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Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO

Soldier boy 22 May 06 - 04:26 PM
Tyke 22 May 06 - 02:19 PM
Cath 22 May 06 - 12:25 PM
Soldier boy 22 May 06 - 10:57 AM
Soldier boy 22 May 06 - 10:49 AM
GUEST,padgett 22 May 06 - 04:18 AM
Soldier boy 21 May 06 - 07:59 PM
Tyke 21 May 06 - 03:40 PM
r.padgett 21 May 06 - 01:57 PM
Tyke 21 May 06 - 01:52 PM
Cath 20 May 06 - 02:00 PM
Soldier boy 20 May 06 - 09:11 AM
Tyke 19 May 06 - 02:54 PM
panurus biarmicus 19 May 06 - 01:14 PM
breezy 19 May 06 - 12:27 PM
Cath 19 May 06 - 10:36 AM
Soldier boy 19 May 06 - 08:47 AM
Soldier boy 19 May 06 - 08:44 AM
Cath 19 May 06 - 08:42 AM
Soldier boy 19 May 06 - 08:41 AM
GUEST,Raggytash 19 May 06 - 06:54 AM
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GUEST,Raggytash 19 May 06 - 04:08 AM
Tyke 18 May 06 - 07:45 PM
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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 22 May 06 - 04:26 PM

Tyke, In the space of 5 messages you have contradicted yourself old boy. First you argue the case for a food/late session tent and then you argue the case against it. Make your mind up mate!

The expenditure for a food tent could be a major concern in the grand scheme of things.
I don't believe for one minute though that the reason Moor and Coast don't use their tent at their own festival has anything at all to do with any concerns about taking business away from local businesses.

The real reason I am sure is because Glenn and Chris organise the Moor and Coast Festival and can't organise everything and run a food tent as well - it's just too much.

Anyway, now that I have Caths' blessing and now that all contributors seem to be focusing their attention on next years festival let's now close this thread and start a new one dedicated to 2007 :

GO TO : " HOLMFIRTH FESTIVAL OF FOLK 2007 "


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 22 May 06 - 02:19 PM

Splendid fellow here Soldier Boy it was the Twilight Zone that was my main concern.
Holmfirth is a festival for all and whilst the singers and music playing types need to sleep in the dancers need a good nights sleep to get out and Dance in the Morning.

If and its a BIG IF the festival was moved to miss the Football Season so that the Campsite had more space. Then the River might need fencing both side of its banks and the controlling access point to make the site secure would not be at the Bridge which then would be in the middle of two campsites.

So that late night bacon buttie seems to be getting into the setting up a Green Field sized expenditure whilst taking trade away from the local businesses. So the provision of any on site catering needs careful consideration. I also think It could be the some of reasons that the Moor and Coast don't get out there tent to cater at it's own festival.

This is all speculation the answer could be to convert Ray Padgett's Estate Car into a Curry Wagon giving the Moor and Coast the Barnsley Chop.


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 22 May 06 - 12:25 PM

Sounds like a good idea to me!


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 22 May 06 - 10:57 AM

P.S: Hows about we now start a new thread for "HOLMFIRTH FESTIVAL OF FOLK 2007" so we can gather our thoughts and start to focus our collective minds on next years Festival.
And also be kept up to date on the progress of the Shepley contingent
What do you think ?


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 22 May 06 - 10:49 AM

And my share??


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,padgett
Date: 22 May 06 - 04:18 AM

I thought 'free sandwiches' was a band

Who got my share of food?

Ray


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 21 May 06 - 07:59 PM

Hey up Ray. You are quite right, a green field site will be VERY expensive to run. It will require a massive investment and would only work if the organisers book top billing artists to ensure they make a return on their investment.

I also agree with my mate Tyke (splendid fellow!) the Moor and Coast food tent was very sadly missed this year. Not only for the late food to soak up the beer and provide the morning breakfast but also for the late gathering of people to sing and play their hearts out in the twilight zone.


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 21 May 06 - 03:40 PM

Whilst The Moor and Coast Food Tent was missed its placement on the Campsite, which has reduced in size by one football pitch, has to be thought about.

In the past returning to the Moor and Coast Food Tent after the Pubs and concerts had finished for food and a sing was a great idea. Now that the Pubs are open till very late. Glens Happy Evening Hour would start later and later I fear the noise, as there is the need to make sure that it is a family festival. The attraction of Drinkers to a Greasy Glens is like moths around a flame only a lot louder at 3am plus.

I have no idea how much it costs The Moor and Coast for a concession or how much the provision of catering onto the site would add the costs insurance wise or in the cleaning the site. I could defiantly have murdered a full Monty on Sunday Morning when I was up late with little time.

However there were free sandwiches on the campsite didn't anyone tell you Ray.
Joking asides not everyone that comes to festivals has a car I'm sure that others missed the lack of on site catering.


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: r.padgett
Date: 21 May 06 - 01:57 PM

Well it does look as if the idea of a green field site is still in place ~ It will need a lot of money and a lot of outside help

I personally can see no benefits in taking to the fields and no jokes re sheep or any other cattle!!

The benefits of staying in Holmfith I believe outway the move ~ what do people think about the Civic/Picturedrome/Cragrats as guest venues? Why cant the organisers work with the locals??

The 'fringe' will always work in the pubs and the tourist attractions go without saying

The camp site still had plenty of room and there is a private camp site or two not too far away

Moor and Coast food tent have always come to Holmfirth after the Whitby w/end so i dont see a problem there and are always an asset
and a focal point for breakfast and supper


I do hope no organiser is trying to make a profit ~ oh folly!!


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 21 May 06 - 01:52 PM

The picture used on the Holmfirth Festival of Folk of a crumbling interior of a Public Bar filled with Folkies. May be a little bit of tradition associated with the Holmfirth Festival. How Holmfirth has changed over the years with its trendy Bars and restaurants. In this changing world it amused me to think back to how things were not just in Holmfirth were the Nook 25years ago may well have been one of the last bastions of a spit and sawdust Drinking Pub.

Allegedly I was told by Gus who was at the 2nd Holmfirth Folk Festival the floor of the Nook was so rotten. That the landlord seeing how popular and extra busy his pub had become on the Friday Night of the festival quickly organized a gang of his regulars to come in on the Saturday morning before the Pub opened to Tarmac the floor. Perhaps someone could confirm if this is true or not if it is true perhaps the final song of the festival should be Mac Alpines Fusiliers.

Gus was at the time recollecting that the Holmfirth Festival originally focused round sing in the local Pub's. What do I think well Yorkshire men are well know for telling tall tales that do have a trace of truth. It may well be however that the putting of a name to the traditional singing around Holmfirth has just helped to keep an already established tradition alive.

I'm all for a Greenfield Folk Festivals anywhere however the thought of one obliterating a Traditional Festival Like Holmfirth is abhorrent to me. Fortunately the hard work this year of the local people in Holmfirth have convinced me that a Money and profit driven festival on the same weekend has the most to loose.What you missed!


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 20 May 06 - 02:00 PM

I said at the meeting at Shepley that people had been coming to Holmfirth on the second weekend of May for 27 years and would continue to do so whether we changed the date of not because many wouldn't even know if the date had changed.
So, I said we had to keep the second weekend and they had to find another date.


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 20 May 06 - 09:11 AM

Nice one Tyke. I also agree with you about keeping the Holmfirth Festival of Folk to the same weekend and that this should be decided and announced as soon as possible.
Once the Shepley crew know we are'nt for budging it will be up to them to decide when to run their festival.
My guess is that they will not want to run one so close to HFofF and will back off and chose a later date in June/July.
I tried to put my case to Panurus Biarmicus last night but not sure I got through to him !


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 19 May 06 - 02:54 PM

Well I personal think that Holmfirth should keep to the same weekend it has always had. I can understand the benefits of getting out of the Football Season however they are a lot of festivals about. As for the Moor and Coast being on the weekend before well the Holmfirth Festival was well-established festival before the Moor and Coast. I don't know if The Rochester Sweeps festival predates the Moore and Coast but that is also on the same weekend.

The main thing is that it is that the Holmfirth Festival belongs to the local people and it should be a local decision. With that in mind here is a link to The Folk Roots festival guide. You will see that there is festival after festival listed and then there are all the festivals that are not included like Shanty Festivals and Mudcat Gatherings like the one this weekend that clashes with a festival in York. A list of Festivals in Britain and mainland Europe by date.


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: panurus biarmicus
Date: 19 May 06 - 01:14 PM

do my eyes deceive me or did i just see soliderboy offer to help !

in all my years of mating around with this fine chap i have never known him to see a full day - let alone do a full days work !

but SB if we get a campsite office set up this year - or even a campsite session tent going you can over see the night shift and roll out of bed at tea time - in time to try and catch up with the rest of us that will have been drinking since the pubs openned !

So it looks like we will be having to sort out another festival in holmfirth then if the old ctee are going to shepley - i do feel that is a big ask to make a green filed fest work from a standing start but good luck to them.

Do think we do all need to think about timing as if the fests are too close togther we do risk dividing a group of followers- esp the southern contingent that dont get up here so often !


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: breezy
Date: 19 May 06 - 12:27 PM

Eric Bogle's is in H firth in June and Dan Mckinnon will be appearing in support so it will make it a doubly worth going gig

Dan, from Nova Scotia, hell of a voice is the man who is compared often to Stan Rogers


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 19 May 06 - 10:36 AM

Thanks a lot Soldier Boy.
Maybe I'll get chance to talk to you next time. I only saw you walking away this time.


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 19 May 06 - 08:47 AM

Cath put me down to help next year.


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 19 May 06 - 08:44 AM

P.S: Is anyone going to the Mudcatters Yorkshire Gathering this weekend? What's it like? See Yorkshire Gathering thread.


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 19 May 06 - 08:42 AM

Interesting that - we are thinking of calling the next event Holmfirth Festival of Folk - the People's Festival.

Anyway we had a meeting the other day and we do plan to do it again. We will take a bit more time over it this time and hopefully iron out the few problems that we had and share out the work a bit more evenly. Quite a few helpers from previous years who fell out with the 'other lot' have come back and offered their help. And we have found new people who are also prepared to help.

At the 'other lot's' meeting in Shepley on Wednesday they announced that they are carrying out a feasability study of Shepley with the intention of finding a greenfield site there to run a festival which will not have Holmfirth in the title and will not be the 2nd weekend in May.
The feeling of the meeting seemed to be favourable so good luck to them.


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 19 May 06 - 08:41 AM

Aye! I can testify to that Raggytash.


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 19 May 06 - 06:54 AM

Nay Lad, them southern folkies, (Anarcticus Folkus Ennui Illigitemii)sing with their finger stuffed in their ear, and wave hankies when they're dancing, sing about Plough Boys, garlands, and sowing corn.
We Northern folkies (Arctius Folkus Gregariousi)sing about miners, shipbuilders and dance wearing 15lb clogs with iron bits on 'em


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,West Ham woz robbed
Date: 19 May 06 - 06:16 AM

As a southerner living up north, my reply to Tyke is that we Southerners present at "The People's Festival" (as first dubbed by Duncan McFarlane at the end of the band's session at the Sunday afternoon concert)knew a good thing when we saw / heard it, and we'll be back for more next year, assuming that Cath and Co. are the organisers.

This North / South divide thing makes my blood boil - we're all folkies, wherever we originate from.


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 19 May 06 - 04:08 AM

No, No, No Tyke .......... it's you who's providing me with a free pint .......... remember you promised ......... someone explain to him please


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 18 May 06 - 07:45 PM

Can someone please help me I think my dyslexia is getting worse. Have I read Raggytashes last contribution correctly? Did he just offer to by me a free pint in Whitby this week or next?


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 18 May 06 - 07:40 PM

I suspect sarcasm and although I do not know the words to The Fields of Athenrye. I have to say that there is nothing wrong with any song that can get someone's attention. So that the next song which has some meaning and depth given a chance to be heard by a wider audience.

Most of the songs that we care about have not received the hype and or the investment. Why? Because the media have little finance to gain by promoting traditional music "FOLK". Apart from two of the songs from my rapture that have recently appeared as jingles in TV adverts. I refer to "He's got Dad's pant's in the middle of his roll" and "You are my Sunshine". But don't ask me what they were advertising as I haven't the faintest idea.


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,squeezeboxhp
Date: 18 May 06 - 07:21 AM

saturday teatime in nook right hand small bar heard a parody of fields of athenry, anyone know where i can get the words


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST
Date: 18 May 06 - 06:29 AM

yes just got it panurus biarmicus is a bearded tit


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,Raggytash
Date: 18 May 06 - 03:51 AM

We all know about your type of courtin' Tyke, that's why all the sheep were locked away in pens, the local farmers had got early warning of your antics

PS I didn't get me free pint ....... are you in Whitby this weekend or next :-)


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 17 May 06 - 09:05 PM

Hello I'm just refreshing this thread which had fallen of the bottom of the page so that everyone can read about what a great time that I and everyone that I saw was having at Holmfirth It was great weekend and a Peoples Festival! For the softy southerners who "They were such nice people" I Northerners would say that they were right nice Folk.

Please ignore anyone who is obviously trying to cause trouble on this thread or by starting negative alternate threads. Regular Mudcatters contributors would use the search engine to find any information. This is intended to cut down on and or stop the duplication of Threads. Comments from Guests can be taken with a pinch of salt comments from Mudcatter Members can be traced by clicking on the name of the Member. Once you have done so the search engine will Identify all that members contributions you can then read the contributions and make up your own mind that members reasons for making his or her comments.

Better still PM or speak to your friends who were at this years festival and I sure that they will confirm what a fantastic festival it was and just how friendly everyone was. That way you will make sure you won't miss out on Next years Holmfirth Festival of Folk or the chance to spend a very pleasant time in Some of Yorkshire most loved countryside. Watching the Pratty Flowers Grow! Cos this is a right good spot to do a bit o Courting! Thars Now't like doing a bit O walking on the highway on a morning in May.


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 14 May 06 - 04:19 AM

Amen to that.
But thanks for your observations Andyval, made with the best of intentions.
I do think we need to be aware of incidents or we can end up with egg on our faces but then we must take action to try to avoid a recurrence. I witnessed the spat on Friday night but was totally unaware of Saturday's until Sunday afternoon.
I have received lots of feedback about the concerts and pub sessions, all saying what a brilliant job was done, some with valid concerns about situations that we could have avoided and others that were totally out of our control. All this is very valuable for future planning.
But overall the overwhelming feeling is that the whole festival was a great success, all had a brilliant time and are looking forward to coming back next year.
You can't say fairer than that can you?


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 13 May 06 - 11:36 AM

Quite agree with Panurus B and Tyke - too much emphasis and melodrama is being given on this thread to so called "loutish behaviour" at the festival.

It were summat and nowt. I've seen more aggro at an undertakers convention !

You're always going to expect some bother from local youths on a Fri and Sat night but Holmfirth suffers far less from trouble than most other places I can think of.
As usual it's just a tiny minority that can get out of hand but it was very quickly and expertly nipped in the bud by Sheila and her ever vigilant staff in the Nook.

Far outnumbering any "Loutish" elements were the number of young locals (18-23ish) who joined in with the singing and playing sessions in the pubs or watched and joined in with the brilliant "Free Sandwiches" on Sat night and had a brilliant time.

The best bit of comedy upset I saw was on Fri night (again in the Nook unfortunately) when two youngish women had a spat after one yelled "you've sha**ed my husband you f***ing bitch !!"
Again this was quickly defused by the Staff and the merryment swiftly continued.

So on that note can we please make no further mention of "loutish" behaviour. It t'were just two small incidents that soon blew over and dererves no further mention - at all. Thankyou.


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 13 May 06 - 09:37 AM

For those new comers to the Mudcat who are still just getting to grips with all it's in and outs. You might be interested to know that if you click on the name of the person who has written the contribution you will find a list of all his or her contributions. By reading these you will be able to determine or at least make a guess at his or her reasons for making his or her comments. Especially when asked to let a matter drop when it has nothing to do with the promotion of "Folk" music as the said subject has little to do with the brilliant time had by all at and in Holmfirth.


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: andyval
Date: 12 May 06 - 07:16 PM

there is a suggestion that the 'do' in the Nook on Friday was between two Town fans - possibly about who should play left midfield ?


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 12 May 06 - 04:26 PM

Exactly the impression I got panurus biarmicus I agree that there was very little to concern visitors to the festival. I was in the Nook on the Friday Night / Saturday morning. The fringe event in The Elephant and Castle on Saturday Night was trouble Free (well I needed an early night panurus biarmicus). The Drunken Women that walked and sang there way back to the campsite with me on Saturday Night were not with me (honest). I was in the Nook on the Sunday Night and I noticed that the enthusiastic but harmless drunk was spoken too by yourself. Which was enough to curb his enthusiastic calls for the sing of the Wild Rover.


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: panurus biarmicus
Date: 12 May 06 - 03:40 PM

hiya all- can i just do a bit of a reality check on this latest thread within the thread.

I was in the nook both on fri and on sat when there was an "incident" but let it be known this was knack all to do with the festival, and it did not really effect anyone from the festival who was visiting, playing or even drinking. Ity was simply an ongoing spat between 2 drunken youths who were being goaded by their respective mates.

Shelia (Nook landlady) was straight into the action and knew both the lads by name and calmed the situation down. The incident was unfortunate but for those of us stood close by it really was something and nothing. The youth of Holmfirth are not an itimidating mob and they dont really impact on the festival in a negative way. True they drink but equally they were joining in, singing and laughing along with the rest of us. It is better to be in and amongst the local community that watching from some green field folkie getto from afar.

I was pleased to say I saw a few kids that have grown up with our dance side over the past 15 years and they were all out on the lash with their mates - i was pleased to see them, and pleased they were out and about listening to tradition music & for the most part drinking real ale - God bless 'em !

On a much more serious matter does anyone know why the examiner published numerous photos of morris sides but yet failed to publish its annual photo of me ! Methinks i wil have to write to the editor ...

wassail


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 12 May 06 - 02:22 PM

Again the fact that the minority local louts displayed loutish behaviour for a few moments during a weekend should be the concern of the local residents and the police in Holmfirth. This is a local issue, which has no bearing on the Holmfirth Festival. Going on an on about it will only seek to give these louts the upper hand and increase in their eyes their street credibility.

I'm not suggesting that people should walk about the streets unaware of the dangers of Louts and Morons. However if the majority of decent law abiding citizens are given the impression that the streets of England are not safe and stay indoors giving up the streets to the louts will bring about a very sad day indeed.

Should you walk round the streets in Amsterdam or any large city in the Netherlands you will feel safe as there are plenty of people about day and night. Take a walk the next morning and you will find Bicycles thrown into the canals discarded needles and other drug related objects.

Be aware, be safe keep to the main streets and where possible walk about in groups. As for the louts of the world well their days are numbered when decent citizens walk the streets of the world with mobile phones. Big brother is watching see Google Earth and CCTV I may not like its invasion of privacy but it is here to stay. Though not idiot free Holmfirth during the folk Weekend is one of the friendliest happiest and safest places to be.


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: andyval
Date: 12 May 06 - 12:44 PM

Most young 'uns always seem to enjoy the festival. However , and this applies to other festivals (very unpleasant at Girvan on May Day Bank Holiday w/e apparently)as well, there are often elements of local thugs who seek pleasure in intimidating/assaulting anyone who is 'different'or from somewhere 'not local'. Look at the 'Why do they come ?' thread on www.Footstompin.com

Stands to reason that if loutish/thuggish behaviour is normal on a Friday and Saturday night - add several hundred folkies and visitors and trouble is not surprising. I wasn't for a moment suggesting that the behaviour was the festival's fault Cath, simply that some extra police presence might have reduced the bother.


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 12 May 06 - 11:56 AM

Tyke have you been sitting there all day just waiting for it to get to 200?
And there was me thinking that we had made it into the Times Ed.


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 12 May 06 - 11:36 AM

200


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 12 May 06 - 11:33 AM

Has anybody seen the Times Ed this week?
I am told they are doing a piece about the 'Morris Heads' and sent a photographer to the Schools' Concert on Saturday lunchtime and it might be in this week.
Also I hear that one of these same Heads wants to pursue the dancing as she enjoyed it so much.
Another convert!


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,Ned at work
Date: 12 May 06 - 10:37 AM

I took from my 'friend' with the Melodeon that he would much rather festival in Holmfirth.
Tyke... The banned bit is ok, but I'm a bit concerned about the 'bared'. Is this some sort of enforced mooning?
Ned


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 12 May 06 - 10:33 AM

I met quite a few local young'uns as well muppett and they were great fun. They mixed in really well and were willing to learn. I also discovered some brilliant young local talent and potential so the future of "Folk" and festivals like HFofF is in good hands.
Think I might become an agent!
There is so much potential out there that just needs encouragement and a friendly guiding hand. Can Mudcatters do more to help young talented musicians and singers to blossom and grow?
[Especially in the Holme and Colne Valleys where there seems to be quite an abundance of young creative talent.]


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: muppett
Date: 12 May 06 - 10:00 AM

I met up with several local youngsters in the yard of the Nook late saturday night / Sunday Morning and had a most excellent session with them and taught them a range of songs from the wheels on the bus to the pirate song (when I was one I ate a bun the day I went to see, I jumped upon a pirate ship and the captain said to me .....)then did some dance (rave) tunes for them on my gazoo. No trouble at all.


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Soldier boy
Date: 12 May 06 - 08:51 AM

You can't help having some bad eggs no matter how many times you make an omlette.


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 12 May 06 - 04:09 AM

From conversations I have had with local licensees it would appear that the loutish behaviour is normal Saturday night stuff. Not that that excuses it, but from the police point of view I don't think that it will be laid at the door of the festival.
Hopefully, not many of the folk festival people will have come across it. I left the Bridge about 1.30 and all was quiet - I understand it kicked off about 2.00.
But thanks for the observations chaps.


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Tyke
Date: 11 May 06 - 08:08 PM

Mmmm perhaps the name is not as important as Holmfirth's well-established weekend. The policing of local lout is the duty of the local Police. Troublemakers should be banned and bared from drinking in the areas that they are causing trouble and banned from the area on Saturday Nights.

How the Loutish behaviour would point in favour of a green field site I can't understand. I know of one Green field Site Festival were their was a stabbing incident.

Holmfirth Festival was one of the most if not thee most friendly festivals that I have been had the pleasure of attending. I look forward to being invited to Holmfirth Next Year.


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: andyval
Date: 11 May 06 - 07:12 PM

Hi Cath. One point worth thinking about- apparently there was some local lout element causing bother especially on Saturday night. This works in favour of the 'green field site' protagonists. I think that a more obvious police presence would have prevented any problem.


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 11 May 06 - 06:40 PM

We've fallen off the bottom of the page!!

Anyway the weekend's events are all over the front and middle of our local weekly rag and I think the festival has been declared a resounding success!

We meet next week to look at how things went financially and to consider where we go from here.

I think some of us should go to the meeting in Shepley to ask if Holmfirth Folk Festival Ltd have any intention of returning to Holmfirth and if not (which I assume will be the answer) just what they propose to call their event, wherever it should be held. It will only confuse their punters if they call it Holmfirth when we will be claiming the name. After all we really can't call ours anything else can we?

Answers on a postcard.


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: Cath
Date: 10 May 06 - 04:18 PM

Is it the melodeon playing or festival in Shepley that would be the cause of him jumping on a bus to Holmfirth?

All should be revealed next week at the meeting at Shepley Village Hall or some such place.


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Subject: RE: Holmfirth Festival of Folk TWO
From: GUEST,Ned at work
Date: 10 May 06 - 10:38 AM

Just been talking to a Shepley resident who'se a melodeon player(That's ok!) and He said quite spontaneously with no prompting that if there were a festival in Shepley he would jump on a bus and go to Holmfirth!
Ned Ludd.


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