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BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue

15 Oct 18 - 04:21 PM (#3956798)
Subject: BS: Wite Man Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Mossback

Fox News[sic] 5 July 2018

President Trump made waves at his Montana rally Thursday night while challenging Senator Elizabeth Warren's claims of a Native American heritage.

"We.... will give you a million dollars to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you're an Indian."


The Washington Post 15 October 2018

Trump promised $1 million to charity if Warren proved her Native American DNA. Now he denies it.

Another reporter brought up his promise of a $1 million charity donation.

“I didn’t say that,” Trump said. “Nah, you’d better read it again.”


What a piece of work is Trump....


15 Oct 18 - 07:41 PM (#3956818)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Joe Offer

It's on Fox News, (click) so it must be the truth, right? Mr. Trump has proved himself to be a bigot time and time again, but this is particularly blatant. I'd call for his impeachment, but I think it's easier to keep this guy under control, than it would be to control Pence. Pence is just as bigoted, but he seems to be so noble....
It is absolutely unbelievable that a President of the United States should speak like this.

-Joe-


15 Oct 18 - 09:08 PM (#3956826)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Mossback

And the hits just keep coming:

12 October 2018

It’s Happening Again In Georgia.

Republican Brian Kemp on Wednesday, in response to the latest accusation that he has blocked 53,000 Georgians from registering to vote, issued a statement that included one particularly noteworthy phrase.

“Despite what you hear or read, the numbers are clear. While outside agitators disparage this office and falsely attack us, we have kept our heads down and remained focused on ensuring secure, accessible, and fair elections for all voters,” Kemp said in a statement through his state office website.

“Brian Kemp refers to his critics as ‘outside agitators.’ You can’t make this stuff up!” tweeted Joseph Crespino, professor of 20th century U.S. history and chair of the history department at Emory University in Atlanta.

“There are only two scenarios here. Either this is just a term that is in the back of [Kemp’s] mind and he doesn’t think about it. That’s unfortunate because it means he’s ignorant — that Brian Kemp doesn’t understand the long history of this term and how it’s been used,” Crespino said. “I think, given the way Brian Kemp ran his campaign in the primaries, that he used it with every intention and that he knew the kind of way that term resonates.”

One of Georgia’s most famous white supremacists, the late Gov. Lester Maddox, often used the term “outside agitators” to dismiss those who protested his refusal to serve three African-American Georgia Tech students at his restaurant in Atlanta.


Absolutely - you CAN'T make this stuff up. The Republican party has devolved into the racist slime of the 1920's-1950's.

That's what they mean when the say they want to make AmeriKKKa great again.

And it seems to be working a treat.

------------

Tom Paxton, 1964: "We Didn't Know"

We didn't know", said the congregation, signing a hymn in their church of white
The Press [fake news?] was full of lies about us, preacher told us we were right.
The outside agitators came, they burned some churches and put the blame
On decent southern people's names to set our Colored people aflame
And maybe some of our boys got hot and a couple of niggers and reds got shot
They should have stayed where they belonged! Preacher would have told us if we'd done wrong.


Tom, dammit, we need you now more than ever.

Best,

Bill


15 Oct 18 - 09:10 PM (#3956827)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Mossback

Oh, and Mr. Offer - you think Trump is being kept under control?

Excuse me?????


16 Oct 18 - 12:52 AM (#3956836)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Joe Offer

No, Bill, we're not able to keep Trump under control - but at least we can see what he's doing and prevent the worst of what he wants. I think Pence would be able to do more harm, because he's been able to keep under the radar.

But methinks thou waxest too serious.... hardly anyone here likes Trump, so not to worry. Best just to make fun of him here.

-Joe-


16 Oct 18 - 08:12 AM (#3956866)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Donuel

Ypu might think you can keep up exposing the blatant Trump lies but they come at such a rate you will not be able keep up. Believe me I tried.

I need, We need to write a country song that puts Trump directly opposite of honor patriotism and freedom


16 Oct 18 - 11:20 AM (#3956906)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Mossback

Well, Joe,I take your point, I'd be interested to hear your practical plans for preventing what Trump and his cohorts want. While the Orange Menace is texting, the criminals he's surrounded himself with and the gutless Republican Wonders in Congress are licking his arse and enacting his agenda.

The Bruce person and the Bobad person and the Iains person are some of his strongest supporters, and there are others here as well. What they may lack in numbers they certainly make up for in volume, output, and vituperation.

If you're not seriously worried about what Trump and his Flock of Felons* are doing you should be- any thinking person is. And the very LAST thing these people and this situation are is funny.

Telling jokes ain't gonna get this crap fascist administration out of office.

Best,

Bill

* Thank you, Dan Rather.


16 Oct 18 - 03:32 PM (#3956948)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Donuel

I defend good ideas that doesn't include guns.

"Stand up America. where at least I know I'm free"
Was not a joke but a credo for the right.
Kneeling America is part of that fight for the heart of a nation.

As America gives up on value after value there comes a time where they have to recognize what they value is not a loyalty to a fat lieing corrupt fascist ingenuous man. The proper name can not be used and the devil is too lucifurious.

The anthym can not be a joke. It must be a proud reminder of our debt to our fathers who fought fascism or even a more emotional appeal.

Well, BLANK ,I take your point, I'd be interested to hear your practical plans for preventing what Trump and his cohorts want

vote?


16 Oct 18 - 03:49 PM (#3956953)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Donuel

If there is ever to be a protest in DC again one will have to pay up to 400,000 dollars for police and clean up first. For a small group or single person protest they must stay on the sidewalk but the 20 ft sidewalks have been reduced to 4 ft on the Mall and around the White house. Trump is hoping no one can claim their first amendment rights are not being abridged. We will see when the arrests for not being on the official sidewalk begins.

The Puerto Rican offices of the mayor of San Juan (the outspoken critic of Trump) were raided on orders by Trump to get to the bottom of corruption.

Papers please deportation, child seperation and internment camps in the desert only 1/2 the gov. positions filled...

The purges continue.

Bill you are dealing with people here who love their cat and broccoli recipee more.


16 Oct 18 - 04:08 PM (#3956959)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Joe Offer

Mossback, I think the very best thing we can do to Trump, is to make him look ridiculous. I think Alec Baldwin should get a Medal of Honor from the next President for Baldwin's service to the country in portraying Trump on Saturday Night Live.

I think that Congress is generally doing a pretty good job of not carrying out Trump's wishes. He got the tax cut and two Supreme Court appointments (the courts are a serious concern), but not much else.

One of my biggest concerns, is what Trump appointees are doing to dismantle the functions of most executive agencies. It's impossible to assess the amount of damage done in that way, but it's clear that damage is considerable.

-Joe-


16 Oct 18 - 06:13 PM (#3956993)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Donuel

Defeating Trumpism is not going to be up to us or attributable to you Joe.
Its up to the women.


16 Oct 18 - 09:50 PM (#3957024)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: leeneia

Didn't anybody film him promising the million? (I can't be bothered to google it.)

Even if he did, he isn't bound to do it, since it is not a contract. Still, it makes him like like a real horse's rear end.


16 Oct 18 - 10:02 PM (#3957027)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: leeneia

This brings back the memories. My mother (100% white) used to say "White father speaks with forked tongue" when a politician was caught being corrupt, etc.


16 Oct 18 - 11:58 PM (#3957033)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Joe Offer

Well, I think Elizabeth Warren just did a good job of making Trump look ridiculous. Her DNA test shows a little bit of Native American ancestry. Will Trump pay up?
Another great demonstration of the power of humor.


17 Oct 18 - 10:40 AM (#3957121)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Mossback

Mr. Offer, you're 'power of humor' now seems to have failed spectacularly in the case of Elizabeth Warren; even the Democrats are pissed off at her.

So go on laughing while the country burns, Mr. Nero.


17 Oct 18 - 01:08 PM (#3957143)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Joe Offer

Put the blame on Trump. Warren had no wish to make an issue. Trump made the issue, and Warren did what she needed to do to shut him up. You cosying up to Trump now, Mossback?


17 Oct 18 - 01:22 PM (#3957145)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Mossback

Hardly, Mr. Offer. Educate yourself.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/16/warren-dna-native-american-905705

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/17/opinion/elizabeth-warren-dna-trump-native-american.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage


17 Oct 18 - 01:34 PM (#3957152)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: keberoxu

Someone is beginning to remind me of gargoyle,
bless his cotton socks.


17 Oct 18 - 02:48 PM (#3957163)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Joe Offer

Yes, Mossback. I can read, too - and I had read similar articles when I posted. I happen to disagree. The blame is Trump's. Warren never made a claim to membership in a tribe. She just said she had a small amount of Native American ancestry and Trump and you and others make a big deal of it.

I think she's a good possible candidate for the Democrats in 2020. And I think this "Pocahontas" thing is a non-issue, except to point out once again the abusive way that Trump addresses people other than himself and his minions who are temporarily in favor. His "Pocahontas" attacks are akin to his mocking attack on Christine Blasey Ford.

Your NY Times link is an opinion piece by Ross Douthat. I often respond to his articles with, "I doubt that...."

-Joe-


17 Oct 18 - 04:17 PM (#3957173)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: leeneia

Attitudes have changed. In the 1930'a, my father's cousin married a Colorado woman who was almost certainly Native. Everybody did their best to hide it, and many in the family were cold to her.

Now Trump thinks that if a person claims Native blood, she's putting on airs.


17 Oct 18 - 06:35 PM (#3957193)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Joe Offer

Here's how Warren tells the story: "My daddy always said he fell head over heels in love with my mother the first time he saw her. But my daddy’s parents, the Herrings, were bitterly opposed to their marrying because my mother’s family, the Reeds, was part Native American. This sort of discrimination was common at the time. So when my momma was 19 and my daddy was 20, they eloped. And together they built a family, my three older brothers and me."

It's a nice family story, and Warren no doubt tells it to show she comes from a normal background with normal family problems. There's a story about the "schism" in my family because my Irish aunt's brother married an Italian, and my aunt wouldn't let her husband and children have anything to do us in the family who had contact with that Italian woman, who was a friend of my mother. So, I didn't see my cousins from the time I was two until I was 60 and my cousins broke their mother's taboo. Some people discriminate, but I prefer to associate with people who don't buy into discrimination. And it's nice to get to know my cousins after all those years of separation.

Warren didn't make a big deal about having an ancestor who was Native American - she just talked about it sometimes because it was a good, folksy story to tell. That is, until Trump came on the scene, and found a way to capitalize on the story by calling her "Pocahontas" - telling the story over and over again, even to a group of Navajo code talkers. And then, in another mocking speech, he offered a million-dollar donation to charity if Warren would take a DNA test to determine if she had any Native American ancestry.

There are some who are trying to say Warren insulted Native Americans by taking Trump up on his dare, but that's downright silly. Warren wasn't trying to claim membership in a tribe or collect tribal benefits or take advantage of minority status. Nothing like that at all. She was just trying to silence Trump and his insults, which were insulting to Warren, to women, and to Native Americans. As shown in his mocking comments about Christine Blasey Ford, Trump likes to insult women, and his "deplorable" followers eat it up.

So, don't put the blame on Senator Elizabeth Warren. Put the blame where it belongs - on Donald Trump, who is an embarrassment to the nation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vprPfVArxTM


17 Oct 18 - 07:55 PM (#3957200)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Mossback

As usual, Mr. Offer, you've missed the point entirely- rather like claiming congress has kept Agent Orange under control.

Pity.


17 Oct 18 - 08:20 PM (#3957201)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Donuel

Easy we can not do without Joe.
JUST NOW I MADE A CONNECTION...

TRUMP IS THE COWARDLY LION !
He has the same colored long hair and the same cowardice always trying to cover up with bullying and a lie. The tragedy is there was no wizard in his life to give him a potion or a medal of courage except for dad's cash. He will forever seek the loyalty of those who might give him the appearance of courage, failing that he'll take the money.

The cowardly lion, as you recall, was not that smart and talked in a rather unsophisticated manner. In the book his buddy was the hungry tiger who was an obsequious Cohen figure.
A song about the cowardly lion should be able to see through easily.


17 Oct 18 - 08:37 PM (#3957203)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Donuel

great minds think alike


17 Oct 18 - 10:42 PM (#3957208)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: frogprince

Just as to be expected. Half the country is buying that video that Hillary and the fake media doctored up so that it looks like Trump promised to make a donation if Warren took a DNA test and proved native ancestry. It probably wasn't even necessary for her find the actual native descendent to give her the DNA sample to submit.


17 Oct 18 - 11:31 PM (#3957212)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Stilly River Sage

Mossback, it's difficult to see what you're fishing for. Warren spoke to her base, who are sympathetic. Trump has the Democrats running in circles and those who aren't settled on a candidate for 2020 are the ones doing the criticizing.

Yes there was "tape" of Trump offering millions if someone came up with Obama's birth certificate, and yes there was tape of Trump challenging Warren, offering a donation if she could prove American Indian ancestry. Trump seems impervious to shame when people ask him to honor his offer on those challenges. But the news cycle runs so fast and memories so short, it will pass, and the only thing that is going to defeat Trump is a fatal coronary after all of the Big Macs he prefers. The sooner the better for all concerned.


18 Oct 18 - 02:25 AM (#3957221)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Backwoodsman

Where's Lee Harvey Oswald when you need him? ;-)


18 Oct 18 - 11:24 AM (#3957280)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Donuel

"Put em up put em up, I'll pulverize ya by sueifying you into poverty, you Loco Poco, and I'll deport you into an Indian Nation where you belong. Or would'ya like to see what my friends Kim, Vladimir or Salam would do to you. Dizzy Liz and her mob of dangerous evil democrat party are the enemy of people and terrible traitors who must be locked up RRRUUEMPH ! "


19 Oct 18 - 04:14 PM (#3957439)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Donuel

Tom Paxton http://ddpro.ucoz.com/songs/overthefalls.mp3


19 Oct 18 - 09:21 PM (#3957492)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: McGrath of Harlow

The man's orange anyway, not white.


22 Oct 18 - 08:16 AM (#3957843)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Donuel

Orange Suprmacists are the worst. However Trump has gone with a more yellow dye since his election.

The bump stock ban is hung up and may take another couple years for any action.
The separated children detention centers are still full of over 1300
kids.
The wall is still in a 7th century feedback loop with no action.

Troops are to report to the border to fend off desperate Guatamalan famlies. Will they shoot?

Family values has changed regarding lieing, encouraging assault and battery, not believing women and daughters, locking up the evil criminal mobs of democrat traitors and murdering fake news journalists. There is still no finalized action to counter opioids despite the Senate paaing a bill 98 to on The one was a republican.
Trump ordered breaking the Reagan nuclear treaty with Russia and begin an arms race. This sounds like an introduction to war, but where?


22 Oct 18 - 08:59 AM (#3957854)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Donuel

Obama's Fault


06 Nov 18 - 10:49 PM (#3960466)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: keberoxu

I agree with Donuel:
Trumplestiltskin looked like an ash-blond the other night.

Oh, and on television I watched Caitlyn Jenner under moderate lighting.
Oh dear oh dear.
The makeup was better suited to darkness with brilliant lights,
not lighting that approximates daytime.
In fact the makeup contours went in one direction,
and the bone contours under the skin went in quite another,
and you could see both overlapping ... it looked amateurish.

Anyway, the 2018 election.
Massachusetts Senatorial incumbent Elizabeth Warren has easily
won herself a second term,
so she is still there for Trumplestiltskin to take aim at.

Driving the car, I had NPR Public Radio on, covering the early results.
And remarking on Trumplestiltskin.
The Washington Post was quoted at length,
to the effect that the candidates' speeches are issue-focused,
while Trumple is so different in his emphases ...
no, I gotta be careful here. I almost put words in someone's mouth.

So, my words:
Trump's speeches of late have sounded like he comes
from another ... world.
Cue the voice of Rod Serling,
or if you like,
of Mark Russell impersonating Rod Serling:

"galaxies removed from our own."


07 Nov 18 - 09:31 PM (#3960622)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: keberoxu

And then there was the Wed. 7 November White House press conference
where the President and members of the press
verbally wrestled with each other ,
and it's really hard to tell who started it and who fought back ...
like little kids, already.


07 Nov 18 - 10:52 PM (#3960633)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Thompson

The pressman just wanted his question answered and Trump was determined to do his job. Then he said the reporter didn't deserve to be employed by his employer! Now the reporter's White House press pass has been withdrawn. It's a pretty chilling sign when a president only wants men who agree with him around. As the sinister demagogue Caesar says in Shakespeare's play:

Let me have men about me that are fat;
Sleek-headed men and such as sleep o' nights:
Yond Cassius has a lean and hungry look;
He thinks too much: such men are dangerous.


09 Nov 18 - 11:52 AM (#3960920)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Donuel

FEAR It's the oldest tool of power. If you are distracted by fear of those around you it keeps you from seeing the actions of those above.


09 Nov 18 - 03:29 PM (#3960947)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Mossback

And then there's the doctored video from Asshole.Com.

Orwell would be appalled - or gratified re: his prediction??

FUCK TRUMP


09 Nov 18 - 05:48 PM (#3960969)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Donuel

Speaking of predictions, I guessed 31 more Dem seats in the House.
I think I am spot on.

It can be better to listen to a wise amateur than a loud expert.


12 Nov 18 - 05:18 PM (#3961419)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Backwoodsman

Donald can't go out in the rain...


13 Nov 18 - 10:36 AM (#3961514)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Mossback

Yeah, well, he couldn't be bothered going to Arlington National Cemetery, either. Way to "support our troops", asshole!


13 Nov 18 - 10:56 AM (#3961517)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Mossback

Oh WAIT! He's honoring 'em by deploying them to the Mexico border - a useless political stunt - so they'll miss Thanksgiving with their families.

Nice job, President Dumbshit.


14 Nov 18 - 10:15 AM (#3961621)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Donuel

General Kelly will be fired over this 'optics' fiasco despite the fact Kelly advised Trump otherwise.

Nationalists are not patriotic by nature and in Donnie's case psychopathology.


14 Nov 18 - 11:46 AM (#3961630)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Donuel

"Dead Veterans are losers"
?


14 Nov 18 - 03:25 PM (#3961658)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: keberoxu

I never before heard of amicus briefs.

The Hill reports on the media companies -- remarking that many have the same law firm -- filing in support of CNN's lawsuit, and that includes Fox News.


14 Nov 18 - 05:15 PM (#3961676)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Donuel

Have you heard of 'friends of the Court'?


14 Nov 18 - 05:52 PM (#3961686)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Mossback

Don't get too excited about Fux "News"[sic] - Trump's Ministry of Propaganda is attempting to put a gloss of legitimacy on their standard spew of lies & bullshit.

They'll soon revert to type.


15 Nov 18 - 08:16 AM (#3961778)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Donuel

Trump has tweeted in detail how to commit voter fraud.
"Go back and wear a hat and vote again, change your shirt and vote again..."


17 Nov 18 - 11:03 AM (#3962067)
Subject: Mr. Trump, why you will never be a Hitler
From: Donuel

While you do demand absolute loyalty you are not in your early 30's.
You don't have the energy, stamina or sanity to achieve an ultimate power grab.

Secondly while you have re-awakened hatred you have not delivered the people from any real crises, you have made most crises worse.

Finally, You are unable to slay your opponents with anything more than school yard insults. YOU ARE A PERSONAL COWARD WITH NO UNDERSTANDING
of history or a wisdom beyond self indulgence.


17 Nov 18 - 11:09 AM (#3962070)
Subject: RE:White Man Trump is not insane enough
From: Donuel

While you are insane, you are not as cleverly insane as Hitler.


17 Nov 18 - 11:12 AM (#3962071)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: keberoxu

belated response
no, I had never heard of friends of the court


17 Nov 18 - 11:15 AM (#3962076)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Donuel

Bon Ami-cus
briefs are the same.


19 Nov 18 - 04:36 PM (#3962359)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Donuel

Many appointees have been deliberately raked over the coals but Donnie does not know a thing about actual raking coals and firefighting.


19 Nov 18 - 05:58 PM (#3962365)
Subject: RE: BS: White Man Trump Speaks With Forked Tongue
From: Mossback

MARA:

Make America Rake Again.