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BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism

GUEST 05 Feb 06 - 02:24 PM
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GUEST,Wesley S 05 Feb 06 - 03:14 PM
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CarolC 05 Feb 06 - 10:52 PM
Arne 06 Feb 06 - 12:03 AM
CarolC 06 Feb 06 - 12:52 AM
Greg F. 06 Feb 06 - 11:27 AM
Wesley S 06 Feb 06 - 01:12 PM
Little Hawk 06 Feb 06 - 01:14 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 02:24 PM

You're dilusional.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 02:46 PM

Worth seeing and hearing.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 03:13 PM

"Anyone with any common sense, and based on the enormous amout of supportive PMs I get..."

Martin Gibson is a liar and a coward. And his supporters are cowards too if they only support him in PM's. If they DID start crawling out of the woodwork that would be something else. But until they do it's all just a pack of lies.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Wesley S
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 03:14 PM

I apologise for that last post.

I forgot to sign my name.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 04:01 PM

I think you can count the supportive PMs Martin Gibson gets on the fingers of (look, Ma!) no hands. Anything he posts, it's more than appropriate to keep it in the BS threads.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: Once Famous
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 04:09 PM

Not true. The REAL truth is out there. And you know it.

And Wesley S. still needs to have the guilt he feels addressed by a professional. I am not his problem. He is his own worst problem and at this point, I almost consider him to be dangerous.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 04:16 PM

No, I DON'T know it. I don't believe you, Martin. Prove it.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Wesley S
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 04:19 PM

He can't guest. Leave the poor guy alone. He's scared.It would destroy his fantasy would if he had to provide facts.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 04:28 PM

True, Wesley. It's all the poor slob has got.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: Once Famous
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 05:22 PM

I have proved it by your response of denial, which has zero credibility.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: GUEST,dianavan
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 05:27 PM

Thanks, Guest 2:46 for that heart breaking link.

Watching it makes me wonder if Martin and the other apologists feel proud of the misery they have caused and whether they believe these people are happier now that America has 'freed' Iraq.

Take a look, Martin, and comment if you dare. C'mon, I want to see what kind of man you really are.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 05:32 PM

"I have proved it by your response of denial, which has zero credibility."

What the hell does THAT mean? Speak English, you twit!

You've proved NOTHING except that you're a pathetic gas bag.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: Once Famous
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 06:51 PM

I've proved that you are an asshole, Guest. That was easy. I will not reveal the many who have snet me PMs who trust me and I trust them.

Dianavan, I am more man than a dried up old hag like you could ever handle! You are broke and cannot be fixed.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: CarolC
Date: 05 Feb 06 - 10:52 PM

I agree, Joe, that moderates need to be supported. That's what I do (and have been doing) in threads like this one.

Carole writes "One of these things is sending my tax dollars to Israel for the purpose of killing and ethnically cleansing Palestinians."
Please Carole - what a crock- why waste your time spouting off obvious propaganda nonesense.


I think you're the one who is spouting propaganda nonesense. What I said is completely true, and can be proven, as I have done many, many times here in the Mudcat already.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: Arne
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 12:03 AM

'Martin Gibson':

Arne, you are truly a moron. You were the one ranting about fine cognac. I am merely suggesting what you can do with it.

Oh, nonsense. Anyone that knows how to use a scroll bar (and I'll reserve judgement WRT you on that) can easily see what you said. Go on, put on the brave face, but you're "truly a moron" if you think this last missive of yours is gonna fly..... It would seem, as one wag here has noted, that I'd be best off not taking your advice on that subject ... or on any one, for that matter.

* * * * *

Now, I do believe you own me an apology (if you can manage the scroll bar operation). You accused me of a rather vile character trait, one that I do not possess. I do think it's time you apologised. Or put forward evidence to back your accusation (of which there is none). Absent that, I do think that a request to the Mudcat proprietors for a deletion of your comment[s] is in order.

Cheers,


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: CarolC
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 12:52 AM

Right, Israel controls the United States. President Bush takes his marching orders from the Jews.

I didn't say "the Jews". I said, the "Israel first" lobby. Some of the people who comprise that lobby are Jews, but hardly all of them. There are many fundamentalist Christians in that lobby as well. And certainly not all Jews are represented by that lobby. Many, in fact, are not.

What CarolC does not tell you is that Benjamin Netanyahu is now an opposition politician in Israel. According to the polls, he his party will probably come in third, behind Labor, and way behind Kadima, in the upcoming Israeli election.

Well, since I saw/heard him say that before we invaded Iraq, when Netanyahu was not in opposition, I don't really see how your point is relevant.

CarolC's false claim that Netanyahu speaks for Israel is as spurious as saying that Senator Clinton speaks for George W. Bush.

It's hardly just Netanyahu. Many members of the Bush administration, who also serve in Israeli think tanks, have stated quite openly that a US invasion and occupation of Iraq is in Israel's interest. Here's one of their policy papers...

http://www.israeleconomy.org/strat1.htm

"Israel can shape its strategic environment, in cooperation with Turkey and Jordan, by weakening, containing, and even rolling back Syria. This effort can focus on removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq â€" an important Israeli strategic objective in its own right"

That paper was co-authored by Richard Perle, James Colbert, Charles Fairbanks, Jr., Douglas Feith, Robert Loewenberg, David Wurmser, and Meyrav Wurmser.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: Greg F.
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 11:27 AM

Query: Is it simple masochism that makes some folks continue to engage Farty Marty because they actually get some sort of perverse enjoyment out of being abused by a foul-mouthed moron?

What gives? Pounding salt down a rat-hole would be more productive.

Save yourselves some aggro: listen to old Don Rickles recordings & pretend you're in the audience. At least Don was clever.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: Wesley S
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 01:12 PM

C'mon Greg - we're just having some fun with the old boy. It's kind of like bothering the old toothless dog down the road. You know he's harmless so you rattle sticks at him just to see him bark. Maybe it is a bit cruel after all.

And all those messages of support that have been "snet" to Martin ? I guess you could call spam offering penial implants as "messages of support" but I think that's stretching it a bit.

PS - How can you tell that Martin Gibson is lying ?

Answer - His lips are moving.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 01:14 PM

"Rollin', rollin', rollin'...keep them dogies rollin', Rawhide!"


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: Wesley S
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 01:18 PM

Don't try to understand them - just rope, throw and brand them.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: Wesley S
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 01:25 PM

Here's a link to a site with all of the song lyrics of Dimitri Thomkin's music

http://www.geocities.com/karamaev/songs.html


Theme From Rawhide
Music by Dimitri Tiompkin - Lyrics by Ned Washington

Rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin'
Rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin', Rawhide!

Rollin', rollin', rollin', though the streams are swollen
Keep them dogies rollin', Rawhide.
Rain and wind and weather, hellbent for leather
Wishin' my gal was by my side.
All the things I'm missin', good fiddles, love & kissin'
Are waiting at the end of my ride.

Chorus:
Move 'em on, head 'em up, Head 'em up, move 'em on
Move 'em on, head 'em up, Rawhide!
Count 'em out, ride 'em in, ride 'em in, count 'em out
Count 'em out, ride 'em in, Rawhide!

Keep movin', movin', movinU
Though they're disapprovin'
Keep them dogies movin', Rawhide
Don't try to understand 'em,
Just rope 'em, pull and brand 'em
Soon we'll be living high and wide
My hearts calculatin'
My true love will be waitin'
Be waitin' at the end of my ride

Chorus
Hyaa!
Rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin' (Hyaa!)
Rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin' (Hyaa!)
Rawhide! Rawhide!


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 01:25 PM

No agro on this side, Greg. Toss a mild bard or word or two indicating a bit of doubt Martin Gibson's way and he reacts by throwing a barrage of smut-mouthed insults and sprays great gobbets of spittle. From his typos and linguistic screw-ups, he reveals that his response is all bile and no brain. Goad him a bit and he reveals exactly what he is.

If he can validly claim that he's received any PMs supporting him, then I can validly claim that I'm the Supreme God of the Universe.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: Little Hawk
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 01:29 PM

Here's the whole danged song...and more!

Rawhide

Check out that young Clint Eastwood.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: Once Famous
Date: 06 Feb 06 - 09:28 PM

You are not the supreme God of the universe, Guest. Just a piece of fecal matter, that's all.

Guests have no friends and get zero PMs. They just continue to belittle the forum.

The agitated guests are just some of the regulars on this forum so bent out of shape and so full of hate that with all of the same usual ones giving me a hard time, they just don't realize that it just keeps getting easier and easier to figure out who they are.

Wesley, have you done as I wisely suggested and met with a professional about your on-going guilt that you blame me for?

Arne, I apologize for not suggesting to change that cognac to Jack Daniels for that enema you need. Otherwise, have a very nice evening.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Arne Langsetmo (OTR)
Date: 07 Feb 06 - 12:02 AM

'Martin Gibson':

Arne, I apologize for not ....

You misspelled "I'm not apologising..."

You accused me of "hatred of Jews" (and of Israel). A rather vile accusation, given the historical background of such hatreds, with no basis in fact (the alleged "hatred" of Israel is likewise unsupported). If you had half a brain to think (or even to read), you'd know that was the subject of my request for an apology. Go on, blow it off again, but you'll just demonstrate why it is you that is the vilest one here, and why anyone in their right mind ought to have an extreme distaste for your spewings....

Cheers,


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: GUEST,dianavan
Date: 07 Feb 06 - 12:49 AM

When Martin starts using 'potty talk', you know that you have pushed his buttons and that he is highly offended. What he doesn't realize is that when he reveals himself this way, everything he has said previously just gets flushed down the toilet because nobody really cares what he has to say anymore.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: Ron Davies
Date: 07 Feb 06 - 06:59 AM

He's already told us--more than once-- that for him Mudcat is just a means to kill time and yank chains. As I've mentioned elsewhere, that tells us exactly how seriously to take anything he says. He has thereby insured that that he has absolutely no credibility---- on this or any other topic--with the possibly exception of guitars, and, as I've mentioned before, I suspect he's shaky on that also.

He also has informed us that he is "dehumanized every day".

As I also said elsewhere--the process is complete.

And, what's more, nobody had to lift a finger to do it to him---he performed the honors himself.

OK, "Martin", I've had my say.   I can hardly wait for your calm reasoned reply.

And, regardless of what you say, I'll have no further comment on this thread--which, considering the originator, was doomed from the start.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: Once Famous
Date: 07 Feb 06 - 08:29 PM

And you Arne and Ron are yanked again for the one millionth time. I've been counting.

This thread has had great response as has my other one, Ron.

Arne, you have come across as pretty unsupportive of Israel and the Jews. FLAME is an organization that addresses anti-semitism disguised as anti-zionism amongst an ultra liberal faction. The purpose of this thread is to see who agrees and who doesn't. And for that, an apology will not probably happen. Deal with it.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Arne Langsetmo (OTR)
Date: 08 Feb 06 - 06:21 PM

'Martin Gibson':

And you Arne and Ron are yanked again for the one millionth time. I've been counting.

Seems you misspelled "flamed", 'Martin'. Seems you have an interesting definition of "yanked". To you it seems to mean that you spout your mouth off with slurs and insults, and somehow count it as a feather in your cap when someone responds. You know, 'Martin', my niece then was the perfect "yanker" a while back when she was only a couple of years old; screaming and putting on outrageous shows until someone "responded" (usually by sending her to a time-out where she could exult for a while at the attention she got).

But one might just as easily make the argument -- if "responses" are what constitues the hallmark of success regardless of the form of response -- that you have yourself been yanked many a time. N'est ce pas?

Arne, you have come across as pretty unsupportive of Israel and the Jews.

Ummm, which "Jews"? Anyone in specific you had in mind?

But I'd point out that rational people find a clear distinction between lack of blind and complete support for someone (or something) and "hatred" of the same. Really. Hate to belabour the obvious seeing as it's been pointed out to you previously many a time, but maybe rote repetition actually might have some effect ... albeit as long as not directed at a zucchini.

Cheers,


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: Once Famous
Date: 08 Feb 06 - 09:07 PM

The majority, Arne. The ones you have no idea who you are talking about. The Jews you hate so much it appears.

Keep at it, Arne. Your hole is so deep, it's pretty hard to see you already. I stopped listening and reading your hate already some time ago.

Arne, why don't you join AIPAC? I did. One of the biggest organizations of it's kind.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Arne Langsetmo (OTR)
Date: 09 Feb 06 - 11:45 AM

'Martin Gibson':

The majority, Arne....

Nonsense. I don't "hate" faceless, nameless, unspecified people. By your thinking, if I walked into a room of 100 Jews I'd never seen, I'd have to "hate" some 63 of them picked at random (and not "hate" the rest). The absurdity is obvious, and your insinuation that I do such a thing is vile. Perhaps this is how you go about your "hating" business, but I retain some vestiges of rationality and humanity. That being said, you'd be hard pressed to name any "majority" of Jews that I "hate" (you might try starting with a sample size of one, 'Martin', but you should be aware that I don't hate you ... I simply have less respect for you than I do for a snarling, rabid dog).

Arne, why don't you join AIPAC? I did. One of the biggest organizations of it's kind.

Did you join, 'Martin'? Maybe we can expect some peace and quiet around here when they frog-march you out, eh? You can spend some 'quality time' with Larry, Steve, and Keith then....

Cheers,


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: GUEST,AR282
Date: 09 Feb 06 - 12:55 PM

Marty thinks that if he throws out acronyms as URJ and AIPAC that he will sound knowledgeable. He doesn't count on people doing any research. He thinks everybody goes off as half-cocked as he does.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Feb 06 - 04:57 PM

FLAME is non-profit organization that collects money and uses it to run "advertorial" style essays concerning Israel in many Jewish publications. It is run by Gerardo Joffe, who you may not know by name, but is regarded as being one of the top direct marketing mavens--he started Haverhill's. and later sold it to Time/Life, and currently sells "Cosmomaut Watches" on line--

At any rate, Gerardo specializes in writing compelling direct marketing letters--and his business at FLAME consists of writing alarming fundraising letters aimed at wringing contributions out of little old ladies, and apparently, Martin--he's been at it since 1987--last year it was about $950,000--

Gerardo points out, at the FLAME website, that he takes no salary, nor does anyone else. To prove he is telling you the truth, he also shows you financial statements--his accounting categories vary wildly from year to year, as do the expenditures.

The organization currently spends about $300-400k per year on comissionable advertising. Any guesses on who gets the commissions? And between $30-50k on direct marketing services(gosh, who do you suppose that they hire to do that?) And between $35,000 and $150k per year (depending on the year-it goes up every year) to repay loans to Gerardo and his wife--funny that the loan money never showed up in any of the financials--

None of nearly one million dollars that the raised last year went to Israel--though a big chunk of it seems to have gone into a Smith Barney investment account--Gotta hand it to you, Martin--you sure know how to pick em"---


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: M.Ted
Date: 09 Feb 06 - 05:01 PM

Sorry, lost my cookie--that report above was me--


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Feb 06 - 05:20 PM

Martin Gibson claims to work for a 'major corporation.' Could it be that THIS is he works for?


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: Wesley S
Date: 09 Feb 06 - 05:53 PM

Believing anything Martin says will get you nowhere. He is a figment of his own imagination.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: CarolC
Date: 09 Feb 06 - 07:00 PM

Would it be in entirely bad taste for me to utter a hearty guffaw at this particular point in the life of this thread?

;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: Once Famous
Date: 10 Feb 06 - 11:33 PM

Guest, I know for a fact that the investment in FLAME goes to the cause for Israel. I am a lot closer to the scene than you are and more than you just might realize.

So try and discredit all you want. The ones in the know expect your type of approach, and have plenty of money and clout to offset it and counter it, while you have very little.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: Ron Davies
Date: 10 Feb 06 - 11:49 PM

Certainly is fascinating that, according to M Ted's research, of the almost $1 million FLAME raised last year, none of it went to Israel.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: Ron Davies
Date: 11 Feb 06 - 12:01 AM

"A fool and his money..."


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: Peace
Date: 11 Feb 06 - 12:18 AM

Financial Reports: 1999-2004


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 11 Feb 06 - 03:29 AM

Out of $945,038 only $10,000 went to philanthropy?

Martin's a bigger fool than I thought he was.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: Teribus
Date: 11 Feb 06 - 04:50 AM

FLAME's purpose is:

". . . the research and publication of the facts regarding developments in the Middle East and exposing false propaganda that might harm the interests of the United States and its allies in that area of the world."

That was taken from this organisation's declared mission statement.

This, GUEST 09 Feb 06 - 04:57 PM, ties in with what you say in your opening sentence:

"FLAME is non-profit organization that collects money and uses it to run "advertorial" style essays concerning Israel in many Jewish publications."

From the financial statements produced the organisation seems to spend about 50% of it's income specifically on the that purpose (A bit better than the 10% that OXFAM used to manage to deliver on it's specific purpose)

Now considering the organisation's stated purpose GUEST, why would any of the money raised be "sent to Israel"?

As to who gets commission, who is hired for direct marketing - I don't know. If you do, then name them, your post only makes allegations, at present you are merely running a smear campaign.

The opening sentence of your last paragraph about the lack of money going to Israel is spin, it is also disinformation as it plants in the minds of the reader that FLAME sets itself out to be a charitable/philanthropic organisation, which of course it is not. If you don't believe me then here are some examples of those your lie deceived:

Ron Davies - 10 Feb 06 - 11:49 PM

GUEST - 11 Feb 06 - 03:29 AM

While CarolC is busy packing, moving and guffawing she can ponder on the progress the cash strapped Palestinian Authority is making trying to recoup the $300 million plus appropriated from their treasury by the late Tosser Arafat.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: CarolC
Date: 11 Feb 06 - 09:12 AM

More worrying still is all the money the Palestinians pay in taxes that Israel is saying they're now going to steal from them (blackmail). And also the millions of dollars worth of Palestinian infrastructure (schools, government buildings, hospitals, etc., paid for by the US taxpayers) that Israel has bombed to smithereens over the last several years.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: Once Famous
Date: 11 Feb 06 - 08:52 PM

FLAME is an honest organization wherever the money goes. It is not making 1 guy rich.

Denouncing this organization is just another anti-semitic/anti-Jewish jab.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: artbrooks
Date: 11 Feb 06 - 09:30 PM

Sure, MG...and an honest historian writing about Myer Lansky and Murder, Inc. is also an anti-semite, right?


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: Once Famous
Date: 11 Feb 06 - 09:50 PM

Mayer Lansky was a gangster. You can be any type of historian to know that fact. However,he is irrelevant to this conversation.

A stretch on your part to just try and smear an organization that is having much more success at rightfully smearing left wing anti-semitism against Israel.


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: Arne
Date: 12 Feb 06 - 06:57 PM

'Martin':

A stretch on your part to just try and smear an organization that is having much more success at rightfully smearing left wing anti-semitism against Israel.

Oh, so that's where the money goes. Glad you straightened that up, 'Martin'.   ;-) Goodness knows there's plenty of need nowadays for "rightful" smear jobs.... Say, 'Martin', doesn't that cut into their spying budget a bit?

Cheers,


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: M.Ted
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 03:58 PM

The issues that I brought up are fair and reasonable questions--I simply looked the "FLAME" website--based on that information, there are serious legal, moral, and ethical questions about the way that the organization collects and spends it's money.

Since some of this money may be yours, Martin, I would think that you would be very interested to know how the money is spent, and whether it is acceptable under federal law.

And, Martin, please understand that I don't necessarily disagree with all the ideas that are expressed in the FLAME articles(I don't necessarily agree with them all, either)--But I wonder who really benefits from all the money that is spent on them.

Think about this--why spend all that money advocating for Israel in Jewish newspapers? It's what the Goyim call "Preaching to the Choir"--


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Subject: RE: BS: FLAME and radical liberal anti-semitism
From: Once Famous
Date: 13 Feb 06 - 10:21 PM

M Ted, if you are so interested in where all of that big Jewish money goes, I suggest you go to court and file a lawsuit and command an audit.

Otherwise, speculation is for playing the horses.

I think there are some dedicated people who believe in the work they are doing in the FLAME organization.


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