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BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom

Big Mick 12 Jun 06 - 06:04 PM
Greg F. 12 Jun 06 - 06:13 PM
WFDU - Ron Olesko 12 Jun 06 - 06:22 PM
Big Mick 12 Jun 06 - 06:27 PM
harpmolly 12 Jun 06 - 10:41 PM
Ron Davies 12 Jun 06 - 11:20 PM
Amos 12 Jun 06 - 11:54 PM
dianavan 13 Jun 06 - 12:30 AM
Thomas the Rhymer 13 Jun 06 - 12:33 AM
harpmolly 13 Jun 06 - 01:01 AM
harpmolly 13 Jun 06 - 01:04 AM
Ebbie 13 Jun 06 - 04:50 AM
Ron Davies 13 Jun 06 - 07:21 AM
Thomas the Rhymer 13 Jun 06 - 10:55 AM
GUEST 13 Jun 06 - 11:19 AM
Big Mick 13 Jun 06 - 01:17 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Big Mick
Date: 12 Jun 06 - 06:04 PM

How ridiculous!


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Greg F.
Date: 12 Jun 06 - 06:13 PM

I just heard on radio (Fox of course) that a magazine has suggested that DougR should commit suicide. How many of you agree?


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 12 Jun 06 - 06:22 PM

Doug, you are mixing up the stories. Of course people are calling her insensitive for the comments that she made about the 9/11 widows taking advantage of their misery. What Coulter was saying that she could not critize their politics and opinions because they were widows. No one has called her insensitive for critizing their opinino - Coulter has been critized for her statements about their status as widows. She, and everyone else, is free to say that the 9/11 widows are wrong in their stance that the U.S. were not prepared and their views of the adminstrations (plural) is wrong. If she left it at that, there would have been no outcry - other than normal debate. Instead, she took it to the gutter.

Show me where there was complaints if I am wrong.

And no - I do not think anyone should be encouraged to take their life. Stop being silly.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Big Mick
Date: 12 Jun 06 - 06:27 PM

As was pointed out above, I am waiting for her, and DougR, to express their outrage at those "broads" who spoke out in favor of the President's policies and re-election during the campaign, and at the GOP convention. I am waiting for either of them to indicate how much they are enjoying the deaths of their husbands because of the notoriety it brings them.

I will probably wait a long time....

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: harpmolly
Date: 12 Jun 06 - 10:41 PM

OK, GUEST from 07:35 AM... (This is beginning to sound like "Oh, I once loved a lass who alas loved a lad had a lass loved a lad loved another lass...") I would PM you to continue this conversation in a more streamlined fashion, but oops...I can't do that, as you are A Nonny Mouse.

Anyway. My point. My "yellow-bellied" comment was a riff on your own (again, assuming you are the same GUEST) statement that only cowards resort to personal attacks. As in, Ann Coulter could have easily criticized the widows without kicking up nearly this amount of fuss. She chose, instead, to descend, as Ron O. put it so beautifully, to the gutter instead. By your own logic, this makes her a coward.

And DougR...what a lovely, juicy piece of bait you're dangling before us. Shame I had sushi for lunch today. Better luck next time?

Molly


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Ron Davies
Date: 12 Jun 06 - 11:20 PM

Any sensible person with any humanity knows there's a huge difference between Coulter's vicious, uncalled-for ravings----at the expense of 9-11 widows, yet---and those widows' own statements.

We've seen who has decency, sense, and guts--and who defends Coulter's revolting smears. So we know all we need to know about the people behind each of those postings. So much for Doug R's carefully nurtured image (facade) as a "gentleman", for instance.

This would be a perfect time for the so-called conservatives we have on Mudcat to do a "Sister Souljah" as Clinton did.

Fascinating that none of the "conservatives" have done so.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Amos
Date: 12 Jun 06 - 11:54 PM

DOug:

I think she is deeply troubled -- one would have to be in order to retreat into so false a representation of humanity as she has.

And if she were to commit suicide, because at some point she cracked the window just enough to get a peek at what she hadf been actually doing these last many years, I would be sorry but I would not be surprised.

However, I do not think it is likely to happen while the heat of battle is upon her, and therefore predict she will fade out into a very bitter and old person, unheard of by the general public, and (I expect) quite unhappy with herself.

A different sort of death, possibly.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: dianavan
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 12:30 AM

Unfortunately, she has probably made enough investments that she is laughing all the way to the bank even if she does fade into obscurity. As far as suicide or regrets of any kind...

I doubt it. People like that don't have a conscience.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 12:33 AM

Wow Ebbie... talk about obscure... And the point you are making is... what, exactly?

Mine is this...

If Ann Coulter was standing on a stage in front of the mudcat... strumming a Martin dreadnaught and singing soulfully about being wronged... she would be sought after and coveted by many here. But because she is on the 'other side' of some imaginary duality, the vociferous 'ad hominem' has become a useful weapon for many of you to use against her as a person. This is hypoctitical and substandard.

Hey, the lady isn't going to win any prizes for being cuddly and heart-warming... and that is our loss as well as her's... with her writing. But all you know of her is from her 'day job' as a political writer and provocateur... Stick to the issues, and agree or disagree with her... or lose by default, in a fit of reaction that is beneath all of us.

She proves to us again and again, that we'd rather react than think... and we feel compelled to toe the 'party line' withhout breaking ranks instead of questioning our motives for doing so.

Just like here at mudcat, the lesson is constantly renewed... Don't Feed the Flames.

Hating the world only makes it worse.

ttr


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: harpmolly
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 01:01 AM

Sought after and coveted? Not by me, Rhymer. And just what is this imaginary duality you are on about? Not so imaginary, in my opinion. Here's the duality I see:

The "Jersey Girls" called for an investigation of the events leading to the tragedy that took their husbands' lives. They then (in disillusionment over an administration that used the tragedy to further their military and political ends) had the temerity to question the administration's handling of its aftermath, and (horrors!) to support the opposing candidate. (In Jon Stewart's unfailingly hilarious words: "How DARE the Democrats field a candidate? And in an ELECTION YEAR?!?!?!?!?!?"...*LOL*)

VS:

Ann Coulter, in the midst of what could have been a valid point (whether or not I agree with it, I see what she was saying) chose to use vicious, libelous language and sink to gutter-trash-talking, all in hopes of boosting her book sales. And you are accusing *us* of ad hominem attacks?

If Ann Coulter was standing in front of the Mudcat with a Martin dreadnought (though I see her more as an Ovation gal myself...cheap and plastic...how's that for ad hominem?) and sang a song with the lyrics, "Those Jersey Girls, yeah, don't you know they'd better spread it in Playboy, yeah, because their shelf life is going down, down, down the tubes..." I'd boo her off the stage. For bad writing just as much as the sentiments. ;)

M

P.S. I do solemnly swear that this is absolutely my last post to this thread. I'm sort of nauseated by the amount of energy I have wasted on this woman...


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: harpmolly
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 01:04 AM

P.S. OK, this really is the last. I just wanted to apologize to any Ovation fans out there. What a horrible thing for me to say about what is probably a fine guitar. ;)) I would like to formally revoke any association I may have created between Ann Coulter and Ovations. Of any kind. ;)

Really done now.

M


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Ebbie
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 04:50 AM

As harpmolly said. It is not an ad hominem attack when you are referring to what you hve listened to that person say. And when you have not only read what the person said but you have watched her and her body language in what she says- well, that is what is called judgment. It does not attack anything at all outside the parameters of the persona she presents.

My 'obscure' post? I simply took your post, ttr, and had it spoken by a famous 'gentleman'. I was hoping you might realize that you are speaking nonsense. Utter balderdash.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Ron Davies
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 07:21 AM

Suicide? That would be a bit harsh. Perhaps a frustrated embittered spinsterhood. And impoverished--perhaps after a successful suit by one of the 9-11 widows. Now that would be poetic justice for dear Ann. Unlikely--but we can dream.

And something similar for anybody who defends her remarks about the widows.

Anybody who wanted to avoid such a fate could easily do so--by the simple expedient of CLEARLY condemning her remarks--with no hedging about how she was partially justified.

She was not justified in the least.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 10:55 AM

You might very well think so Molly... I couldn't possibly comment.... ;^)

Gosh Ron... Feeling testy and spoiling for a fight? OK then.

I don't think Ann Coulter actually writes her own books. IMHO, she may be one of many figureheads behind which Cheney and Rumsfeld (and the people they work for) operate. She is a lawyer arguing a case. Fixating on the council is just plain foolishness.

Step back for a momment. The severity of Ann's personal 'ad hominem' attacks is bordering on desperate... and she's no housewife. The 'Jersey Gals' are posing a tangible threat to the administration by persisting in their persuit for clarity and verification... and consequentially, they are kicking up the dust in some pretty dark 'Neo-Con' corners the way no one else can.

"...they should just take thier settlement money and shut up about it... " (or something similar)... Has an unmistakeable tone don'tchathink?

Ann is just the messenger... and yet another decoy...

Don't waste your efforts insulting a 'pit bull'.

Just 'cause I 'like her' doesn't mean we need to agree on everything... ;^)

Good Morning, and God Bless you!
ttr


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 11:19 AM

Her name will appear in the OED under (n) cunt.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Big Mick
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 01:17 PM

So .... in your considered opinion then, cunt is a perjorative for what? A sexist perjorative for a female? I despise this woman's comments, but I am disgusted by your use of this term. It is akin to the "N" word.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 01:21 PM

Cunt is an English word that refers to the human female genitalia, continuing Proto-Germanic *kunton. It is considered by some to be the most offensive word in the English language[1]. Some reject this exclusively negative connotation as inherently sexist towards women, and claim that insult is an inappropriate use for word which once meant respect for women. In general English usage, the Latin term vulva (or, less accurately, vagina) is considered to be much more polite. The earliest citation of the word in the Oxford English Dictionary is a reference to the London street name "Gropecunt Lane" dated to about 1230. The Germanic word was possibly influenced by Latin cunnus.

Like many vulgar words, cunt owes some of its potency to its phonetic characteristics. Its monosyllabic nature, combined with the hard k sound at the beginning and the sharp t at the end make it well-suited for use as an epithet or interjection.

In non-amorous situations, "cunt" is primarily used as a term of personal abuse, generally considered the most offensive description of either a man or (especially) a woman. In English, it implies that the named person is extremely nasty and unpleasant in a way that far exceeds the vehemence of the word "bitch," for example. In the film One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest, for instance, the central character McMurphy, when pressed to explain exactly why he doesn't like the tyrannical Nurse Ratched, says: "She's something of a cunt, ain't she?"

In England, "cunt" is also considered a foul and insulting word by many, but it is used by and about men more often than women. In Australia, and to a lesser extent England, while still being considered highly offensive in most contexts, the word is also often used and received more gently, to the extent that in some situations it has a comedic quality and can even be used as a term of affection. During foreplay and/or sex, men and women alike may be excited by using the word "cunt" to refer to female genitalia. This is probably due, in part, to its phonetic potency (see above) and its perceived "dirtiness."


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Wesley S
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 01:34 PM

"Just because you can doesn't mean you should"


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 01:46 PM

The word is too good for Coulter.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: GUEST,Larry K
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 03:03 PM

Ann Coulter has sold well over 1 million books.   This will be her best selling book ever and put her closer to 2 millions books sold.   How many political authors have sold 2 million books?

Over the top insensitive remarks- How about Howard Deam "I hate republicans" "republicans have never worked an honest day in their lives" or Louis Farakan, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Micaal Moore, Al Franken, Randy Rhodes, John Kerry, Dick Durbin, or Jerry Springer (to name a few)   I have yet to see any mudcat criticism.

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield, and most republican leaders have been referred to as Hitler by Democrats.   Name a republican who has called a democratic leader Hitler.   A collumnist suggested Clarence Thomas eat bacon and die of a heart attack.   A cartoon showed Bush pushing an old lady out of a wheelchair.   An NAACP ad accused repuplicans of lyning black people.

All of this is standard practice for liberals.    When you can't debate Coulter in the arena of ideas throw a pie in her face, or at Howowitz, or moon rumsfield.    Show your true intellectual property of a 5 year old.

The biggest difference between Coulter and Moore (aside from 400 pounds) is that Coulter tells the truth and documents it while Moore lies and makes things up and has been caught over and over.

Earth to Ron:   Before you proclaim conservatism dead and Coulters "days are numbered" you may want to look at Amazon or the NY Times best seller lists.   Her book was number one pushing Russert off the top.   Maybe that is what is really pissing the media off. I predict this book will sell over 400,000 copies.   Maybe 500,000 with all the free publicity you liberals are giving it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Alba
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 03:37 PM

Well if no-one has anything better to do you may see something interesting on the Jay Leno Show on Wednesday Night! Thoughts of Mad Max and the 'Thunderdome' come to mind:) Coulter meets ??

As I said way earlier.
The Conservatives can have her.
Get her on as many Prime time and high ratings shows as possible to repeat her slurs against the 9/11 Widows.
She is, without a doubt, a verbal WMD for the GOP.
Keep on spitting that venom AC..lol


J


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: GUEST,2
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 03:45 PM

"while Moore lies and makes things up and has been caught over and over."

Show us. Put some facts behind your hyperbole.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Wesley S
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 04:05 PM

Larry K - PLEASE don't try to convince us that Ann C selling a lot of books doesn't add up to anything other than - gee - selling a lot of books. Romance novels sell a lot of books. The bible sells a lot of books. Jacqueline Susann sold a lot of copies of "Valley of the Dolls"

You point was ??


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: robomatic
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 04:53 PM

I didn't want to spend a lot of time belaboring the obvious, i.e. the thread title says it all and prompts the viewer to respond: "what's your point?" "say something not self-evident" "only scrapes - no sucking?"

I guess I have more forgiveness in my heart for the poor female suffered an unhappy and tragic occurrence in her life - she walked through a malfunctioning transporter which had not yet been fixed from creating the 'good' and 'evil' Kirk, and this lovely well balanced auburn haired creature was beamed into opposite polarities whom we now call Ann Coulter and Maureen Dowd.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 05:09 PM

Yeah. Shit sells. The more controversial and extreme it is, the better it sells. Nothing new about that. So what?


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Donuel
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 05:10 PM

Female? Coulter is female by surgical decision only. Born with sexual ambiguity the operation was routine. sHe has alot to be angry about but taking it out on 9-11 widows will never help Coulter's trans gender hormonal disfunction.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 05:25 PM

She is a master of agitprop. In the 60's we had people like Abbie Hoffman enage in the same thing. By stirring up controversy and getting media attention, they draw new people into supporting their "cause", while galvanizing those who oppose.   Same shoes, different feet.

Ignore her, her days on top are limited.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Don Firth
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 05:30 PM

Aw, c'mon! You can trash Ann Coulter's appearance (which, in architectural terms, isn't that bad) and her sexuality (if anyone really knows about that, just how do you know? Might make an interesting account.), but the simple fact is that, for some reason, the determination of which I would leave to a qualified psychiatrist, she's full of hate, and she's directed that hatred at anything to the left of Genghis Khan. She's an absolutist, sees things only in terms of black and white, and in general, has the soul, but not the guts of a concentration camp director. So she runs her mouth.

Someplace along the line, her reptile brain ate her cerebrum and took over control, at which point she boarded the train to Bitch City and became the mayor.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 05:39 PM

I actually met her, briefly, several years ago before she became the media icon she has turned into. She is not hard on the eyes and I don't think it is fair to call her sexual ambiguous.

She has turned into this trash spewing mouthpiece and in the end she hurts herself and her cause.   She is today's Morton Downey, and she will be forgotten tomorrow.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 08:27 PM

Great post, Larry K!

Seems like many Democrats can't stand the taste of their own medicine... ever notice how 'conspiraacy theories' almost always are Democrats accusing Republicans?

Ann Coulter is certainly provocative.

And BTW... I'll bet she does write her own books...

But I do stand by my assertion that the duality is largely the work of our imagination... We're all just trying to make sense out of the world God has given us... We're all in the same big beautiful boat called planet Earth...

May your days be filled with a most inspiring peace!

ttr


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Ron Davies
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 09:24 PM

Thomas--

I am a Republican--but one who thinks--as a result, perhaps a rare breed.

Please try doing some research--for once-- before you favor us with yet another of your wonderfully imaginative conspiracy theories. Would you mind coming up with some actual evidence that Cheney and Rumsfeld etc. operate through Ann? I'll be waiting for it--though, based on your track record, not with much hope.

Ann has made a lot of money--for herself--by being outrageous--similar to Michael Moore on the Left--as has already been pointed out.

I'm aware that we can't require much from you--after all, your only claim is to be a "Rhymer". However, if you choose to participate in a political discussion, a little sense and logic might be in order. Conspiracy theories are often the last refuge--or even first resort--of somebody who can't be bothered to think.

If you "like her", that makes you even more of a fuzzy thinker than some of the other giant intellects we are honored to have here--on both the Right and the Left. Not that anybody would want to criticize your taste, you understand.

And, if you would be so good, please spare us your meaningless warmed-over 60's tripe about "hating the world only makes it worse." Are you really not capable of discerning the difference between hating the world and criticizing one harpy?

There is absolutely no excuse for her latest spewings about the 9-11 widows. If you think there is, you need to do a little soul-searching.

It's only too bad that a libel or slander suit against Ann might well be costly and unsuccessful.

And God bless you also.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Alba
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 09:26 PM

That's right Right.
Keep on Owning her.
Embrace her, she is all yours. Buy 4 copies of her Book.
Call/Email every Major Network and get her as many slots as possible.
Keep it going. Draw this out.
Say till November.
My wish for AC is that she is kept front and center like a Barbie Beacon for the Republican Party right up to the Elections.
If Ac's track record is anything to go by the more attention she gets the worse her mouth becomes. So Go GO GO AC

It shows how low the GOP and the Conservatives in this Country have fallen when they would grab at a poisoned straw to boost their moral.
Oh, How the arrogant Right have fallen when they look up to a shock jockess who targets the Families of 9/11 Victims.
Y'all must be so proud of "your" girl.


Now that the Coulter apologists have arrived I must bid this Thread farewell.
Don't forget to tune in and see Your GOP Pin up Girl trying to spew forth her acid rhetoric towards George Carlin on Jay Leno, Wednesday Night.
I won't be watching but no doubt will hear about the following day. LOL


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Ron Davies
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 09:32 PM

Larry K-

If you think "republicans (sic) have never worked an honest day in their lives" is on a par with what Coulter said--about 9-11 widows yet---that shows what grasp of reality you have.

I thought "conservatives" were supposed to shun moral relativism --(hope I don't have to explain what that is)---the Wall St Journal editorial writers are forever inveighing against it.

You embody it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Willie-O
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 09:35 PM

The so-called Larry K is a moron if he thinks Ann Coulter "tells the truth".

And yeah, most left-of-Republicans don't get called "Hitler", they get called "terrorists" and "terrorist lovers" by Republicans.

She's still a cheap vicious bitch with no redeeming qualities and I'm kinda surprised this thread is still going on...cause there is no useful conversation possible with the far-gone nutters who would support her. Logic has left the building...

W-O


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Ron Davies
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 09:38 PM

Ron O--

Please, o media maven, tell us what Abbie Hoffman said to denigrate the widows of soldiers.

I disagree with much, perhaps most, of what he said--but his targets were not widows.

But it's not surprising to hear your moral relativism continuing----Mr. "We are all Martin Gibsons".


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 09:46 PM

Perspective:

Has a librul commentator recently said that Nancy Reagan's shelf life is up and she should appear in Playboy? Has Maureen Dowd ever said that Ted Olson was probably about to divorce his harpy wife anyway? This is the level of commentary that the apolgists claim "happens on both sides". Bullshit.

Oh, and on the subject of Ann Coulter speaking truth (as opposed to the other side making shit up), have you seen the clip of Ms. Coulter arguing with a Canadian journalist and insisting that Canada had combat troops in Vietnam. Well... did they?


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Willie-O
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 09:55 PM

Nope, Canada didn't have troops in Vietnam of course, if that's what you're asking. Several hundred Canadians fought there as members of the US military though. If my ex-neighbour who was one is representative, a lot of them were pretty whacked--after all, they had to volunteer to join a foreign army to get involved in mayhem on the other side of the planet...but I digress.

W-O


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Little Hawk
Date: 13 Jun 06 - 11:26 PM

They must have thought they were saving the world from Communism... ;-)

(People will believe anything if they hear it from what they regard as "a reliable source"....millions of Germans considered Hitler to be a reliable source, so there you go.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 12:02 AM

Hey Ron Davis - pay closer attention to what people are saying and stop putting words in peoples mouths.

Did I ever say that Abbie Hoffman denigrated widows of soldiers? Did I ever accuse him of saying anything of the filth that Ann Coulter did? Absolutely not. You are a crude individual to accuse me of suggesting that. Shame on you.

What I did say, and I would bet Abbie would agree if he was still with us, is that both Ann Coulter and Abbie Hoffman practice the art of agitprop. They would stir up peoples emotions and use theater to push their views. They attracted media attention and with that they Of course they are polar opposites, but the tactics are the same.

Next time, please read carefully before you make accusations. If you wish to have a dialogue, argue with the truth of your convictions. Don't resort to making up crap.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 01:03 AM

Ron Davies... Hey no hard feelings... OK? I was just winding it up for you... In fact, I just made up a conspiracy theory on the spot (like so many across the wide world web)... Why? Well you seemed to be spoiling for a fight, and you still do. I was trying to illustrate a point, and I obviously missed the mark by a wide margin. My Bad. Read my other postings to this thread.

If I remember correctly, I had not said anything about Ann Coulter's most recent book at all... before my imaginary conspiracy theory surfaced. I've only read the media blurbs, and so I'm not qualified to critique it. I'll bet very few in this thread have actually read the book.

I am indeed deeply shocked by some of the recent coverage of her new book... but I'm not really excited by the prospect of running out and buying it. I will say, however, that there may be no excuse for some of the exerpts I've been hearing... Taken out of context as they are, they qualify quite nicely as 'cruel and unusual punishment'... and they do not exibit a 'sound moral character'.

So... do you think the current administration is going to distance themselves from her?

ttr


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Donuel
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 09:52 AM

friends of the regieme rarely have to be distanced.

sHe will eventually make a bid on the House of Reprehensitives.

So get used to saying Congressman Ann Coulter.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: 282RA
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 12:42 PM

>>ever notice how 'conspiraacy theories' almost always are Democrats accusing Republicans?<<

Frankly no. Perhaps you could explain.

>>Ann Coulter is certainly provocative.<<

Thanks, we'd almost forgotten that.

>>And BTW... I'll bet she does write her own books...<<

She's crazy to put her name on that drivel otherwise.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Wesley S
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 01:12 PM

Donuel - according to my morning paper Ann Coulter has already tried to run for congress. She offered to run as a Libertarian but they turned her down.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Ebbie
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 01:50 PM

I expect to watch Jay Leno tonight. Maybe the lovely Ann will be all sweetness and light and heart and insight tonight.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: robomatic
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 05:10 PM

Here's as good a place as any to link to a website which likes to bring up teensy weensy issues about Bill O'Reilly:

sweetjesusihatebilloreilly.com


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Ron Davies
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 09:41 PM

Ron O--


"Same shoes, different feet". Sure sounds like moral relativism to me--and you have a record of that.

Perhaps I'm wrong--- in this particular case. If so, my apologies.   But you do have a history of it. You may want to be aware.

We might possibly not really need your instruction in how agitprop works. We might already know.

You were doing fine when you clearly opposed Ann--earlier in the thread. But please don't tell Mudcatters to ignore her--we're not about to buy her pathetic screeds--and we're just calling attention to her despicable conduct regarding the widows.   Somehow what we say on Mudcat is not likely to resonate elsewhere--life's just so terribly unfair. But we've managed to come to terms with our, to say the least, limited, clout. However, telling Mudcatters not to vent is not good tactics--you may get a response you consider an overreaction--in fact you recently did.

Best we end our dispute right here.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Ron Davies
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 09:43 PM

Thomas--

Interesting to know you don't mean a thing you say. I'll remember that for future reference.


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 10:15 PM

Oh yeah...! You and who else, Rrroooonnnn! ;^)


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 14 Jun 06 - 11:21 PM

"However, telling Mudcatters not to vent is not good tactics--you may get a response you consider an overreaction--in fact you recently did."

Ron Davies - I am not sure what you are reading into my posts. Actually I did not tell anyone not to vent. When I say to "ignore her", I am speaking in terms of the public not reading her columns, buying her books, or watching her guest appearances on TV. As long as she is "selling", she will have a forum. When she becomes as relevant as Morton Downey, she will disappear.   

I don't advocate censorship or blacklisting, but I do feel that boycotting is another story. People speak with their vote and their pocketbook (in certain parts of the country that is the same thing.)

As to moral relativism, I never was big on philosphy or labels. I could not stand Ayn Rand because I do not believe in absolutes. I reserve the right to look for reason.

I enjoy healthy debate, and as long as we stay on subject and not get personal I don't consider ourselves to be having a "dispute".


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Subject: RE: BS: Ann Coulter scrapes bottom
From: kendall
Date: 15 Jun 06 - 05:41 AM

Just another successful mental case who spews the kind of low life rubbish that non thinkers like.


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