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Catholic Priest clears his chest

Big Al Whittle 21 Oct 06 - 08:04 AM
ard mhacha 03 Nov 05 - 10:16 AM
Divis Sweeney 03 Nov 05 - 10:05 AM
Big Al Whittle 03 Nov 05 - 09:24 AM
Keith A of Hertford 03 Nov 05 - 09:02 AM
Den 03 Nov 05 - 08:59 AM
Big Al Whittle 03 Nov 05 - 08:41 AM
Keith A of Hertford 03 Nov 05 - 05:16 AM
GUEST,Tír Chonaill 02 Nov 05 - 11:49 AM
Keith A of Hertford 02 Nov 05 - 03:19 AM
GUEST,Tír Chonaill 01 Nov 05 - 09:14 PM
Divis Sweeney 01 Nov 05 - 01:57 PM
Epona 01 Nov 05 - 01:28 PM
Epona 01 Nov 05 - 01:02 PM
Keith A of Hertford 01 Nov 05 - 12:30 PM
GUEST 01 Nov 05 - 11:23 AM
Divis Sweeney 01 Nov 05 - 08:16 AM
Keith A of Hertford 01 Nov 05 - 07:23 AM
Keith A of Hertford 01 Nov 05 - 07:22 AM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 01 Nov 05 - 05:12 AM
Epona 01 Nov 05 - 05:01 AM
Epona 01 Nov 05 - 04:53 AM
Divis Sweeney 01 Nov 05 - 04:45 AM
Keith A of Hertford 01 Nov 05 - 04:25 AM
GUEST,Ahmed Byrne 01 Nov 05 - 03:47 AM
Keith A of Hertford 01 Nov 05 - 03:20 AM
Divis Sweeney 31 Oct 05 - 07:21 PM
Epona 31 Oct 05 - 07:08 PM
Keith A of Hertford 31 Oct 05 - 02:40 PM
GUEST,Tommy Mc Garrell 31 Oct 05 - 12:51 PM
Divis Sweeney 31 Oct 05 - 12:34 PM
Divis Sweeney 31 Oct 05 - 12:25 PM
Divis Sweeney 31 Oct 05 - 12:22 PM
Wolfgang 31 Oct 05 - 08:43 AM
Keith A of Hertford 31 Oct 05 - 08:21 AM
GUEST 29 Oct 05 - 01:21 PM
GUEST,Laurence Menary 29 Oct 05 - 09:35 AM
GUEST,Kieran Mc Conville 29 Oct 05 - 04:17 AM
GUEST,Tommy Mc Garrell 29 Oct 05 - 04:05 AM
Jimmy C 29 Oct 05 - 12:45 AM
Epona 28 Oct 05 - 08:25 PM
GUEST 28 Oct 05 - 08:13 PM
GUEST,Tommy Mc Garrell 28 Oct 05 - 08:01 PM
Epona 28 Oct 05 - 07:18 PM
GUEST,Tommy Mc Garrell 28 Oct 05 - 05:46 PM
ard mhacha 28 Oct 05 - 04:58 PM
GUEST,Tommy Mc Garrell 28 Oct 05 - 03:48 PM
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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 21 Oct 06 - 08:04 AM

those Poles sneaking into church at the back....?


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: ard mhacha
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 10:16 AM

I would also have welcomed Keith into my Unit, it was Ward 4 City Hospital Belfast.


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 10:05 AM

There is no doubt weelittledrummer that you are a pacifist, we all welcome your posts. I would have welcomed you into my unit anytime !


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 09:24 AM

I'm sure the comapany would have been excellent!


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 09:02 AM

That was me wasn't it.
No excuse Weelittledrummer
Very sorry,
Keith (grovelling)


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Den
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 08:59 AM

Guilty by association WLD. That could have seen you do 16 years in the Kesh.


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 08:41 AM

I object to being put on a list as being pro IRA

just wanted to say that

feel free to carry on


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 03 Nov 05 - 05:16 AM

Yes, different schools of thought, and we will never agree will we?

I do not throw away your grievances like rubbish.
Nor do I throw away those of African Americans.
But they overcame, and overcame without murdering a single farmer because he had been a National Guard, or mother and child doing the daily shop.

Perhaps I am in denial.
I can see why you might be in denial. How could you live with the possibility that all the innocent blood on your hands was shed for no good purpose?

All ancient history now thank God.
Best wishes,
Keith.


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: GUEST,Tír Chonaill
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 11:49 AM

There is another school of thought, Keith that injustices would never have been overcome without it.

You throw away our grieviences like so much old rubbish, Keith, and being retrospectively optimistic as you always are, you fail to see where all of that non-violence got us.

The IRA were the tip of the iceberg.

You quote me in the first line of your post, and then proceed as if you have never read it.

You crowd are in the tertiary stages of denial, Keith. It would seem that the majority of the rest of the 'British' posters like yourself have gotten the message already.

Try and look at what happened, rather than relying on your own Hollywoodised version of it to keep you comforted in your old age, Keith. Your population will be a lot safer in the future if you heed this advice we give you.

You could be a lot further on but for the actions of that internationally reviled terrorist group with all its links to terror, sponsoring Loyalist Death Squads and their ilk.

The Nationalist people of the north of Ireland did not have the comfort of your patience; things were a bit more life or death up until the final ceasefire.

How many of us would you have been prepared to see ethnically cleansed before you would have said 'Enough'?

Like the rest of the apathetic 'British', probably all of us.

Don't talk wet, for Chrissakes


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 02 Nov 05 - 03:19 AM

disgusted at their (our) treatment by the over-classes since the statelet's inception, and suffered many, many injustices served upon them, silently

Another point of view is that those injustices could have been overcome much more quickly without killing a single father, mother or child.
That you could have been where you are now years ago but for the actions of that internationally reviled terrorist group with all its links to terror sponsoring Arab states like Gaddaffi's Libya, and other terrorist groups like the drug dealing Contras of Columbia.


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: GUEST,Tír Chonaill
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 09:14 PM

Any of you who think that the IRA was a minority force in Irish Nationalism have never explored the corollary of that argument; that the IRA was in fact only the tip of the much larger iceberg of resentment and anger that was, and to a very large degree still is, prevalent in Northern politics.

Resentment and anger that can make otherwise decent, law abiding people like the good aforementioned Reverend Father, vent their frustration in outbursts as has been discussed here.

Ordinary decent law-abiding Nationalists (as they are commonly known on this forum), far from just wanting "all this enmity to go away", Don, were absolutely disgusted at their (our) treatment by the over-classes since the statelet's inception, and suffered many, many injustices served upon them, silently.

The British are responsible for the IRA's resurrection from the ashes of 1969, and true to form cry 'Foul' at every mention of their name

'Own Goal' would be a much better analogy


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 01:57 PM

Wouldn't call myself anti Irish Keith. Thats not great company your keeping, thanks be to god my name appears in the lower list !


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Epona
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 01:28 PM

In all honesty, joking aside, I wish it wasn't about "them vs us". The truth is such: the North is embracing peace. I realize that there are some obvious holdouts (i.e. loyalists) but the struggle has moved to a different level. I am proud to be a Republican, but even more so, I'm proud to be Irish and that's what it comes down to. I don't feel the desire to strengthen my cultural pride by attacking others'. I like the uniqueness that each one of us has (and some of us are definitely more unique than others!)   Eventually, I hope that all Irish men and women will rediscover the love of their culture, language, and history instead of some seeing themselves as purely the defenders of "Ulster" and living under the control of a government that attempted to strip them off so much of their identity and heritage.

E


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Epona
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 01:02 PM

Christ, looks like I'm on the winning side! :)

E


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 12:30 PM

" Just a group of anti Irish looking to start a fight as far as I can see."

Funny how people see things different.

I see no anti Irish at all.
Myself, Flamenco Ted and Terribus anti IRA

and on the other side

Divis Sweeney
Tiocfaid
Den
Epona
Ahmed Byrne
Tommy McGarrel
kieran McConville
Lawrence Menary
Jimmy C
Ard Mhacha
Fiolaris
Clint
Tir Chonail
Akeneaton
Wee Little Drummer
and numerous nameless Guests


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 11:23 AM

I think its fair to say that his Priest's chest is well and truely cleared by now. Can you all let this one drop. For the last four weeks this poor priest hasn't even been mentioned ! Just a group of anti Irish looking to start a fight as far as I can see.
Jimmy McKeown


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 08:16 AM

I think she meant according to whats said on this site the toll wasn't higher ! What's the 300 ? Is that the answer to my unanswered questioned regarding the Blitz ?


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 07:23 AM

On subject of figures....
300


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 07:22 AM

Sweeney,
Re figures, on 28th Oct Epona wrote "Teri has been extraordinarily kind to use some figures Wolfgang provided, one of the figures being 2055 deaths in the North attributed to "Republican paramilitaries." And, if anyone can help me with my questions, I would be very thankful. "

I was the first to reply, after thread had expired.

Re success and killing, yesterday Epona wrote " I must say that I'm surprised the numbers attributed to the provos aren't higher. They weren't given the title of the most successful guerilla army ever for nothing"


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 05:12 AM

I never thought that I would find myself agreeing with any of the opinions expressed by Keith, but I do in this case.

Ahmed, you state as fact that the average Brit is anti Irish, then go on to point out that not every Irishman is born with a gun in his hand.

Can you really not see the inconsistency of those two statements?

You are making a wild, and unprovable generalisation about one side, and refuting a similar generalisation about the other.

You have no real knowledge or evidence to support your anti Irish claim, and equally there is nothing to suggest that the majority of the Irish hate Brits.

It is far more likely that the hatred exists in the extremist minority in both communities, and the rest just want all this enmity to go away.

It is this sort of comment that prevents the dialogue that would make that happen. The past is past, and it is the future that should exercise the minds of both sides, but this cannot happen until we stop pointing out the evil in one another, and start talking about what we can do together now.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Epona
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 05:01 AM

should say "guerilla army" and not just "guerilla". Or maybe it should just say "gorilla"? :) Running on very little sleep and off to a very, very early meeting. Enjoy your day!

E


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Epona
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 04:53 AM

I think this goes back to the two definitions of "British" that we had that other long thread about, Keith. That REALLY, REALLY long thread. Did I mention how long it was?! No interest in revisiting that anytime in the near future as I've got enough headaches to deal with at the moment :)

Keith, as far as judging success by numbers of fatal casualties, I've actually never thought about considering that. To be honest, I'm sure you were very much trained like I was because our armies are so similar that a mission's success is determined by several things, but, for me and my troops one of those things has never been body count. So, as far as the PIRA having the label as being "the most successful," it has more to do with the lifespan of the organization, its adaptability, recruitment, and things of that nature that kept it running since 1969. Though, yes, I do understand some missions did center around people-targets vs. physical targets, and that those particular missions were deemed successful if their purpose was completed. I suppose that after hearing from several historians and instructors of military history that the IRA was the most successful guerilla in history, I did assume (which I know I should never do) that there would have been more deaths attributed to them.

E


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 04:45 AM

Keith, Epona did not bring the figures into the Equation in this thread it was Wolfgang, and true to form it gave you and Teribus the opportunity to attempt to get the boot into the Provisionals. Regarding your remark,success by the numbers of people slaughtered. Sorry but that's not worth an answer.


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 04:25 AM

Ahmed,
You wrote "and as it has been proved here that the average Brit is anti-Irish"

It has not been proved, here or anwhere else, and in my experience it is not true.

I do accept that the average Brit is anti IRA.
Keith


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: GUEST,Ahmed Byrne
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 03:47 AM

Well, you can read the British Army and the Loyalist Paramilitaries as one organisation, as far as I'm concerned, like the boys who didn't bother to take off their uniforms before they killed Fran O'Toole and the Miami Showband.

Maybe Teribus could give us a little insight into collusion (a practice that he agrees with) as it appeared to him

I salute the IRA, Teribus!

They performed a necessary function in my growing up. They were the only voice the Nationalist had that would be listened to eventually, and as it has been proved here that the average Brit is anti-Irish, and has been since time immemorial, you would have thought that that kind of attitude would have gone a long way in explaining the woes the English people have suffered because of the intransigence of their leaders.

Do you know what the trouble with 'Brits' are?
They confuse their rascism and superiority complexes for self-righteousness.
And like America, who or what gave you the right to act as guardian of the World's morals.
Orther people don't always see things they way you lot do.
It doesn't make you right, however.

Interesting that Teribus should think that England have been trying to get rid of Ireland for 130 years or so, only that the Irish were too 'thick' to get their respective arses in order to rise to the occasion.

That is the trouble with revisionist thinking.

People who bomb shopping centers, commit 'atrocities' in the name of a cause, would much prefer to discuss that Cause, than to kill for it. After all, volunteers are prepared to lay down their life if necessary in the furtherance of that Cause
Revisionist thinking would have all Irish people being born with a gun in their hands. Not so.

Musical instruments and scholarly tomes, yes.

Freedom fighters are fighting for some form of freedom, in the normal scheme of things, and by definition against some form of tyranny.

Stop trying to be the guardian, Teribus. Because the guardians have been proven to be worse scum than the people they have fired that epithet at.

You reap what you sow, eh?

Are there any Christians around here that can explain the philosophy of that statement to you, Teribus?
'Karma' is another good one.

The attitude of the British Establishment has never taken into account the repercussions on it's citizens. They are the present day 'cannon fodder', and are always good for scoring political points with.

No more no less.

Wise up to your leaders, folks.


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 01 Nov 05 - 03:20 AM

Epona,
If you count success by the numbers of people slaughtered, I suppose some of the Islamic terror groups deserve that honour.


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 07:21 PM

Hope you get your answer to your question E. And hope you don't have to wait as long as I have to the figures I require.


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Epona
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 07:08 PM

Hello! Thanks for the follow-up to my question. I checked out the Sutton table but was unable to find reference to how many civilians were killed by the provos. Will go back on tonight and scour it thoroughly. I do like the Cain site...visit it frequently and very surprised I'd never seen the table before! I must say that I'm surprised the numbers attributed to the provos aren't higher. They weren't given the title of the most successful guerilla army ever for nothing. Thanks again for the link! I'll try to check back in after doing some more research! :)

E


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 02:40 PM

Give me a break Tommy please.
Epona's very reasonable question had been overlooked, so I responded.
Problem?


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: GUEST,Tommy Mc Garrell
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 12:51 PM

Oh Keith has appeared ! Got your big spoon to try and stir the pot ? I have read your recent comments on Ireland.Any chance of somthing new in your posts ?


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 12:34 PM

Wolfgang, I have said sorry several times on this site for the loss of life during the armed struggle and it wasn't accepted. Seeing you have all our data and I have yours, why not have a try yourself to see do people accept it from you. I will let you know if I accept it when you post.


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 12:25 PM

Wolfgang, just realised the Germans killed more in the North of Ireland than the Provo's !


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Divis Sweeney
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 12:22 PM

What is the breakdown for deaths in England, Scotland and Wales during the Blitz ? I know the Germans killed 1,890 in Belfast alone.


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Wolfgang
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 08:43 AM

Epona,

Sutton table
Most questions can be answered taking that table as a start. But it took me a while to find out how the cross tabulations work.

in short:
(P)IRA (without DAAD) according to that table is responsible for 1706 of the 2055 for all republican paramilitaries together.
Next deadly organisation is UVF, 426, BTW, then British Army, 297)
Next deadly organisation on the Republican side is the INLA (113).

The 1706 dead for which the IRA is responsible in Suttons table (status summary by organisation crosstabulation) can be split up like this:
1011 British security (285 RUC and ex-RUC; 455 British Army; 222 UDR or ex-UDR; the rest being smaller number of (ex)-Prison officers, Royal navy; territorial army, British police etc)
516 Civilian
   7 Irish security
32 Loyalist Paramilitaries
140 Republican Paramilitaries

Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 31 Oct 05 - 08:21 AM

Epona,
Wolfgang obtained his data from Sutton's Index

Some years ago similar figures were posted from Amnesty International.

Are you shocked at the number of killings attributable to Republican paramilitaries? Does it change your outlook at all?

You may not be able to get a further breakdown of the Republican groups, But PIRA is far and away the biggest of them. Omagh is perhaps the only large scale massacre committed by a break away group.


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Oct 05 - 01:21 PM

Report in Thursdays Belfast Newsletter .September 17, 2005

Love Ulster Organise Rally
According to William Frazer leader of the group F.A.I.R. Love Ulster have 'penciled' in October 29th for a march from the Shankill Road to Belfast City centre for what the organisers claim will be a 'peaceful protest'. Victims' groups, Orangemen, loyalist bands and many others from across Northern Ireland will be called to the streets of Belfast to show the "the deep feelings of Protestant, unionist and loyalist people at this time". Mr. Frazer and local Orange Grand Master Dawson Bailey said according to reports coming in to them this is set to be one of the largest rallies Belfast City City has seen in years. It will remember all those brave Ulstermen and members of the British Army that gave their lives here during the troubles.Numbers in excess of 60,000 are expected. It will show unity of the Ulster people. Also, a special edition of the Ulster campaign newspaper is also being prepared by the Shankill Mirror.

Well now folks it is now 6.15pm on Saturday the 29th of October and The Love Ulster rally is over.Less than 1,800 turned up to remember the dead Ulstermen and British Army personal that died here during the troubles.Most of those in attendance were in band uniforms.They also wanted to show unity of all Protestants in Ulster.
Dear oh dear oh dear. Looks like they have been forgotten, not remembered ! We see figures on this site all the time, what about these figures ?


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: GUEST,Laurence Menary
Date: 29 Oct 05 - 09:35 AM

Loyalist's Surrender!!!!! Peace is on the way. Thank God! Flags and murals removed in Belfast yesterday as the LVF prepares to go out of business FLAGS have been taken down and murals painted over in Belfast ahead of the anticipated disbandment of the Loyalist Volunteer Force terrorist group. LVF trappings were removed from one of its strongholds in the Ballysillan district of north Belfast yesterday. Negotiators trying to end a violent feud between the LVF and rival terrorists said it was part of a strategy to wind up the group before the end of the year. Two dates for making a formal announcement have been discussed - Remembrance Sunday and the anniversary of the murder of its former leader, Billy "King Rat" Wright's murder. "Total disbandment has been on the cards since last Christmas," a source close to the LVF said. "But if you get one big step the hawks would immediately dive in and spoil it. That's why it's being done gingerly, with moves like the flags and murals coming down." Even so, many will be sceptical of any declaration by an organisation steeped in murder and drugs. To this end, secret discussions involving a number of clergymen have continued, but before it can announce its men have been stood down, a truce with the larger Ulster Volunteer Force is still to be brokered. The UVF has murdered four men since the latest shooting war with its sworn enemies erupted on the streets of Belfast in July. Tensions between the two loyalist factions have festered since Wright formed the new organisation after being thrown out of the UVF in 1996. A year later, on December 27, Wright t was assassinated by republicans inside the Maze jail. Allegations that prison staff colluded with the killers are to be studied when a public inquiry into his murder gets underway next spring. Mediators attempting to end the latest power struggle among loyalists are believed to have made significant progress. Despite UVF pledges to wipe out the splinter organisation, no one has been killed for two months. During that period, the LVF is understood to have discussed making a major response to the IRA's September 26 declaration that its armed struggle was over. The British government has also been approached about financing advice centres and post-conflict structures if the LVF's army council sells disbandment to the rank and file. "An awful lot of hard and sensitive work has gone on in the background," one adviser said. Pastor Kenny McClinton, who has worked as an LVF intermediary in the past, refused to comment on any initiatives. "If there was anything going on, it would be much too sensitive for me to talk about," he said. "However, I would applaud any move towards a resolution of the conflict within loyalism and the wider community." So Teribus what will you do now ? these were the guys you depended on to kill the Provo's between drugs deals . Are the Provo's going to be allowed to walk the streets ? These were the guys the British army and N.I. police force colluded with.Also what do you think about the fact that today the homes of 16 police officers were raided and four police stations too ! The case against them is corruption.Can this be the same force you so lovong admire ?


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: GUEST,Kieran Mc Conville
Date: 29 Oct 05 - 04:17 AM

Teribus,how dare you say things against America in the light of loyalist paramilitaries running your streets in Bolton and a British government that is standing by and doing nothing about it! That's not the style here in America. That's the best you can offer your children and their future. More racism, more hatred, more of how much better we are over someone else because we have suffered more. Get real with this. We know who suffered greatly and who has made the step towards peace and it is NOT Unionists. The victimization of Catholics was not a fantasy, it was a reality and live up to what you, your government, and your groups like the Orange Order and the Apprentice Boys did to maintain the status quo. Time and time again it's collusion between paramilitaries, the police and the army and more people dead and more killed. Some country you have to boast about here and some courage you have to tell the rest of the world anything. This for God, country and king is not going to cut it anymore. Then you have the gall to sit around and see who killed more than the other like this is come old English battle where the largest numbers who lives wins. Really sad, really sad. Oh so we are way behind you. Sure just say the wrong word to minority or break a hate crime here in the US and see what comes your way by the means of the law. You get jail. We do not have Ian P's in political office chanting some anti-Catholic hate that belongs back in the 1600's. You do. Say you belong to hate group and you might just as well as not plan on getting a job. If we are so behind the ball, then why did you see all the Blacks being helped in the South after the hurricanes? I did not see anyone shooting them. It was tough but aid came and its still pouring in down there. We are Americans and its time to help your neighbor. Debate anytime. Just do not give me we do not understand nonsense, I know what your visiting army did in Ireland, and you come here to say your proud about it ?


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: GUEST,Tommy Mc Garrell
Date: 29 Oct 05 - 04:05 AM

No Jimmy, Clara Street.


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Jimmy C
Date: 29 Oct 05 - 12:45 AM

Tommy.

Are you from Greenwood street ???????.


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Epona
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 08:25 PM

Good luck Tommy!

E


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 08:13 PM

Calling Teribus, Calling Teribus


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: GUEST,Tommy Mc Garrell
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 08:01 PM

Ard got a lot of stuff there thanks. Now time to educate Canada !Best wishes Tommy.Time to brush up !


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: Epona
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 07:18 PM

Oh, Gloria...I remember hearing about that. Poor horse.

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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: GUEST,Tommy Mc Garrell
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 05:46 PM

Thanks ard mhacha


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: ard mhacha
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 04:58 PM

Tommy just Google Johnston Brown RUC for futher reading.


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: GUEST,Tommy Mc Garrell
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 03:48 PM

Ard Great post. If you get more on this please keep us informed. Also anything on collusion we don't tend to hear much about it here in Canada. Best wishes Tommy


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: GUEST,Gloria
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 01:42 PM

I remember in my time in Ulster the I.R.A. shot a horse in the ass. The story was in the papers. Made a bigger deal out of it than if it had been a human.


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: GUEST,Fiolaris
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 01:20 PM

Teribus you sure do bounce around alot don't you? I was born and raised in Ulster. So, don't get your knickers in a twist. No one says the states don't have problems. Just as I imagine S. Africa still does. But, Teribus they are dealing with their problems. As is N. Ireland now. You have a problem with that? One time you say your against the likes of Rev. Ian and loyalists next your defending their apartheid and pogrom. I seem to think you must have been hand picked for a guest book propaganda mill. You remind me of the Oakland, California loyalist wannabe who moved to Derry a year or so ago. He too rambled on like yourself. I say again, peace is at hand Teribus. Whether you or even the old blowhards along with you here likes it or not. Peace is coming. And along with it equality for all. Not just Catholics, but for everyone. I know it's hard for you and the bigots to accept, but it will happen just the same. You have a problem with peace Teribus? Do you have a problem with equality? Or do you join the others here and want the status quo to remain? Do you have an opinion on anything, or do you have to wait for Wolfgang to feed you his latest propaganda? Till him to review his own history before looking into others.


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Subject: RE: Catholic Priest clears his chest
From: GUEST,Clint
Date: 28 Oct 05 - 01:00 PM

Dear Teribus
Thanks for taking the time to explain this, clearly it wasn't you. There is no doubt about that.Please accept my apology. I went through the Threads but could not find it, your word is enough for me.So sorry to see the above back here, F.T. truely is a virus.


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