BS: Emergency, Quakers on Mudcat

Subject: RE: BS: Emergency, Quakers on Mudcat
From: Once Famous
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 09:46 PM

I had some Quaker oatmeal for breakfast today.

Subject: RE: BS: Emergency, Quakers on Mudcat
From: SunnySister
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 11:29 PM

I look for news every day and don't know if I should be hopeful or in despair for these men. I can only slightly image how their families feel.

I have sat outside an operating room, counting the minutes; I have sat next to a dear one who was taking their last breaths. Each breath, I felt my heart hit something hard and scared as I waited and watched for another intake and exhale, holding my breath in a dance of time, and anxiousness.

With that said how must their loved ones feel faced each day with the knowing that those they love and who love mankind and peace may be tortured and horribly murdered for their kind and true hearts?

As I say, each day I wait for news. Each day I wonder what more I can to speak in tones of peace these men have sang.

Lor, please know you are also in my thoughts.

---SunnySister

Subject: RE: BS: Emergency, Quakers on Mudcat
From: Ebbie
Date: 19 Dec 05 - 11:43 PM

There is now film footage of the execution of the man from Anchorage Alaska (originally from North Dakota) but that should be no indicator of any such planned fate for these four peaceworkers. The Alaska man was accused of being part of the Security detail although his family says that he was a mechanical engineer.

The four peaceworkers are being held by a different faction, and surely there has been enough outcry - including by some Iraqis - of their innocence that there is cause for hope.

{{{{{ Hug for Lorcan }}}}

Ebbie

Subject: RE: BS: Emergency, Quakers on Mudcat
From: Tannywheeler
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 10:28 AM

Sunnysister, if they are murdered it will not be for their kind and true hearts. It will be for the blocks of angry, vicious rock in the chests of their captors. Pray for the changing of THOSE hearts. There's a prayer in the old (1928) Book of Common Prayer (Episcopal church) that starts: "Almighty God, who desireth not the death of a sinner, but rather that he may turn from his wickeness and live..." It's one I think of and invoke frequently these days...Tw

Subject: RE: BS: Emergency, Quakers on Mudcat
From: Donuel
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 11:01 AM

Paul Burke and in OBU,
I am honored to know you if only in the internet virtual sense, for the work and words you promote in the name of PEACE.

Subject: RE: BS: Emergency, Quakers on Mudcat
From: Paul Burke
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 12:35 PM

I don't know what I did to deserve that, Donuel.

The German archaeologist was released. Let's hope for the best for the others.

Subject: RE: BS: Emergency, Quakers on Mudcat
From: SunnySister
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 12:42 PM

Tannywheeler- You are very right! I am thinking of them too. How must it be to carry that much anger and hatred around???

Thanks for reminding me of that prospective as well.

--- SunnySister

Subject: RE: BS: Emergency, Quakers on Mudcat
From: robomatic
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 01:52 PM

Tannywheeler I am familiar with your prayer from the identical version of it in Hebrew.

I am very sad and upset to learn of the death of the Alaskan who was shot in cold blood. I hope the other captives make it out alive.

Subject: RE: BS: Emergency, Quakers on Mudcat
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Dec 05 - 06:09 PM

"...these people knew what they were getting into. It is too bad but they are way too naive." A comment that might very apprpriately be applied to the people who set in train the invasion of Iraq. But they have made sure to sit safely out of harm's way, and leave the dying to others.

Subject: RE: BS: Emergency, Quakers on Mudcat
From: Peace
Date: 22 Dec 05 - 04:32 PM

"It's always the old who lead us to the wars;
It's always the young who fall . . .".

Phil Ochs

Subject: RE: BS: Emergency, Quakers on Mudcat
From: Ebbie
Date: 23 Dec 05 - 01:38 AM

Still keeping these men in my heart and consciousness.

Subject: RE: BS: Emergency, Quakers on Mudcat
From: InOBU
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 08:40 AM

Dear All... I just got back from a few days runing about Bucks and Lancaster County... it is so nice to see that our Friends are so in your prayers...

And dear old friend Robomatic... as to dieing in the wrongs side of a war... the older I get the more I realize there is no right side of a war, but there is definatly two wrongs sides.

I will remind you that not a single death camp was liberated, unless the American or Alied armies ran across it... we all knew where they were and what they were, and no rail lines were bombed, and the so called right side destroyed the lives of the "premature anti facists... " right after the war...

I heard to elderly Jewish fellows at the great dinner, Odessa a few years ago. One was saying :
"You know, what I would do with BOTH sides in the middle east? I'd tell them stop it. Go to your rooms... both of you!"
The other fellow, " Well the Arabs started it with... "
"Don't tell me that! " The first said... " When your kids are acting up, fighting, do you ask who started it? No! You tell them, Go to your room and stop fighting, stay there till you can behave! That's what I would tell BOTH! No Levi Jeans! No Nike Sneakers! NOTHING! GO TO YOUR ROOMS! "

Beleive what you want about sides, dear fellow, war is the only enamy.
We can no longer afford war. As you see the melting of the ice caps, and the drownings of polar bears, extinctions don't stop with one species we can fight over who is right and who is wrong until we all die, or we can stand in the way of war... and if that becomes the solution, we live. simple as that.

Merry Christmas, Joyful New Year, Happy Kwansa, Happy Chanukah, Peaceful Ramadan, Boutiful Davali, and good Festivus for the restofus,

Peace
lor

Subject: RE: BS: Emergency, Quakers on Mudcat
From: SINSULL
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 08:54 AM

Ahhhh but you forget, InObu. Festivus involves a test of strength fight between father and son. Same old. Same old.
Very strange but my inner self tells me that these men are at peace, not dead necessarily, but at peace in their hearts. No fear.

Subject: RE: BS: Emergency, Quakers on Mudcat
From: InOBU
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 12:20 PM

Mary, you refect a message that came to me, and I delivered at Meeting a few First Days ago, about what it is to walk through the shaddow of the vally of death and fear no evil...
It is not to be devoid of the human fears and concerns for our lives and families, but as you say, to be at peace with those who believe that they wish to do you harm. In fact, often it is not you, but you as a symbol they wish to harm, just as we are killing many over their as symbols, but real flesh and blood and pain and fear results ... but, that to be at peace, to be without fear of evil in all that, is to fill that void of evil with love, and I know, ( not am sure... ) I know, that Tom and his friends are filling that void of evil with love, whatever the outcome, they fear no evil.

Peace and joy this Christmas season
lor

Subject: RE: BS: Emergency, Quakers on Mudcat
From: gnu
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 12:55 PM

Again... beautifully put, lor and others. Thoughts and prayers continue.

Subject: RE: BS: Emergency, Quakers on Mudcat
From: Ebbie
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 01:56 PM

Sinsull and Lor's last two posts are my "reading" for today. Thank you both.

Subject: RE: BS: Emergency, Quakers on Mudcat
From: jacqui.c
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 02:20 PM

Very much so Ebbie.

Subject: RE: BS: Emergency, Quakers on Mudcat
From: KT
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 07:21 PM

Lor, I'm so glad to read your post and the confidence you express in their peace of heart. That is what I have been praying for since hearing of their ordeal, and will continue to do so. I can only imagine the strength of spirit one must posess to attain that state.
In gratitude for all who work for peace,
KT

Subject: RE: BS: Emergency, Quakers on Mudcat
From: Peace
Date: 27 Dec 05 - 07:50 PM

Ditto that.

Subject: RE: BS: Emergency, Quakers on Mudcat
From: Janie
Date: 10 Mar 06 - 10:19 PM

I am so very saddened to learn the death of Tom Fox has been confirmed. I continue to hope and pray for the all those who are hostage, especially the other three members of the CPT in Iraq.

Condolences to Mr. Fox's family and all who loved him. He was truly a peacemaker. May the seeds he planted bloom in the hearts of many.

Janie

Subject: RE: BS: Emergency, Quakers on Mudcat
From: Peace
Date: 10 Mar 06 - 10:21 PM

Well said, Janie.

Subject: RE: BS: Emergency, Quakers on Mudcat
From: Janie
Date: 10 Mar 06 - 10:33 PM

Here is the link the CPT release regarding the death of Mr. Fox.

http://www.cpt.org/iraq/response/06-10-03statement.htm

Subject: RE: BS: Emergency, Quakers on Mudcat
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Mar 06 - 10:38 PM

The man who hanged the Quaker martyr, Mary Dyer, becamed convinced of our faith by her gentle bravery. As I think of Tom, I think of Mary Dyer and pray for all responcible for his death.
lor

Subject: RE: BS: Emergency, Quakers on Mudcat
From: Naemanson
Date: 11 Mar 06 - 07:45 PM

Good luck, Larry. I honor your effort to save the live of your fellow Friend and grieve with you that he was not spared.

Subject: RE: BS: Emergency, Quakers on Mudcat
From: GUEST,dianavan
Date: 12 Mar 06 - 01:05 PM

I am saddened by the death of a soldier for Peace.

His mission was no less significant than the death of a military soldier.

His bravery will be a light for all of us who want a peaceful world.