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BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...

Bobert 11 Oct 05 - 07:43 PM
wysiwyg 11 Oct 05 - 07:54 PM
Bobert 11 Oct 05 - 08:06 PM
wysiwyg 11 Oct 05 - 08:17 PM
The Fooles Troupe 11 Oct 05 - 08:31 PM
Bobert 11 Oct 05 - 08:41 PM
wysiwyg 11 Oct 05 - 09:16 PM
wysiwyg 11 Oct 05 - 09:17 PM
Bobert 11 Oct 05 - 09:32 PM
bbc 11 Oct 05 - 10:02 PM
Deckman 11 Oct 05 - 10:14 PM
Bobert 11 Oct 05 - 10:30 PM
Deckman 11 Oct 05 - 11:05 PM
Metchosin 11 Oct 05 - 11:06 PM
number 6 11 Oct 05 - 11:11 PM
GUEST,.gargoyle 11 Oct 05 - 11:27 PM
JohnInKansas 11 Oct 05 - 11:56 PM
Stilly River Sage 12 Oct 05 - 12:34 AM
open mike 12 Oct 05 - 01:24 AM
Joybell 12 Oct 05 - 05:43 PM
Bobert 12 Oct 05 - 06:48 PM
Rapparee 12 Oct 05 - 07:00 PM
gnu 12 Oct 05 - 07:17 PM
Bobert 12 Oct 05 - 07:36 PM
Bill D 12 Oct 05 - 07:44 PM
Stilly River Sage 12 Oct 05 - 09:49 PM
Desert Dancer 13 Oct 05 - 12:11 AM
Grab 13 Oct 05 - 09:25 AM
GUEST,rarelamb 13 Oct 05 - 10:08 AM
JennyO 13 Oct 05 - 11:49 AM
Metchosin 13 Oct 05 - 11:56 AM
gnu 13 Oct 05 - 12:35 PM
M.Ted 13 Oct 05 - 01:34 PM
Nigel Parsons 13 Oct 05 - 01:50 PM
Joybell 13 Oct 05 - 06:49 PM
GUEST,Art Thieme 13 Oct 05 - 08:29 PM
Deckman 13 Oct 05 - 10:27 PM
Stilly River Sage 13 Oct 05 - 11:53 PM
The Fooles Troupe 14 Oct 05 - 12:29 AM
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The Fooles Troupe 14 Oct 05 - 05:19 AM
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Subject: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Bobert
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 07:43 PM

Hey, gol danged, you heard me right... I.6 gallon flushes??? Like with 1.6 gallons ya gotta flush the thing half a dozen or more times to get it flushed??? Well, accordin' to the Wes Ginny Slide Rule the new water savin' toilets use twice as much water to get the job done?!?!?!...

Yeah, me and the P-Vine went toidy shoppin' today and after seein' what's out there I decided to go by the old hotel I own and poke 'round thru it and found a nice old toidy with a tank that holds 'bout 3 and 1/2 gallons... I'll go back, snag it, clean it up, put new innards in it and keep gettin' up... And save water in the process...

And the best part about this is there's another dozen old toilets in the hotel...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 07:54 PM

Now HOW did I know this would be a Bobert thread!?

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Bobert
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 08:06 PM

Well, I don't have a clue, WYSuzie... Ain;t like I got no scatilogical tendencies like Spawzer, 'er anal fixations like Martin Gibson...

It's just a danged engineerin' situation, really...

B;)


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 08:17 PM

No sh*t?

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 08:31 PM

Don't get flushed with success Bobert!


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Bobert
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 08:41 PM

Not to worry, Foolesy...

Yeah, I was thinkin' I was on top of the world today when I drove my beat up old Toyota to by more than beat up ol' hotel, went in, carefully stepped over the dead pigeon in the hall, and went from nasty room to another surveyin' nasty ol' toilets...

If this is success, then bring on some failuer, will ya...

But, hey, that ol' toidy sho nuff has a big tank...

Sad commentary when it's "big tanks" that get's a guy's blood pumpin'...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 09:16 PM

At least you have not (yet) invited the P-Vine to vacation in there, know what I mean?!?!? "Aw honey we already got us a luxury hoe-tell, we kin stay fir free an' all...."

Need a MudGather work camp in there?

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 09:17 PM

New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap... / How low can you go?

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Bobert
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 09:32 PM

There's always the woods...


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: bbc
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 10:02 PM

My plumber showed me that I can hold the handle all the way down to get more water to flush. Better than nothing.

Sympathies,

bbc


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Deckman
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 10:14 PM

This thread title caught my eye. Many years ago, I was asked to survey one of the Seattle "turn of the century" mansions. I dutifully did so, counted the bathrooms, bedrooms, perused the basement for signs of rot, etc. This was/is a four story mansion but in 1895. I spent a full day going through crack and crevice looking for problems that needed attention.

I finally reached the fourth story   w a a a y   up high. Lo and behold, I found a tiny bathroom in the corner of a "maid's room." Yep, the toilet was imported from England and it was stamped in that beautiful blue dye ... "Thomas Crapper!"

I offered to trade my day's work for just the toilet but the homeowner was too smart for that! Bob(deckman)Nelson


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Bobert
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 10:30 PM

Yeah, D-Man, nuthin' like a crapper... Don't make 'um like that anymore...

Unfortunately, crap is still made the ol' fashioned way and 1.6 gallons ain't gonna get the job done...


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Deckman
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 11:05 PM

... I'm flushed with excitment! (I'll get my coat)!


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Metchosin
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 11:06 PM

We just got a new Caroma dual flush from Australia. ( 1.6 / 0.8 US Gal) We haven't hooked it up yet, as the new powder room is not yet complete, so right now it sits by my computer and I admire it as a art piece. I'll let you know how it works. I believe, unlike most NA toilets, its not a siphon, its a wash down.

I'm betting it works just fine. Then again there may be a lot of dirty toilets in Australia. Either that or North Americans are just more full of sh*t than their Aus counterparts.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: number 6
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 11:11 PM

They're certainly better than a Jonny-on-the-spot!

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 11:27 PM

If you search

very

hard.

You will find my postings and photos on the Urinal threads.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 11 Oct 05 - 11:56 PM

Bobert -

I'll certainly agree that when the US outlawed the old 'uns the immediate replacements were "crap." I had the misfortune of not having a place to salvage, and had to install a couple of them.

I will say though that the last 3 I've personally installed were of the "low volume type," and all 3 work better than any of the old ones I'd had before.

You've just got to quit dealing with "low volume sellers" who still have old ones on the floor if you want the latest in "low volume crap..(.er.)s"..#

John


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 12:34 AM

Of course this was a Bobert thread! I made a bet with myself to that effect before I opened it!

Good luck with the new/old commode. If you find the big tank uses too much water, you can always put a couple of bricks in it.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: open mike
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 01:24 AM

i ownder if the dual flush mentioned above
is like the ones that they have in Sweden.
there are two choices on many of them
a little bit of water, if that's all
you need, and another button if you
think it will take more...this
saves a lot of water in the
long run! or you could
save by using this
motto: if it's
yellow it is
mellow, if
it's brown
flush
it
d
o
w
n


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Joybell
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 05:43 PM

Aussie toilets do use a better design than American ones.
I was looking for Californian wildflower pictures the other day, though, when I found a wonderful poppy-urinal. It was in the shape of a Californian poppy - bright orange. I want one! Don't care if I can't use it and True-love prefers the lemon tree. I want one!


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 06:48 PM

Well, sure, there are lots of high buck toidies out there that will actually flush with 1.6 or less gallons of water but like who wants to spend that kinda money...

The old one I'm going to recycle from the old hotel is gonna come in at less than $20.00 fir everything I need to rebuild it's innards...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Rapparee
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 07:00 PM

We got a new flush toilet a couple years ago. It's got low flow, with an air assist. Sounds like a rocket taking off when you push the lever down....


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: gnu
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 07:17 PM

Crap! I got a 3.5gpf, 17.5" at the rim, elongated, super swirlin MOTHER Gerber! I had a thread on this puppy a few years back. What a joy! No more double flushin... no more missin pissin at zero dark hundred hours and, best, no more cold dick surprise. I likes me Gerber.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 07:36 PM

YOU be da man, gnu!!!

3.5??? That's beauty to my ears... Must sound like Niagra Falls...

Ahhh, jus one question... This ain't the same Gerber that makes baby food is it??? If so, explains alot...

Nevermind that question.... But have ya noticed that all baby food looks [p-urdy much alike???

Nevermind that question as well but, if ya will induldge me one small favor??? Can you go give it a good flush 'round 10:00 tonight??? I'll put my ear to a wine glass on the floor to see if I can pick up just a little of the rumblin' sound...

Like I said, it's music to my eyes jus' hearin' about this bad boy...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 07:44 PM

when the first 1.6 gadgets came out, they were miserable! No notion of engineering and just did not work! I gather they do have carefully figgered out new ones that 'can' do the job, but as Bobert says, thay can be expensive. I talked to a plumber who says old toilets salvaged from houses bring premium prices these days when folks refuse to use those chancey new ones@


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Oct 05 - 09:49 PM

Hildebrand started a thread after the trip to the states. In it he complained about the problem of the American toilet seat position in proximity to the water. Seems the cold wet dip was unpleasant.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 12:11 AM

Well, the other current toidy thread (Aussie public toilet map) had composting toilets in the ads at bottom when I looked. They'd solve your flushing problem... and since you guys are gardeners, they'd provide other benefits as well!

~ B in T


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Grab
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 09:25 AM

Time for a song? Shitting On Top Of The World, perhaps?


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: GUEST,rarelamb
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 10:08 AM

Who do we have to blame for these low volume toilets? Bob, I am Green with envy for your large capacity toilets :)


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: JennyO
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 11:49 AM

Well now I've seen everything!

I saw a show on TV not long ago where they were demonstrating a toilet that would flush 24 golf balls, so I went looking for it with Google. Not only did I find that one, but toilets that raise the lid when they sense you coming into the room, and toilets with an aquarium in a see-through cistern - in this video. If you click on 'watch' where it tells you to choose a video, you can bypass the commercial.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Metchosin
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 11:56 AM

Bobert, you can get a Tasman made by Caroma for about $240 US. Hardly big bucks for a very green throne.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: gnu
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 12:35 PM

Oops... 17" at the rim. I went to the website but I couldn't find any 3.5gpf models. In any case, the hi-rise, elongated profiles are a joy. See www.gerberonline.com.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: M.Ted
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 01:34 PM

In some of the Northern States, Bobert, I am told that they head into Canada to buy their toilets--


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Subject: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 01:50 PM

It's not the volume of water in the tank that counts, it's the height of the tank above the target.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Joybell
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 06:49 PM

I haven't alerted Hildebrand to this thread. It would just start him off. As Stilly River Sage points out he had a serious problem with American toilets. (Your toilet was fine, by the way! SRS.)
How to put this delicately?
When sitting down the level of the water is prone to link up with elderly (that's the key word) bits of male anatomy. It wasn't a problem when he was youthful. He spent his first 30 years in America and a trip back 10 years ago didn't cause any concern. I'm thinking about a sort of harness affair if we ever visit again. Any ideas?
Cheers, Joy


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 08:29 PM

We had a fire in our bathroom last week.
Got it out before it got to the house though!

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Deckman
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 10:27 PM

Art ... what did you do ... throw a match in there? Bob


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 13 Oct 05 - 11:53 PM

Joybell,

Maybe something adjustible, with pulleys. :)

Art,

The writing is on the wall: it's time to turn down the temp on that heated toilet seat!

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 14 Oct 05 - 12:29 AM

Glad to see you got it out at last Art!

Oh, you meant the fire... well at your age... how would you like something with pulleys?


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: GUEST,Art Thieme
Date: 14 Oct 05 - 01:01 AM

My old uncle drowned in his outhouse. Ya might say he was in turd*! >--------------->-------------------->------------------->------------------>-------------->---------------->"interred*"

(art)


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 14 Oct 05 - 05:19 AM

So that's how you got full of it...


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: bobad
Date: 14 Oct 05 - 10:26 PM

Here's one that looks like it may be worth a crap.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: buttonbox
Date: 16 Oct 05 - 04:52 PM

there was a young man from the Clyde
who fell down the khazi & died
his younger brother
fell down another
and now they're inturd side by side


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 17 Oct 05 - 05:09 AM

In Melbourne Aust, there is apparently currently a toilet museum exhibition.

Also, they have constructed a Public Toilet called "The Big Turd"


I don't know why you think I'm making this up...


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: GUEST,Dandy in Aspic
Date: 21 Sep 08 - 05:33 AM

Ask George Michael for an opinion, he has just been caught again in public toilets, this time with drugs,also looking to cure someone's piles. The last time charged with having a J.Arthur Rank. Such a nice role model for young men !

Dandy in Aspic


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 21 Sep 08 - 11:49 AM

Tom solved the problem of the multi-gallon flush when he built our post-and-beam kit house (with his then-wife) in 1977 -- we have a composting toilet.

Not for everybody, but, hey, it never freezes in the winter when other pipes are solid. (We heat primarily with wood, too.)

And, since Barry Finn's wife Justine gave me a children's toilet training book with a computer chip that plays a flushing noise, people who are not Soddy-Potty-trained can listen to a nice flushing sound for closure.

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Bert
Date: 21 Sep 08 - 12:30 PM

What's the name of that potty training book Lynn? We've got a couple of grandkids who will be needing it really soon.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 21 Sep 08 - 12:58 PM

Bert, I'll have to go upstairs and check the title -- I know it comes in two flavors, boy and girl.

Justine gave me the girl version.

The flush sounds ends in a little girl's giggle.

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: gnu
Date: 21 Sep 08 - 01:14 PM

Little boy's ends with father swearing and going for the snake to retrieve the toy?


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 21 Sep 08 - 08:24 PM

Back when I was testing things at Consumer Reports, we checked out a doozy called the Destroilet-- a combination toilet and propane-fired incinerator. Worked pretty well (if you didn'tr peek), until one of the larger staffers simply overpowered it and damn near gassed the neighborhood.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Bobert
Date: 21 Sep 08 - 08:30 PM

Danged...

I read the titale of this thread and thought to myself, "Geeze, I shoulda started this thread" so then I opened it and...

...I did start this thread!!!

Deja vu and this flush is for you...

Wooossshhhhh!!!!

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Barry Finn
Date: 21 Sep 08 - 09:22 PM

If your old style works well & you want to conserve on water just keep adding a brich at a time to the tank till it doesn't do a good job then back up a brich or 2.

Here's a song perfectly seated for this thread (in the DT)

I'M GLAD I'M WORKING DOWN BELOW
(Words & Music by John M Garrett)

Oh a sewerman am I and my trade I deftly ply
As underneath the city streets I go
And my hope for paradise is to wade up to my thighs
Oh I'm glad I'm working down below

CHORUS:
Down below, down below
Oh it's dark but it's home to me, you know
It's the only place, I find, I can get some peace of mind
Yes I'm glad I'm working down below

There are rules to the trade that have to be obeyed
And every movement must be made just so
You must watch just where you stand, and just where you put your hand
Still I'm glad I'm working down below

There was cause for alarm at a nearby sewage farm
When a man fell down a pit some years ago
Since the accident occurred he's been lying there interred
Oh I'm glad I'm working down below

Oh in Paris I have found they take tourists underground
And even charge a small fee for the show
While in Venice I've heard tell they sail boats on it as well
Oh I'm glad I'm working down below

Oh it is a wonderful life, you can hide here from your wife
And leave behind your every care and woe
I may be a sewer rat, but I'm not to be sniffed at
Oh I'm glad I'm working down below

Barry


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 21 Sep 08 - 09:44 PM

We just got new toilets, Toto brand, and they do the job efficiently with little water, albeit a bit noisily. Very satisfactory! The city gave us $100 for replacing our old ones.
Not the cheapest, but excellent quality.


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: mouldy
Date: 22 Sep 08 - 06:16 AM

I got two slick, modern new'uns in last year, as part of my prettyfying of the house before I sell it. One is a "compact" cistern job for my own personal use off the bedroom. They are both Italian, I think, and I don't know if it's anything to do with the mediterranean diet, but they aren't as wide at the bendy bit! The one in my "en suite" has bordered on the wire coathanger treatment a couple of times. It also has this weird plastic float and mechanism thing in it, (it works on dual flush buttons from the top), and it's constantly dribbling down into the pan, even after I have had a good poke around. However, despite having a very small capacity, compared with the trad English version downstairs, it somehow mostly seems to do the job reasonably well. The other new one has a lever.

By the way, anyone worked out why the German toilets all have a shelf in the pan?

Andrea


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: quokka
Date: 22 Sep 08 - 07:29 AM

Great Australian movie on this topic called 'Kenny', shot documentary style about a bloke who has a "Port-a-loo" business, (temporary toilets)and it is hilarious! Kenny goes to a convention in (I think) Las Vegas on the subject, and has all sorts of adventures on the way.

Cheers,
Quokka


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Mr Red
Date: 22 Sep 08 - 01:09 PM

Sign in one toilet at work (it has a macerator and small bore outflow)

"Please do not flush anything except toilet paper down the toilet"

Not that I obey!


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 23 Sep 08 - 01:12 AM

Ah Mr Red, you finally found a toilet for tight-arses?! :-P

Regarding the Aussie "Kenny' character, he is currently doing a TV series on toilets round the world...


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Subject: RE: BS: New Toilets Ain't Worth Crap...
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 23 Sep 08 - 02:48 AM

In the UK there is a glut of portable toilets which look like Dr Whos 'Tardis'........ our family changed a letter in the name to suit....... 'Turdis'... is such an earthy sounding name.


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