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'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'

Don(Wyziwyg)T 15 Jun 05 - 06:56 AM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 15 Jun 05 - 07:01 AM
GUEST,Blowzabella at work 15 Jun 05 - 07:22 AM
MBSLynne 15 Jun 05 - 07:39 AM
GUEST 15 Jun 05 - 08:05 AM
Mitch the Bass 15 Jun 05 - 08:13 AM
Malc R 15 Jun 05 - 08:14 AM
GUEST,Alan J. 15 Jun 05 - 08:22 AM
Dave Earl 15 Jun 05 - 08:26 AM
Lizzie Cornish 15 Jun 05 - 08:31 AM
RobbieWilson 15 Jun 05 - 09:47 AM
GUEST,James H 15 Jun 05 - 09:48 AM
GUEST,Gadaffi 15 Jun 05 - 10:48 AM
ConcertinaChap 15 Jun 05 - 10:51 AM
Schantieman 15 Jun 05 - 12:19 PM
GUEST 15 Jun 05 - 01:29 PM
LesB 15 Jun 05 - 01:48 PM
Lizzie Cornish 15 Jun 05 - 01:58 PM
GUEST,Shooting Roots Fan 15 Jun 05 - 02:14 PM
Lizzie Cornish 15 Jun 05 - 02:34 PM
GUEST,nikki 15 Jun 05 - 02:35 PM
GUEST,Fran L, Coventry 15 Jun 05 - 03:07 PM
The Borchester Echo 15 Jun 05 - 03:30 PM
GUEST,Treasured Islander 15 Jun 05 - 03:53 PM
vectis 15 Jun 05 - 06:37 PM
GUEST,Hen Harrier 15 Jun 05 - 10:57 PM
Cats at Work 16 Jun 05 - 09:26 AM
GUEST,Anonymous 16 Jun 05 - 12:04 PM
Leadfingers 16 Jun 05 - 12:08 PM
Lizzie Cornish 16 Jun 05 - 01:37 PM
GUEST,anonymous 16 Jun 05 - 03:12 PM
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Subject: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 06:56 AM

This thread is directed specifically at people who ARE going to Sidmouth Festival 2005.

I'm trying to find out the consensus of opinion on what we are working towards, so I need to know your individual views on what you want future Sidmouth festivals to be.

Do you prefer:-

1. The International festival that has been a unique event in the calendar for a number of years?

2. A smaller folk festival, which is more performer oriented?

3. Something else?

It would be most helpful if we could keep to the subject of the thread, as that will make it much easier to collate results.

Thank you for your cooperation

Don T.


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 07:01 AM

BTW, for those who are not attending, I would like to stress that you are not being excluded because I am not interested in your opinion, but rather because, by not attending this year you have already expressed your desire for a return to the International Festival, which, for what it's worth, is also my desire.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: GUEST,Blowzabella at work
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 07:22 AM

Don,

Please can I reply, even though I am not attending? The reason I am not attending is not because of a desire to return to an International Festival but, rather because Sidmouth has never really been much of a draw for me previously, because it was too big - hence I have other plans for my holidays. However, after seeing what is planned for 2005 - I would definitely look towards attending it in 2006, if it were following a similar format. I think that it looks like a brilliant programme of events and I would have loved to have been able to go - sadly, (well, not too sadly) I will be sailing round the Western Isles.

Blowz


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: MBSLynne
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 07:39 AM

I've personally never been too bothered by the 'International' aspect of the festival and in recent years I've thought that there were perhaps too many international guests, all of whom have to be paid and accomodated. The festival has grown in the 22 years I've been attending, and added more 'roots' and other music. I haven't been entirely happy with the way it's changed since my early days there, though I realise that the management were trying to make it pay, and without some of the changes we probably would already have lost the festival. On the other hand, I've always liked the fact that it was a big festival. Perhaps what I'd like, is to see it become a little smaller than in recent years, but not too small.

I must admit that, while the loss of the arena as a venue for performers doesn't particularly bother me as I've only ever been to two concerts there in all my year, but what I really regret and will miss terrribly, is the loss of the arena showground. I think a lot of other people will too considering the packed crowds that frequented
it. I loved the range of goods and shopping you could do there, the kids' story glade, the punch and judies, the circus arts bits and so on, and it was yet another place for the childrren to go and enjoy themselves.

What I really want is the Sidmouth I used to know and love, but that isn't possible, so I think the answer is, a smaller festival, though still big and with as much variety and choice as is possible.

Love Lynne


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 08:05 AM

A smaller festival will suit me as I spend most of my time in the sessions, singarounds and workshops, may be only going to a couple of big concerts.


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: Mitch the Bass
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 08:13 AM

I'll be at Sidmouth 2005 as an artist as I have been at 6 previous festival between 1976 to 2004.

I like the diversity of the festival and, when the programme permits, go to concerts (both large and small), workshops, sessions, dances and displays and also visit the shops for instruments and CDs. This includes international performers. I realise that others may have more focussed interests.

It would be possible to have smaller festival whilst retaining the diversity (concerts, sessions, workshops, dances, international content etc), or have a large festival and narrow the focus for example to performance rather than participation.

For me, keep the diversity at whatever scale is viable.

Mitch


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: Malc R
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 08:14 AM

Don

This will be my first Sidmouth, and it is the fact that it is a festival made up of many individual parts allowing me to pick and choose what I see/hear and what I pay for that has enticed me down south.

As I have other commitments at either end of the week I cannot attend for the whole festival so a season ticket would have been of no benefit to me in any case, and unfortunately the ever increasing bureaucracy and 'claim culture' insurances are making commercial performances prohibitively expensive, especially if attending as a family – possibly thread creep, my apologies.

Of the festivals I have attended, I much prefer the "Fringe" sessions to the commercial performances, although it is only at such large festivals that the opportunity to see/hear some of the international artists arises.

Ask again after the festival and you may get some different responses, but considering the event that has been organised in such a short space of time, then 2006 along similar, but more co-ordinated lines, should appeal to many old and new festival goers alike.

Malc


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: GUEST,Alan J.
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 08:22 AM

There is a major issue affecting festivals after 2006 which seems to have been overlooked by almost everyone, hardly surprising as it is hidden in the small print and hasn't been given any publicity by the authorities.
Anything held in non-licensed premises will need a Temporary Event Notice (TEN for short), and there is a limit of 96 hours per TEN, after which there has to be a gap of 24 hours. In other words, if the festival starts on Friday, there should be nothing in the Arena, marquees etc on Tuesday. http://www.culture.gov.uk/cgi-bin/MsmGo.exe?grab_id=43&page_id=11010560&query=TEN&hiword=TEN+
There might be a way out of this if the (East Devon??)council is enthusiastic - local authorities can licence a "public space" which could include the Knowle Arena, Ham and Blackmore Gardens. I suspect that LNE held on farmland would not benefit from this.
I have heard that Teignbridge council are looking to do this with some of their spaces such as the Triangles in Teignmouth, so it might be worth politely suggesting to East devon that they investigate a similar approach in Sidmouth.

Quote from the DCMS site---
"As stated above, local authorities will be encouraged to obtain premises licences to cover public spaces, such as village greens or indeed a number of streets, on which many performances take place. No additional licence would then need to be obtained by anyone else carrying out licensable activities on such premises covered by such a licence, although the consent of the local authority holding the licence would be required and permission given to use the land. But if there is no pre-existing licence, unless your event falls into an exempt category, a premises licence or club premises certificate or temporary event notice is required to authorise the provision of regulated entertainment."


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: Dave Earl
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 08:26 AM

I have rarely been to any of the "International" things in the years I have been coming to Sidmouth. Only the occasional African things that I happen to enjoy.

If Sidmouth evolves in to a smaller participatory festival with some guests that I wish to see I will continue to attend (other circumstances permitting.

I would like the festival to be more a "traditional" song/music/dance
with the accent on the British Isles and perhaps occasional stuff from further afield (Breton,French Canadian and maybe USA.

Not sure how this will fit in with what everybody else thinks but thats my two pennyworth.

Dave Earl


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: Lizzie Cornish
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 08:31 AM

So....The Arena?

Why not have a huge marquee in The Arena in years to come? There's plenty of space for one down on the flat part of Knowle Park. Yes it was lovely to sit on the hillside, but let's face it...it was darn uncomfortable! That hill is just too steep! You slide down it even when it's not raining!! I'm up and down it every day with my dogs and it's a killer. Great if you're a Longdog like mine is, but you really do need 4 feet to cope with it!

I've heard rumours that people are thinking about a covered area for The Arena. The last few years the weather has been dreadful during Festival week and when you're paying a lot of money for tickets, (we've got a family so x everything by 4) it's great to know that the weather really doesn't matter! That's why this year for the first time EVER, we bought our tickets in advance and all the previous years we've waited until the same day....often deciding not to go at the last minute because of the experience of slipping down that hill in thick mud! If there was a Marquee in The Arena we'd also buy tickets in advance.

All the other things could still take place as always. As long as special care was taken to centre everything around the town as well, thus including all the shopkeepers and local traders once more. It should all work beautifully!

Knowle Park is a beautiful space, but it had almost become the centre of the Folk Festival. Sidmouth is a beautiful town and this year I think a lot more people will be seeing the town in greater depth for the first time. I've had friends who, in the past, have only visited The Arena and nowhere else in town!! They got everything they wanted from The Arena so didn't bother with anything else!

I'm really looking forward to something a bit different this year. Although I very much loved the Festivals of the past it had become the same every year. The same children's entertainment in the same places, the same craft stalls, the same food stalls. It had somehow lost a bit of sparkle. I agree that sometimes it's nice to know that the same things will be there, like the Storytelling Tree and the Storyteller's Chair, but you need a bit of change too. Spices it all up!

I adore all the singers and dancers from around the world, but honestly, if an Arena Marquee becomes part of future Festivals, I can't see any reason why they won't all come flooding back again, but this time to a guaranteed, packed out, DRY...audience! It was wonderful seeing all the dancers wandering around town in their incredible costumes, but I'm sure it will all come back!

Always the optimist!

Can't wait for 2005 as it will be one of a kind and to have it at all is a huge blessing! SO looking forward to watching those torches being doused in the sea again this year. I've missed it in previous years as we live up by The Arena and always waited at the top to see the performers go past, then we'd go home as my young lad was wilting on his feet by then and we live very close to The Arena. So...I thought I'd missed the opportunity of ever seeing those torches again...but....here we are...2005 and it's happening!!

I'm overjoyed, don't know about anyone else. :0)

And I can't wait for 2006 either!

Lizzie :0)


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: RobbieWilson
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 09:47 AM

I have never been tempted by the "International" tag at Sidmouth, though I have been by the World Of Music and Dance in Reading. I have been tempted by tales of people playing music around every corner and of great music in the Middle Bar but the price tag for a full week with kids has always been well beyond my reach.

I don't think, personally, that paid concerts are what makes a festival special. I live near Birmingham and could see top class music and dance from all around the world virtually 365 days a year if I wanted to.

It is the friendliness and shared sense of enjoyment that makes for a special festival and I am loking forward to Sidmouth 2005 because I expect to come across quite a bit of that.
Love Robbie


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: GUEST,James H
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 09:48 AM

Hi Don,

can I also reply even though I won't be there this year? (I've got other commitments that would have won out over Sidmouth as a one off whatever the plans had been for this year's festival). I'd have probably gone otherwise, but whether I'm there or not isn't the full story about what I'd like for the future.

I loved the Mrs Casey style of the festival for the last few years but don't mind the idea of it all being a little less commercial and on a smaller scale. But whatever the tone of the overall event, the things I think it would be a crying shame to lose in the long run would be:
* the ceilidh scene - what has in recent years been the festival dance house - which has been the key focus for a lot of the younger end of the festival. In particular, having it all in one place within walking distance of the campsite, having an earlier event and then an LNE.
* the atmosphere of the arena with all the crowds & the stalls & music & noise - the feeling of being at a fairground I guess.
* Shooting Roots
* such a huge variety of performers of different styles, and performances of different styles too (from big arena shows to big amplified concerts and ceilidhs, to small intimate acoustic concerts in the arts centre, to dancing in the street, and to sessions & singarounds in the pubs. I like a bit of everything!

James H


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: GUEST,Gadaffi
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 10:48 AM

There will be a forum held in the Arts Centre at Sidmouth on the Friday of Sidmouth Folk Week to discuss 'Sidmouth 2005 and Beyond'. Among those expected to be present are Eddie Upton, Derek Schofield and Gordon Newton with myself hosting.
Positive suggestions for the Festival's future will be invited. Please bear in mind that some of us have put a lot of time, energy, and in some cases personal cash at risk to foster this year's success with a view to ensure its future.


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: ConcertinaChap
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 10:51 AM

I'd like to see the return of some of the events that Mrs Casey saw fit to stop over the years (Sidmouth Singer of the Year comes to mind). Generally, the longer Mrs Casey were in charge the less I liked the way the festival was changing. So, yes, a return to an earlier style of festival would suit me well, which could include the international elements.

Chris


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: Schantieman
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 12:19 PM

I'll be there with Ms Lemon.

We both like taking part - singing (on stage, in pubs & anywhere else, both solo, together & joining in big choruses), dancing (preferably English dances with acoustic bands) and (in my case) playing. We're not interested in sitting in concerts (except rarely), foreign "roots" music, blues, folk-rock or loud, electonically amplified music of any origin.

And we like selling lots of lemonade!

Steve


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 01:29 PM

I'm with James H in regretting the loss of the Shooting Roots/ Dance House part of the old Sidmouth, which seemed to be what was attracting so many younger people and getting them dancing/ playing/ singing - in other words, becoming our future. I can see that the 2005 festival will be very good for the older crowd of regulars and I'm sure will be fine for some years to come, but it's not now really that different from many other festival bills around the country other than the location. The costs of travelling all the way to the SW and expensive local accomodation do now deter many people like me who are realising they can get much the same thing nearer to home. It's a nice bill, but the festival doesn't look unique any more and I think early-teens might be a bit bored for the whole week. So I'm sorry, I'm not coming this year.

Still, with the announcement about New Boots! at Bracknell in 2006, that'll provide something good for the young Shooting Roots/LNE people from next year, so maybe two good festivals have come out of one which can't be a bad thing :-)


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: LesB
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 01:48 PM

I am another in the 'i'm not going but can I say something' catagory.
Don is wrong in assuming that because I am not going it is because I prefer the previous style of Sidmouth. In my case I have never been to Sidmouth and never had much desire to go, due to lack of time, distance and not being prepared to pay the costs involved.
Cheers
Les


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: Lizzie Cornish
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 01:58 PM

'Guest' above...Shooting Roots aren't coming this year, true. But what about all those young students from Newcastle Uni. who are coming down for 'Young Sidmouth' especially to teach and inspire the youngsters? They will be getting as much attention and absorbing as much enthusiasm as they always do.

What about the £5,000 given by Sidmouth Town Council to fund a wide variety of different activities specifically for children and young people?

Also James said that he HOPED that these things wouldn't go. I am absolutely positive that they won't. We all know that the more our young people are brought into Folk Music and Traditions, the longer it will carry on. They are the future and as such would surely be at the top of any and all Festival Organisers agendas, throughout the country.

Lizzie :0)


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: GUEST,Shooting Roots Fan
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 02:14 PM

To James H., Guest and Lizzie Cornish, all bemoaning the fact that Shooting Roots aren't coming to Sidmouth this year.

Laurel Swift and her Shooting Roots team are all going to the Eastleigh Festival in Hampshire instead where they will be hosting their usual fantastic workshops and sessions during the first weekend of August.

Some information on Eastleigh can be found at http://www.eastfest.co.uk and Laurel tells me the Shooting Roots details should be added to the website in the next few days.

As for the theme of this thread, it's because Shooting Roots have moved from Sidmouth to Eastleigh that I too (and my sisters) are also giving Sidmouth a miss this year and going to Eastleigh instead.

A lot of the younger element from Sidmouth seem to be doing the same.

If you want to attract us back to Sidmouth in 2006 then bring back Shooting Roots and all the things for young people.

Sidmouth 2005 seems far too elitist and just for oldies.

Sally


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: Lizzie Cornish
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 02:34 PM

Hmmmmm......Sally! Perhaps you need a Siddy Programme.

I wasn't bemoaning the fact that Shooting Roots aren't coming at all. I merely acknowledged it.

I'm really looking forward to seeing the young people from Newcastle Uni who ARE coming to Sidmouth to promote folk music for our children and younger people. Well done all of them for coming down! It's much appreciated!! My kids will definitely be attending some of their workshops.

I wish Shooting Roots well at Eastleigh though.

Oh and 'Sally'....my daughter is 18 and she and her friends can't wait for Siddy to happen this year! So....there you go! Don't forget that Sidmouth is a very quiet place the rest of the year, so when The Festival or Folk Week comes round the youngsters down here love it!

Sidmouth is anything but elitist this year. Exactly the opposite actually. It's going to be full of warm and friendly people who are all coming for the right reasons and it will be far more personal than in years gone by.

Can't wait! Different strokes for different folks, that's all.

Hope you enjoy Eastleigh.

Lizzie :0)


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: GUEST,nikki
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 02:35 PM

I never was going to Sidmouth 2005. I am dancing in France instead this year. However I was more than happy with the big International event- the only one like it in the country. Whitby and Broadstairs were the only other week long festivals that I know of and they are not the same thing at all. Whitby is excellent but the atmosphere is quite different.

There are lots of smaller weekend festivals, all very different but Sidmouth has to be something special. Just a long drawn out weekend festival will in my opinion not continue to draw the crowds.
A lot of people will be going in 2005 to see what its like. If it doesn't meet their expectations will they return again in 2006?

My vote is for the big International Festival with the diversity of events that attract the oldies, the families and all the youngsters.


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: GUEST,Fran L, Coventry
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 03:07 PM

I liked the way that the "International" made it different. I wasn't fond of sitting with the wrinklies in the arena, especially when it rained!, but the dance teams made things like processions so much fun and I have lovely memories of Italians in sessions in the back of the Bedford. My daughter didn't want to go this year without the dance house and all her friends on the campsite nearby, so she has persuaded me to try W.O.M.A.D. for the first time as some of her college friends go regularly and say it's a big family affair. It's a shame she didn't know about Eastleigh. What is this New Boots somebody has referred to?


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 03:30 PM

New Boots will, subject to funding, take place at Southhill Park, Bracknell, on 7 - 9 July 2006. This new event will centre on that unique combination of the Shooting Roots events, the Dance House and LNE and the social scene of the camp site and is intended to turn the usual folk festival model on its head. Ceilidhs, dances and workshops for musicians, dancers, singers and callers will be central and smaller concerts would be the chill-out zone. It will be very participatory and have a sub-purpose of training up new people in the organisational and infrastructure skills.


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: GUEST,Treasured Islander
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 03:53 PM

For Fran L - there's some more about New Boots here

I'm sure you'll enjoy Womad. I went last year and it was magic - people of all ages and cultures, maybe ten stages / workshops /events running at once so there's always something to discover - even a ceilidh!

I hope you and your daughter and her friends will come back to Sidmouth another year when they heard how 2005 went.


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: vectis
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 06:37 PM

Sidmouth had become too big and I have rarely attended the concerts since I got so deafened in The Bedford that it took me two days to recover my hearing.
This year sounds much better, I've even booked some concert tickets already. The new organisers have put the FOLK back into Sidmouth and should be applauded.


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: GUEST,Hen Harrier
Date: 15 Jun 05 - 10:57 PM

Some of my most enjoyable and memorable moments over the last 18 years have been with the international content, especially the "Meet the Team" events which were very heart-warming, moving and summed up (for me) exactly WHY I was there. A very real, 3-way process was going on, inter-action between compere, performers and audience and I'm sure, new friendships being formed. ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL!

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE BRING IT ALL BACK!


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: Cats at Work
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 09:26 AM

Both Jon and I are there, and, for the first time for many years are staying for the whole week. We are there both as performers and as 'punters'. As with so many, the international side has not really bothered us and we are not huge concert goers but do like to see up and coming performers as well as some of the ones who have been around for as long as we have. We are definitley 'doers' and like to have places to sing, play and, for me, the storytelling is important too. The festival became too big a few years ago and moved away from what we looked for in a festival. We are trying to 'do our bit' to keep it going so others can enjoy what they look for in a festival. Come and support us if you would like to.


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: GUEST,Anonymous
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 12:04 PM

I been going to Sidmouth since 1981 and have seen alot of changes but thes are a limit £400.00 for the whole week is pathetic idea.I am of to Eastleigh where Lizzie and Don wont be around.

Anonymous


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: Leadfingers
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 12:08 PM

I am another one who is not really interested in the International aspects of sidders , except when the musicians wander into the session I help out at ! I will be in The New Tavern again this year and Gerry Milne and I will extend a cordial welcome to any singers or musicians who want to join us !


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: Lizzie Cornish
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 01:37 PM

Hey 'Anon'...Watch out or I'll be coming to Eastleigh too! ;0)

Actually...I've just had a quick peek at their site and they don't have Show of Hands!!! GASP!.....OR The Duncan McFarlane Band!!! DOUBLE GASP!!

AND there's no Sidmouth Streaker who runs across the Bowling Green every year and turns all the Ladies In Lavender into Giggling Teenagers again!!!

I'm telling you...we know how to live life on the wild side down here! ;0)

Lizzie :0)


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: GUEST,anonymous
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 03:12 PM

Your so sad you pratt of a person!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: The Barden of England
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 04:28 PM

Don't feed the Trolls Liz - ignore them and they'll go away


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: GUEST,'Glad we're going to Sidmouth'
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 04:31 PM

Glad to read you are attending Eastleigh Guest Annoymous. Thank goodness we are going to Sidmouth and will be where you are not. You sound a very angry sad and unpleasant person yourself.

Our family have been going for many years and will be there agin as always this year. It will be good to see a smaller version of what has gone before and who knows what may come next year. We will be there for 2006. We decided to support the Folk Week this year come what may as we have a lot of fond Sidmouth memories.


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: GUEST,Anonymous
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 05:51 PM

I too have not missed one Sidmouth since 1981.You dont know me so why say what you did above.I have know the pratt Lizzie for several years,so keep your "nose" out of my business.I am leaving Sidmouth to go too Eastleigh where the traders will welcome us with open arms,you can keep the Sidmouth traders happy until i return home.


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 06:58 PM

MBS Lynne:
"I've thought that there were perhaps too many international guests, all of whom have to be paid and accomodated."

Erm, surely all performers are paid and accomodated?!!!


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 07:31 PM

HHRRUUMMPPHH!.... Remember me? I'm the one who asked a simple question thirty five posts back.

What happened?..... I leave the house for an evening at my folk club, and when I come home the children are fighting again.

Stop it!....It's silly!

That's better, Now where were we?

Don T


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: Bonecruncher
Date: 16 Jun 05 - 07:58 PM

Hi Don
For what it's worth my preference is for a smaller, performer-orientated ferstival, with a smaller international element.
Like others, I have fond memories of some of the international teams and "big names" but, for me, the wide variety of events was the main attraction.
Hope this helps.
See you there
Colyn.


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: GUEST,Jane and the kids
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 04:16 AM

We're going to both WOMAD and Eastleigh instead of Sidmouth this year but unlike "Anonymous" we hope those who still go to Sidmouth have as good a time as we have in past years.

It's the international music that has attracted us to WOMAD now the international side of Sidmouth has been dropped and it's the funky celtic bands plus Bellowhead, Ashley Hutchings, Lunasa and Michael McGoldrick that have attracted us to Eastleigh.

I always loved the international arena at Sidmouth. That made it for me. No arena. No Sidmouth. It won't be the same but there are clearly people who welcome a smaller event. I have no argument with them. Each to their own. We'll have a great time at WOMAD and Eastleigh. Lizzie, Don and others will have a great time at Sidmouth.

If we all end up happy that's fine.


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: Lizzie Cornish
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 07:52 AM

John....I'll take your advice! But....could I just say that I SO don't know Anonymouse ;0)....Phew!

Our tickets for Sidmouth came in the post today!!! Hurray!!!!!!

I'm now a very Happy Bunny!

Lizzie :0)


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: GUEST,Anonymous
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 09:57 AM

Lizzie is a Trouble Maker,you ask anyone around Sidmouth!!!!!You can go and screw yourself Lizzie.


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: GUEST,rhyzla - up the back tube!
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 10:07 AM

Nice intelligent contribution 'anonymous' - that's the way to get people on your side, and believe you!

Haven't actually heard any of the other 'real' sidmouth residents coming on here saying Lizzie is a trouble maker - maybe an eyebrow-raiser, but no worse methinks!

Ho-hum!


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: GUEST,Anonymous.
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 10:26 AM

Rhyzla,
Who said i wanted anybody on my side only you!!!!!!.


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: GUEST,The Barden of England
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 10:28 AM

Don't feed the Trolls!!


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: GUEST,Yo
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 03:40 PM

Why is it that every time someone starts a sensible thread on Sidmouth Lizzie sticks her oar in and the whole thing ends up a slanging match?

As so many others have said on mudcat and elsewhere all this mud-slinging and name-calling is turning people away from Sidmouth in droves.

Is that really what Lizzie wants?


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 04:06 PM

No, GUEST Yo,

That's not what Lizzie wants. Her style may be a little over exuberant, at times, but she is a genuine Sidmouth supporter, as am I.

We have both come under fire on this subject from people who are, almost exclusively, anonymous. Not too surprising since few of them intend a contribution to the subject under discussion. I try to make my posts reasoned and well thought out comment on the topic, and hope to receive the same in return. But, at some point, there is an attempt to divert the thread to a catfight between us and those who want this year's festival to fail.

I am just grateful that our period as targets is almost over. Once the festival has succeeded perhaps the trolls will return to ambushing small goats (grins).

Now I would like to thank all who have made on topic replies (attenders and non attenders). I am most grateful to you.

Does anyone else have anything useful to add? I will be pleased to hear from you.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: EagleWing
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 04:29 PM

Yo said "Why is it that every time someone starts a sensible thread on Sidmouth Lizzie sticks her oar in and the whole thing ends up a slanging match?"

{Troll feeding} Sorry about feeding the trolls but I've just read the whole of this thread and Lizzie's contributions were all positive. The only negative or trouble making posts were the usual anonymous guests who love to attack her. I've had my own run-ins with Lizzie but I can't see why these cowards make excuses to attack her for simply being here.{/Troll feeding}

Yo, please read the thread. Lizzie is not to blame for the slanging match above - that was Hey Nonny Mouse.

Frank L


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: Lizzie Cornish
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 04:55 PM

Ahh! Frank....come over here and have a ((((hug!))))

I was wondering where you'd gone. It's good to see you back again.

I'm sorry I yelled at you Frank....I just get exasperated with it all sometimes. John's right, none of us should rise to the bait, but we do occasionally and I'm sorry you got caught in the cross-fire with the Radio 2 nastiness that was going on.....that was making me pretty damned miserable actually, but it's all over now. I'm done with them all.

Don is also right, we both get tired and feel pretty fed up sometimes. I haven't seen Don post one negative thing about Sidmouth and after nearly a whole year of being insulted it does get you down sometimes. Glad there's a 'pot of gold' at the end of it all though.

Only 42 days to go now!

Hope we can be friends now.

Lots of Love

Lizzie :0)


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: GUEST
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 05:02 PM

Watch yourself Lizzie you got plenty of enermies in the scene.


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: EagleWing
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 07:21 PM

Watch yourself Lizzie you got plenty of enermies in the scene.

But I'm not one of them. Lizzie and I can yell at each other without becoming enemies.

On topic(ish) I'm afraid I won't be at Sidmouth but that's due to:

a) Distance
2) Overall price
iii) Clash with other things

Frank


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Subject: RE: 'Sidmouth 2005 attenders'
From: Tattie Bogle
Date: 17 Jun 05 - 07:45 PM

I would be happy to see a smaller festival - if only becouse it would reduce the number of horrible decisions you had to make about whom to miss as there was so MUCH to choose from! (e.g. last year the Steeleye Span 30th anniversary concert was on at the same time as Danu - I went to the former in the hope that Danu would be around a bit longer, and eventually caught up with them at Girvan this year)
I shall miss the opportunities to learn the international dances if we have no international teams.
We have my in-laws in the town, who kindly put up with me coming in after the Bedford turns out every night. We live over 400 miles away, and maybe if we didn't have the rels there and had to pay for accommodation(2 mms please!) we might not come every year, as there is the "Common Ground" festival (Much, much younger than Sidmouth) in Ayrshire at the same time.
I am very much looking forward to this year's folk week as it looks as if most of my interests are going to be included - concerts, sessions, singing, dancing. Can I give a further verdicy after the week is over? - or during, or at the above-mentioned meeting.
TB


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