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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: bobad
Date: 19 May 06 - 11:23 AM

Slightly slighting is slightly unslightly.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: bobad
Date: 19 May 06 - 12:12 PM

that should read unsightly - twisted my own tongue.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: GUEST,Hans Christian Anderson
Date: 19 May 06 - 12:18 PM

Sir Paul and the cripple girl:

ahhhh.. kind hearted saintly old Sir Paul befriends a poor little cripple girl
then sympathetically offers his hand in marriage and gives her half of all his fortune.

and in the fullness of time , a little baby arrives to bless their magic union..

But, unbeknownst to all, she is a black hearted witch
who tricks him

and chops the baby into little pieces and boils it up into broth
and feeds it to the unsuspecting children from Sir Pauls
first marriage to Princess Linda..

The vile broth poisons all who eat it..

then the evil cripple girl chops off a leg from the eldest child
and casts a spell to make that leg her own,
so she is now no longer crippled
and can run away with all the gold.

Sir Paul is broken hearted and throws himself down a dark deep well.

The End.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: GUEST,song collector
Date: 19 May 06 - 12:20 PM

didn't Steeleye Span do a song about that story

"Sir Paul and the runaway cripple girl"


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: Geordie-Peorgie
Date: 19 May 06 - 03:02 PM

Sir paul says that Heather didn't marry him foreez money!

She's certainly divorcing him forrit!

On the news today it sez she is "devastated and hasn't eaten for two weeks (I wish I had her will power) and once everything is settled she 'still wants to be known as "Lady McCartney"'"'".....PLEASE!

Aah think it aal started gannin doon hill when he bought her that new false leg for Christmas - She thought it wez her main prezzie but it wez just a stockin' filler !

Aah also heard that he bought her a plane... but she uses Immac on the other leg!!

Gerrup there Moreton!


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: Peter T.
Date: 19 May 06 - 03:12 PM

Boy, this is a bunch of cynics. The guy deliberately refuses to have a pre-nup agreement because he loves the woman, and doesn't want money getting involved, and she spends her time working for the good of humankind, and their marriage doesn't work out. It is obvious the two of them were in love, you only had to watch them together; but they also obviously were high powered people with strong opinions and fought.

They both seem to have acted well. I would have thought the whole thing would make one a little sad that these things don't work out.

What do we get? Disabled jokes.

yours,

Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: GUEST
Date: 19 May 06 - 03:13 PM

Dave you surprise me. If you can't see anyone here ridiculing her disability you must be reading a different thread.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: Desdemona
Date: 19 May 06 - 03:51 PM

My goodness, what a lot of excellent follow-ups to my harmless & not even especially clever one-liner...!

But seriously , no-one here has a close, personal relationship with Sir Paul or his gold-digging, publicity-seeking child bride (do they??), and celebrity is always fair game for a bit of fun; I suppose it's the flip-side of making $1.5 billion by choosing to live your life in front of the world.

Obviously, I don't wish either of these COMPLETE STRANGERS ill (NB that they are, in fact, COMPLETE STRANGERS to me, hence my lack of deep, personal feelings about them!), I just think it would be pretty disingenuous to pretend that:

A. It never occurred to anyone that his vast, enormous fortune (to say nothing of the fame, which "Lady" McCartney had assiduously and cravenly pursued ever since her admittedly unfortunate accident) *might* have been a factor in their marriage.

B. The fact that he hooked up with her within a year of the death of his beloved wife of nearly 30 years doesn't have at least a whiff of "terribly depressed older man on the rebound being taken advantage of by attentive, attractive much younger female" about it.

C. This ridiculous claim that "the media" are to blame for their break-up could be taken seriously! I must respectfully point out that (present company excepted, apparently), particularly as compared to the circumstances of his marriage to Linda in 1969, no-one gives a toss about Paul Mccartney or anything he does anymore, and I feel pretty certain they could have had all the (largely forgotten by pop culture) privacy they wanted if they'd have just stopped shoving their faces in front of cameras.

D. That there's any reason to pity poor Heather, except for the fact that her 15 minutes are about to be UP! She lost me way back when in some interview where she claimed she had "never even heard any of the Beatles music" (thereby deflating accusations of gold-digging, apparently)...so are we to assume she grew up in outer space?!

Limping tediously away...

~D


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 19 May 06 - 03:56 PM

You seem to know lots about these complete strangers. I never heard them speak ill of you, Desdemona.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: Desdemona
Date: 19 May 06 - 04:17 PM

Oh, I'm an old and unrepentant Beatles fan from childhood...at heart, I'm probably just wishing Old Paul had chosen *me*, eh what (after, all, I'm young enough to be his daughter, too!)?

;~)

D


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: GUEST
Date: 19 May 06 - 04:19 PM

Whoop dee doo


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 19 May 06 - 04:23 PM

Don't give up, D ... he's free now ;o)


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: GUEST,Desdemona
Date: 19 May 06 - 07:00 PM

Oh, yeah, and I've got 3 sons who'll be needing a college education...!

~D


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: Ebbie
Date: 19 May 06 - 08:26 PM

"no-one here has a close, personal relationship with Sir Paul or his gold-digging, publicity-seeking child bride (do they??)" Desdemona

Reminds me of telling a joke, racist, sexist, or whatever, after asking the group, No one here is Jewish, Catholic, over 50, whatever, right?

My impulse always is to say, Yes!


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: Ron Davies
Date: 20 May 06 - 12:22 AM

Sounds like Paul isn't concerned after all about "will you still need me, will you still feed me?" He's 63 now. Of course I suppose he might also not be too worried about "We shall scrimp and save".


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: GUEST
Date: 20 May 06 - 08:44 AM

Heather is someones daughter. Anyone here got a disabled kid we can laugh at?

She is also someones mother. Anyone here got a disabled mother we can have a good old bitch about?

She is also someones sister, aunt, friend, niece, cousin etc.

All of you must have blameless lives.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 May 06 - 08:57 AM

I bet many of the PC posters anonymous or otherwise laugh at TV programmes like The Office and Fawlry Towers. The basic premise of these programmes is to mock and laugh at obsessive compulsives, and socially inadequate people.
Were your next door neighbour to behave like Basil Fawlty, Alan Partridge, or some other OTT caricature would you laugh at them?
Surely this would be mockery, so why not complain about these TV caricatures on the grounds that they portray inadequate personalities, and we shouldn't laugh at them?
Most people have their foibles, and are mocked for them, even in many cases the sufferer mocks themselves, should we stop them laughing at themselves?
Yes many things are PC nowadays and we no longer laugh at them thankfully, but there is no reason apart from smug self righteousness for denying human nature on the grounds of political correctness.
Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: GUEST
Date: 20 May 06 - 12:39 PM

John Cleese and Ricky Gervais are comedians/actors who portray comic characters. I find your comparison between laughing at them and laughing at a disabled woman who lost a leg in a road accident very poor.

But then again big sweaty fat people who gorge themselves stupid are slightly amusing. Any of the above posters agree?


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 May 06 - 01:00 PM

Wrong, they portray inadequate people and invite us to join them in their mockery by laughing at them.
All humour has a cruel streak, and nothing will change that.
I find your last sentence to be totally at odds with your avowed political correctness.
Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: GUEST
Date: 20 May 06 - 01:54 PM

Then you can add irony to the list of things you don't understand.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 May 06 - 02:06 PM

The use of words to express something different from and often opposite to their literal meaning.
?

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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: Desdemona
Date: 20 May 06 - 02:29 PM

Yes, how come it's suddenly okay to make fun of "big, sweaty fat people"?

I think the whole issue of humour and what "makes" something funny is enormously fascinating, and just attended a really interesting session at a (medieval, but the topic transcends chronological periods, really) conference on this very subject. The usual argument is that there are several "types" of joke/humour:

~ the sort in which there's an assumption of superiority on the part of the hearer/teller; ie, we're laughing "at" someone or something

~ the sort in which the humour is based on incongruity: a pun that makes a word mean something other than what's usual, an unexpected occurrence, etc. This is a "victimless" humour, even a baby laughing at a game of peek-a-boo can fall into this category...Mummy's ther, now she's not there, now she's back...

~ and then there's just pure pleasure: the laughter that happens watching kittens play, or flying a kite, just having fun, etc.

In a way, I think it's just the (occasional, as I *do* revere language & its possibilities!) inadequacy of words that allows us to use the same term to describe these very diffrenet things...the fact that the end result of each is often laughter is in many ways the only thing they have in common.

But it can't be denied that a good laugh is one of the very best things about the human experience, although we may have a wide variety of ways of finding one.

Cheers,

~D


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: Peter K (Fionn)
Date: 20 May 06 - 03:40 PM

McCartney and Mills have been subjected to a torrent of bitching in the Brit press. If certain mudcatters need to add to that, I suppose they have every entitlement. For most of my seven years here, Mudcat was an interesting forum, so I shouldn't complain. But I do find it hard to stomach Desdemona and Giok rebranding their bitchiness as the high watermark of British humour.

Perhaps they haven't noticed, but money is not the biggest thing in McCartney's life. He sent his kids to state schools and he seems perfectly happy for Heather to have a couple of hundred million. What a peculiar attitude, the cash-obsessed must think.

Bruce Baillie:

If you think there's any merit in disabled people wanting to be treated as human beings, try to move on from the "we" and "them" mindset, in which "we" equals normal people like you, and "them" equals those who fail your normality test.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 21 May 06 - 10:34 AM

Well Peter K you're not amused, no surprise there then! I've hardly ever seen a post from you that was not criticising something or someone.
Why as a matter of interest do you single out myself and Desdemona for your opprobrium, others have posted on this thread?

Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: GUEST
Date: 21 May 06 - 10:38 AM

MacKenzie isn't a Brit and he has no sense of humor. He's a mean spirited, bullying Scot.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: Big Mick
Date: 21 May 06 - 10:47 AM

As opposed to a gentle spirit like you who makes comments about fat, sweaty people? Funny shit, especially given your raving about someone hijacking your thread a few days ago. Talk about irony.

hahahahahha,

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 21 May 06 - 11:55 AM

Obviously I have upset our little cowardly guest, I wish I knew what it was I did to upset it. So I could do it all over again.
Giok ☺ ☻ ☺


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: GUEST
Date: 21 May 06 - 12:02 PM

The fat sweaty people comment was meant to hit a nerve. And it obviously did.

It shows that some of you think ridiculing the disabled is fair game. But strike a bit closer to home and the ridicule isn't quite so funny?

As usual the connection flew over your heads.

And as usual big mick got it wrong again. I have no idea what he is on about. But hey that's easy to loive with.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: Big Mick
Date: 21 May 06 - 12:11 PM

No, I got it exactly right. I understood the comment when you made it. I also do not find jokes ridiculing disabled folks funny in the least. But when you made the comment about irony, if just had to laugh out loud. You are the same arrogant hypocrite you have always been. But thanks for the good laugh.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 21 May 06 - 12:14 PM

I don't know any fat sweaty people mate.
But for someone who criticises the sense of humour of all those who have posted on here, on the grounds of bad taste, you sure are inconsistent.
Or can you make comments about other people's appearance but we can't?
G.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: Big Mick
Date: 21 May 06 - 12:20 PM

Giok, I stayed out of it because I didn't find it funny. That is until the arrogant one, on one hand criticized and on the other made her comment. And when I mixed it up with a comment made the other day about hijacking her thread, when s/he has done it consistently for a number of years...... well I just couldn't resist.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: GUEST
Date: 21 May 06 - 12:42 PM

Both of your above posting prove that you REALLY don't get it.

And mick if the cat is missing and you feel like lashing out, save it. As usual your facts are all in your mind and bear no relation to the truth.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 21 May 06 - 12:47 PM

What I really don't get Guest is what you get out of sniping anonymously at people, all it does is make you look like a sad coward who hasn't the guts to post under your own name.
I agree they should make the BS members only, then you will have to put up or shut up!
G.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: freda underhill
Date: 21 May 06 - 12:54 PM


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 21 May 06 - 12:57 PM

Nice one there Freda, you German has improved during your stay in Austria!
G.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: GUEST
Date: 21 May 06 - 01:05 PM

Giok your taste in funnies I find distasteful. And I posted such. You weren't the only sap making these comments, but of course as can be expected you were the one to start beating your chest. Not only to me but also to the other posters who found this thread in bad taste.

If that is your idea of sniping live with it. Your 'put up or shut up' comment is laughable. We don't all agree with you. Carry on insulting those of us who don't agree with you. It speaks volumes.

I will bow out now as this thread isn't about you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 21 May 06 - 01:05 PM

Let the poor Guest have his or her fun guys. They have enough to put up with with the disabilty they have. If it helps improve their life just smile, pat them on the head and go on your own way like you would with any other spoilt child.

Cheers

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 21 May 06 - 01:12 PM

Goodbye then Guest, I do know the thread isn't about me, but you personalised your critique.
I'm sorry if you don't like my style, but I will always stand up for myself and will not back down in the face of anonymous sniping. As I disagree with many people, I also expect them to disagree with me, that's life.
You can't please all of the people all of the time, and anybody would be silly to try.
Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: freda underhill
Date: 21 May 06 - 02:10 PM

that was an accidental post, Giok, not a 'no comment'

my German has expanded to include - kaput!


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: Anonny Mouse
Date: 21 May 06 - 02:30 PM

Pre-nup or not, I'm quite sure Sir Paul has never gotton over the love of his life, Linda. I'm sure this is no novel idea. This gal kinda *looked* a bit like Linda. You don't go through as many years as they had, and the cancer, and death, and come out on the other end unscarred. Wouldn'tve mattered WHO it was he'd marry--I'd have give the relationship 3, mebyee 4 years. My heart kinda goes out to them both--I suspect it was "cursed" from the beginning. My 2 cents on this one--probably up for debate, but I'd bet I'm 90% on. :>)


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 21 May 06 - 02:55 PM

I agree, I think they would have been very lucky indeed if it worked out. Re marriage is the triumph of optimism over experience in any case.
G.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: GUEST,PMS
Date: 21 May 06 - 06:59 PM

Why is any of it anyone's business? Gossip, gossip, gossip. Everyone take a deep breath and hold it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: GUEST,PMS
Date: 21 May 06 - 07:08 PM

Let it out, and lets decide who we can gossip about and try to destroy. Won't that be fun?


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 22 May 06 - 02:13 AM

Gossip destroys people? Wow! And I always thought it was what celebrities thrive on. I wish our super sensitive guest would give us more of this vital information. The whole world would be a better place.

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: GUEST,Herbie
Date: 22 May 06 - 04:44 AM

So Guest thinks tha a Scot isn't a Brit? His ignorance goes up a slot.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: GUEST,MikeNNYC
Date: 22 May 06 - 05:47 PM

Hey weelittledrummer
Everyone else on here comes across with humor but you...just downright mean and like a man hating bitter person
Good Luck to anyone around you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 31 May 06 - 06:48 AM

Any more news?


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: Desdemona
Date: 31 May 06 - 05:46 PM

O, HOW YOU TEMPT ME...

I admit to being audibly amused at a headline on one of those tabloids in the supermarket check-out; 'struth, I'm almost sorry I sisn't buy it:

'Paul McCartney Bullied By One-Legged Wife'

BWAH!

~D


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: dianavan
Date: 31 May 06 - 10:24 PM

I'm certainly not going to make fun of a person with one leg but...

I knew it was the end when I saw how she had persuaded Paul to wiggle around on the ice. I doubt if Canada and the seal pups were Paul's idea - he was just trying to please his bride.

I think you can only go so far trying to please another. That stunt must have been pretty humiliating, especially when Paul revealed that he didn't even know what province he was in.

At his age, he deserves to live with his dignity intact. Why prostate yourself for a cause you know nothing about.

If Heather wants to pursue the landmines problem, good on her.

She should leave the seals alone until she knows more about it and stop dragging others into unknown territory.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looks like Paul McCartney...
From: GUEST
Date: 31 May 06 - 11:22 PM

'Why prostate yourself for a cause you know nothing about.' Freud, where are you?

Maybe she could throw the seals on the landmines.


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