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MBSLynne 14 Mar 06 - 03:12 AM
Gervase 14 Mar 06 - 03:32 AM
pixieofdoom 14 Mar 06 - 04:31 AM
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John MacKenzie 14 Mar 06 - 04:54 AM
Ella who is Sooze 14 Mar 06 - 06:03 AM
MBSLynne 14 Mar 06 - 06:03 AM
Ella who is Sooze 14 Mar 06 - 06:08 AM
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MBSLynne 14 Mar 06 - 07:45 AM
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Mooh 14 Mar 06 - 10:44 AM
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MBSLynne 14 Mar 06 - 02:08 PM
Clinton Hammond 14 Mar 06 - 02:17 PM
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Subject: BS: Looking for a dog
From: MBSLynne
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 03:12 AM

Our old dog died, aged 14, three years ago now and dog-broodiness has grown to such an extent that I really need another dog. I've looked at a few rehoming sites on the net, though at least one had so many rules about what you must and mustn't do once you'd got the dog that I'd never feel as though it was mine. Has anyone got any suggestions about where I can find a dog?

Love Lynne


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Gervase
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 03:32 AM

At the risk of some risque remarks (Dogs? Blimey missus, I've known some...never slept with one, mind, but I've woken up with a few...Sorry, I'll get me coat...), what about the Blue Cross? We've had cats from there and the staff don't seem too obsessive - just reasonably concerned about their welfare and how we're going to look after them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: pixieofdoom
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 04:31 AM

Sometimes people put adverts in vets surgeries when trying to re-home their dogs. I've seen ads in the local papers too


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: gnomad
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 04:49 AM

Have you thought of trapping one? Judging by the state of the pavements most towns are full of them.

If you are still friendly with your local vet (s)he can probably make a few more practical suggestions, and may even know of individual animals.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 04:54 AM

Yes I agree with Pixie on the vet idea, there are alway ads in our vet's surgery.
We have always got our dogs from a local rescue service, and it has cost us nothing as opposed to the RSPCA's £30,[last I heard].
If you hanker after a specific breed of dog then all of these breeds run their own rescue service rehoming dogs of that breed. Look them up on the net.
At least that way you would find out why the dog is homeless, and not just be lumbered with a dog with unknown problems. In many cases there are good reasons why a dog needs a new home, but beware of the 'problem dog'. For many years of my life I was involved with breeding and showing dogs, and I have seen some sad cases, so caveat emptor Lynne.
Giok


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 06:03 AM

Lynne...

Where do you live, someone at work with me was advertising for a home for a 5month Border Collie (tri colour) pup, male...

E>W>I>S


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: MBSLynne
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 06:03 AM

I'll look at blue cross on the net Gervase, thanks.

I may also try ringing our vet.

I looked at the web site for border collie rescue and it was that one that put me off, since you didn't appear to be able to do anything at all with the dog without informing them first.

I tried 'PAWS' as well, but all their rescue centres are an awfully long way from us.

I'll let you know of any developments.

Love Lynne


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 06:08 AM

Lynne.

Have just sent you a pm... please check!

Regards

EWIS


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 06:41 AM

Go to a dog shop.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: kendall
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 07:03 AM

Whatever you do, please find out the characteristics for certain breeds. Huskys MUST run. Border collies are neurotic dalmatians are hard to train, etc. Get a retriever; Golden or Lab. If you can settle for a plain old dog, get a mutt from the pound.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 07:10 AM

oooo Border Collies are neurotic dalmations... odd

oh I know what you mean... they are great and very loyal as long as they are very well trained AND exercised. I've known loads, all of whom were gorgeous temperments, very loyal and exceedlingly clever.

Retrievers and labs are big chewers when young, and will have a go at chewing most things including walls, skirting boards etc... but again are fabulously loyal, but LOVE LOVE LOVE eating any old junk they find.

EWIS


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: MBSLynne
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 07:45 AM

Always had labs and collie crosses up to now and you can't beat those, so I'm hoping to continue with them. Collies aren't all neurotic. They are a fairly disparate breed. It helps to be able to see the parents, but not possible with rehoming or strays.

Love Lynne


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 09:07 AM

You can look into rescuing a greyhound ... contrary to what people preceive, they are lazy, just require regular walks, are very sincere and endearing dogs.

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: SINSULL
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 10:13 AM

Homeless dogs left behind when Katrina hit are being shipped to shelters all over the US. Poor things are severely traumatized first by losing their owners then by the hardships of the storm then by starvation. I don't know that they are going overseas but it's worth a look.
Many cats too.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 10:25 AM

Adopt a stray. That's what I did with my pit bull, and she is the smartest and sweetest dog I've ever owned. She wandered up the driveway and never left (she was injured so she wasn't a "free" dog.) Her companion (a catahoula) came from the Humane Society a couple of months later (I'm sure some of the UK organizations listed above are comparable). They do have rules, primarily that your animal be spayed or neutered before leaving the place and that you give it a good home.

Dogs live in the present, according to the "Dog Whisperer" Cesar Milan (of the National Geographic Channel) and he is right. And you need to be the "pack leader," or the one they look to for behavior clues. They may have had issues in the past but you can work with most of them and go forward from where you are now and have great animals. That has certainly been the case with my pit bull, who was afraid of quite a number of things in the environment until we gave her new responses. A walk at night was impossible because she was terrified of oncoming headlights. We started with daytime walks and always sat by the curb when faced with an oncoming car (both dogs do it). Given a job to do, "sit" replaced "flee" in the face of vehicles and we can take nice walks in the cool of the evening now. We no longer have a noisy tangle of leashes when we meet other dogs on our walk. They stand quietly wagging on either side of me. How cool is that?

It takes work, and dogs need good long walks to stay normal. Walks are good for you also. Good luck in whatever you adopt.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Mooh
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 10:44 AM

Best dogs we have had are the ones we have now, Rosie The Wonder Dog (Collie/Springer/Coyote), and Cosmo (Lab/Corgi). Had both since pups. Right now their training is evident as they both love practicing being doormats. Both are loving and lovable, loyal, happy, smart, active, and great companions.

I agree though, anything with Lab in it is going to chew. The house is riddled with chew toys and "bones", but I love Labs as their personalities seem to work with mine.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Scoville
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 11:25 AM

Pound, rescue, or "foundling" if you're not planning to get back into showing. Mine was a 5-year-old pound dog that nobody wanted because she was too old, had heartworms, and was ugly. Really, really, ugly. She's healthy now, all her hair has grown back, and she's not only beautiful, but she turned out to be an absolutely wonderful dog. (American Eskimo. Very similar to a German spitz or Keeshond. Basically a decent breed but can be stubborn and nasty if they're not well socialized. Probably not your thing if you're Lab people, though)

There's never any such thing as a "free" dog, of course. Most of them will need to be spayed/neutered, may need heartworm treatment (depends on where you live and their history--it's almost universal here unless they're well-cared-for), repairs, etc. But you probably know that since you've had dogs before.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: MBSLynne
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 02:08 PM

I've never heard of heartworm. It sounds horrible.

One of the best dogs my family ever had was a resuce dog. he'd been hit by a car and taken in. His poor face was always slightly askew and he was ugly but he was the most incredible smart dog with a fantastic personality. Hard act to follow though....

Love Lynne


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 02:17 PM

"I've never heard of heartworm"

And you claim to have been a dog owner??????

You must have been REALLY crap at it....

All you'd have to do is take it to a vet ONCE and they'd test for heartworm.... it's that standard a procedure....


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: GUEST,Number 6
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 02:36 PM

Is canine heartworm an issue in Great Britain?

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 02:46 PM

http://www.isabellevets.co.uk/health_advice/dog/info/roundwormsdog.htm

"Until recently Heartworm caused by Dirofilaria immitis has not been a problem in the United Kingdom. However two factors are changing this situation and we should all be warned about the possibilities of this fatal parasite, especially if we live or travel in mainland Europe or live in southern Britain."

There ya have it I guess.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 02:58 PM

More of a problem in hotter climates, but with the UK quarantine now lifted it will become a problem.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 03:14 PM

FYI-- border collies are NOT like other collies in temperament-- bred to boss livestock or anyone acting like livestock.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: MBSLynne
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 04:55 PM

Clinton, why do you have to say ordinary things in such an offensive way? No I was not crap as a dog owner..as you see, heartworm is not something we've had over here until recently. Why don't you get your facts straight before you start slagging people off? I thought it was too good to last. I'd started to visit the Cat a bit more often lately and actually had some decent conversations, but I should have known as soon as I saw your name on the thread that unpleasantness would follow. Happens every time. It's a pity...this would be a nice place if it were not for the few arseholes like you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 05:27 PM

It could be worse. Have you met Martin Gibson yet?

Heartworms are usually fatal for the dog or cat if left untreated, and hard to treat. The treatment is a form of chemotherapy that is pretty hard on the animals.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: LilyFestre
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 05:29 PM

If you live out in the country, a good way to find out about a dog is to ask your mail carrier. Our mail lady can tell us who has kittens, chicks, puppies, piglets, calves. It's a good way to find a local pup without going through the expense of a pet store (which I would NEVER recommend). The pound is a good place too...just depends on what YOU want...a pup with a clean slate or a dog that may need some help readjusting to a new family...both very worthwhile adventures IMHO.

Let us know what you get, k? We once had 10 labs and 22 lab puppies at one time...WOOO WEEE! We're down to 5 labs...can't imagine life without a lab.

Michelle


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: kendall
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 05:43 PM

I saw what heartworm did to a neighbor's dog. Horrible, and so unnecessary.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: GUEST,rarelamb
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 06:41 PM

Some good advice here. I wanted to put my 2 centavos into the ring and support the notion that you should research the breed. Purebred dogs have the benefit of having some common characteristics. I would determine what kind of lifestyle I live and then try to find a breed that best matches it.

If you work and no one is home during the day then a puppy may not be for you. I'm not sure if in the UK there are breed rescues but in the US there are specific breed rescues through out the country. That avenue has the benefit of going through people who know the breed and have done the leg work to match you up with the best dog/bitch. They also take care of the medical work and have temperament tested the dog.

Another avenue would be to find a RESPONSIBLE breeder. Many breeders have adults that they are trying to home. This avenue is more expensive initially but may be cheaper in the long run due to the careful breeding resulting in cheaper medical expenses.

Good luck with whatever you do and keep us updated.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 06:47 PM

"Why don't you get your facts straight before you start slagging people off?"
Where's the fun in that...

"this would be a nice place if it were not for the few arseholes like you"
So then fuck off and don't come back....

"Heartworms are usually fatal for the dog"
Exactly why it's a big deal....

"a good way to find out about a dog is to ask your mail carrier"
That's a GREAT idea!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 14 Mar 06 - 07:32 PM

I haven't bothered to read all this thread MSBLynne, but I have to ask, wouldn't a nice girl be better for you than a dog?


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: MBSLynne
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 10:12 AM

I don't swing that way Robin!


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Raptor
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 11:17 AM

SIT Clinton SIT

Thats a bad boy!

Go to your crate!


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 12:27 PM

I sometimes think I'd like a dog. I'd call him Jim or something similar and we'd go out for walks. but then I realise I'm not mature enough to look after a dog, or a guitar, or anything.

if I had a dog it would get scratches in it, like my guitar. people would say - he doesn't treat that dog very well - just as they say about my guitar. the neighbours would say, that's his bloody dog making a noise again - like they do about my guitar.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Maryrrf
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 12:37 PM

Good luck with your search for a dog, Lynne. I second the suggestion of an older dog. They have more problems finding homes and at least will have gone through the stage where they chew everything. (By the way, I also thought CH was way out of line with his remark)


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 12:52 PM

What are you looking for in a dog? It can influence the preferred breed, although I would agree that retired greyhounds are a good choice unless you or your neighbours have cats - because the greyhound is one of the few breeds that can pretty well guarantee to catch a fleeing cat - others being saluki borzoi maybe deerhound and others of the larger gazehounds.

The various UK breed rescues are mostly quite reputable.

I am concerned at the practice of many of the big rehoming centres, particularly the RSPCA in castrating all dogs before rehoming. I am aware of a case in which the RSPCA castrated the ONLY two white male Pharoahhounds in the country because of this policy: a material loss to the genepool. White is permissible in Pharoahhounds, it's not like removing Dudley boxers or white GSDs from the genepool


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 12:54 PM

But wld, the important thing is that you care about your guitar, even if you neglect it. You might do the same with a dog, and the dog would return your caring, as long as it doesn't know that there are better masters than you around.

Just don't let your guitar play with others, or it may come to understand that you're not the true god of music, and it may follow a better master off to some unknown place.

I had a girl-friend did that to me once, long ago.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: LilyFestre
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 08:53 PM

Remedying the chewing is fairly easy. When you are home with the dog, instantly replace a shoe or sock or whatever with a real bone. Spray anything that the dogs seems to like to chew on and shouldn't, with Green Apple Spray. You can buy it at the local farm store, pet store or online. Having had way more dogs than a person should ever have at once, I swear by the stuff. Animals hate it and it won't hurt your stuff or your children. It smells bitter for about 5 minutes and then the smell disapates.

So...did you find yourself a new friend yet?

Michelle


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: GUEST,Dave'sWife sans cookie
Date: 15 Mar 06 - 10:08 PM

I second the recommendation to go to a Breed Rescue. I got both my last 2 dogs from German Shepherd Rescue and I couldn't have done better. Breed rescues truly care about their breed and go round to various kill shelters pulling out good pure-breds without health issues or behavior defects hoping to place them with a lover of that breed. I started out fostering both dogs and kept them both. One was an elderly dog and one a puppy.

The advantage to fostering is that the breed Rescue will cover most routine Vet Care until you decide that you will keep the dog. If you stay as a foster parent, they usually pick up all vet expenses if that is an issue for you. I adopted both relatively quickly and never took them up on that but it's something to consider. This way, if your heart could stand it, you could even consider fostering an older dog of about 7 or 8 that might otherwise be stuck at the Rescue. That was my thinking the first time I went to German Shepherd Rescue.

If you want a puppy, they have them too. You could get a dog that would ordinarily cost $800 to $1000 American for a $100 donation. Sometimes, they are just thrilled to have you take the dog and waive adoption fees.

Best of luck to you. When you get your new Puppy, please start a silly puppy thread so thosew of us who like to gush over baby dogs can do all of our requisite gushing!

(Hey Sooz? How's Meg?)


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 02:06 PM

Pitbulls can catch cats also. It was expensive when my dog caught one of the cats. The cat's injury happened to be a broken jaw when she bit the dog, no punctures or bruises to her hind leg that we pryed from the dog's mouth. We think she just wanted to play, but it didn't work out too well. So I had to get the pit treated for the bite to the bony top of her snout. You can still feel the little scars there when you pet her. The dogs are banned from the house now.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Sooz
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 02:31 PM

Meg the Border Collie is just over a year now. A great companion but quite demanding on the exercise and attention (which was why we chose the breed.)Incidentally she is most of the reason we have just bought a motorhome so she doesn't have to go into kennels so we can go on holiday.
Our previous dog was an Old English Sheepdog rescued through the RSPCA. An amazing character, very affectionate and loyal despite what she had been through.
I think any dog is mostly what you make it - nature 10% vs nurture 90%


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: kendall
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 03:19 PM

There are certain traits that can not be "nurtured" out, so, beware.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 09:36 PM

Sooz- so glad to hear Meg is doing well. Can you post the link to her photo page again? I had it bookmarked but lost it in a computer crash.

I hate to think of the day when my Alsatian will pass away. He's 7 now and slowing down a bit due to his epilepsy. Considering his seizure problem though - he's doing remarkably well. My vet hasn't got any other epileptic dogs who go for several months without a grand mal episode. I think part of it is normal aging. He stayed so puppyish for so long. One day when he turned 5, he wasn't quite the bouncy boy he once was.

I've no complaints though. He still likes to go hiking and play his own made up games in the yard. We play dog tag, dog football and something called "spin the puppy' which is great fun.


MBSLYnne, I hope you find a wonderful doggie to love and who will love you. There's nothing better than having a good dog except perhaps having a good spouse and nice children and a good beer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: LilyFestre
Date: 16 Mar 06 - 09:43 PM

Wait...you bought a motorhome so you can take your dog on holiday with you and not have to board her? Damn. I want your life.

Michelle


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: nutty
Date: 17 Mar 06 - 02:43 AM

I have two 'rescue' dogs and love them both dearly. I second whats been said about the rescue organisations, dogs need homes and both dog and prospective owner are vetted before re-homing is allowed.

The RSPCA do not usually rehome dogs with people who are out at work all day.

If you are looking for a specific type of dog there are 'breed' rescue groups. Eg. Border Collie Rescue. Try Googling for them.

CLINTON ..... Heart Worm is very very very rare in the UK.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Dave'sWife
Date: 17 Mar 06 - 06:20 AM

I wish we could get an RV (American for Motor Home) so we could take our doggy with us on vacation. I had to recently stay at home while Dave went alone to a family funeral because no kennel would take an epileptic dog. The same may happen later this spring for a family wedding. Putting Poochie in the coach and driving off would be ever so much better!

Well Sooz, I guess this means we should expect many more photos of Meg 'singing' at festivals and song circles, yes?


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 17 Mar 06 - 09:21 PM

Right after Hurricane Katrina the local humane society started trying to move the local animals so they could bring in "Katrina dogs." I went down to the shelter and looked around, and asked about taking one home to meet my dog. She needed a companion and this was a good opportunity. They said I'd have to bring her down there and they'd let them meet. It was a really hot day, 100 degrees, so after Cinnamon (the pitbull) and I met Poppy and they hit it off so well, I kept Cinnamon with me while I waited in line inside to sign the papers. They had so many people there wanting to help out who had never owned dogs that they were taking a long time with each prospective adoptee (I watched them deny one woman, and did she go ballistic! I think they were right, though). Cinnamon lay on the floor at my feet, and as people came into the room they either sidled around the room to avoid her, or walked up to me and asked to pet her. (Several wanted to adopt her!) She happily wagged and licked hands and was pleased with the attention. When I got to the clerk, they didn't read me the "how to care for a dog because they're a lot of work" speech. We just signed the papers. My supposedly high-maintenance dog had performed perfectly and that's what they needed to know about me as a dog owner. I was so proud of her!

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: LilyFestre
Date: 17 Mar 06 - 11:17 PM

Hey Dave's Wife,

    We had a dog who had seizures and our vet would board him at the hospital when we needed to be away (rare for us...so it didn't happen often). It cost a little bit more than normal boarding but then it was a convience for us and we knew our pup was where she would receive help if necessary. Just a thought.

Michelle


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 22 Mar 06 - 05:01 AM

It's not often I repsond to the rudeness of some people on the mudcat, mostly I can't be bothered to get in to the bickering, and I know I shouldn't respond to this but...

It's a real shame that some people have to turn to offensive words to get their points across to others. And in that I mean Clinton's offensive use of the English language. It really is a shame, and to be frank, there's enough problems in day to day life why should we face offensiveness here.

Yes, there is a huge problem with Heartworm in USA (and I only know about this because of friends who live in there), but to date the cases are not high in the UK. Vets are not mentioning it in the regular yearly animal check ups we do when we take our animals for their boosters/check ups etc. So, how is the average jack or jill meant to know about it, without prior ventinary knowledge, or links to people in the USA to discuss these problems. At the moment, vets here do not generally test for heartworm, and yes perhaps they should start doing so.

It would be great if people could withhold their offensive comments and try for some more constructive 'conversational' skills which could be put to good use to informing our mudcat pals and share the vast amount of knowledge wealth and normal debating – instead of attacking people so easily especially when you don't know what 'state' their emotions may be in.

I'd love it if people could refrain from using offensive and plain rudeness, the English language is diverse, use it wisely... But most of all ... try to be nice... and think about which country the poster comes from.

EWIS


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: MBSLynne
Date: 22 Mar 06 - 06:13 AM

Agree totally Sooz, but I think you're flogging a dead horse.

Love Lynne


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Ebbie
Date: 22 Mar 06 - 11:58 AM

Alaska is another place without heartworm. However, I know of a dog in town that eventually had to be put down because of heartworm. The owner with his dog had recently moved here from Texas.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Mar 06 - 12:07 PM

Sooz - he's not very bright and just doesn't get it, I'm afraid.
Though it pains me to say it, even the Mudcat has its special needs kids. The ones that used to sit at the back and do things with raffia. Trouble is, now they've all been given computers, and you can see where that's led us - give a keyboard and an internet connection to some young lummox with Tourette's and the result is plain to all.
*sigh*


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Mar 06 - 03:25 PM

Heartworm is spread through mosquitoes from animal to animal. I don't know if there is another vector in there, but you're not telling us that Alaska has no mosquitoes, are you? I thought the place was famous for its annoying flying biting insects.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: MBSLynne
Date: 22 Mar 06 - 03:43 PM

It seems generally, to be the warmer places that have it. Mosquitos also spread malaria, but not everywhere has that

Love Lynne


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 23 Mar 06 - 06:08 AM

I think the most worrying thing apart from the obvious things we have to worry about here are the diseases spread by the ticks - encephalitus, and limes oh and viles from rats... Had a cat who got bitten by a rat he was hunting, and he got Viles disease. He was very poorly and we almost lost him, if it hadn't been for a switched on Vet knowing about Viles. T' Wasn't nice!

EWIS... who is going to change Sooze to Suze so I'm not confused with the other Sooz... ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: MBSLynne
Date: 07 May 06 - 11:49 AM

Hey we found a dog!! A friend of mine told me a while ago about the rescue place he got his dog from, so I looked up the web site on the net and went on their mailing list. On Thursday got a message to say they were having a dog show on Sunday and that the web site had been updated. I looked through the dogs for adoption...and there she was! Just the dog I've been looking for! So Shady and I went up to meet her today and she's lovely. We haven't got her at home yet because they have all dogs sterilised and vaccinated before they go out and she hadn't yet been done so it will be a couple of weeks. She's a border collie currently named Jeannie. About a year old and picked up as a stray. Seems lovely natured and for her age, quite steady. Any suggestions for a good name or shall we just keep calling her Jeannie?

Love Lynne


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Sooz
Date: 07 May 06 - 12:14 PM

Welcome to the club - I didn't think it was possible for a border collie to be "steady"! Ours needs at least five miles a day and the doggie equivalent of a couple of crossword puzzles.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Ebbie
Date: 07 May 06 - 12:39 PM

Some friends of mine have a border collie (maybe with a touch of lab) that they got from the local Humane Society. That dog is arguably the smartest dog I ever knew. By the time she was 3 months old Magpie knew her toys by name, by the time she was 6 months old she would find a person she knew in a small crowd when she was told to go find 'so and so'. She however did fail the training as a Rescue Dog because it is important to her to be top dog. She does take top honors in agility trials.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: MBSLynne
Date: 07 May 06 - 02:03 PM

Well this little girl seems very alert and interested in everything. The girl at the rescue place says she seems very bright. It was one of the reasons I wanted a border collie. The reason I said she seems 'steady' was that she doesn't leap around like a mad thing when you make a fuss of her, like a lot of border collies I know. She's in lovely condition and I have warned the family that she will need lots of excercise! The thing that makes me feel a little sad is that she doesn't look like a dog who has been abandoned, so someone somewhere is probably heart-broken to have lost her...

Love Lynne


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 May 06 - 02:04 PM

You can use this waiting period as time to go pick up everything in your yard that you don't want chewed and make sure the fence is in good repair. Even after that the dog will find lots of things you need to address. But what fun, and the anticipation will be pleasant.

That sounds like a nice name she has, but something else may suggest itself. Ours was named "Sister" when we adopted her, but we don't know what the context (I think she was picked up as a stray). We renamed her Poppy because the first name didn't speak to us or really fit her.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Hawker
Date: 07 May 06 - 02:36 PM

Hi Lynne,
Glad to see you have a new family member, Hope to meet her soon! I know Clinton can appear to be an asshole, but on a thread about pussycats recently, he came over for once, as a real softie. I think he means well, but we Brits are not used to his forthright kind of manner. I have had dogs all my life, worked as a volunteer for the RSPCA for a time - and it wasn't until recently that I came across heartworms. I think it is something as yet uncommon in the UK, but thank you Clinton for making us aware of it, even if it is in your own inimitable style!
Best of luck with the new pooch, hope she settles in well.
Cheers, Lucy


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Sorcha
Date: 07 May 06 - 03:18 PM

Oh boy....better find her a Job real quick, or the one she finds you probably won't like. Also, read ALL of Donald McCaig's books as quickly as you can.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: MBSLynne
Date: 07 May 06 - 04:46 PM

Who is Donald McCaig Sorch?

Sorry Lucy, if I don't agree with you about CH. It isn't the first time I've crossed swords with him and I think...well never mind what I think. I no longer read any messages posted by him at all. This seems like the best way to avoid someone unpleasant.

I'm not sure about the name. Jeannie is quite nice. I thought Meg seemed to fit but Shady is adamant that it's the wrong name. I quite like the idea of a 'traditional' sheepdog name. I expect something will suggest itself when we get her home

Love Lynne


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Sorcha
Date: 07 May 06 - 05:02 PM

McCaig has Border Collies...writes books about them. GOOD books, LOTS of valuable advice. Do 'Nop's Trials' first. Then the others.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Zany Mouse
Date: 07 May 06 - 07:01 PM

Well done Lynne. Max (the Yorkshire Terrorist) and I look forward to meeting her at a folk festival.

Incidentally, Sooz, we bought our motorhome for the exact same reason!

Rhiannon


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: MBSLynne
Date: 08 May 06 - 02:43 AM

We are hoping to get a van to use at festivals too. I'm intending to give her lots of training in going among people and behaving. As I said, she seems quite steady (for a young border collie!) already, so we may be taking her to Sidmouth. Looks like I'll have to go to the pub often taking her with me (*sigh)

Love Lynne


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Hawker
Date: 08 May 06 - 06:18 AM

Bracken is a good name methinks, but like you say the right name will come to you.
Cheers, Lucy


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Blowzabella
Date: 08 May 06 - 07:01 AM

I got a rescue collie last January, Lynne - when we got him he was between 6 7 8 months old. His name at the kennels was 'Bodie' but that just made me think of The Professionals - and it didn't seem to suit him one bit! he's now just Beau - which seems a lot more appropriate - or perhaps it's Bo (as in Peep, who has lost his sheep??). He gets called all sorts as in 'bloody hell bo' (or el-bo); bim-bo; dum-bo; and his detective alter ego - 'colom-bo'!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: MBSLynne
Date: 08 May 06 - 07:26 AM

Oooh yes! I like Bracken! We'll see if it fits her when she gets here

Love Lynne


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Blowzabella
Date: 08 May 06 - 08:00 AM

Moss?


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Ella who is Sooze
Date: 08 May 06 - 09:54 AM

Fab news Lynne.

EWIS


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: webfolk
Date: 08 May 06 - 01:48 PM

hi Lynne.
I have just bought myself a black lab, collect her on 20th and she will be called Polly
I'm told names wise you should choose one with two sylables so as to distinguish between the name and the one sylable commands, ie sit, stay, down, no, heel, etc

Geoff from Bit on the Side
new album available - running through the heart


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: MBSLynne
Date: 08 May 06 - 02:11 PM

Trouble is Geoff, even if you give the dog a two syllable name it tends to get shortened to one anyway. I don't subscribe to the theory that you need one syllable commands anyway. I think dogs understand quite a large human vocabulary and it isn't, as some people say, the sound of the word rather than the word itself. Our last dogs had a three syllable command.."Piano". That's sounds quite posh, but we weren't telling them to be quiet. Their bed was under the piano. We also had the command "Hoover" which we used if anyone spilt anything on the floor and we wanted them to clean it up!

Love Lynne


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: webfolk
Date: 08 May 06 - 02:16 PM

I'm only passing on what I have read. my last dog (Tuli - pronounced toolie) who was also a black lab could mind read, for you only had to say the first part of a sentence and she knew the rest.
Do you want... ( to got for a walk) for example
the name is very personal - i nearly chose bracken myself, along with Maggie, bramble, Olive, Tinker, among others.

Geoff on the side


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Hawker
Date: 08 May 06 - 04:11 PM

Bramble, Hazel and Willow are also nice. I am not a great lover of ordinary names, Our dog, Hawker is named after a local eccentric vicar from history who invented the Harvest Festival, he is reputed to have excommunicated his cat for catching mice on a Sunday! The dog we had before this one, was a Manchester Terrier, as he was the 'cream of Manchester' we named him Boddington!

Cheers, Lucy


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: GUEST,Texas Guest
Date: 08 May 06 - 10:38 PM

We were looking for a golden retriever a few years back and found a
lady who was giving a 1yr old away. I asked her what his name was and she said, "Murphy." Since I'm a singer of Irish folk songs I told her we'd be there in forty-five minutes. I can only say that
Murphy is a wonderful dog. We took him to the North Texas Irish Festival last year and I swear he was the hit of the festival. My wife had her hands full though for while I was on stage performing Murph insisted on barking and trying to get up on stage. Personally, I would have loved to have him come up but at festivals there's just so much activity he doesn't settle down - otherwise he is an extremely
well behaved and obedient dog. We're partial to goldens in this house but border collies come in at a strong second followed by labs. Enjoy your critter. Cheers.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: bobad
Date: 08 May 06 - 10:46 PM

A site with classic Border Collie Names http://www.gis.net/~shepdog/BC_Museum/Permanent/BC_Names.html

I've had two, Pip and currently Gyp - I like the one syllable names.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 09 May 06 - 12:36 AM

LOYALTY - American Stafford Pit-Bull Terrier (brindled red-nose)



SMART - Golden Retreiver/Labrador mixed no trick, (including swimming UNDER water) this dog could not learn.

STUPID - Low maintenace Sharpae (no shedding-and you can spin their brushings into yarn for sweaters.)

ANNOYING - Dauschunds and Chiwawawas

FUN-Odd - Newfoundler - get them around water and watch the fun. Their fur is hollow like reindeer and spin well into yarn for sweaters.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: MBSLynne
Date: 09 May 06 - 02:50 AM

Cool site Bobad! Thanks. I like the idea of a traditional collie name and had thought of Meg, Fly, Gyp and others. I also like the botanical names. Bracken is probably still leading at the moment. I wish I had as much imagination as you Lucy...I'd love to come up with a totally appropriate name like those.

My last two dogs aquired names without my intervention. I had a lab bitch named Kelly (She was Ancalagon the black from Tolkein's writings). She had puppies and the night before they were born I dreamt she had four puppies....three black dogs and a bitch with brown markings called Piccola (Little one) That's exactly what she did have so obviously I had to call the little girl Piccola, which was shortened to Piccy. She in turn had pups and the one I kept was Acorn (they all had botanical names) but he was the runt and such a little scrap he was always called Scrappy.

Love Lynne


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: Dave Earl
Date: 09 May 06 - 04:21 AM

Although I don't keep a dog anymore I have had several in the past.

We have a theory in our family regarding dog names:-

There are only two names - If it's male it's called Ben if its female its called Bess.

The idea actually came from my grandfather who had dogs for all of his life. The logic behind it seems to be that it is easier for the dog to learn it's name if it is a single syllable that can be pronounced clearly.

Also my brothers and I only saw granddad infrequently and often it would be a different dog so we only had to know whether it was a boy or a girl to know what the name was.

That was how it was explained to me.

Dave


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: GUEST,JTT
Date: 09 May 06 - 07:58 PM

Heavens, hollow fur! I knew Newfies had webbed feet, but hollow fur! Wow!

My own dog is a borderline collie (a touch of lab in there) and bossy but loving. Collies only get nervy if they don't have work to do. They love to work.

One request - please don't buy pedigree dogs. Several nasty pup farms have been busted in recent months in Ireland. As long as people buy pedigree dogs, this horrible trade will go on.

(If you must buy a pedigree dog, make sure that you meet the pup with its mother, and that they are clearly in a good relationship with each other. But I just wouldn't have a pedigree pup because of the farms, and because they're too overbred nowadays - it's cruel.)

If you want a good book for training your pup, go for Don't Shoot the Dog by Karen Pryor. Very funny book, and a great training method, for animals or people.


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Subject: RE: BS: Looking for a dog
From: MBSLynne
Date: 10 May 06 - 02:49 AM

Mostly I agree with you JTT, but it does depend to some extent what the dog has been bred for. Nothing wrong with pedigree working dogs such as labs and collies. However, there are so many abandoned and lost dogs in need of homes I can't see any good reason most of the time, to buy a pedigree.

My Mum once had a boyfriend whose mother kept samoyeds and spun their fur. She used to send him samoyed-hair jumpers!

Dave..I like the name Bess. It's now one of the fore runners in the name stakes

Love Lynne


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