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Cool Beans 27 Jul 05 - 04:05 PM
Uncle_DaveO 27 Jul 05 - 04:13 PM
shepherdlass 27 Jul 05 - 06:03 PM
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open mike 27 Jul 05 - 08:49 PM
GUEST,Gerry 27 Jul 05 - 08:51 PM
Bob Bolton 27 Jul 05 - 09:07 PM
Kaleea 27 Jul 05 - 09:27 PM
harpgirl 28 Jul 05 - 09:51 AM
Paul Burke 28 Jul 05 - 09:51 AM
Cool Beans 28 Jul 05 - 10:42 AM
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Subject: Dumb lyrics to help remember tunes
From: Cool Beans
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 04:05 PM

It's hard to remember tunes without words (at least if you're me)so I make up stupid lyrics for otherwise wordless tunes as a mnemonic device.
For instance, to remember "Leather Britches" I came up with:
I've got leather britches
Lots of little stitches
Lordy how it itches.
Got to get some underwear.

For "Hunting the Buffalo" I relied on the word "Tatunka," which is Lakota for "buffalo," according to "Dances With Wolves." Hence:
In the west there's many a tatunka
On the plains with the aromatic sage.

That's enough to get me going and I always remember those tunes now.
Tell me I'm not alone.


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Subject: RE: Dumb lyrics to help remember tunes
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 04:13 PM

Not folk music, but I'd like to murder whoever put a mnemonic verse to the first phrase of Schubert's "Unfinished" symphony:

This is
The sym-pho-nee
That Schubert wrote
And never fin-ished

It's absolutely lovely, and those damn words always intrude, fifty years after I first heard them.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Dumb lyrics to help remember tunes
From: shepherdlass
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 06:03 PM

I had Mendelssohn's "Fingal's Cave" ruined for me by a music teacher who insisted on singing the "hook" as "How lovely the sea is"!


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Subject: RE: Dumb lyrics to help remember tunes
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 06:07 PM

The word is "Tatanka" (buffalo) Pronounce all the "A"'s like "ahh", and you've got it.

Sitting Bull's name in Lakota was "Tatanka Yotanka" (the buffalo bull, sitting)


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Subject: RE: Dumb lyrics to help remember tunes
From: GUEST,ClaireBear
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 06:08 PM

The morris community is rife with this. For example, I recalled these lyrics while trying to place a tune I heard last night midway through a Waterson:Carthy concert:

Nebuchadnezzar he gave himself pleasure
Abusing himself on the Banks of the Dee

Not to mention:

Old Molly Oxford slept on a sofabed,
The cat come up and fell asleep upon her head,
Smothered her until she was dead,
Oh poor Old Molly Oxford.

and of course:

Lumps of Plum Pudding and pieces of pie
My mother did give me for telling a lie.
It made me so sick I thought I would die
From Lumps of Plum Pudding and pieces of pie.

Cheers,
Claire


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Subject: RE: Dumb lyrics to help remember tunes
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 06:31 PM

I could give you quite a few lyrics to remember German military marches by, all learnt at my father's knee and (unfortunately) never forgotten ...


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Subject: RE: Dumb lyrics to help remember tunes
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 06:33 PM

This may help explain how some tunes have their name, remembering the differing language changes over the years.


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Subject: RE: Dumb lyrics to help remember tunes
From: open mike
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 08:49 PM

on the other hand,,,i have a memnonic (swp?) for remembering the words
to a Sarter Family song i sing. It helps me rem3ember the verses to the song which start with "Wonderful" "Folks" and "Praises". in order to
get them I just say the word "Whiffenpoof" and I know that W, F, and P
are the first lines..i hope i never forget the word whiffenpoof..

which now i had to look up to see what the heck it was..
apparently it was (is) a song by Bing Crosby--i wonder
what i would need in order to remember IT??


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Subject: RE: Dumb lyrics to help remember tunes
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 08:51 PM

Isaac Asimov came up with this one for the first three lines of (what is sometimes called)
The Irish Washerwoman's Jig;

Paradichloroaminobenzaldehyde,
Paradichloroaminobenzaldehyde,
Paradichloroaminobenzaldehyde,


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Subject: RE: Dumb lyrics to help remember tunes
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 09:07 PM

G'day Cool Beans,

The collecting of dance tunes (certainly here in Australia) is littered with mnemonic names, which are used to lock in the rhythm of each tune. Sometimes these are existing lyrics to songs that share the tune - so that when, many years back, the Bush Music Club was putting out some "standard" tune sets we all had a mental blank when faced with Cock of the North - and that tune went out under the name Aunty Mary ... for the various ditties about her that were remembered by the compilers!

Some of those collected in the field raise the odd eyebrow - like the many variants of "The Black Cat Piddled in the White Cat's Eye" ... or "God Bless You and Bugger me!". Still, I guess it's better than "Mick Pilley's Fifteenth Schottische"!

Regards,

Bob


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Subject: RE: Dumb lyrics to help remember tunes
From: Kaleea
Date: 27 Jul 05 - 09:27 PM

If it weren't for mnemonics, I would not have made it through my univ classes. My Music History Prof taught me how. He also taught me this for the New World Symphony:

Cra--zy peo-ple---- don't know what they're do-ing--.

And for Schuberts' Symphony #8 in B min he taught us:

   This is----- the symphony--------                                 
    that Schu-bert wrote and ne-ver ~~~


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Subject: RE: Dumb lyrics to help remember tunes
From: harpgirl
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 09:51 AM

Mozart's 40th


Mozart's in the closet, let him out, let him out, let him out!

It's a bird it's a plane it's Mozart!


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Subject: RE: Dumb lyrics to help remember tunes
From: Paul Burke
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 09:51 AM

I sometimes remember tunes by an associated song, as in Der Yid in Yerushalem, which reminds me strongly of The Prude of Petravor, and a reel (I can't remember the name) that starts almost exactly as Tony Rose's Grand Conversation with Napoleon.


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Subject: RE: Dumb lyrics to help remember tunes
From: Cool Beans
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 10:42 AM

Which reminds me. I learned this from an Alabama music teacher:

Beethoven's Fifth!
Beethoven's Fifth!
He got so drunk, he got so drunk, he got so drunk.
He got so drunk, he got so drunk, he got so drunk.


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Subject: RE: Dumb lyrics to help remember tunes
From: Chris Green
Date: 28 Jul 05 - 10:42 AM

Shepherd's Hey -

What's the f***ing point?
What's the f***ing point?
What's the f***ing point of this f***ing tune? (x2)

It's quite shit
Isn't it?
What's the f***ing point of this f***ing tune? (x2)


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Subject: RE: Dumb lyrics to help remember tunes
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 29 Jul 05 - 09:32 AM

Uncle Dave, the person you want to murder is Sigmund Spaeth, who wrote a hilarious but quite seriously-intended book FULL of verse-words for helping people to remember well known symphonic themes. Another of his gems (to Haydn's "Surprise" Symphony) is:

Papa Haydn wrote this tune
And a chord is coming soon
It will be a big surprise
Open sleepy eyes
BANG !!!!

I picked up a copy of Spaeth years ago in a secondhand stall, and in a misguided moment of housemoving-induced efficiency, gave it away - and have regretted it ever since. It was a scream.

More recently, when he was writing the melody to "Yesterday", Paul McCartney apparently used the words "scrambled eggs" as a sort of rhythmic holding-pattern. Puts a rather different cast on that song...


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