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Subject: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 06 Oct 06 - 03:54 PM

For those of you who understand, please send up whatever your flavour of good thoughts, etc. for my grandson's puppy, Numa Jean. She is a brindle boxer about 5-6 months old and climbed a 6 foot fence sometime between 730a-noon, today. It is raining very heavily, here, and is very chilly. Numa's litter mate and sister, Blondie, did not follow her, thank goodness. Nevertheless, Numa was the first puppy they got and is very special. They both put my grandson to bed, sleep with him, and wake him up in the morning. They are both adorable pups and really learning their manners.:-)

My son is walking the neighbourhood, now. I've called all relevant agencies, printed up flyers with pictures, etc. Now, we need your help in seeing her returned to us, right away, please. Numa Jean come home!

Thanks so much,

katforlornbuthopeful


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: LilyFestre
Date: 06 Oct 06 - 04:34 PM

Hi Kat,

    Do you have a public television station? Many of them have a channel for community events that will also list photos/descriptions of lost animals and where you can be contacted, for free. The local radio here also runs a Lost and Found (daily) that lists animals and contact info...just a thought.
   I hope you find your puppy.

Michelle


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Sorcha
Date: 06 Oct 06 - 04:42 PM

I micro chipped both of ours today. Good luck sister. Hope she is found.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 06 Oct 06 - 04:58 PM

Thanks, both of you. I did get hold of one radio station, the others' phones are constantly busy, so I am doing a lot of redial. I'll check with the community tv channel, thanks. The radio woman said she'd say she needed meds as that usually gets immediate results, esp. when they are young and cute. I've also called the vet, the animal control folks, and the humane society. My daughter is also walking the neighbourhood with Blondie. I don't want to give voice to my fears, so am trying to focus on her calling and saying she's been found before my grandson wakes from his nap.

Thanks so much,

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Oct 06 - 06:22 PM

I put in the Invisible Fence system to keep my dogs in the yard. It works beautifully, but it is expensive and it takes a couple of weeks of training. Still, well worth the price, all things considered.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Bert
Date: 06 Oct 06 - 06:34 PM

Keeping all our fingers crossed for ya, katmeluv.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: open mike
Date: 06 Oct 06 - 07:00 PM

bow wow wow
come home
little Numa Jean!


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Scoville
Date: 06 Oct 06 - 08:19 PM

Please please please keep collars and tags on them at all times! I'm amazed at how many people only put collars on for walks, or leave loose chain collars on that will easily slide over the dog's head. Dogs need visible ID!



Something you might consider in the future:

Mine has both a microchip and always wears a collar and tags. She hasn't gotten out of our yard in years until this past week, when we lost a board in the corner of the fence. One of her tags has her AVID number (the ID number programmed into her chip) and the AVID phone number on it so even if whoever finds her doesn't have a chip reader, they can call AVID, who will call us (so we don't have to have our own phone number out in public).

Mom got a call from AVID at 8:00 Tuesday morning saying that someone down the block had found our dog. It turns out it was an elderly woman who couldn't have taken the dog to a vet herself but could call AVID anyway because of the tag.



The other advantage to a microchip is that if someone finds your dog and wants to keep it, they won't know she has a chip unless they get her scanned. We had two clients fighting over a dog once (a boxer, as a matter of fact) so we whipped out the microchip scanner an, lo and behold, the chip was still registered to the original owner. The second "owner" had found the dog and taken the collar off.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: catspaw49
Date: 06 Oct 06 - 08:36 PM

I feel for ya' katmyluv..........All of my good thoughts for a safe return are heading your way.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 06 Oct 06 - 08:57 PM

I agree on the microchips, folks, thanks, so does my daughter. Yes, she always has a collar on with her license, rabies tag and a tag with owner name, addy and phone number on it. She was sighted by a couple of people near some shops, but nobody tried to get her; ditto for a grumpy old neighbour. I've placed ads, radio notices, gone to animal control and printed up flyers. Tomorrow, we will hand those out and canvas the neighbourhood, again. My daughter got completely soaked walking for about three hours with Numa's sister, around the area. We''re hoping some kid may have picked her up and we'll hear from them when mom or dad gets home from work. There are a lot of people who have seen them in the front yard when my dau. is out with them and openly admired them, so a lot of folks know where she lives. Here's hoping. Thanks, so much, my dear friends.

luvyakat


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Ebbie
Date: 06 Oct 06 - 09:59 PM

The best of luck to you and yours, kat. I once had a cute pup that got stolen right out of my yard. It was weeks before we discovered him romping in a fenced back yard with some kids about a half mile away. Upon discreet questioning of the kids I decided that the affection between them was mutual and that the pup had a good home. I never did find out who actually picked him up. A man in a pickup had been sighted in our rental compound- and then the pooch was gone.

May you have better luck. I hope you get a call tonight. A disconsolate child is a heartbreaker.

Eb


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: wysiwyg
Date: 06 Oct 06 - 10:19 PM

Kat,

I'm giving thanks that the dog has found a warm, dry shelter for the night and hopefully, a loving little boy to console him till he can get home. And I hope that's what his own little boy is being helped to give thanks for, as well.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: SINSULL
Date: 06 Oct 06 - 10:53 PM

Sorry, kat. this is a tough one.
A few months back, Jacqui and I were stopped for construction when a silly "escaped" boxer darted in and out of oncoming traffic and climbed on cars begging to be let in until I opened my door and called him. Jacqui was really upset - something about lobsters in the back seat. But his frantic owner appeared just as the light changed and he was returned safe and sound. He had dug UNDER the fence.
Someone will take pity on your little one. I will keep that thought in mind.
SINS


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Oct 06 - 12:17 AM

Thanks, again. We are going to bed, hoping it is as Susan says, dry and safe.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Blowzabella
Date: 07 Oct 06 - 08:44 AM

oh kat - I can well imagine how you feel. Much as I adore all dogs, boxers have a special place in my heart - I grew up with them (in fact, when I was born, our boxer licked me within ten minutes!!!).

I really hope you get her back - mind you, if she wanders into my garden, you might have to fight me for her!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 07 Oct 06 - 08:50 AM

Take Blondie for a walk and keep calling Numa Jean, hopefully she will show up. Boxers are all "daft as a brush" but usually someone takes pity on them and brings them home. Good Luck.

Yours, Aye. Dave


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: wysiwyg
Date: 07 Oct 06 - 12:37 PM

... and sometimes a doggie is meant to live with someone else, and goes off to find them and live happily ever after... we have to appreciate them while they are with us, for they are creatures with minds of their own and natures that love to explore. We can't really quite ever own them.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: GUEST,Bee
Date: 07 Oct 06 - 12:52 PM

Lost puppy has been in my thoughts - any news?

I still grieve for our old girl who died last November. It's my opinion dogs are born to break at least one heart apiece.

And, barn doors shut too late and all, but I hate seeing dogs outdoors on their own - they are strong and clever and curious, and tend to get out of the most safe-looking enclosures.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: jacqui.c
Date: 07 Oct 06 - 03:38 PM

Hi Kat - I'm putting the good thoughts up. Any news yet?


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Oct 06 - 04:37 PM

I don't like them being outside alone, either, though this yard is very private and safe from anyone stealing them. This neighbourhood is full of dog lovers. No luck, yet. We put up 40 flyers this morning. I have printed up another 25 which we will put up later, today.

Someone did see her running with a husky last night. They caught the husky but she wouldn't let them catch her, which is good in a way...it might mean any arseholes who want to steal her won't be able to. The place where she was seen is close and safer than the big road by the shops.

It turns out the old man, across from the backyard, saw them both get out. Got Blondie back in. Numa wouldn't go, so he fixed the fence to keep Blondie in, effectively shutting Numa off from getting back in. I know he was doing his best, but...jeez. Numa hates rain, so she probably holed up somewhere for the night. No sign of her and we are almost hoarse from calling.

Dave, my dau. did walk all over two neighbourhoods last night with Blondie, thanks. She will do that again this afternoon when she puts up the additional flyers.

There are a lot of really nice people out there watching for her. They were all so nice. Makes me have hope.

Thanks so much, folks. I'll keep you posted. watch this space for good news!

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 07 Oct 06 - 05:59 PM

If she gets Blondies scent she will find her way home. I hope she does Kat... Waiting fer news.

Yours, Aye. Dave


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Hawker
Date: 07 Oct 06 - 06:34 PM

warm thoughts for luck and a safe return
Much love to you and your grandson - and the dofs too,
Cheers, Lucy


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Hawker
Date: 07 Oct 06 - 06:35 PM

that should read dogs! not dofs!!!
Cheers, Lucy


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Ebbie
Date: 07 Oct 06 - 07:08 PM

I like 'dof', Lucy. Sounds loving. :)

If your pup has been seen, kat, it should be just a matter of a little time before all of you have a happy ending. Bless you all.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: GUEST,Kt
Date: 07 Oct 06 - 07:13 PM

Here, Numa......whistle, whistle, whistle. whistle, whistle, .....Here, Numa.......Hope she'll be home safe and sound very soon, kat.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: GUEST,Bee
Date: 07 Oct 06 - 07:15 PM

She may also just be enjoying a wild run, and will come home when she's good and hungry. I once looked after a friend's male dog who loved a good overnight run, and was a mighty escape artist. He could disappear behind a single blueberry bush, despite being a sixty pound Shepherd. I recall one evening searching along the road, calling and calling, and I could see the great lout hiding in the edge of the woods, watching me. He once jumped through a shut glass small window on the second floor of a shed he'd been locked into (having previously chewed through the door of his kennel). He landed, a good ten foot drop, on his feet, took off, and was home none the worse for wear next morning.

Which is to say, take heart and keep looking. She'll be found.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Sorcha
Date: 07 Oct 06 - 07:28 PM

Numan, to me Numa! You've had your run and that'll do! Home Numa!


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Big Mick
Date: 07 Oct 06 - 07:29 PM

Numa, honey ..... think ...... Morgan ........ fun run is over, time to go home. The wee gent needs you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Janie
Date: 07 Oct 06 - 08:12 PM

HYEEEEEEEEER Girl! HYEEEEEEEEEEER Numa! Attagirl-come on.

HYEEEEEEEEEEEEEER Numa! Numa, Come! Come on girl! Come on in now.

Come on. HYEEEEEEEEEEEER Girl. Come on.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: wysiwyg
Date: 08 Oct 06 - 09:25 AM

I dunno how it is where Numa Jean lives.

Where we live, we would:

Call the county animal warden (gummint job)
Call the ASPCA (nonprofit job)
Call the local veterinarians

And take the above places a L&F flyer with picture, to post on their Lost & Found board.

Also:
Put L&F announcement in the local paper and the local ad paper
Put up L&F flyers in the stores
Put up a L&F poster at the local feed/pet supply stores

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: GUEST,Partridge
Date: 08 Oct 06 - 09:34 AM

I hope Numa is home now, if not then I hope she's home very soon.
Thinking about you.
love
Pat x


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 Oct 06 - 11:04 AM

Thanks, again, folks. It is a source of much comfort to know you all are sending good thoughts, too.

Susan, thanks, we've done all of that and a bit more. The ads come out tomorrow as we missed the deadline for the weekend. Best case scenario, she comes walking home on her own; next, she lost her collar and someone is waiting to see an ad/poster for her.

Thanks, again, it is sunny here, today so that should help. Morgan keeps telling his mom, "I want my Numa!"

luvyakat


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 08 Oct 06 - 02:07 PM

Dogs can travel quite a distance in a fairly short time. Makes it hard to find them if you have a traveler. The neighbor meant well--you have at least one of the dogs. I'm sorry he wasn't able to catch both of them. Before I put in the invisible fence my neighbors put my dog in their back yard a couple of times (or she went in there herself--but she couldn't get back out again).

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Blowzabella
Date: 08 Oct 06 - 05:52 PM

Fingers still crossed, kat

blowz


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 Oct 06 - 09:38 AM

Keeping grateful best thoughts as I head off for the water world.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Oct 06 - 10:28 AM

Darn papers! I have receipts from placing the ads online, which say the ads would be published TODAY. Now, I find they will not be in until tomorrow as there was a "glitch" in their online placement system.

Painted a long, wide piece of subflooring, a scrap, with a lost puppy notice and attached it to our fence. I hope someone comes by, maybe having been gone all weekend, and finds her and calls.

Thansk for your continued support.

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 09 Oct 06 - 07:17 PM

Oh Kat, that's awful. Positive thoughts on their way immediately.

Keep updating.

Rhiannon


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 10:07 AM

Patient gratitude that she is home today or happy in whatever circumstance she has landed herself.

I do know that wherever she is, she's fine. I know she is missed, but isn't this a wonderful ole world? It might be helpful to draw some pictures of Numa Jean in various good situations-- even the good side of the worst situations her little boy might be imagining.

There is ALWAYS a good side, and kids are usually better at finding these than we old fools are! :~)

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: SINSULL
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 11:24 AM

Dammit dawg! Get your ass home NOW!


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: LilyFestre
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 11:25 AM

YEAH! What SINSULL said!!!!!!!! WOOF!!!

Michelle


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Big Mick
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 11:32 AM

I hope that you are checking regularly at the shelters used by animal control. Sometimes they bring animals in, and due to lack of room, take action very quickly. Please keep checking on a very regular basis.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 11:52 AM

Thanks, folks. I wish I had something to report. One newspaper ad came out, today. No calls so far. The other paper had to add another day for processing the photo. Jeez! Morgan and I drove the neighborhood late in the afternoon, yesterday, and handed out a few more flyers to road workers and house builders as well as a local feedstore and Taco Bell.

Thanks, Mick. Rue is checking both of them every other day. She's on her way to both shelters this morning.

Susan, thanks. I'd like to believe she is safe and taken care of.

I will add my "woof-woof, get your arse home," too!

I've also added to tomorrow's ad: "Three year old child misses very much. NO QUESTIONS ASKED. PLEASE RETURN." You can see an outdated photo and the original ad by PMing me.
Thanks, again.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: jeffp
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 12:02 PM

Thinking good thoughts here, kat.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: pixieofdoom
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 12:09 PM

Really hope you find her kat........thinking of you

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 03:20 PM

Was hoping to hear she was home today, kinda had the feeling she would be for some reason... Keep yer chin up lass.

Yours,Aye. Dave


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Sorcha
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 03:25 PM

I keep opening this.......


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 04:54 PM

Don't forget that her littermate can reach her better than anyone-- is she going along on all of the walks to woof, sniff, and attract? Even from a car, she can be a big help, but by laying down a familiar scent trail she can leave clear instructions!

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 04:59 PM

Yes, she is, on every walk and ride. Thanks so much, everyone.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 05:16 PM

Hi Kat.

I hope you get good news soon. Thinking of you from across the ocean.

EWIS


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Bert
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 08:19 PM

I keep checking here hoping you've found the pup.

Luvya.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: JennieG
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 08:30 PM

Still no news? Sending positive thoughts from Oz....wandering puppy go home, your folks miss you.......I'll sool our cat onto you if you don't go home......!

Cheers
JennieG


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Janie
Date: 10 Oct 06 - 09:20 PM

Like Sorch....

Hey there prettypup, git yerself on home!

J


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: GUEST,Bee
Date: 11 Oct 06 - 08:21 PM

Still hoping to see good news when I open this... git home, Dawg!


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: GUEST,Partidge
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 02:18 AM

Like the other posters, I'm hoping for good news.
Pat x


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 09:47 AM

Thanks, again, folks. Nothing to report. Not one phone call from two paper ads, radio announcements, veterinarians, humane soc., animal control, nor flyers. It *feels* as though she is okay and someone has maybe decided they want to keep her. I am hoping they will be *shamed* into calling us or just put her in the front yard.

More as soon as I know anything.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 09:57 AM

Thanks for the update, Kat.

It is early to be hearing back from folks, just yet.

Keeping up the walks with her partner, in wider areas and at different times of day, should narrow down the area where she may turn up playing in someone else's yard.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Canberra Chris
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 11:05 AM

I lost my cat down the drains when I left her with someone she knew. She was elderly, cold, hungry, thirsty, alone, frightened, lost and in darkness. I had been walking all the streets around calling her. One time as I pulled up on arriving to search again she recognised the sound of my car, and I heard the faintest cry when I cut the engine. It took me three days to lure her out.

Don't give up hope.

Chris


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 11:35 AM

False hope is foolish.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: pixieofdoom
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 12:02 PM

Still thinking of you and the pup and hoping for some good news soon

Fiona xxxxxxxxxxx


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 12:42 PM

Just got our first phone call with a definite siting!! I am headed over there, now. She was seen two days ago running with a big brown dog with a black tongue, must be part chow. She loves other dogs so that seems accurate. The woman saw her picture in the paper and said it is definitely her!!

Thanks, so much and please keep it up. You are the BEST!

BTW, the woman who called got her miniature pinscher back after SIX months!! No false hopes there.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Wesley S
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 12:54 PM

Good luck. I hope it pans out.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 01:24 PM

Guest: That was NOT helpful and I see you're too ashamed of your comment to identify yourself!

Kat: Very best of luck. Keep us informed.

Luv
Rhiannon


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 03:35 PM

Hope she's been spayed, or you'll have quite the Auction set in a few months!

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Blowzabella
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 03:39 PM

Fingers toes and eyes crossed!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Becca72
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 04:04 PM

That's great news, kat!! Hopefully today is the day she comes home.

I once had a cat who went missing for almost 8 months and showed up again one day. There's always hope, even for snarky guests.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Maryrrf
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 05:04 PM

Great news! I hope you find her!


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Sorcha
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 05:20 PM

Come on, kat....let us know.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 05:21 PM

est wishes and prayers sent your way Kat.

Despite us having a scure and locked wrought iron fence, my recently departed Puppers The Alsatian managed to have himself a few big adventures during his 8 years on Earth. One of last times he got out, he figured out that if he ran around the yard 6 times in a figure eight, he could build up enough speed to just sail over the fence by an inch. I had just stepped in the house to go take something out of the oven, came back and saw no dog! He thought he was in the all clear and was trotting up the street to visit his girlfriend Stella the loodhound when he was confronted by our mail carrier who snagged him by the collar and brought him home!

Sometimes, Fences, locks, ID. Tags, Microchips, collars and a chain collar can be gotten around. ANother time he slipped out of the yard when my husband foolishly let him walk down the driveway with him to put back trash cans while neglecting to close the gate behind him. In a flash, Puppers was down the drivway and off on an adventure. I got close enough to grab his collar and in a deft maneuver, he managed to wiggle out of it. The two of us and 12 neighors chased him around for almost 2 hours. he loved every minute of it too, letting us get just close enough to touch him and then running away.

Finally, an elder we know from the local Kingdom Hall very near us happened to be driving by. He stopped, got out and commanded the dog to sit down. Puppers obeyed as if Georgio was Moses coming down from the mount with the ten commandments! Georgio, the elder, came over, picked up the dog, put him in the backseat of his car and drove him home. Georgio's congregation still laughs about that to this day and teases him. My dog was funny that way. He obeyed Jehovah's Witnesses and Firemen - 2 things we have plenty of in our neighorhood. LOL.

Well, You've clearly done everything good pet parents are supposed to do. I'm sure you've already thought of offering a reward too. All my pets have 'Reward for safe return' stamped on their secondary tags.

It's good that she's been sighted with other dogs. They are no dout helping her out by showing her where the good garbage is! That should help you catch her. I too hope she's been spayed.

Pleasem keep us posted on Numa sightings. We worry aout her.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 10:23 PM

Thanks, Dave's Wife and everyone else. Great story. We had a half German Shepherd, half Dobie who was like that. Out and off in a thrice laughing as we scurried along to catch him.

She was just to the vet a few weeks ago and he told us she was too young to spay just yet, so maybe she isn't quite six months. At any rate, she was the runt and is smaller than her sister. Her sister is not in heat, so I think we are safe that way.

Rue took off the whole afternoon and walked all over in the area she was seen and then some, with Blondie in tow. She put up about another thirty flyers and spoke to everyone she saw. My brother lives right on the canal bank in the same area and will keep a sharp eye out for her, too, now that we know where she is hanging. There are plenty of places which she can get shelter and also probably food. Plus she loves grasshoppers and other bugs to eat. Did I say the area is near my grandson's daycare? We're wondering if she is confused at smelling the car scent from when we drive over there twice a day. Not sure about that, though.

I think I said, Fri. the 13th is always lucky for me, so here's to finding her, tomorrow!

Thanks so much,

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: wysiwyg
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 10:46 PM

Thanks for the report! (Now I can sleep.)

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 11:05 PM

As the owner of an escape artist myself I can sympathize with all of the efforts to keep them in. It is a big help if you take them for a good long walk every day--that is their work, they look forward to it, and you wear them out enough that they're less descrutive and less likely to try to escape.

Good luck with the pooch coming home.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: GUEST,Bee
Date: 12 Oct 06 - 11:50 PM

...with fingers crossed. (That's a lotta fingers on a bee, y'know). I think you're going to find her tomorrow.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: jacqui.c
Date: 13 Oct 06 - 08:55 AM

Fingers still crossed (makes typing difficult though!)

I hope that today really is the day.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Oct 06 - 09:32 AM

Our escape artist is a big dog, so after trying all else, we went to the ag store for a hotwire.

"Do you want cow-strength or pet-strength?"

"We want him to get religion, but we don't want to send him to Heaven!"

So they gave us the dogwire to try, and it has worked just fine. One light zap was enough to convice him that fences were not for climbing.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 13 Oct 06 - 02:17 PM

Stilly River Sage ahs the right idea. We started taking Puppers to Runyon Canyon park (where he fell in love with Famke Jansson's dog Licorice as you may recall) when he was 6 months old so we could tire him out enough to keep him from coming up with new ways to escape. Sometimes on weekends, my husband would take him twice and hike the hill 2 times each just to get him exhausted enough to settle down at night. Big dogs need exercise or they get crafty and figure out how to escape or they decide to take a more creative route and dig a hole to the earth's core.

We took EVERY precaution a reasonable person would and yet Puppers would still find the chink in our armour. Dogs are good that. MY friend Bill had a mixed breed terrier/spaniel named Cassidy who simply LIVED to find new ways out of the yard. He dug tunnels, he chews planks, he climbed trees - he was such a naughty boy. oddly enough, when we had a very large earthquake and his two dog pals Sundance and Buster made a reak for it, Cassidy stayed home! Bill was in oregon and called us in a panic saying he had heard from a neighor that the other two had gotten out. Sundance was a Shephers/St.bernard mix and I think buster was a boxer. We had to go over to their house in the hills and search for them. I found Sundance but Buster stayed lost for days.

Keeping my fingers crossed and you in my prayers Kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: SINSULL
Date: 13 Oct 06 - 03:39 PM

kat,
When you finally get the little darling home, dry, fed and bedded, please announce it with a new thread. I think the 'Cat can stand the duplicate threads.
SINS


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 13 Oct 06 - 05:19 PM

Keep that scent trail fresh and i'm sure she will find you Kat :)

Yours,Aye. Dave


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Oct 06 - 06:34 PM

Sure hope the dog warden doesn't hear about that electric fence you have rigged up there WYSIWYG as they aren't legal for dog containment due to the tangle factor.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 13 Oct 06 - 06:46 PM

GUest - it depends on jurisdiction. In cities, and towns it is often illegal ut in rural areas - it's permitted with warning signs

This page has some very good info about Escape Artist dogs in general and Hotwires..

Escape Artist dogs - solutions

Here's the relavnt statement about Hotwires from aove link:

>>As to the legality of using hot wire, in rural areas it is completly accepted so long as it has warning signs on it. In urban areas, generally you are forbidden to use electric fence by itself or on the outside (public side) of your other fence; but there is no limit on using it on the inside (ie private side) within your own property. If persons other than your family are allowed inside your yard, eg service people, you probably should put up warning signs and/or instruct them about the fence, or simply turn it off when such persons are present.<<


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 13 Oct 06 - 06:57 PM

In looking up the legality of hotwires in other than rural places I came across what looks to me to e an ingenius solution for smaller fence climers - it's called a Coyote roller. It's kinda like putting tubes on cable or phone wires to keep the squirrels off! Check it out:


Coyote Roller for fences


Since we have a coyote in our neighborhood right now eating random outdoor cats, this looks like something I need to show to the Neighborhood Watch captain over on the affected street. it keeps wild animals out of your yard but also looks like it would keep climbing fido IN.

From their FAQ:

>># Will the Coyote Roller system keep dogs or cats from jumping over the fence? Absolutely. In fact, the Coyote Roller works with nearly any animal that gains entry into a piece of property by scaling a fence. It can keep your pet dogs and cats in, and wild dogs and cats out.<<

When we get our new dog in a few months, I believe I will look into this further for my own property.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Oct 06 - 07:50 PM

Here's something I WISH we'd known about and had on Numa Jean. (Of course I am all for better fences, coyote bars, etc.):


GPS sends pets wireless
Sep 1, 2005
Veterinary Economics

Pet owners can now purchase the first patented GPS tracking system for pets, a 5-ounce device that snaps to a pet's collar. It's equipped with GPS and two-way wireless to track a pet and let the owner review his or her pet's location on a wireless device, like a cell phone or BlackBerry.

A pet owner dials found on a wireless device to receive information on the pet's location, which may be in the form of a map or address. The tracking system also allows a pet owner to monitor the environmental temperature of his or her pet. The owner is instantly alerted if the pet becomes dangerously hot or cold.

Finally, a pet owner can use a Web site to create virtual fences. The service alerts the owner when the pet isn't within the preset perimeter.

The devices are waterproof and require rechargeable batteries. Pet owners must purchase the system, and then pay both activation and subscription fees.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Blowzabella
Date: 13 Oct 06 - 07:57 PM

I've only just found out (vaguely) what an Ipod is - have no IDEA what a Blackberry is - other than something you pick off hedges and make pies out of!

Still got fingers crossed for ye kat. My boy is curled up in bed - I'll have to go and 'fight' him for space to lay my head in a minute. He was a rescue dog - a border collie - too nervy and soft for a world where he'd have to work for his living. He goes to work with my husband, who works at an agricultural college and spends the day with the trainee veterinary nurses. They take his pulse, clean his teeth, generally check him out - as far as the college's risjk assessment goes, my boy is 'low risk' for the students. He just loves the attention!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Oct 06 - 08:15 PM

The dog warden is fully aware of our pet handling procedures, as is the head of the local SPCA.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Blowzabella
Date: 13 Oct 06 - 08:21 PM

Perhaps I should clarify - the above refers to the way my DOG spends his days - NOT my husband (who works very hard, he tells me!)


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Big Mick
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 10:17 AM

Update?


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: wysiwyg
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 10:23 AM

UPDATE:

The husband is STILL not spending his days that way.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Big Mick
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 10:25 AM

Update?


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 10:32 AM

That coyote roller is good for dogs that go over the top, but what my pit bull was doing was testing the top edge of the wire cloth part and finding where there weren't enough wire loops to hold it onto the top bar. She was pushing against the cloth for a flexible place where it would sag a little and scooting over it but under the top bar. I went around the yard adding more clips to the top bar and cloth and still she got out. Other times she went under the fence, and on one occasion she scooted between a chunk of wrought iron fencing that I had wired against the cyclone fencing to block a hole. She wiggled through and did a sharp left turn at the hole and she was OUT. The Invisible Fence with its training and correction collars is perfect for this dog--she doesn't approach the fence.

Electric fences are not allowed in my town in any way, shape or form. Borders or inside the yard.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 06:00 PM

One call on Sunday, an old lady trying to help, but the boxer she saw was huge and way far away. Other than that, nothing, no word, no sightings, nothing...:-< Thanks for asking, Mick, and everyone else. My hope is still that she is running with other dogs and just hasn't been caught, yet. We continue to go to Animal Control and the HUmane Society to check and the ads are still running.Morgan still tells everyone about how "Numa got lost."


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Bee
Date: 16 Oct 06 - 10:09 PM

Don't give up hope. I've never lost a dog, but I've had cats go AWOL for weeks. One was a very weak and sick young thing someone stupidly let out while I was at work. He was just back from a week at the vet on IV, very thin. I had also just moved to a new house. The old house was about 3 km. away in a maze of busy streets. I called the new people at the old place, just in case he made it there, but three weeks later I was mourning. And they called me. They had a skinny little cat trapped in the porch. Off I went, and collected a scraggy bag of bones who spent the next month on my lap getting fed nutrient pastes. He lived to be 17.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 17 Oct 06 - 05:12 AM

Still sending positive thoughts. Maybe someone like Micca and Kats can do a 'working'.

Rhiannon


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 20 Oct 06 - 08:39 PM

Still holding out for Numa to find her way home!

I was going around my gardens today noting areas I will have to puppy-proof if I want a new doggie (my old one passed way 9/12/06 rembemer the doggie sunshine song?) As much as I think I am good at predicting the ways a future dog might get out, I know there will always be other ways they will think of. I don't think I can get the GPS thing in my area ut I'll look into. Kinda like Lo-Jack for dogs! We will chip our dog of course and have them tattooed with an ID #. Rendundacy is key. Tags can be removed and chips being internal.. well...

I am so hoping Numa is still with that other dog who seems to know his way around. of course, the longer she is gone, the more likely it is that she will marry him and have puppies with him. ;-) is there room for her Handsome Dan Husky in your household Kat? Who knows, maybe Dan came around and courted her, motivating her to jump the fence? My Puppers, although neutered, would head straight to Stella's house down the street whenever he got out. He got her out twice! Puppy love!


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 22 Oct 06 - 11:45 PM

Thanks, Dave's Wife. So far her sister still has not gone into heat, so...anyway, I rewrote the ad, making it MORE pathetic and used an updated picture which we found, so...the first one came out today, another on Tuesday and the other pub. will come out on Wed. They all get a lot of circulation and we have already had one call of a sighting on Oct. 8th. Kind of a long time ago, but at least we know folks are watching out and responding. Hope we get more calls with more recent info. mY dau. is getting disheartened going to the humane society etc. with no luck. I think the updated picture will help a lot.

My grandson's third b-day is coming up so the ad is written from Numa's perspective asking folks to help her get back to him in time for his b-day.

Thanks, again, folks. When we find her I will start a celebration thread!


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Oct 06 - 12:15 AM

When I concentrate on the puppy I see the number 121. I want to separate it as 12 1 but I don't know what it means. There is a second-storey in the picture and a woman (older) with the puppy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Bee
Date: 23 Oct 06 - 08:54 AM

I do hope you find her. I have an enormous soft spot for dogs and cats. It's a good sign she was seen with another dog - they can go off on long wild outings when they are so young. We were fortunate with our old dog, she took off only once, followed some smelt fishermens' children down onto the ice when she was about five months old. My husband gave her such a lecture, complete with expletives, she never left the yard without us again.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 23 Oct 06 - 02:40 PM

Here's a Fort Worth, TX, news story that might be of interest to those following this thread:

Dog's finder could have avoided a court battle

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 24 Oct 06 - 07:59 PM

Could use some extra good thoughts, asap. A very nice woman called my dau. saying she is sure, by the new picture, that she has had Numa Jean for the past week, after having picked her up in our area. She felt she was too nice of a dog to take to the pound. She is also moving in a couple of weeks. She and my dau. made arrangements to meet at a local store parking lot. Her number did not show up on caller id and my dau. didn't get it, although she knows the woman lives near the golf course and drives a cherry-red Mercedes or BMW. The woman is over an hour late for the meeting and we are sitting on pins and needles. She was very sure it was Numa!


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Oct 06 - 08:02 PM

Hope she turns up but what a ruse to get your house burgled while you are sitting waiting in a parking lot.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 24 Oct 06 - 08:06 PM

Only if one is stupid enough to give out one's addy. Hence the meet in the local parking lot. Thanks, anyway.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Blowzabella
Date: 24 Oct 06 - 08:19 PM

Fingers crossed kat - can fully understand what you're going through


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Oct 06 - 08:40 PM

Kat she wouldn't need to give out her addy. Anyone in the neighbourhood who knows her and knows she has lost a pup and is advertising widely for it's return could have made that call.

But that is a real remote scenario and I am sure your daughter wouldn't have been 'stupid' enough to go and meet a stranger in a parking lot and leave her home empty.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Oct 06 - 12:58 AM

You're right, guest, she didn't.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 25 Oct 06 - 05:02 AM

C'on Kat - you must know by now.

Rhiannon


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 25 Oct 06 - 06:27 AM

everything crossed... I hope someone wouldn't be soooo cruel to be making a false claim...

sigh... still crossing everything though.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Oct 06 - 10:20 AM

Nothing so far, but my dau. does think she remembers the woman's husband's name and knows that he has a "practice" here in town, so may have found a number for him, IF it's the right guy. She said it didn't feel right to call last night. The whole thing has made her uneasy plus she and my grandson have bronchitis, so not feeling up to par. I have offered to call, so will remind her of that this a.m. and go from there IF the woman doesn't call back.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: SINSULL
Date: 25 Oct 06 - 10:30 AM

How cruel.
Anymore calls, get an address where you can pick up the puppy. Any more pranks, notify the police.
Maybe ask a question like "Is the incision on her stomach infected?" If the person answers "Yes", you know you have a fraud. If she says "There is no incision.", explain your reasons for asking.

I am so sorry, kat. This is cruel.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Oct 06 - 11:11 AM

Thanks, Sins. My dau. is a bit mad at herself for not remembering to get a name, addy, etc. We DO know the woman lives on the golf course in a high-priced area and that ruby red car has got to stand out. I am trying to believe there was just some miscommunication about where to meet and that she will call again. Barring that, my dau. has just had me add to the ads in the papers. She laid it on a bit thick, BUT I don't blame her. Here's the text added on: "To the lady who called from the Ridges in the Redlands, near the golf course and positively identified my son's boxer puppy, please call back. I waited two hours & my son cried all night because we never connected." (He didn't cry quite all night.)

Trying to follow my own advice: "give thanks for this or something better for the highest good of all concerned and let it go.":-(

Thanks, folks,

kat


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: GUEST,Elfcall
Date: 25 Oct 06 - 11:29 AM

I have followed this sad story from the start - I grew up with boxers, as a baby I toddled along holding onto one for support! So I sort of went where he went- and was often found asleep in his basket.

I am lucky that I see a friendly pup who lives close by (well more of an adolescent really but that could describe most boxers!!)

I sincerely hope that your family are reunited with their lost friend very soon.

Elf


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Oct 06 - 03:50 PM

Thank you, Elf, and everyone else. Here's the amended add to the ad:

"To the person who called from the Ridges in the Redlands, near the golf course and positively identified my son's boxer puppy: "The Little Guy" says PLEASE CALL BACK. Sorry we missed you."


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: pixieofdoom
Date: 25 Oct 06 - 04:43 PM

Really hope you hear more good news soon kat.........still thinking of all of you

Fiona x


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Oct 06 - 07:48 PM

Thanks, pixie.:-)

And now, we've had ANOTHER call from a woman who says she is sure she saw her, last night, near the vicinity where others have seen her over the past almost three weeks. I gave her Numa's name and she promised to try to catch her if she sees her, again. I don't know what to think, but this woman sounded pretty sure, too, after seeing the new picture.:-,

I am not sure if I posted pix or not. If you want to see the two puppies click here. Numa Jean is the darker of the two.

Thanks, again.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Blowzabella
Date: 25 Oct 06 - 08:03 PM

Oh. bless - they are both so gorgeous!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: JudyB
Date: 25 Oct 06 - 08:53 PM

Thanks for the picture - it does help with focus. Good thoughts heading your way.

JudyB


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Janie
Date: 26 Oct 06 - 12:05 AM

It is time someone brought that puppy home!

Janie


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Oct 06 - 12:27 PM

kat, the thought occurs to me that to some people 'puppy' may be misleading. Some people might not think of calling a five-month old canine a puppy, but a young dog. A puppy to them would bring to mind a falling over, floppy midge of a thing, and they would not be on the lookout for something older.

Just seeking other avenues...


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 Oct 06 - 02:14 PM

Thanks, Ebbie. That is why I changed the picture in the ads and on the flyer, plus added the words: "I am bigger now than in the photo."

I am glad the photo has helped to focus. I don't know why I didn't think of it sooner! Thanks to you all!

luvyakat


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: JudyB
Date: 26 Oct 06 - 03:43 PM

Has your daughter or her husband tried walking with Blondie (firmly attached by at least two leashes) in the area where there are the most sightings? It might be that Numa Jean would come out of hiding if she heard her sister - or that Blondie could recognize Numa's bark and lead them to her, if someone else is keeping her.

Positive thoughts heading your way.
JudyB


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 Oct 06 - 04:22 PM

Thanks, JudyB. My daughter, a single mom, has walked literally miles and miles over the course of the past three weeks, with Blondie in tow, near all sightings and throughout our neighbourhood and other ones close by. No luck.

I called animal control about the weird no-show. They said it was 1) rare to hear of suhc a thing happening and 2) a matter for the police but not much they could do without a full name and/or address/phone number. My dau. is mad at herself, too, for not thiking clearly enough to get those.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 08:25 AM

Kat - I'm surprised at the reaction of Animal Control because they ARE the police when it comes to animals.

I'm on very friendly terms with the officers who cover my area and I know they would take seriously a complaint from a citizen who has lost a dog and has had a call and promise of return that didn't pan out. It's true that dogs are considered property and that any eventual police complaint would be handled y your local law enforcement but Animal Control officers can get invloved before that complaint is made.

The reason you would cite to get AC motivated to make a visit would be you suspect maltreatment and that the person who claims to be holding Numa made a promise of return which they renegged on. The Ad clearly stated that Numa is on meds so the woman should know that by holding her she is, in effect, mistreating the dog. Of course, you prolly don't want to take it to that extreme. Still, who would it hurt for the Animal cops to ask around her neighborhood and knock on a few doors?

When My dog Puppers came down with epilepsy, a neighor who saw us restraining him during a grand mal seizure didn't understand the situation and called Animal Control to say we were beating our dog. They wasted no time coming around my street, chatting up the neighors and asking if we were monsters who would beat our dog. The other neighors were horrified y the suggestion but told AC when we usually walked him and when he would e out in the yard. They waited until they knew my husand wouldn't be home and came over to demand access to Puppers.

Long story short, we had a wonderful visit with the animal cops who played with Puppers and gave him a good once over with his fave brush so they could look for injuries. I gave them copies of the Seizure Logs I kept to track how often and what type of seizures he had, his medical chart and his Vet's name and numer. In addition, I had to get a notarized letter from his Vet praising us as responsible owners and detailing all the treatment he'd recieved. I'm not angry about having to do that mind you, I'm just saying all they got was a vague complaint and they came down on us like a ton of bricks.

Since then, I've gotten to know them well by sending them follow-up reports on Puppers progress for the file (to avoid future misunderstandings) and to get their help with a series of viscious strays in our neighorhood. We even had a situation where one person tried to keep a dog he found "running loose" (dog escaped yard after breaking thru a window to get at a female in heat) and AC helped the original owner get the dog back.

It could be that where you are, you have insufficient staffing to go out on a call like this. Where we live, we have plenty of staffing but the officers are dispatched from a location about an hours drive away during business hours. We have to be patient when asking for assistance with vicious dogs, often cornering them ourself and barricading them in an alley until the AC arrives.

>sigh<

I'm so heartsick for you Kat. Do you think that lady was expecting to be offered a reward and when none was discussed she decided to low it off? We continue to pray and hope for Nuam's safety and her eventual safe return home to her family.

Please keep me in your thoughts too because we are going to a Rescue saturday to maybe adopt a new doggie. Here's his pic:

whatta handsome Boy!

We believe he is a Red Siberian Husky and German Shepherd mix. I wasn't sure we'd want to adopt so soon ut I saw his picture and realized that a 7 yr old might be perfect for us. He's the same age Puppers was when he died ut if all turns out well, we can enjoy his remaining years with him; the ones we didn't get with Puppers because of his epilepsy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 02:00 PM

My apologies for sounding so short in my last posting, folks. Stress gets to me sometimes.:->

Thanks, Dave's Wife. He is a beaut! I took in an ancient Siamese one time. She lasted for two weeks. Those were two weeks she was off the streets, well-fed and loved. I was grateful she had come to me.

You are right, we do not have enough staffing here, though when they do come out they are excellent. we had to call because our neighbour's dog died in a yard and it seemed like neglect to us. They took the body, did an autopsy and found it was littered with tumors. I still don't think the dog was treated well enough.

As for getting them involved, we jsut don't have enough info. We will have to go cruise that neighbourhood ourselves, I think, before we try to involve them or the cops.

There are, for the first time since she went missing, two ads for female boxers for sale; one is "4 months and brindle" the other is "1 and 1/2 yrs." I guess either one could be her, but i think the 4 month old is more likely, so I have left a message of interest on their phone. Some nice guy called to make sure i had seen the ad for the 1 and 1/2 yr. old.

Today when I was driving with my grandson,near one of the places we looked, he starting calling her, "Numa, Numa, where are you?" Almost broke my heart.

luvyakat


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: GUEST,Ella who is suze
Date: 27 Oct 06 - 03:30 PM

Hi Kat... Still fingers crossed from across the atlantic... take care...

EWIS


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Oct 06 - 10:18 AM

Children need to learn about loss and grieving as much as they need to learn about everything else. I suggest that some of that be addressed now, if it hasn't already. Keep up the search but don't keep this child on pins and needles all the while. Characterize it as you wish--she found a new home, she may have not been so lucky.

"Shit happens." It's one of life's lessons for all of us, not just for adults.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 28 Oct 06 - 01:13 PM

Thanks, SRS, we have done that with our own kids for years. He knows that someone "nice' may have her. And, truth to tell, I know he will be okay. He understands he may never see her again. It helps to have Blondie and Nanny Dizzy around.


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 30 Oct 06 - 02:48 PM

Not a word. I am going to let this thread go, unless there seems to be some cause for hope. At the moment, I give up. Thanks for all of your good thoughts and support.

luvyakat


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Hawker
Date: 30 Oct 06 - 02:55 PM

Stll sending thoughts and prayers out for a safe return, do let us know if pup is found.
Cheers Lucy


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 31 Oct 06 - 06:56 AM

That's so sad, Kat, but I think you are being realistic. Loving thoughts from both of us to help you cope.

Don't stop looking though.

Luv

Rhiannon and Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: pixieofdoom
Date: 31 Oct 06 - 09:04 AM

So sorry that you haven't heard anything,I can only imagine how hard this is for you all

all the best

Fiona xx


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 31 Oct 06 - 05:24 PM

Yeah, OK, I know you were going to let this thread drop but just one last thing ...

We are in Samhain and for 24 hours the veil is very thin between the two worlds. Maybe you could ask relatives/friends on the other side to have a look round.

Blesséd be

Rhiannon


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Subject: RE: BS: Immediate Help needed - lost puppy
From: katlaughing
Date: 31 Oct 06 - 07:56 PM

Rhiannon, that's an excellent idea! I have just the parents to do so, too along with a couple of pets who've crossed over. Thanks!

Thanks too to Lucy and Fiona, as well as the rest of you.


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