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GUEST 02 May 06 - 02:33 PM
Anglogeezer 02 May 06 - 02:47 PM
Geoff the Duck 02 May 06 - 03:05 PM
Fliss 02 May 06 - 07:01 PM
GUEST,jim 02 May 06 - 07:12 PM
EBarnacle 02 May 06 - 07:33 PM
Alan Day 03 May 06 - 03:06 AM
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Alan Day 03 May 06 - 06:04 AM
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Subject: Learning to play Concertina
From: GUEST
Date: 02 May 06 - 02:33 PM

My wife has bought me a Concertina which I would like to learn to play, however I cannot read music and seem to have a mental block about it, although I do play Guitar, Banjo and Mandolin by ear. Is there any info out there about how I can start to learni to play by ear, chord formations etc etc
Thanks in anticipation


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Subject: RE: Learning to play Concertina
From: Anglogeezer
Date: 02 May 06 - 02:47 PM

Hi, lots of resources out there, a good place to start is
www.concertina.net
have a rummage around there - lots of information and advice.
in particular for you
www.concertina.net/learning.html
If you can, try to link up with other concertina players.
regards
Jake


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Subject: RE: Learning to play Concertina
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 02 May 06 - 03:05 PM

Where are you located? It may be that somebody is in your area.
Is it an English, an Anglo or some other fingering system?
The type of music you want to play may also make a diference.
Just some general questions which may get you more useful answers.
Quack!
GtD.


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Subject: RE: Learning to play Concertina
From: Fliss
Date: 02 May 06 - 07:01 PM

Hi
I play English concertina. You tend to start with the tune rather than cords.

My laptop has crashed and im using my partners one, but I do have the fingering for cords saved as jpg.

I play Irish music and although I do read music a bit I prefer to learn by ear, then look at the dots for the twiddly bits.

If you can play tunes on other instruments you should be able to pick them out on the concertina.

Remember that the bellows make the instrument breathe, so dont take them out to their full extent or you will run out of breath.

Ive played concertina since I was 9, but only taken it up again properly over the last 5 years. The old chap that taught me originally did a good job, but took me on to harder tunes too fast instead of going laterally.

As Geoff says .. where are you? If you are in the UK and are anywhere near Telford we have a good practice session on a Sunday morning for a range of instruments, all playing irish music.

cheers
fliss


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Subject: RE: Learning to play Concertina
From: GUEST,jim
Date: 02 May 06 - 07:12 PM

I'm also an English player in Southern Ontario. The English concertina has the same note on the push and pull, and is usually chromatic(You can play it in any key.) Since the most common English concertinas have the same range as a fiddle. fiddle tune books are great sources of stuff to learn. I'm afraid I'd be of no use teaching the Anglo, though there seems to be more instrruction manuals and tapes for Anglo.


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Subject: RE: Learning to play Concertina
From: EBarnacle
Date: 02 May 06 - 07:33 PM

One nice feature of the English, if your fingers are large enough, is the ability to play [some] chords with one finger. This is made easier because all of the lines from a music stave are on one side and all of the spaces are on the other side.
The simplest way to begin is to just do scales for a couple of days. Then, once you have learned a scale or two, your fingers should be used to the movement and the relationships between the notes. The alternating zig-zag feels natural very quickly.
As one who plays several instruments, you should be able to either hear the key that the people you are playing with are in or see it on the necks of their instruments. The sharps and flats will fall into place.


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Subject: RE: Learning to play Concertina
From: Alan Day
Date: 03 May 06 - 03:06 AM

If it is an Anglo and you are interested in playing English style music rather than Irish, if you contact me I will arrange to send you a free tutor CD.
I can also recommend Concertina.net where many of your questions will be answered by members,you can also click onto my name on that site and from that you will get a link to my website where you can download some free music and written music.
Al


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Subject: RE: Learning to play Concertina
From: GUEST
Date: 03 May 06 - 03:59 AM

Thanks to all for your help, I'm based in Northern England, M62 corridor is easily accessible. Alan, that is a very kind offer, I'll PM you my address tonight


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Subject: RE: Learning to play Concertina
From: Alan Day
Date: 03 May 06 - 06:04 AM

Anglo players in particular may be interested in a forthcoming event at the Warwick Folk Festival 22nd July where there will be Anglo Concertina workshops by Brian Peters (Advanced),Myself (Absolute beginners),Jody Kruskal(USA) Contra Dance Workshop.
There will also be a concert in the evening featuring
John Kirkpatrick,Brian Peters,Chris Sherburn,Jody Kruskal and me doing a warm up.
This is all being finalised at the moment, but please make a note in your diary for this weekend.
Al


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Subject: RE: Learning to play Concertina
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 03 May 06 - 09:11 AM

I live a mile from the M62! I took up English concertina about 18 months ago. I play by ear mostly but can and do look at dts if trying something new but at present do not do chords.
If you can get to the Musicroom in Cleckheaton a chat with Gill Noppen Spacie might point you to someone who may help.


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Subject: RE: Learning to play Concertina
From: andrewq
Date: 03 May 06 - 10:01 AM

If you are in North West England then Jubilee Concertinas have a monthly concertina workshop, sometimes with guest tutors, for players of all levels in Chorley, Lancs. There are details towards the bottom of this page of the Folk Northwest site:

http://www.folknorthwest.co.uk/off_the_beaten_track.htm


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Subject: RE: Learning to play Concertina
From: Alan Day
Date: 04 May 06 - 05:54 PM

Sorry for the delay Chris it has taken me a week to get back on this site.
I just cannot understand how these threads disappear,how do other people get on when we cannot?
Al


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Subject: RE: Learning to play Concertina
From: GUEST,piedpiper
Date: 09 May 06 - 03:50 PM

check this URL ~ http://www.angloconcertinist.com/


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Subject: RE: Learning to play Concertina
From: GUEST,Scooby
Date: 09 May 06 - 05:02 PM

The very best English Concertina player around is Rob Harbron - Ex Dr Faustus and now of the English Acoustic Collective. He has got to be the most sensitive player and accompaniest ever - a true virtuoso. he has given workshops at festivals for all standards and believe me he is an excellent tutor especially for beginners. I gather that he is due to be working at Sidmouth this year so hopefully he will be delivering workshops as well.


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Subject: RE: Learning to play Concertina
From: GUEST,Scooby Doo
Date: 09 May 06 - 05:10 PM

What are you doing using my mudcat NAME!!!!!!!
Scooby


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Subject: RE: Learning to play Concertina
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 09 May 06 - 11:30 PM

If it is a "push-me, pull-me" (like the Lamma in Dr Doolittle) it is a much more difficult instrument....and you need to think a HARMONICA (mouth organ/harp)the tone changes on inhale and exhale.

I was ready to purchase one until I discovered is peculiar architecture and decided to stay with multiple keyboards and wind pieces.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: Learning to play Concertina
From: pavane
Date: 10 May 06 - 02:19 AM

Actually, the push-pull is quite easy to learn. I have taught kids to play a simple tune in minutes. It also gives a kind of built-in rhythm
which makes it good for dance music.

My program HARMONY does anglo concertina tablature (I think it may be the only program which DOES), and you can import tunes from abc files.

It also shows you alternative ways of playing notes and runs. Because some notes are available on both push and pull buttons, you can sometimes play tunes without much need to change direction.

Download it from www.greenhedges.com


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Subject: RE: Learning to play Concertina
From: Alan Day
Date: 10 May 06 - 03:54 AM

I agree with you Skooby of the ability of Robert Harbron.
He will be included in the "English International" compilation which hopefully will be released in about November.
We will have many artists from around the World and it will include some wonderful archive material of most of the top past players.
I will post full details of this project and it's contents nearer to launch date.
Al


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Subject: RE: Learning to play Concertina
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 10 May 06 - 06:04 AM

Stop using my Mudcat name.
Scooby


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Subject: RE: Learning to play Concertina
From: Fliss
Date: 10 May 06 - 08:49 AM

No 2 son has mended my laptop so Im online again.

Nice to have contact from Jack in NZ. Ive managed to find the English Chord jpgs and email them.

Ive had a number of lessons from Frances Wilkins of the duo Solan. She is the same age as my daughter, and is an ace English player.

fliss


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Subject: RE: Learning to play Concertina
From: GUEST,Ken
Date: 10 May 06 - 09:11 AM

I'm thinking about getting an anglo C/G, but I've never played concertina. [I can play guitar and piano]. Is it possible to play melody and chords for most folk tunes at the same time, or do you have to settle for one or the other?


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Subject: RE: Learning to play Concertina
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 10 May 06 - 09:42 AM

Yes, yes, and yes!
:-)

there's LOTS of relevant threads on those topics here - you may have to search a little though.


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Subject: RE: Learning to play Concertina
From: pavane
Date: 10 May 06 - 10:16 AM

Yes - listen to 'The art of William Kimber' for example. And John Kirkpatrick.


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Subject: RE: Learning to play Concertina
From: Tootler
Date: 10 May 06 - 10:39 AM

But make sure you get a 30 button anglo or you are pretty much limited to just those two keys.


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Subject: RE: Learning to play Concertina
From: GUEST,Uncle Jaque in Maine
Date: 10 May 06 - 04:56 PM

My Domestic Manager got me a little Anglo (a Bastari I think - not marked as such but a pretty generic one) for Christmas a couple of years ago.

I started by running a few scales from the book to get the feel of it, then started pulling out tunes by ear - Sea Chantys and Irish, mostly.
It was a lot of fun sitting out on the porch with a beer on the rail, noodling around with the squeezebox while the burgers sizzled on the BBQ.

Alas; at a Civil War Reenacting Recruiting function a couple of months ago where I was doing music of the period on a number of instruments, it vanished; apparantly some rascal nipped the little booger!

I miss it, too! - will probably never get another though.


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