped on one a few times. If they historically shared the woodlands with large cats and/or wolves, they gotta be smarter than some world leaders.

Peace, Mooh.