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Start a session In Lincoln?

Daithi 14 Jun 06 - 07:33 AM
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Subject: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Daithi
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 07:33 AM

Sorry, Merikans..that's the original Lincoln Lincolnshire UK, not Nebraska, Kansas etc.(But if you cover the air fare, I'll buy the beer)

Amazingly there isn't a regular session at all in or close to the city so a couple of folks are trying to get one going. Venue should not be a problem (likely village pub in Branston2 miles from centre) but so far we have only a guitarist/singer and 3 whistle players. Not exactly the balance we need!
What we're looking for is a handful of folks who could commit to one Sunday a fortnight, say..for a limited period just to get the thing off the ground. We need to attain critical mass, then hopefully other locals from the folk scene around the county - of which there are many - would come and join in as and when.
Interested? Please post or PM me with your thoughts!
All the best - might see some of you at Beverly sessions Saturday afternoon! Dáithí


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Gedpipes
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 07:46 AM

Dáithí
Why sundays?
You might get more if you do it mid week in a back room pub in Lincoln.
You might want to ask on The Session notice board


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 07:47 AM

Nice thought although Branston is a bit of a trek from Gainsborough. Lincoln itself is far enough and it is sometimes an effort to get that far.....how about finding somewhere a little to the North of Lincoln....??? Best wishes, Mike.


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: The Villan
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 06:21 PM

Like Gainsborough or Market Rasen :-)


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Rockhen
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 06:43 PM

I am not being critical and I'm all for live music happening but I find traditional tune sessions, as in playing traditional tunes and all joining in the ones you know, hard to join in with if you aren't someone who has been brought up on the tunes. I am gradually picking a few up but I don't go to them often enough to learn enough, to make sessions much fun for me. I have been to several different sessions and I have always found, that although the people who attend are usually friendly... by the very nature of the session type evening, in my experience, they tend to feel a bit exclusive and by the end of it I always feel that I haven't had much chance to join in and haven't learnt many of the tunes.
Good luck if you get the group off the ground, though. I know a lot of people seem to really enjoy these nights and I am all for anything that enables people to enjoy music together.
I guess, when setting up a new session or club, it would be considerate to check out what is already available in the area and try to avoid clashes with that. There are loads of great musicians in this area so I am sure you will manage to set the night up!


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Rockhen
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 06:52 PM

PS I repeat...I was NOT having a go, just sharing my own experiences of sessions. I have often wondered if any of the regular sessions suggested tunes for people to learn...like perhaps...next time we will do x, y and z during the evening...so you would know if you had the relevant tunes learnt, you could at least join in with them for maybe 10 mins. Then, I suppose you would gradually learn tunes...a few more each week.
Maybe some groups do include some learning of tunes, if so, I stand corrected and that sounds great! Good luck, anyway. Hope it is a success.


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Leadfingers
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 07:00 PM

The Slow Tunes Session thing is not a bad idea for people like Rockhen , who dont know all the standard session tunes , or who cant busk round till they get the melody . I get up to Newark fairly regularly and would be happy to pop over if you were running when I was Ooop North !!


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Rockhen
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 07:14 PM

Thanks for that. I thought there were probably tune sessions where it is more of a learning evening for those who want to work on it more. Sounds to be a good idea for those who are more folk orientated. i am less of a trad folkie (again, no criticism intended) than into a wider variety of live music including writing my own so I suppose it is not really my thing at the moment. I love my accordion but my piano just has the edge for me! Good luck with the session anyway!


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Sooz
Date: 15 Jun 06 - 02:33 AM

Thats a really good suggestion Rockhen. Like you, I don't know enough to have a go at sessions and would appreciate some help with what to learn for next time.
Mind you, it just occured to me that it would be a bit of a step backwards if we all turned up at a folk club one night knowing what songs to expect!


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Banjo-Flower
Date: 15 Jun 06 - 03:10 AM

Soldier's Joy is probally a good starters tune
Usually sounds good whatever speed it's played at

Gerry


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Valmai Goodyear
Date: 15 Jun 06 - 05:50 AM

Rocken et al,

Have a look at the recent thread 'slow/learning sessions' which deals with exactly the sort of topics you are raising here.

Best wishes,

Valmai (Lewes, Sussex)


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Valmai Goodyear
Date: 15 Jun 06 - 05:58 AM

Sorry for dropping your h, Rockhen.

For a selection of popular English session tunes in abc, Noteworthy Composer and midi, follow the links from the 'Lewes Favourites' page on the Lewes Arms Folk Club website:

http://members.aol.com/lewesarmsfolk/Lewesfav.html

Valmai


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: GUEST,BBP at work
Date: 15 Jun 06 - 06:23 AM

The slow/learning session thread is excellent. I'd be interested in a beginner's session near Lincoln. Depends on the meeting time and day though.

Deirdre


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: GUEST,jOhn
Date: 15 Jun 06 - 11:11 AM

Its too far away.


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Ruston Hornsby
Date: 15 Jun 06 - 11:32 AM

One thing that's been puzzling me for a while since I've seen mention on various forums of "slow/learning sessions".....is the idea then to learn the tunes and then play them as fast as you can regardless of what you're playing - or is the term "session" being applied here when "Irish" or, rather "Fast and Furious Celtic" should really be applied(?) Being very much English rather than Celtic/Scottish etc in my folk taste, I think it's important to at least give an indication of what type of session you are looking to start so people know what they're letting themselves in for.

And as far as Soldier's Joy is concerned, Gerry, I think we managed to find the exception to "usually sounds good" rule on the occasion in the distant past...


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Banjo-Flower
Date: 15 Jun 06 - 12:16 PM

Would that be in Kings Lynn Ruston?

Gerry


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: 12string growler
Date: 15 Jun 06 - 12:41 PM

I'm Happy to muck in at any speed as chord wangler. I just love playing in sessions. As anybody that used to go to the session at SCOTTON inb the 80's will know, sessionbs can be a good place to develop ones skills AS LONG AS THE MORE PROFICIENT REMEMBER THAT THEY TOO WERE LEARNERS!

If Banjo Flower is up for it, count me in.

Chris


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Banjo-Flower
Date: 15 Jun 06 - 03:02 PM

Dáithí Many apologies for the thread hi-jack

Rockhen If you want to learn traditional tunes you could gile the reely grim night a try at Rothwell where many of North Lincolnshires
well known traditional players meet to play for the dancers for pleasure not money the same tune will be played anything up to a dozen times and the less experienced can join in as and when they like and theres always music on hand if interested ask The Villan about it(he loves talking)
As to your comment about being brought up with the tunes I did n't start playing in traditional sessions till I was almost 40

Do n't forget we were all learners once and some of remember being in same position as you

Gerry


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 15 Jun 06 - 03:13 PM

I am not being critical and I'm all for live music happening but I find traditional tune sessions, as in playing traditional tunes and all joining in the ones you know, hard to join in with if you aren't someone who has been brought up on the tunes.

The best way of learning session tunes is to go along to sessions and have a go, even if you can only manage one note a bar, following a basic chord sequence. That way you can get the tunes into your head. If you can manage a skeletal tune, so much the better. You can still have fun even if you never progress to the twiddly bits. Eventually you may get to the stage where you can start a tune and everyone joins in with you – a very satisfying experience. In the meantime you can enjoy the company and talent of those around you.

I've been playing fiddle for about five years but I tend to learn tunes on the mandolin and switch to the fiddle for tunes I already know. I'm now at the stage where I play for about half the time and listen for half the time.

At least in sessions there are others to cover your mistakes. Session are not nearly so scary as standing up and singing solo with my guitar which I have been playing for over 40 years.


Dáithí,

I wouldn't be able to be a regular but, if you manage to get your session going, I could be an occasional visitor.


DC


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: The Villan
Date: 15 Jun 06 - 03:58 PM

What about Brownlows Antique barn then?

Rockhen - I think you would enjoy going to the reely grim club. Have a chat with me on Friday if you are coming to MRFC.


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Banjo-Flower
Date: 15 Jun 06 - 04:05 PM

"Brownlows Antique barn" any volunteers to write this tune

Gerry


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: warpy
Date: 15 Jun 06 - 06:00 PM

The Black Boy session very quickly got established.It would be better to try for a pub in central lincoln.Advertise in the session org, a poster in the pub and some in the University.Try and con some of the better players locally that you know to come along and give you some support at least for the first session.A city as big as Lincoln surely
can support one good session.A lot of folkies never look at mudcat so local papers and local music shops are as likely as anything to getword around.I also put slips of paper on tables at the local folk clubs and south yorkshire folk website carries listings of all the sessions in the area and includes the North Lincs ones.We stated what type of session it was going to be right from the start.
Hope it all goes well.
Try the Tiger if you are in Beverley on Saturday last year it was excellent mainly fast Irish just your sort of thing Daithi.Janet x


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Rockhen
Date: 15 Jun 06 - 08:11 PM

I went to the Reely Grim night at Rothwell one night when a band I was playing in, were preparing to do a ceilidh. I was looking to collect a few tunes that worked well with specific dances. Unfortunately there were 10 people there only, 8 of which were doing the dances, (I think most were there for the dancing although there was perhaps a couple of musicians within the group,) and one whistle player...the evening ended up with myself and the whistle player playing through a few tunes , (I think they had a tune book, whilst the others danced. i guess I picked a night that was very quiet, perhaps.
My problem is not playing the tunes, really, I can read music and can also play by ear but of course, playing by ear usually requires you to know how the tune goes, well enough to play it. It was more the feeling of not being involved and almost feeling unwelcome when i went to a few sessions. By the sound of it, I should try going to a few different ones as they are maybe all very different.


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Tim theTwangler
Date: 15 Jun 06 - 10:58 PM

They do appear to be a quite unfreindly bunch at these sessions specially if you wanna play a bodrhan.
There are some very good musicians around and not all of thenm are up their own arses to the extent that it first apears.
But they do tend to not make any effort to help you join in at sessions that are established and unfortunatly they tend to go around in a flock so you get the same smug faces turning up at all the local venues.
Will have a look at reely grim as have heard the name acouple of times and been tempted what /where/when would be useful.
The small session that Cara seemed to head up was ok for freindly welcome to newcomers.
The 6 Bells at Barrow is quite spectaular for numbers and some of them will talk to newcomers.
I suppose ones face has to fit eh?


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: open mike
Date: 16 Jun 06 - 01:30 AM

one's face has to fit in the bodhran?

fellow bodran player, i feel your pain!


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: open mike
Date: 16 Jun 06 - 01:45 AM

so i guess that is not Illinois or California, either.
or Abraham?


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Daithi
Date: 16 Jun 06 - 07:04 AM

Sorry for not responding sooner - i've been away from the Mudcatfor a while.
Thanks for so many postive comments and suggestions. the session date and venue are not at all fixed - it just so happens that this particular pub has a quiet night on a sunday and the landlord loves our (Gone2theDogs) music and himself plays the didge.
But a city centre venue on a weeknight is just as likely.
We're mainly interestd in irish music - but, like the excellent six bells session, have no problem with allcomers. free and easy is how I like it.

Rockhen's point is well taken - and no problem with thread hijack - it's all grist to the mill.
I guess the answer is , like all sessions, it depends who turns up! I'd be more than happy to make it slower for beginners - hell, we could even have a slowr start (say 8pm till 9pm) for beginners, and would be happy to teach and practise new tunes in that part meself!

If anyone who's interestd on these lines would like to pm me, with preferred nights, an indiocation of their experience etc etc - I'l see what i can do!

Meanwhile, if you're at Beverley tomorroa (Sat) afternoon and see me , come say hello.
Dáithí


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Banjo-Flower
Date: 17 Jun 06 - 07:51 AM

"up their own arses ""unfreindly bunch ""same smug faces "Do we have a musical problem or an attitude one

Gerry


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Skipjack K8
Date: 17 Jun 06 - 08:41 AM

I rather liked that description, Gerry! Or is it 'I resemble that remark'!


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Banjo-Flower
Date: 17 Jun 06 - 09:34 AM

I Would 'nt say you were smug or unfriendly as to the other what you do in your own bedroom is nowt to do w'me

Gerry


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Tim theTwangler
Date: 17 Jun 06 - 10:58 AM

Hi Banjo Flower
You should try being on the outside of the circle looking in.
There does seem to be a clique at sessions that is unfreindly to newcomers.
Especially for we begginers.
(Especially if you wanna learn the Bodrahn.)
If yours is different eg freindly,welcoming.helpfull that is great.
When where is it please.


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Banjo-Flower
Date: 17 Jun 06 - 11:40 AM

Tim I spent about 15 years on the outside of the circle looking in and wishing I could play as well as everyone else
Try treating it as part of learning
As for my session I don't have one Im more of a Scarlet Pimpernel
You don't know when or where I'll show up

Gerry


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Banjo-Flower
Date: 17 Jun 06 - 12:59 PM

Rockhen you must have gone to Reely Grim on a bad night
This week Tuesday 13th May there were
2Banjos
2fiddles
2Hammer Dulcimers
3Melodeons
1keyboard
1 12string Guirar
1 6 string Guitar
1 Whistle
1 Accordion
at least 4 Callers

All for 8 Dancers

Gerry

(apologies to any one I may have missed)


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Tim theTwangler
Date: 17 Jun 06 - 01:18 PM

Part of learning?
What is?
being left out?
All that would teach anybody is that people are selfish and mean.
If you mean joining in at same tempo as others that doesnt happen untill you get the experience of playing with more advanced players.
The standard around here is good but Fifteen years hmmmm?
I suspect I have misunderstood what your meaning was in this posting.


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Banjo-Flower
Date: 17 Jun 06 - 02:21 PM

I 'm beggining to think that everything I say is going to be taken as a personal insult so forget it Tim I'm going back to being unfriendly,unhelpful and smug

Gerry


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: The Villan
Date: 17 Jun 06 - 03:31 PM

Tim
I think you are hitting at the wrong bloke in Gerry. He is a very nice bloke and always willing to help anybody, as you will find out if you go to the Reely Grim Club.
In fact both Gerry, Chris & Eamon from the Rosianna Ceilidh Band are all samshing blokes and all give their time to the Reely Grim Club.
Les


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Banjo-Flower
Date: 17 Jun 06 - 05:58 PM

We've never been "samshing blokes" before
is it like being egg fried rice
or chicken foo young

Its like being on a Chinese resturuant menu

Sorry Les I was going to ignore this thread from now on but just could 'nt resist this

best wishes

Gerry


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: The Villan
Date: 17 Jun 06 - 06:09 PM

Oh bugger, me and my dyslexic fingers LOL Smashing - must shhhtop drrrrrinkinnnnng :-)


Anyway you are good blokes. And so is Tim. It don't make sense to fall out.

I'll get me coat and go to the chinkie :-)


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 17 Jun 06 - 06:28 PM

Tim,

I have to disagree with you on this, and I'll give you a couple of examples.

A few years go, when I was still fairly new to sessions, I went to a session for the first time and was included enough for the others to ask me my name. I remember that distinctly because, shortly before that, I had posted on Mudcat complaining about the proliferation of Punch the Horse threads and the amount of BS therein. Banjo-flower put two and two together and worked out that I was probably the Doug that had criticised him and other local Catters. Instead of giving me a poke in the eye, he bought me a pint. How much more welcoming can you be.

When I went to the Mudcat Eurogathering last month, we went to a session in Cork. The other Catters considered the skill level of the local musicians to be too high and left there instruments in their cases. As playing with experts was one of the things I had hoped for when visiting Ireland, I asked if I could sit in, explaining that I might only make one note a bar. They were most welcoming and some non-musicians even gave up their seat for me so that I could join the group. During a quite moment, two or three of us managed to form a mandolin corner for one tune and then joined back in with the others as the main session got going again The fact that the other Catters didn't join in was their choice and they were very happy to listen and admire.

Neither of these examples seem to indicate a clique at sessions that is unfriendly to newcomers. Perhaps it is not just beauty that is in the eye of the beholder.


DC


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Tim theTwangler
Date: 17 Jun 06 - 07:16 PM

Well Doug I am afraid I would take asking other people what I should call them in a social setting like a session,as just being polite.
You know,the normal thing to do.
By your own seeming suprise at this happening I assume that you also found this to be unusaual.
the bit about the Irish is what you should Expect.
They are far more civilised than the brits.LOL.
As to Banjo Flower maybe you should read what I put.
If the cap fits wear it,if it doesnt then you are not one of the ones I refered to.
If you dont want to respond to my further queries for clarification
on the point you were making which as I said I may have misunderstood
then fine is your choice.
Villan I was not having ago at anybody.
If they answer my posting and I cant understand what the heck they mean I cant help that if they wanna sulk instead of clarifying their point that is fine also.is only a thread on mudcat not a matter of life and death. Cheeers all


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Rockhen
Date: 17 Jun 06 - 08:17 PM

Hmmmmmmmmm!
Maybe if everyone met up and chatted instead of trying to figure out what everyone else meant from a few typed words, there would be less difference of opinion, or at least more understanding of everyone else's stance on this....LOL!
On reading the above, and knowing one or two of the posters, i think you would all actually get on quite well if you met instead of just trying to interpret a person's views from a few words. Not getting at anyone but I think most of us have similar hopes...that being...to find places to play music and enjoy like minded people's company, LOL again!
I think if I go to sessions again, I will aim to be more confident at introducing myself. Stating politely, like Doug did,(rather than apologising, like I tend to have done, sometimes) that I am going to try joining in but may only manage a few bars here and there at first...AND that I will play quietly, (!) until I get the tune, sounds like a good idea, to me.
I think I will hopefully try the Reely Grim night at Rothwell, again, after so many positive comments about it.
Incidently, I know it is off the thread, again, but, just because you don't know many traditional tunes, doesn't mean you aren't a competent musician, just that you haven't got much experience in that particular strand of music. Of course, everyone knew that, sorry if I am saying something obvious. No matter, how nice most people are, there are always a few who like to make themselves feel better by putting others down,it is is just the same with musicians...a very small minority can spoil it for others. I am fortunate, I have not met many like that. Good luck with the Lincoln session (my attempt to pretend I was sticking with this thread, whoops!)


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: The Villan
Date: 18 Jun 06 - 02:06 AM

Tim did meet Gerry, Chris, Eamon and Doug at the session at Faldingwoth Scarecrow session on Saturday June 3rd, but may not have realised that.
If you go to this link Tim, you will find pictures of the session, and the above mentioned people were there playing.
http://www.marketrasenfolkclub.f2s.com/Faldingworth%20Scarecrow%20Exhibition%202006%20Photo's.htm


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: The Villan
Date: 18 Jun 06 - 02:08 AM

Forgot, Dáithí was in there as well.


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 18 Jun 06 - 04:45 AM

Politeness is all I ask for Tim. Unless people are actually positively rude and tell me to my face that I'm not wanted, then I assume that I am welcome. The rest is up to me.

I was not surprised at all at being included in the normal social chit-chat – it was what I expected – and the conversation went a good deal further than that, to the point where we established the common ground of Mudcat. What did surprise me, and fused the event into my memory, was Banjo-Flower's reaction. After that, when our paths crossed at various sessions around and about, I saw a familiar, friendly face that made fitting in all the easier.

I've heard Dáithí play lots of times on his whistle and they're often the tunes I listen to instead of joining in with. I see Dáithí as a familiar face rather than one of the "same smug faces". We have only had about 3 minutes direct face-to-face conversation about the Gaelic written on our respective T-shirts but I am sure that I would be made welcome if I were to visit the proposed Lincoln session


DC


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Tim theTwangler
Date: 18 Jun 06 - 05:16 AM

Yes I gotta fair Idea who they are vilan,I have met Doug many times he is a great bloke and plays some lovely materiel wHich I and many many others have greatly enjoyed listening too.
In fact at the Tap and Spile in Grimsby is considered quite as the highlight of the evening when Doug has his go.
If any body actualy bothered to read the words I use they would see that I at no point mentioned any of the people on this thread.
Doug did nod and say hi Laurrie was to busy playing as were the rest of them.
I will repeat some of the sessions I have attended been less than freindly or welcoming especialy to Bodrhan players.
I do not mean that they failed to stop in the middle of aset to chat and buy me a beer,I mean that they either do not acknowledge yur presense or they make it clear that you are not included in the circle.
I dont see the great advantage in waiting fifteen years to have a go
I am too old to waste that much time.
I did ask for clarification but was not forthcoming I dont know why ,must just be another example of the warm welcome that is forthcoming at sessions.
It seems that another contributer Rockhen has the same experience of sessions and you you couldnt meet a more pleasent personable young lady than her.
You yourself were very welcoming as always and willing to introduce me to the singaround at the scarcrow festival you see I thought it was all rather splendid. The nice guy playing the whistle was even good enought to play a tune just for Bodrhan players so how would I have made any comments that included that bunch of excellent musicians in my posting


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Banjo-Flower
Date: 18 Jun 06 - 05:31 AM

Hi Tim sulk over I did 'nt clarify be cause I'm finding your responses as difficult to understand as your finding mine so I suggest we agree to differ at least until we can meet and have a pint together,I believe its Dougs round but you know what he's like short arms and deep pockets
Gerry(running and weaving)


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Rockhen
Date: 18 Jun 06 - 05:50 AM

I HAVE had the same experience of feeling uncomfortable at sessions. I suspect, like in a lot of situations, if I had been more confident and said that I would try to join in quietly on some bits...more people, would have been welcoming.
I have experience myself, of playing music at certain events and suddenly realising that I am totally unaware of others because I am enjoying playing and concentrating on the sound of the music. Someone could have done a bit of fire juggling/lion taming/(or other more unmentionable activities) right in front of me and I wouldn't have noticed...not because I was being snotty, just because I was 'lost' in the music.
However, in my opinion, there are some musicians...just a small number, who are not welcoming to newcomers at these events. Maybe these people should make sure that they sit at one side of a session furthest from the door so that they don't have to sit near anyone who may intrude on their idea of a session? Maybe they could wear a badge saying 'no beginners to sit near me'(said...with the intention of not being taken too seriously!)
Equally, any newcomers, who intend to play loudly, (whether or not they can play the right notes in the right order)and without any consideration for those who are already playing could think whether they need to provide an earplug for those ears closest to them.(JOKE!)
I do not refer to anyone above as I am sure you are all charming, encouraging musicians!
This thread, although it has strayed from the original post thread, has been useful to me because it has made me think that i will perhaps be more assertive if I go to a session again and try to join in more. Thanks, Dáithí .
Good luck with the Lincoln session and let us know on here where and when, if you get it finalised. I promise not to play too loudly if I get to it!


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Rockhen
Date: 18 Jun 06 - 05:53 AM

Awwww group hug, lol!
(Not being patronising, BTW...:-) Hope to meet some of you at one of these sessions, sometime!)


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Tim theTwangler
Date: 18 Jun 06 - 08:33 AM

Banjo flower I will look forward to pint and dunno about Doug being tight he is lovely guy in all other ways apart from is bad to follow at open mike on account of thunderous applause he always gets.
My mate Rockhen says I come over as aggressive, on these threads which I am not.So I am getting sort of used to folk taking me wrong way . I am however arguementative and contentious so there we are.
I really enjoyed listening toal at scarecrow festival and the setting was near perfect only needing bikini clad serving wenches with free beer to finish it off.
Have mailed to link Villan sent so can get details of forthcoming Reely Grim happenings so can maybe get ear in at slightly slower tunes before attempting the speed sessions.
Cheers Tim


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Subject: RE: Start a session In Lincoln?
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 18 Jun 06 - 07:12 PM

Hey, this is going to cost me money!!!

short arms and deep pockets

There's no need to say things like that just because it's true!


DC


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