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In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'

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Subject: BS: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 03:50 PM

I was surprised to discover on the "worst song" thread that the song "Afternoon Delight" usually scores high on worst song lists.

That made me wonder...is it really that bad? I didn't think so, from what I remembered, so I have looked it up and listened to it carefully, and with a critical ear.

I can now say simply to all those people who think it's one of the worst songs ever...Ha! You must be joking. You must have fallen and busted your ear or something. Or maybe you are just jumping on the bandwagon with other people who have a tin ear...?

Musically it is downright superb. Terrific tune, great chord changes and neat rythmic stuff happening, good instrumentation, great harmonizing vocals...hell, this song is an almost perfect popular songs in the musical sense. It could hardly be better.

As for the lyrics, they are perfectly all right. Nothing to complain about there. What is wrong with some people in the glorious days of their youthful 20's writing a song about the joys of making love in the afternoon? And it's done tastefully too...a very upbeat, enthusiastic, friendly song.

It's not corny. It isn't badly written. It isn't poorly performed. There is frickin' NOTHING wrong with the song "Afternoon Delight" except that you probably heard it on the radio too many times between 1976 and whenever...and you got sick of it merely because of repetition. Or you heard someone else say "it sucks" and jumped on the bandwagon.

When there are so many abysmal, wretchedly badly written songs out there...stuff like "Billy, Don't Be A Hero", for god's sake, or "My Baby Does The Hanky-Panky", there is no reason on earth to go after a very well written and played song like this one just because you figure you heard it once too often.

So there ya go. That song won awards and got a lot of airplay. You know why? Cos it's damn good, that's why. Most people only wish they could write an arrangement that good.


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Subject: RE: BS: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 03:50 PM

Sorry. Should be in the Music section. Please move it there, clones.


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Subject: RE: BS: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 03:55 PM

And, yes, I am serious. That is a good song, better than most, ought to be on the list of 20 or so neatest pop music arrangements of all time.


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Subject: RE: BS: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Morticia
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 03:57 PM

Actually, I agree with you.


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Subject: RE: BS: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 04:28 PM

Do you rate it above or below "Midnight at the Oasis" and "Brand New Key" in your reckoning? :)

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Teresa
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 04:33 PM

At least it doesn't attempt to contain commentary from a chair, like some songs I know.

I always liked it. But then, I was 12 when it came out, and understood the harmony better than the lyrics ...

and being a science-fiction fan, my kid-brain loved the "sky rockets in flight" part.

Teresa


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Subject: RE: BS: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 04:35 PM

I looked at that 'worst song' thread and decided it could only be populated by subjective contributions, so I agree (I think). Personally, Afternoon Delight makes me chuck*, but 30 million housewives can't be wrong.

* I am, however, a big fan of afternoon delight ...


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Subject: RE: BS: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Once Famous
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 04:37 PM

by far, it is not the worst song. It is a better song than Honey.


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: The Shambles
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 04:38 PM

This is BS.


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: jacqui.c
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 04:40 PM

For UK Mudcatters - this one is a lot better than 'Grandad' or 'Shuduppa Your Face'.

I always liked the song, couldn't understand why it got such bad press.


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 04:40 PM

Well, ya know, it makes me feel good. It's not a masterpiece, but it's an enjoyable song to listen to - and it brings back memories of a good time in my life.
"Yummy, Yummy, Yummy" brings back memories, too - but I still can't forgive that song for being as stupid as it is.
(as Chief of the Mudcat Editing Team," can I get in trouble for calling a song "stupid"?
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: M.Ted
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 04:50 PM

Well, to be honest, LH, it is a bit "cutesy", and they threw everything into the arrangement but the kitchen sink--but it is fun, which is more than I can say for some.   "Midnight at the Oasis" is a great song, SRS-not your typical three chorder--As, as to "Honey", Martin, it is in a class of its own--Bobby Goldsboro really had a gift--


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Peace
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 04:51 PM

Call it awful instead. However, if y'all want the winner in the 'why did it ever get on the radio' category, here it is:

That Monday morning choo-choo
Is leaving with my shoo shoo
Taking all my everything away


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 05:40 PM

Damn, that sounds familiar, Peace. What's th ename of that song?
-joe-


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Subject: Lyr/Chords Add: MIDNIGHT AT THE OASIS
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 06:35 PM

This is not BS, Shambles, this is music commentary. I genuinely think "Afternoon Delight" is a very well written and performed song, and I launched it as a BS thread orginally through sheer force of habit...accidentally in other words.

Stilly - I think "Midnight At the Oasis" is also a darned good song. Super good, in fact. It sounds great, and it's a cool arrangement. Maria Muldaur sings it great. She deserved to get a hit with that song.

   Midnight At The Oasis
Words & Music by David Nichtern
Recorded by Maria Muldaur, 1974


DM7                G7 C7/9 Am7
Midnight at the o - a - sis --

DM7                G7 C7/9 Bb9
Send your camel to bed

DM7                  G7 C7/9
Shadows paintin' our fa -ces,

F7    Bb9    Em7    G/B      A7
Tra - ces of romance in our heads.


DM7                G7 C7/9 Am7
Heaven's holdin' a half-moon

DM7             G7 C7/9 Bb9
Shinin' just for us;

DM7                  G7 C7/9   F7   Bb9
Let's slip off to a sand dune, real soon

    Em7       G/B    A7
And kick up a little dust.



Refrain:


Cm7 F7   G#7          Gm7
Come on, Cactus is our friend;

Cm7         F7         G#7    Gm7
He'll point us out the way.

Cm7 F7   G#7             Gm7
Come on, till the evenin' ends,

C7/9    Bb9      DM7
Till the evenin' ends.


DM7               G7   C7/9 Am7
You don't have to an - swer --

DM7                G7 C7/9 Bb9
There's no need to speak

DM7                G7   C7/9 F7    Bb9
I'll be your belly dan - cer, pran - cer,

    Em7    G/B    A7
And you can be my sheik.



(Instrumental Interlude - 1 Verse & 1 Refrain)


DM7                   G7 C7/9 Am7
I know your Daddy's a sul -tan,

DM7    G7    C7/9 Bb9
A nomad known to all,

    DM7             G7 C7/9          F7   Bb9
With fifty girls to attend him, they all send him,

    Em7      G/B      A7
Jump at his beck and call.


    DM7               G7    C7/9 Am7
But you won't need no harem, honey,

    DM7   G7    C7/9 Bb9
When I am by your side;

   DM7                G7 C7/9 F7 Bb9
And you won't need no cam - el, no no,

       Em7      G/B    A7
When I take you for a ride.



Repeat Refrain:



DM7                G7 C7/9 Am7
Midnight at the o - a - sis --

DM7       G7       C7/9   Bb9
Send your camel to bed;

    DM7                  G7 C7/9
Got shadows paintin' our fa - ces,

    F7   Bb9    Em7    G/B      A7
And tra - ces of romance in our heads.


There are some neat lines in there. Why would anyone possibly object to a flirtatious song with a few double entendres in it and a great tune? Is there some law against musical flirtation that uses slightly offbeat metaphors in the lyrics? Not for me there isn't.

Regarding both "Midnight at..." and "Afternoon Delight", I think it is people's sheer lack of imagination and habitual literal-mindedness that prejudices them against the lyrics in those 2 songs. They're both a bit whimsical, a bit flirty, and they're fun...which is all they were meant to be.

Hey, I like "Gates of Eden". I like "It's All Right, Ma". I like "Acadian Driftwood". I love serious songs on weighty themes. But there is a place for light-hearted flirtation too, and these 2 songs have got it right.

Now, "Brand New Key"...you know, there was a time when that song was a lotta fun too. Again, what is Melanie doing in the song? She's being a bit flirtatious, and using a slightly offbeat metaphor to do it. So? Same point as the above 2. I don't rate it as high as Midnight or Afternoon, musically speaking, but it's fine as far as it goes. I'd call it a likeable song. I give it a "6". I give Midnight a "10", and Afternoon a "9 1/2"....I took off the "1/2" point for the "cutsey" aspect, as pointed out by M. Ted.

You want "awful"? You want "makes me want to rip out jugular veins with my teeth"? Listen to Sheena Easton singing "Morning Train". That has no clever metaphors in it at all.   It's just plain relentless, dimwittedly literal, and totally obnoxious...both in the musical and the lyrical sense.


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Peace
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 06:40 PM

Joe,

I went looking for the lyrics and couldn't find them. It was done decades ago by The Stampeders, a group out of Winnipeg. I think the title of it was "Monday Morning Choo Choo". Considering that they did so much good stuff, it blew me away that that song would make the charts. It was in the top twenty for weeks. Maybe months. It is sad (so as to avoid 'stupid', lol).


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Peace
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 06:49 PM

Joe,

I just went to refresh what's left of my memory.

They also did Ramona; Sweet City Woman; Oh My Lady; Carry Me (which I think is their best). They were a rock group, but softer than hard if ya know what I mean. I think also that they did Squeeze Box, but I'm not sure on that. BUT, MMCC??? Good Lord!


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Peace
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 06:57 PM

Don't mean to sidetrack this discussion, sorry LH: Link to the bio of the Stampeders. BIO here. (And as usual, I got some stuff wrong.)


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: gnu
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 08:07 PM

Winnepeg... hmmm... did Winnepeg ever produce any good musicians besides the Stampeders?

Cumming on now!


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: M.Ted
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 08:14 PM

The chords that I had are slightly different, LH, and in a different key--Chord Request: Midnight at the Oasis David Nichtern's original version was in a different key than Maria's version--and I remember hearing her do it live before the record came out, without Amos Garrett's legendary guitar solo--


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Leadfingers
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 08:16 PM

Afternoon Delight was used as a Sig Tune on Commercial Radio in UK a few years back ! They called the afternoon Pop programme 'Afternoon Delight' - Overkill doesnt do a song any good at all !!


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: katlaughing
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 08:53 PM

I've always liked it, esp. as I was at an age when I could listen to it AND practise it...in the afternoon.:-)

Loved the Hanky-Panky, too.:-)


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 09:16 PM

It's a tragedy when a good popular song gets used in an ad as far as I'm concerned.

Yeah, Leadfingers, overkill can ruin anything...look what it did to Springsteen in the late 80's...after "Born in the USA" and the big boxed set came out. For about 6 years or longer just about nobody wanted to buy another Bruce Springsteen record. Too much success at one time can be deadly.

Same deal with Michael Jackson after "Thriller" too...although I was never much interested in his music.


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: John Hardly
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 09:17 PM

My friend's dog, "Vinnie" is sort of cute. Cute is, I believe, the highest compliment he could aspire to. He'll never be "beautiful", "regal", "dignified". Cute is about it for Vin Tin Tin (as I've taken to calling him).

I was looking at Vinnie the other day and wondering just what it was that was wrong with his looks. Each of his elements are actually pretty darn stiking. He's got those great, deep brown, clear, inquisitive eyes, dotted above by those mahogany "eyebrows" -- sort of marked like a rotty or a dobe. His legs are long and well-muscled. His coat is beautiful. He has the baseball bat of a tail like a lab.

But the way it's all put together is just........all wrong.

Afternoon Delight is cute.


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 09:26 PM

I agree, John. It is cute. It's also one hell of a good piece of music, with a very original tune.

Cute is okay for this one.

Now for beautiful songs, regal songs, songs with gravity and dignity...well, there are plenty of those in the catalogs of Joni Mitchell, Leonard Cohen, Bob Dylan, Emmy Lou Harris, Van Morrison, Dire Straits, and many others, and I love 'em.

But cute is okay now and then. It does not deserve to be on a "worst song" list, and I think the reason it's there is that a lot of people are just too damned literal...or else they don't like anything that's happy...or cute. A bit of cynicism, perhaps? A bit of world-weariness?


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Subject: Lyr Add: AFTERNOON DELIGHT (Danoff)
From: Peace
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 09:27 PM

I am speechless after reading these lyrics. Ya done it again, LH.

AFTERNOON DELIGHT
Words and music by Bill Danoff; ©1976. ( Starland Vocal Band )

Gonna find my baby, gonna hold her tight
Gonna grab some afternoon delight
My motto's always been 'when it's right, it's right'
Why wait until the middle of a cold dark night?
When everything's a little clearer in the light of day
And we know the night is always gonna be there any way

Thinkin' of you's workin' up my appetite
Looking forward to a little afternoon delight
Rubbin' sticks and stones together makes the sparks ingite
And the thought of lovin' you is getting so exciting
Skyrockets in flight
Afternoon delight
Afternoon delight
Afternoon delight

Started out this morning feeling so polite
I always thought a fish could not be caught who wouldn't bite
But you've got some bait a-waitin' and I think I might try nibbling
A little afternoon delight
Skyrockets in flight
Afternoon delight
Afternoon delight
Afternoon delight

Please be waiting for me, baby, when I come around
We could make a lot of lovin' 'for the sun goes down

Thinkin' of you's workin' up my appetite
Looking forward to a little afternoon delight
Rubbin' sticks and stones together makes the sparks ingite
And the thought of lovin' you is getting so exciting
Skyrockets in flight
Afternoon delight
Afternoon delight
Afternoon delight

Afternoon delight


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 10:21 PM

Yup. Cute, catchy, and cool. I can remember feeling exactly like that with various girlfriends I had....and I'm sure you can too. I specially like the "skyrockets in flight" line. Perfect. ;-)

I truly think that a lot of people just hate happy-sounding songs on principle. They're hung up on angst.


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: M.Ted
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 10:24 PM

I don't know about this at all--I just listened to "Midnight at the Oasis"--still great, after all these years. I also listened to "Afternoon Delight"--All I will say, out of deference to LH, and speaking of dogs, is that the intro sounds a lot like "Me and You and a Dog Named Boo"--


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 10:27 PM

Don't say that! ;-) ARgh! You may be right about the intro, but the rest of it sure doesn't.

I never did much care for "Me and You and a Dog Named Boo"...way too sentimental. And, sheesh, talk about a pathetically bad way of concocting a rhyme to end a phrase. "Boo"? Gimme a break.

I sure wish I could beam back to then and watch Maria sing "Oasis" live...mmmm....mmmm!


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Peace
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 10:33 PM

Boo was a euphemism for marijuana in NYC. Was used for about two years--1964 and 1965. Then it fell out of vogue because it frightened too many people. Or everyone just forgot it. I can't remember.


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Anonny Mouse
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 10:43 PM

"Afternoon Delight" is not one of my favs-but among the worst ever? Dunno about that. Seems every year or so another one of these so-called polls come out. About 5 or 6 years ago "Rolling Stone" mag did one. I believe "(She's)Havin'My Baby" by Paul Anka won as the worst song ever. That I won't argue with. (What a WONDERFUL way of sayin' how much ya love me!!-awwwwwwwwwwww).


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 10:47 PM

Yes, "Havin' My Baby" generally takes the crown. It is the Big Daddy of all truly BAAAAAAAAAD songs! Whooo-Hah! I won't argue with that either.

Note that Shatner has never done a cover of it. That is no accident. ;-)


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 10:52 PM

LH, I was yanking your chain with "Midnight at the Oasis." I always liked it also. I picked a couple of songs from the same era for points of reference. No one said anything about Melanie's "Brand New Key." A genunine odd-ball that did serve to define "cute."

I was looking for one I couldn't remember the name, I am teasing the tune out of the ether of time, and came across this list of hits from 1970:

1. Venus - The Shocking Blue
2. Mama Told Me (Not To Come) - Three Dog Night
3. I Think I Love You - The Partridge Family   
4. The Tears Of A Clown - Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
5. The Rapper - The Jaggerz
6. I Want You Back - The Jackson 5
7. Spirit In The Sky - Norman Greenbaum
8. Vehicle - The Ides Of March
9. War - Edwin Starr
10. Green-Eyed Lady - Sugarloaf


I was, in fact, looking for "Spill the Wine" (War). I heard that a lot one summer when I was in high school, and since I didn't have a job I was reading several Classics. I'd sit up late at night when it was cool in my attic bedroom, window open, radio on in the background, and read. And the songs that came on were an odd array that when I hear them today they transport me back to that really rather marvelous summer.

SRS


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Subject: Lyr Add: HAVIN' MY BABY
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 11:02 PM

Havin' My Baby - Paul Anka

Havin' my baby,
what a lovely way of sayin' how much you love me.
Havin' my baby,
what a lovely way of sayin' what you're thinkin' of me.
I can see it
Your face is glowin'
I can see it in your eyes
I'm happy in knowin'...

That your havin' my baby,
you're the woman I love and I love what it's doing to ya.
Havin' my baby,
you're a woman in love and I love what's goin' through ya.
The need inside you
I see it showin'
Oh, the seed inside ya baby do you feel it growin'.
Are you happy in knowin'...

That you're havin' my baby,
I'm a woman in love and I love what it's doin' to me.
Havin' my baby,
I'm a woman in love and I love what's goin' through me.
Didn't have to keep it
Wouldn't put you through it
You could have swept it from your life but ya wouldn't do it.
No, you wouldn't do it...

And you're havin' my baby,
I'm a woman in love and I love what it's doin' to me.
Havin' my baby,
I'm a woman in love and I love what's goin' through me.


Hoo, boy. Just listened to the whole dang thing and I'm sort of beyond words. Sort of...   Gahhh!

If you wanna listen to it too, go here: Havin' My Baby


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Ron Davies
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 11:15 PM

You tell 'em, LH. I like "Afternoon Delight"--but I have great associations with it--and as I said earlier, that definitely colors your view of a song.

So it's not wonderful poetry--are we surprised? There are other things.

And it's probably not as good a song as "Midnight at the Oasis"--especially the way Maria purred it. Now there's one that belongs on a list of top songs--never "Worst Songs".


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Anonny Mouse
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 11:24 PM

Ooooh-Hawk; I read the lyrics while the damn tune played in my head. Now I have to clean up puke on my Laz-y-Boy. GAWDAWFUL!!! I may never read another thread by you LH.

"Spill the Wine" (wasn't that Eric Burden formerly from the "Animals"?) played one blissful summer when I was dating my fiance-soon-to-be-wife, working in a hospital, and living in a Frat House for "accomdations" provided by the hospital rent free. Fortunately, the brothers were all gone for the summer-except a couple, and they were righteous dudes, even though this was the "animal house." So, I have pleasant associations with that song, quirky as it was...and it was.


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 11:27 PM

It's incredible that Midnight at the Oasis would show up on a list of worst songs.

I figure it's due to clueless people who just don't ever listen to lyrics with any real attention, getting the vague notion that she's going to bed with her camel or something...

God help us.


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Peace
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 11:27 PM

No one has mentioned Equus Anonymous Deserticus. Thank you for that.


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 11:29 PM

I take it you're referring to "Havin' My Baby", Mouse? ;-D


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 11:34 PM

In a rare concurrence, I have to once again agree with Martin Gibson. Goldsboro's "Honey" was the most saccharine, awful song out there. Had to turn the radio off when that came on. "She's Having My Baby" is a close second.

They used to play "Flowers on the Wall" way too much (but it was a better song), in my opinion. There ways playlist overkill for "One Tin Soldier"--it was pretty awful (was that the name of it?)

SRS


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Peace
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 11:46 PM

It was the theme from the movie, "Billy Jack".


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Apr 06 - 11:55 PM

Yeah, that was the name of it, Stilly. "One Tin Soldier". Godawful piece of pretentious psudeo-peace movement self-righteous crap! It came from the soundtrack of the movie "Billy Jack" by Tom Laughlin, and the movie is godawful too...but it was the most successful independently financed film in American history. It was perfect for the militant mood of a lot of young long-haired people in 1973 (I think that was the year). The film was intense and terribly earnest, but also dreadfully overstated in its preachy presentation of "absolute good" (ass-kicking Indian martial arts hero and saintly nonviolent counterculture kids) vs "absolute evil" (rednecks, straights, cops, people in suits and short hair, the media, the military, the government, the middle class, the Man).

Curiously enough, I spent a good deal of time at Rolling Thunder's Camp near Carlin, Nevada in the 70's. It was a sort of hippy/American Indian commune, and it had been partially funded by Tom Laughlin and other pals of Rolling Thunder (John Pope). RT was an interesting character. I never did meet Tom Laughlin, but there was a truck there that he had donated to the camp when I was there, and it had his famous Billy Jack hat logo on the doors.

I have a friend who still plays "One Tin Soldier". I cringe inside when I hear it, but she doesn't know that.


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: M.Ted
Date: 29 Apr 06 - 12:34 AM

One bizarre thing about "One Tin Soldier", is that the melody borrows a bit from Pachelbel's "Canon in D"--


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: GUEST,Cluin
Date: 29 Apr 06 - 04:11 AM

"Afternoon Delight" was written and performed by Bill Danoff & Taffy Nivert, the main talent in Starland Vocal Band and good friends of John Denver. They wrote a lot of the better songs that JD recorded (sometimes co-wrote with John Denver), like "Country Roads", "Guess He'd Rather Be in Colorado", "Please Daddy Don't Get Drunk This Christmas", "Late Night Radio", "Readjustment Blues" and "She Won't Let Me Fly Away".... a lot of my favourites.

And I've always liked "Afternoon Delight".





Oh, yeah, the song too.


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: John O'L
Date: 29 Apr 06 - 08:24 AM

I guess I'll add my voice to the chorus of "sky - rockets in flight..." I thought it was OK. Certainly not offensive enough to be called worst ever. Not nearly as offensive as "Grease". Grease was not and is not the word, nor did it or does it have groove, or meaning, it is a crappy word from a crappy song from a crappy movie and has my vote for worst song ever.

Speaking of crappy movies, I guess none of you ever saw "Billy Jack Goes To Washington"?
Worst movie of all. Worse than "Grease".


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: John O'L
Date: 29 Apr 06 - 08:38 AM

Now this is anoying me. What was that other movie that came out about the same time as Billy Jack, about two young guys in the desert, something about a silver bullet, although the Lone Ranger wasn't involved, Country Joe & The Fish were in it, I think the James Gang, Doug Kershaw...Zachariah. That's what it was. That was a good movie.

Although I've answered my own question I've invested too much in this message not to post it. Hope I don't get bailed up by the Bandwidth Police.
Sorry for the thread-drift Little Hawk


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: John Hardly
Date: 29 Apr 06 - 12:02 PM

The other bizarre thing about "One Tin Soldier" is that anyone could stand to listen to it.

Go ahead. Hate your neighbor.

I don't. Just that song.


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Cruiser
Date: 29 Apr 06 - 01:00 PM

Man, the vagaries of musical tastes! I like 'Afternoon Delight' and 'One Tin Soldier' Like most music, good or bad, it brings back good or bad memories depending somewhat on one's mood or position at the time.

Now 'Midnight At The Oasis' is a terrible song and on my worst list. This song reminds me of my military service (good memory; bad song) as 'Brand New Key' does when I was at boot camp (good memory; okay song)

All I can say to Mr. Little Hawk (and others) regarding opinions on 'One Tin Soldier' is "Dipwallow!, Dipwallow"!

Cruiser


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: The Shambles
Date: 29 Apr 06 - 01:07 PM

Songs that esacpe the censors

How did this one escape?


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Subject: RE: In Defence of 'Afternoon Delight'
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 29 Apr 06 - 02:44 PM

If you want one that didn't escape the censors, look at "Squeezebox." link)

Mama's got a squeezebox
Daddy doesn't sleep at night


Well, duh! :)

SRS


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