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Subject: Lyr Req: Twinkle Little Star
From: jojofolkagogo
Date: 05 Jul 06 - 09:15 AM

Hello everyone :

RE "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star"

Does anyone know the full (three verses, I think)
version of this children's nursery rhyme

I believe its called "STAR" and its by Jane Taylor, written
in 1806 (now in its bi-centennial year !)

Many thanks in advance - I'm sure somebody somewhere will know this one !!!

Best regards
from Jo-Jo


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Twinkle Little Star
From: Emma B
Date: 05 Jul 06 - 09:23 AM

Can't help - but I grew up with this version

Twinkle Twinkle Little Bat"

Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Bat,
How I wonder what you're at:
Up above the world you fly
Like a tea tray in the sky,
Up above the world you fly like at tea tray in the sky.

Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Bat,
How I wonder what you're at:
Up above the world you fly
Like a tea tray in the sky.

Lyrics:        Lewis Carroll
Music:        Dimitri Tiomkin & Nathaniel Finsten


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Twinkle Little Star
From: Paul Burke
Date: 05 Jul 06 - 09:25 AM

Scintillate, scintillate, globule vivific!
In vain do I ponder thy nature specific--
Precariously poised in the ether capacious,
Closely resembling a gem carbonaceous;
Scintillate, scintillate, globule vivific,
In vain do I ponder thy nature specific!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Twinkle Little Star
From: Snuffy
Date: 05 Jul 06 - 09:42 AM

Here's a verse from memory:

And the traveller in the dark
Thanks you for your tiny spark
Would he know which to go
If you did not twinkle so?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Twinkle Little Star
From: Snuffy
Date: 05 Jul 06 - 09:46 AM

Not three but FIVE verses according to Wikipedia

Perhaps it is little known that Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star actually consists of 5 verses, with the fifth verse rarely sung. Here's the complete 5 verses, taken from the Oxford Dictionary of Nursery Rhymes (2nd edition, 1997), with the repetition of the first two lines added to fit the melody.

Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
How I wonder what you are!
Up above the world so high,
Like a diamond in the sky.
Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
How I wonder what you are!

When the blazing sun is gone,
When he nothing shines upon,
Then you show your little light,
Twinkle, twinkle, all the night.
Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
How I wonder what you are!

Then the traveller in the dark,
Thanks you for your tiny spark,
He could not see which way to go,
If you did not twinkle so.
Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
How I wonder what you are!

In the dark blue sky you keep,
And often through my curtains peep,
For you never shut your eye,
Till the sun is in the sky.
Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
How I wonder what you are!

As your bright and tiny spark,
Lights the traveller in the dark,—
Though I know not what you are,
Twinkle, twinkle, little star.
Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
How I wonder what you are!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Twinkle Little Star
From: Snuffy
Date: 05 Jul 06 - 09:49 AM

Original poem The Star


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Twinkle Little Star
From: s&r
Date: 05 Jul 06 - 10:07 AM

Some info on the Authors


Stu


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Twinkle Little Star
From: Louie Roy
Date: 05 Jul 06 - 10:28 AM

The drunkard's version

Starkle Starkle little star
Who the hell do you think you are
We're not under the influence of alcohol
although some steeple think we are
And the drunker we sit here the longer we get


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Twinkle Little Star
From: IanC
Date: 05 Jul 06 - 11:00 AM

... or ...
(Spike Milligan)


Twinkle, twinkle, little star,
Now I know just what you are.
You're an empty rocket case;
A rubbish tip in outer space.
:-)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Twinkle Little Star
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 05 Jul 06 - 11:05 AM

Thread 16975- more : Twinkle


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Twinkle Little Star
From: jojofolkagogo
Date: 06 Jul 06 - 12:02 PM

Hello everyone,

thanks for your, helpful, informative, ridiculous and

very humerous responses


Special thanks to Snuffy


Great Stuff


Best regards
from Jo-Jo


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Twinkle Little Star
From: Kaleea
Date: 06 Jul 06 - 02:03 PM

The first melody my 20 month old neice has learned to sing recognizably is


                itull-
         gee-ko         arr . . ."



"gee-ko


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Twinkle Little Star
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 06 Jul 06 - 03:21 PM

Some information that I have from the National Trust, indicates that it was first published in 1804, in 'Rhymes for the Nursery' by Jane and Anne Taylor, daughters of painter and engraver Isaac Taylor. They lived in Lavenham between 1786-1796.

Looks like there is a discrepancy over the date.... but the National Trust has been known to get things wrong occasionally.

LTS


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Star (Jane & Anne Taylor) 'Twinkle...
From: jojofolkagogo
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 09:03 AM

I got my info FIRST HAND at the Ongar Historic Society

they have a "time Line" where they note everything that happens in the village

and 1843 was when the Taylors (father was the local church minister - would not get that wrong -churches keep exemplary records) moved to Ongar for father to take job...

and it was written by JANE not ANN according to their researches.

Special thanks to PAUL BURKE
I have read, and re-read your poem take on this one, and I think it is absolutely BRILLIANT !!!

THANKS FOR THAT PAUL

and thanks to all others to contributed to this thread ...


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Star (Jane & Anne Taylor) 'Twinkle...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 14 Jul 06 - 07:46 PM

1806- "Rhymes for the Nursery," Ann and Jane Taylor the book itself (not the poem) authored by Isaac Taylor.

(1804)1805 (when the two volumes distributed). Various authors and contributors (Anne and Jane Taylor and Adelaide O'Keeffe, Isaac Taylor), "Original Poems for Infant Minds," two volumes. First publication of "Star."

Ann Taylor- 1782-1866; Jane Taylor- 1873-1824 (not alive when the family moved to Ongar; Isaac Taylor- 1787-1865.

Canon Isaac Taylor- 1829-1901.

I think that properly sorts the books and Taylors.


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