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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: LilyFestre
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 09:49 AM

Judge Mental...LOL...love your name...on so many different levels!

Michelle
    Thread closed, at least temporarily, per request from Brucie.
    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Judge Mental
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 09:41 AM

I was in Montreal on a weekend in 1974 and saw a most excellent concert at a college there that included Bruce Murdoch, Jesse Winchester, Penny Lang and a couple of other people. This thread brought back a memorable night from decades ago. Thanks Bruce.


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: ranger1
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 09:18 AM

Yep, innit, tho'.


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: LilyFestre
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 08:31 AM

I'm sitting back and watching Brucie squirm when folks say nice things about him!!!! It's kinda fun!!!!!!!!!




*smirk*

Michelle


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Peace
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 01:12 AM

Would someone close this thread, please?


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Amos
Date: 02 Aug 05 - 12:36 AM

Hey, José!!

C'mon -- we don't talk that good!

Let it roll on!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Beer
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 11:06 PM

Will do Bruce. Still need some time sorting the weekend out.


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Peace
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 10:58 PM

Adrien, I feel like I know you, too. I am already looking forward to meeting you. It will be great to see Penny again, also. And of course my old friend Mike. (Maybe that should read long-time friend. I'm gettin' to the age were that seems more appropriate.) I hope you'll post about the festival, Adrien. I don't get out much anymore, and hearing about th goings on is interesting to me. If ya have the time, let us know, OK?

BM


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Beer
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 10:50 PM

Hi Bruce,
Haven't been doing much on Mudcat due to Festival commitments. Then the coming down always hurts. Not feeling to bad now so decided to have a look as to what is happening on the site. I had just p.m'd. Bruce this afternoon to thank him for his c/d that arrived in the mail. Can't believe that I'm already getting pumped up for next year.
Also learned something that I was not aware of. Chris Crilly being a past(still) buddy.
Mike, thanks once again for your support and kind words you wrote me. Your support is greatly appreciated. This is not a secret, but Penny Lang will be moving to B.C. in September. However, she has every intention of being back here next year for the festival. Bruce, Penny and Mike,. What a great oppertunity for "A Family Reunion". One of my favorite songs that Penny sings. In Penny's evening show she sang one of Bruce's songs "Can I Come Across to You", A truly beautiful song.
I have never met Bruce but I feel as if I already know him. Thanks Bruce.
Beer ( Adrien)


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Azizi
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 09:06 PM

Correction: THE hit song and video for her students right now ...


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Azizi
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 08:50 PM

This may be blasphemous, but I haveta say that the concept of the threesome of husband, wife, and Fred becoming a twosome of hubby and Fred reminds me of the current controversial R&B {Hip-Hop?} hit by R. Kelly, "Trapped In The Closet". My daughter introduced it to me after a Pittsburgh high school English teacher I was interviewing mentioned to me that this was THE hit song and video for her right now {and she wasn't very happy about that, and neither am I].

See this summary excerpt:

"R. Kelly's 5-part mini soap opera:
In June 2005, R. Kelly released to radio the first audio sections, or songs, of his 16 minute 5-part mini soap opera. The songs became r&b hits and generated even more interest as accompanying video became available. With the release of R. Kelly's latest album TP.3 Reloaded, a bonus DVD is included of all 5 video segments. As TP.3 Reloaded registered sales of almost 500,000 copies in its first week, "Trapped In the Closet" has experienced a resurgence in popularity...and discussion about its content.

"Trapped In the Closet" parts 1-5 may be among the most unconventional hit songs ever. Each part of the saga is a dramatically performed reading of the story over a minimal pulsing musical background. R. Kelly himself portrays all of the characters.

Each segment finishes with a cliffhanger leaving the listener eager for the next part of the story. R. Kelly has referred to "Trapped In the Closet" as a ghetto Desperate Housewives.

Controversy has erupted centered around the content of "Trapped In the Closet." The story details a tangled web of extramarital sexual relations. Along the way closet homosexuality, gun violence, moral standing of clergy, judgement of others in relationships, and violation of personal property are just a few of the issues that make an appearance. Some individuals have expressed concern over the frank sexuality discussed in the story while others are concerned about the negative image of the clergy promoted by the song suite..."

MORE HERE


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Peace
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 07:31 PM

PS

If I have missed anyone to whom I promised a copy, please let me know by message, OK? I have about ten of the things left, and if I had promised but did miss you, it was unintentional. I need your name, address. After I send the copy I delete both name and address. I can get them out later this week. Organization ain't my long suit.


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Peace
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 07:15 PM

Fred, he's making those noises again!


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Amos
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 07:14 PM

So I decided I had to hunt him down and kill him -- it was the honorable thing to do, after all. I ended up staring into a shattered mirror, a thousand pieces of crazed reflection radiating from the round hole my .38 had made in the bathroom mirror. So now I think I know just why you never mentioned him to me.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Peace
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 06:10 PM

Should read

It isn't fun to think THAT you've misplaced your loving spouse,


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Peace
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 06:10 PM

I hope you write me frequently from somewhere in this house,
It isn't fun to think you've misplaced your loving spouse,
But Fred and I are happy and we hope that you are too,
I'm wondering how come I never mentioned him to you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Peace
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 06:00 PM

LOL


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Amos
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 05:54 PM

You could make him turn out to be schizo in the last verse, if you liked!! LOL!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Peace
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 05:52 PM

Was thinking about a guy who has another man living in his house but doesn't know it. Lends itself to some humourous possibilities.

My mind's been hearing footsteps going up and down the stairs,
I'm running short of razor blades and Jockey underwear;
I hate to make assumptions but we eat enough for three,
I'm wondering how come you never mentioned him to me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Amos
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 05:32 PM

BRuce:

That's hilarious!! We should get one of these up-and-coming country stars to do it. It's better than "I Don't Remember Loving You"!! or "That's Not My Truck"!!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Peace
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 05:00 PM

Thanks, Lepus. Appreciate the kind words.


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 04:48 PM

Ooh, there's a thread. With lyrics, even. Cool. Thanks again for the CD, Bruce. It's fucking great. :)

---Lepus Rex


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Peace
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 04:27 PM

To add to what Amos said above, it's interesting to 'experience' the process of songwriting. I asked Amos if that was his--figuring it was--and he said yes. While he was kickin' that around, I was reading the thread "Lyr Reg'd, "You Never Mentioned Him to Me." Went looking for the words to that hymn for the post originator. (Found 'em BTW.) Anyhow, Joybell wrote "And I thought this was going to be a country song with a great tag line. Or maybe a 19th Century heart song. Anyway, nice to meet you Peace. I'm Joy."

It was too good to pass up. Even on a serious thread. So I wrote the following:

I didn't mind the dirty socks I found out in the hall,
The beer stains that are living on my Levis coveralls;
But now I'm filled with strange strange thoughts and cur-i-os-it-y,
I'm wondering how come you never mentioned him to me.

I'd like to know how long he's been a boarder in our bed,
And was it him you meant the night you screamed and called me Fred;
It is a bit suspicious that the bathroom's never free,
I'm wondering how come you never mentioned him to me.

The cat's been spraying everywhere, the dog's begun to howl,
I'm noticing red pubic hairs upon my favourite towel,
So tell me is it you an' me, or you and me and he,
I'm wondering how come you never mentioned him to me.


I have met Joybell on the 'cat before, but I don't know her all that much. I hemmed and hawed in my head. The second-to-last post on that thread (as it now stands) reads 'I had the strongest urge to call it "Ode to Joy". However, I have resisted the temptation.'

Joy responded, "OK!! That's the way! Nice going, Peace.
I put up signs when I'm selling CDs that read: "ODE TO JOY $20" Sadly no one seems to catch on."

The process of getting something written is a strange one. My time on the above? Maybe a half hour. Is it great writing? No. Does it serve the purpose I had in mind? Yes.

Peace


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Peace
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 03:57 PM

"I was cooking in an insane asylum, serving soup to nuts."

Mark, my friend, we gotta have a looooong talk. Next you are gonna break into "Pardon me Roy, is that the cat who chewed your new shoe?"

Hope the festival was a blast and that the gig at The Lena is successful for you guys. Best wishes to ya my old friend.

Bruce


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Peace
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 03:48 PM

Donuel,

There are no copyright issues, etc. As long as they indicate that the CD is the record RCI 510 from Radio Canada International (a CBC subidiary), there is no problem. I don't think SOCAN monitors in the US. But if they do, it's usually about $1.25 per song per play. I really am just guessing at that figure. My royalties from that record have never been much. Maybe $50 a year or so. If the station would need a letter signed by me to cover them in the event, etc., let me know. Mike Regenstreif plays some cuts now an then on his folk show in Montreal. Frankly, when records get to be that old, no one really cares anymore. I am still the writer of the songs, and I would think in the grand scheme of things that that gives me a few things to say about it all. So, in short, if no one's making big bucks from it, I don't see who'd complain. I know I wouldn't.

I once had a gal in the US who ask if she could record one of the songs. I said yes. She was not rich and was doing the CD on a verrrrry low budget. I appreciated her manners in asking--she'd spent weeks tracking me down. My words back to her: be my guest. She wanted to know about money and how'd she'd ever pay me, etc. I replied, "If you make lotsa cash, send me some." Additionally, as with most writers I know, money's good, but what is even more important is that our names stay with our creations. (In the case of a few songs I've composed that isn't quite true--but, life ain't perfect.)

So, in short, be my guest. And thank you for that vote of confidence, Don. It is very humbling to me having an artist of your ability ('genius' is the word I should use, but I don't want to embarrass you) say something like that. Very humbling. I have been a fan of your work since I first encountered it. I really hope to meet you someday down the road.

BM


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Amos
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 01:47 PM

Less than half that, ranger1, but your remark about the relative sizes of things is misplaced; it is a matter only of the confluence of attention units of the right kind. Azizi, gnu and Peace came together in a wee burst of attention that just happened to be the kind of vacuum I could fill readily. I am certain you have the same spark when the right intersections of attention hit you.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: gnu
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 11:41 AM

Better check with Brucie... SOCAN and/or others may get a tad upset.


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Donuel
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 10:57 AM

I just listened to Bruce's CD.

Wow

I would like to send a copy to our local NPR sat nite 5 hour folk music program to air. Is this kosher? Are their legal/royalty hurdles?


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: ranger1
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 10:50 AM

Did anyone else notice that Amos came up with that snippit in 59 minutes? I have just realized that I am a minnow swimming with some VERY large fish.


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: gnu
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 10:21 AM

Stay low and keep movin... by my brother's buddy after his third Purple Heart in Nam.


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Amos
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 09:58 AM

Boooooo, hissss, grooooan....


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Mark Ross
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 08:09 AM

I was cooking in an insane asylum, serving soup to nuts.

Mark Ross


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Peace
Date: 01 Aug 05 - 12:57 AM

And that, my friend, is why we are gonna have one helluva time writing together.


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Amos
Date: 31 Jul 05 - 09:31 PM

Staying low and keepin' moving
'S about all we have left to do
We've done our time at being targets
And mostly changed our minds, it's true.

So now the clock is counting faster,
And the middle ages showing through
Hard roads leave footprints in your mind
And no-one understands what time will do

We've all traded what we dreamed
For what we think we really know
And what we know now, best of all
Is to keep on moving, stayin' low


Add it to your bits and pieces, man!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Azizi
Date: 31 Jul 05 - 08:32 PM

"Stay low and keep movin'" - That's a good line.

Maybe it can be used in a song.

****

We're almost at 100. Not that anybody's counting.


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: gnu
Date: 31 Jul 05 - 08:26 PM

I was a lint picker in a blue serge suit factory but I deveoped a twitch so they yanked me.

This thread should be above the line? I feel honoured that brucie has placed this thread with his kindred spirits.

Stay low and keep movin', eh.


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Peace
Date: 31 Jul 05 - 08:07 PM

I once got a job as the human cannonball in a circus. Was hired and fired on the same day.


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Peace
Date: 31 Jul 05 - 08:06 PM

LOL


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Cluin
Date: 31 Jul 05 - 08:03 PM

Eh, we all take a drink from the wrong bottle sometimes.

I also had a good job at a fire hydrant factory once. But I quit because I couldn't park anywhere near the place.


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Peace
Date: 31 Jul 05 - 08:00 PM

We gonna have to have a loooooong talk, son. I have a sister named Nancy.

Clinton: NO. Did he? I'd bet he was good at it. He strikes me that way--good at anything he sets his mind to. However, now I have a mental pic of a young teenaged Clinton and--this is priceless.


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Cluin
Date: 31 Jul 05 - 07:55 PM

Yes, we all make mistakes in life. Mine was named Nancy.

And I know Clinton Hammond used to breakdance in his youth.


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: number 6
Date: 31 Jul 05 - 04:55 PM

Thanks for posting these Bruce.

sIx


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Peace
Date: 31 Jul 05 - 04:47 PM

We all make mistakes in life. Let it go at that, OK? OK!

Long story involving a three-piece suit made from banana peels and grapes, live hand grenade and a missing pin, and some peanut butter with a spoon stuck in it. Boring story that I won't go into. If we ever meet, I'll tell you.


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Cluin
Date: 31 Jul 05 - 04:37 PM

This is a good thread, dfeintely not BS, and is the best of what Mudcat is about, IMO. Good words from Mike about Bruce and from Bruce about Mike. Words from the guys that were THERE then and now.

One question though, Bruce.... what was with the crosshairs, man?


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Peace
Date: 31 Jul 05 - 12:56 PM

Harpgirl: Thanks. Where's yer cookie? I sent you a PM a day or two ago. Let me know on that when you have a chance, OK?


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Peace
Date: 31 Jul 05 - 12:41 PM

Thank you, all.

Mike, a special thanks to you. There are few people in the music 'business' whom I trust completely. You are one I do. My intent is to do another CD of new material. What I promise is that you will have the first copy available. You haven't said how much I owe you for the various club gigs, nothing about the times I was down and you gave me work to make sure I could keep on keepin' on. But then you wouldn't. You always were a class act, and IMO you are one of three people (Gary Eisenkraft, Chuck Baker and you) who ensured that the City of Montreal actually had a folk scene. It was you guys who opened clubs and set up concerts and brought in Paul Jeremiah, Jerry Jeff, Dave van Ronk, Sonny and Brownie (and many, many more), and it was you guys who gave a music home to people like Winchester, Lang and so many other musicians and songwriters. That city's debt to you--and my personal debt to you--hasn't been forgotten by me, Mike. It never will.

Chris is a wonderful guy. He is a classically trained pianist and a fiddle player. When he did the stuff on that album he ended up playing rock and roll piano and violin. You will never know the chuckles I have had about that over the years. He took it in stride. I didn't hear the violin work until the album came to me in the mail. It's his work on 'Fool Like Me' that makes the song.

I have every intention of getting to Ormstown next year. Beer has suggested I might do some stuff, and I am really taken by his kindness. I hope it provides an opportunity for you and me to park it for a while and shoot the breeze. You have always been a wonderful friend to me, Mike, sometimes a better friend than I deserved, and I want you to know that. Keep well buddy.

BM


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: GUEST,harpgirl
Date: 31 Jul 05 - 12:16 PM

I was hoping you would put up your words, Bruce. But I didn't want to make any demands! And what a nice compliment from Mike Regenstreif...

Please don't ask for the thread to be closed. Pride is a good thing!


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Azizi
Date: 31 Jul 05 - 10:39 AM

I agree. There is no way that this thread should be considered BS.

These lyrics can only hint at how moving these songs are.

The world needs to hear them-again, and hear other songs from you besides these.

Thank you

and

Positive vibrations,


Azizi


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Amos
Date: 31 Jul 05 - 10:36 AM

Thanks a million, Brucie -- make it easier to cover them! :D


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Re Promised CDs from brucie
From: Mike Regenstreif
Date: 31 Jul 05 - 10:12 AM

I got to hear Bruce Murdoch perform often in the days when these songs were new. I've always love these songs and practically wore out my copy of the original LP. So I'm very happy to have a CD copy now.

Bruce was a very special performer; and a great friend. I've really missed seeing him, and hearing new songs from him, over the past 25 years.

Coincidental to seeing this thread, I spent the day yesterday at Branches & Roots, a very small and very nice folk festival in Ormstown, a village about 40 miles southwest of Montreal. Among the performers was Chris Crilly, who played the keyboards and violin on Bruce's album. Chris lived around the corner from me for many years, but now lives out in the country near Ormstown and I hadn't seen him in several years. Penny Lang, who sings "Can I Come Across to You," was there too.

Mike Regenstreif


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