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BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge

Elmer Fudd 30 Jan 07 - 09:11 PM
Beer 30 Jan 07 - 09:15 PM
Alba 30 Jan 07 - 09:23 PM
Cluin 30 Jan 07 - 10:47 PM
John Hardly 31 Jan 07 - 06:45 AM
curmudgeon 31 Jan 07 - 06:58 AM
Keith A of Hertford 31 Jan 07 - 07:22 AM
Richard Bridge 31 Jan 07 - 07:31 AM
Keith A of Hertford 31 Jan 07 - 07:38 AM
Scrump 31 Jan 07 - 07:43 AM
Jerry Rasmussen 31 Jan 07 - 08:10 AM
Bunnahabhain 31 Jan 07 - 08:28 AM
Liz the Squeak 31 Jan 07 - 10:10 AM
greg stephens 31 Jan 07 - 10:53 AM
Bee 31 Jan 07 - 12:59 PM
JohnInKansas 31 Jan 07 - 02:27 PM
MMario 31 Jan 07 - 02:34 PM
GUEST,leeneia 31 Jan 07 - 02:50 PM
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Rapparee 31 Jan 07 - 03:05 PM
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Subject: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Elmer Fudd
Date: 30 Jan 07 - 09:11 PM

Archeologists have uncovered what may have been a village for workers or festival-goers near the mysterious stone circle called Stonehenge in England. The village was located at Durrington Walls, about three kilometres from Stonehenge, and is also the location of a wooden version of the stone circle.

Eight houses have been excavated, and the researchers believe there were at least 25 of them, archeologist Mike Parker Pearson said Tuesday at a briefing held by the U.S. National Geographic Society.

The village was carbon dated to about 2600 BC., about the same time Stonehenge was built. The Great Pyramid in Egypt was also built about then, said Mr. Parker Pearson of Sheffield University.

Archeologists' trenches reveal clay floors of Neolithic houses at Durrington Walls, occupied by the builders of Stonehenge. Hundreds of people once lived in the enormous ancient settlement in the Stonehenge World Heritage site, said the team of archeologists, partly financed by the National Geographic Society and by the English Heritage. The small wooden houses had a central hearth, he said, and are almost identical to stone houses built in the Orkney Islands.

The researchers speculated that Durrington Walls was a place for the living and Stonehenge – where several cremated remains have been found – was a cemetery and memorial. Both are connected to the Avon River by paths they called avenues.

Mr. Parker Pearson said remains of stone tools, animal bones, arrowheads and other artifacts were uncovered in the village. Remains of pigs indicated that they were about nine months old when killed, which would mark a midwinter festival, he said.

Mr. Parker Pearson said Stonehenge was oriented to face the midsummer sunrise and midwinter sunset, while the wooden circle at Durrington Walls faced the midwinter sunrise and midsummer sunset.

Source: Associated Press


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Beer
Date: 30 Jan 07 - 09:15 PM

Love to hear this kind of news.
Thanks
Beer (adrien)


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Alba
Date: 30 Jan 07 - 09:23 PM

This is very exciting news.
I look forward to hearing more about this find.
Thanks for posting the info Elmer.
Jude


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Cluin
Date: 30 Jan 07 - 10:47 PM

It was probably centred around several concession stands and a tourist info booth.


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: John Hardly
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 06:45 AM

They are still looking for Scissorshenge and Paperhenge. Obviously, as history and archaeology has borne out, Stonehenge was able to smash Scissorshenge before Paperhenge was able to cover it.


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: curmudgeon
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 06:58 AM

More information and pictures are   here
-- Tom


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 07:22 AM

Now that they have found where the builders live, we might finally get it finished.


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 07:31 AM

There are also ancient rights of way in the area - mostly being buggered up by bypasses and idiots in parliament who decide to f*** up perfectly good common law principles about rights of way....


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 07:38 AM

Not a right of way, but the path to the Avon, the Avenue mentioned in the first post, is about as wide as an 8 lane highway. There was nothing to stop you walking as far as the A30 last time I visited.


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Scrump
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 07:43 AM

It's not mine. Have you tried the Lost & Found column in the Gazette & Herald? :-)

...I'll get me coat.


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 08:10 AM

This is very exciting news! Thanks so much for posting it.

Jeremiah


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 08:28 AM

Odd time of year for this to come out. Most digs are carried out over the summer.


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 10:10 AM

Is anyone else out there going 'well duh'?

Did it never occur to anyone that there had to be a settlement nearby? It's bad enough dragging the building materials all the way from the Preseli mountains (all the way down the Chanterbury ringroad, avoiding earthworks at Avebury), without having to shuttle the workforce in from Salisbury as well.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: greg stephens
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 10:53 AM

An Interpretative Centre, no doubt.


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Bee
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 12:59 PM

Very interesting. Perfect example of worker oppression by the upper clases, making 'em walk three km. to and from work.

Which is actually to say, why so far from the henge, if workers lived there?


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 02:27 PM

If, as is generally speculated, Stonehenge was - or was to be - essentially a cemetary, and/or a place for sacred rituals like staring at the sun, living at or very near the 'henge might have violated sacred beliefs?

John


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: MMario
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 02:34 PM

Who wants to live in a cunstruction zone?


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 02:50 PM

I wonder if they found any pottery. It would be interesting to know what other settlements have the same types.

I cannot bring myself to believe that the Old Ones brought those huge stones all the way from Wales to Stonehenge. There must be some explanation - glacial erratics or something like that.

If you like archeology, especially British archeology, then a great book about it is History from the Air by Richard Muir. I just bought myself a copy, (used) through Amazon. It doesn't cost much, and it is a fascinating book. You can see the outlines of prehistoric settlements, Roman forts, medieval villages, etc, all from the air.

My library used to have a copy, and when they lost it, I decided I had to have my own.


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: MMario
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 02:54 PM

I thought they had actrually matched the stones to quarries in wales based on dressing marks? Or so I seem to recall.


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 03:01 PM

We (in the US) presumedly can't buy the original to bring it here, but admiration demands that we replicate:


Carhenge

Carhenge 2

Stonefridge

Foamhenge non-biodegradeable FOAM

Roadside America's collection of similar reflections of US admiration of great monuments of the world.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Rapparee
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 03:05 PM

They've also found some of the stones underwater at a place where the builders would have had to cross water with them.

But what I really, really want to know: Was it a Real Ale pub? Or one of the other kind?


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 04:46 PM

Real Ale or Mead.. they don't call them the Beaker People for nothing!!

LTS (stealing unashamedly from Flanders and Swann).


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Bee
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 05:44 PM

I love Flanders and Swann, and no one I know has heard of them: "if the Great(?) hadn't intended us to eat people, he wouldn't have made them of meat!"

And I do mean to learn to play "Have Some Madiera, M'Dear!"

I saw a speculative documentary on the idea of bringing the quarried stones by boat. Ancient boats are an interesting subject, since people have been 'messing about in boats' pretty much since they learned how to chip wood with stone tools. Not many truly ancient boats survive, but I recall they found a very old example in a peat bog a couple years ago.


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Naemanson
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 06:06 PM

The latest find was a building obviously built by the Scots. It had large arches and part of a name all written in gold letters. The name is MacDon...

Should I get MY coat?


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 06:16 PM

If the Juju had meant us not to eat people, he wouldn't have made us of meat!

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Metchosin
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 06:36 PM

I find this fascinating because it gets me speculating that some of my direct ancestors were probably partying there. Given the DNA history of Cheddar man, it seems reasonable to me, as some of my relatives lived close by and the origin of their surname and proximity to Woad Hill would seem to indicate that they were at least up to their armpits in blue dye.

Perhaps their job at Stonehenge was to regularly paint the stones blue too, given that the bluestones at Stonehenge never have really been blue. LOL


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 07:11 PM

The local TV media has been obsessed with calling this an "underground village"!!!

Since it's only a metre and a half below ground, that surly means that the people were tiny?

Isn't that nice Mr Dawkins the guy who wrote "Stonehenge Decoded"???

:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Bee
Date: 31 Jan 07 - 07:42 PM

Thank you, LTS. Another great batch of tunes as inaccessible on vinyl as if in the deepest peat bog! At least, until after the cat's been $neutered$.


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Greg B
Date: 01 Feb 07 - 01:07 AM

Probably 8 pubs, 2 hotels, and 4 knocking shops.


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Beer
Date: 01 Feb 07 - 07:39 AM

Have to ask. What is a knocking shop? Never heard the term before. Is it like a whore house?
Beer (adrien)


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Scrump
Date: 01 Feb 07 - 08:12 AM

Beer, to answer your question - yes.


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: SqueezeMe
Date: 01 Feb 07 - 08:34 AM

Just a small and pedantic point.

When I lived in that area many years ago, the Avon River mentioned in the original post was always referred to as the River Avon.

This is not the first time in recent years that I have seen it written as the Avon River.

Can any one explain this change? Has the Geographical Names Board (or similar august body) been buggering around with our heritage again?

Information welcome. Thanks.


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Rusty Dobro
Date: 01 Feb 07 - 08:40 AM

It changed to the Avon River about the time railway stations became train stations.


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Scrump
Date: 01 Feb 07 - 08:56 AM

'Avon' means the same as 'River', so 'River Avon' means 'River River' or 'Avon Avon' or 'Avon River'. So I guess it doesn't really matter which you use :-)

But yes, it's normal to refer to the 'River Avon' (or just 'The Avon'). Or 'The River'...

I'll get me coat.


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Scrump
Date: 01 Feb 07 - 09:02 AM

Stonehenge was merely the scaffolding for a much greater structure that was never built, due to Wilts County Council not granting the developers planning permission.


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Cluin
Date: 01 Feb 07 - 12:21 PM

It's part of the scaffolding for the Tower of Babel. Tower's gone, but some of the workman's crap is still lying around.


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Charley Noble
Date: 01 Feb 07 - 01:45 PM

I'm eagerly awaiting the moment when the researchers translate some of the writing and are wondering what 'GETAWAY" could possibly mean!

Naemanson-

You have no couth!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: MMario
Date: 01 Feb 07 - 01:51 PM

they have translated one fragmentary tablet. It says:"If one is to orient on the rising sun at the equinox but believe the equinox to occur on the longest day of the year then should not the current chief of the henge construction team ..."


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Bill D
Date: 01 Feb 07 - 02:43 PM

LOLOLOL....Mario!! *tsk*


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Cluin
Date: 01 Feb 07 - 02:49 PM

That explains the state of the henge then.... `tis a shambles.


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Cluin
Date: 05 Feb 07 - 11:20 PM

Latest unearthing on the site... Neolithic Tupperware.


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: JennyO
Date: 06 Feb 07 - 06:24 AM

Ah - but does it have a lifetime guarantee against cracking, chipping or peeling?


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: GUEST,Mingulay at work
Date: 06 Feb 07 - 08:31 AM

Wondering how you can chip or peel anything with Tupperware. Do you have to work the edge as you would a flint tool, and once having peeled it what do you then keep it in if all you have is pieces of broken Tupperware? There could be a marketing opportunity for basket weavers here if only they could make them dishwasher proof and freezer and microwave safe.

I also wonder if, in the future, we shall be known as Plasteolithic man.


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 06 Feb 07 - 03:17 PM

Plasteolithic man..good one, Mingulay.

My husband's firm sometimes has to drill exploratory holes in landfills for environmental purposes. He tells me that they find foot after foot after foot of....newspaper.

I think our era will be known as the Age of Paper. However, that is not to say that we could not also be Plasteolithic men.


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: MMario
Date: 06 Feb 07 - 03:19 PM

wouldn't it more likely be the "paleoplastic"?


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Subject: RE: BS: ancient village found near Stonehenge
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 06 Feb 07 - 04:55 PM

apparently they have found large traces of food remains which undoubtedly points towards the first ancient Tesco' Metro.


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