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greg stephens 01 Oct 05 - 07:31 AM
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Subject: Alleluya/Buckley/ Cohen
From: greg stephens
Date: 01 Oct 05 - 07:31 AM

Somebody recently played me a remarkable track. Jeff (Geoff?? didnt see it written down) Buckley singing Leonard Cohen's song Alleluya. Now, intriguingly, the Buckley version started off with two verses from the published Cohen lyrucs(biblical stuff about David and Bathsheba)), but then diverged dramatically. So my question is, did Buckley write these new verses, or did Leonard Cohen write two separate versions of his song.
   Another interesting mathematical question, very relavant to looking this stuff up with google: how many ways can you spell "Jeff Buckley Alleluya"?


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Subject: RE: Alleluya/Buckley/ Cohen
From: Jeri
Date: 01 Oct 05 - 09:37 AM

Greg, I see (on the internet - expert authoritay) that it was Jeff Buckley's version used in the US TV show "The West Wing," which I saw and distintly remember. The words are the same. Maybe it was the fact you really heard the Buckly version because you liked it?

As for spellings, try it with the second 'l' sound: alleluLia. Of course, searching for "Halleluja" works even better.

Here's some interesting information at Songfacts.com, even though Mike from Oz is talking out of his down-under when it comes to chords. (The line, IIRC is "The fourth the fifth, the minor fall the major lift," which pretty much goes with what's being sung.


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Subject: RE: Alleluya/Buckley/ Cohen
From: greg stephens
Date: 01 Oct 05 - 09:53 AM

I ant follow your blue clickie completely, Jeri. But from what I have seen googling, and listening to recordings, is that Jeff Buckley sings two verses that do not appear in the published Leonard Cohen song. So, my question is, who wrote them?


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Subject: RE: Alleluya/Buckley/ Cohen
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 01 Oct 05 - 10:00 AM

If you get hold of some of Leonard Cohens books, not sure which one(s), but I think it was "Leonard Cohen Lyrics", then it has several verses for Hallelujah that are not commonly heard. I had a note of them somewhere. I'll have a look, but I've not seen them in a while. It is likley that several catters have the book somewhere. I know my father has it somewhere, but he isn't at home for a week or two, so no use there.

So the short answer is Yes, there are more verses written by Cohen than you normally hear.

Hope that helps.


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Subject: Lyr Add: HALLELUJAH (Leonard Cohen
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 01 Oct 05 - 10:14 AM

There are a couple of other verses Here.

There are various other threads on this song.... Please use searches to check what you want isn't already here!

Hallelujah
(Thanks to Peter T)

Now I've heard there was a secret chord
That David played, and it pleased the Lord
But you don't really care for music, do you?
It goes like this -- the fourth, the fifth
The minor fall, the major lift
The baffled king composing "Hallelujah".

Hallelujah Hallelujah Hallelujah Hallelujah

Your faith was strong, but you needed proof
You saw her bathing on the roof
Her beauty and the moonlight overthrew you.

She tied you to a kitchen chair
She broke your throne, and she cut your hair
And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah Hallelujah, Hallelujah

[Baby, I've been here before,
I know this room, I've walked this floor,
I used to live alone before I knew you.
I've seen your flag on the marble arch,
But love is not a victory march,
It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah.]

Hallelujah, Hallelujah Hallelujah, Hallelujah

[There was a time you let me know
What's really going on below
but now you never show it to me, do you?
But remember when I moved in you,
And the holy dove was moving too,

and every breath we drew was Hallelujah]

Hallelujah, Hallelujah Hallelujah, Hallelujah

[Now maybe there's a God above
but all I ever learned from love
Is how to shoot somebody who outdrew you --
And its not a cry you hear at night,
Its not somebody who's seen the light,
It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah.

Hallelujah, Hallelujah Hallelujah, Hallelujah]

You say I took the name in vain
I don't even know the name
But if I did, well really, what's it to you?
There's a blaze of light in every word
It doesn't matter which you heard
The holy or the broken Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah Hallelujah, Hallelujah

I did my best, it wasn't much
I couldn't feel, so I (tried) learned to touch
I've told the truth, I didn't come to fool you --
And even though it all went wrong
I'll stand before the Lord of Song
With nothing on my (tongue) lips but Hallelujah

Hallelujah, Hallelujah Hallelujah, Hallelujah Hallelujah, Hallelujah Hallelujah, Hallelujah Hallelujah, Hallelujah


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Subject: RE: Alleluya/Buckley/ Cohen
From: Jeri
Date: 01 Oct 05 - 10:59 AM

Bunnahabhain, the search function can't interpret spelling and there really ARE a buttload of ways to spell 'alleloha'.


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Subject: RE: Alleluya/Buckley/ Cohen
From: greg stephens
Date: 01 Oct 05 - 11:01 AM

Right, it looks like they are all Leonard Cohen verse, but he didnt use all of them himself when he recorded it. Thanks a lot for the information, everyonbe.
What a great song!


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Subject: RE: Alleluya/Buckley/ Cohen
From: Jeri
Date: 01 Oct 05 - 11:07 AM

By the way, I fixed the link up there to the Google search.

I do like the song, but I still think Cohen wrote it on a bet.


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Subject: RE: Alleluya/Buckley/ Cohen
From: greg stephens
Date: 01 Oct 05 - 11:11 AM

The combination of biblical history, deeply poetic language and some very funny clever-dick rhymes is a wonderful combination.


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Subject: RE: Alleluya/Buckley/ Cohen
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 01 Oct 05 - 11:12 AM

Heavens! I'm afraid I know the song only from the animated movie Shrek. Interesting to learn it's a Leonard Cohen song.

~ Becky in Tucson


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