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Clinton Hammond 02 Jun 05 - 01:36 PM
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Peace 02 Jun 05 - 02:47 PM
ToulouseCruise 02 Jun 05 - 02:48 PM
Dave (the ancient mariner) 02 Jun 05 - 03:04 PM
frogprince 02 Jun 05 - 03:25 PM
George Papavgeris 02 Jun 05 - 03:26 PM
ToulouseCruise 02 Jun 05 - 03:28 PM
Rapparee 02 Jun 05 - 03:33 PM
George Papavgeris 02 Jun 05 - 03:33 PM
Melani 02 Jun 05 - 03:42 PM
Phil Cooper 02 Jun 05 - 04:07 PM
Strollin' Johnny 02 Jun 05 - 04:13 PM
GUEST,Dan in Nova Scotia 02 Jun 05 - 04:20 PM
George Papavgeris 02 Jun 05 - 04:41 PM
HipflaskAndy 02 Jun 05 - 05:23 PM
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Subject: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 01:36 PM

June 2nd, 1983....

"So tonight I'll wish upon these stars
As they rise upward to guide me
That I'll see you here just as you are
Now, as then, beside me
Scares me how the years have flown
Like the leaves drift in September
They've lost sight of you as your legacy's grown
But this road and I
We remember"
-Garnet Rogers, "Night Drive"-

Wish I'd been around to see you when you were here Stan... I'm VERY grateful that I can still hear you, at least.

See ya down the road, some day or other, Stan

Thanks


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: gnu
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 01:48 PM

I was listening to Stan's tapes last night and most of the day today. Thanks, Stan. RIP.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Peace
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 02:47 PM

Ditto the boys above, Stan.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 02:48 PM

I remember two years ago, when it was the 20th anniversary of his death. I was rather disappointed that there was absolutely no media mention, printed or visual, regarding this fine Canadian. Nice to know he won't be forgotten!

"Ah, for just one time I would take the Northwest Passage
To find the hand of Franklin reaching for the Beaufort Sea;
Tracing one warm line through a land so wild and savage
And make a Northwest Passage to the sea.."

Brian


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 03:04 PM

A writer of songs that catch the heart and soul of Canada and the human condition. Northwest Passage is a Canadian anthem, and stands out as the signature tune for a wonderful man. Glad his family are continuing with his legacy. Garnet is a star in his own right now. Thank you Stan, your music lives on forever.

Yours, Aye. Dave


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: frogprince
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 03:25 PM

You don't have to be Canadian. Stan was a richly and rarely gifted man.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 03:26 PM

One of the greatest contemporary songwriters in the world.
I remember watching reports of the accident on TV, years before I heard of Stan or his music, giving rise to the following:

They say you were a big man, Stan,
They say that you could shade the sun
Just standing there a solid six foot four;
And when it was your turn to sing
The windowpanes they say would ring
As your voice seemed to rise up through the floor.
If every thing about you was just half of what they say
It would have been enough to turn me green.
Yet I didn't know the treasure that was lost that summer's day
As I watched your death upon a TV screen.

Proud child of the Maritimes
The people you'd recall and times
When living could be earned with honest toil;
And passionately sang of those
Who through the centuries opposed
The forces that would raid your native soil.
Ten thousand miles away from you and twenty years too late
Your messages did reach me loud and clear;
Though little of your world I knew, your passion was so great
That I'm not ashamed to say I shed a tear.

The world you spoke of gone is now
The times have changed and still somehow
The words you wrote now even more apply.
I am not family or friend;
This song I don't know where to send.
Perhaps you'll hear if I sing to the sky.
And one thing I can promise is we never will forget
The giant with the voice that hearts could fill.
The power of your songs will always catch souls in the net
And through the songs the man is living still.

And I wish I could have met you
And I wish I'd known you well
For your songs are ringing in my ears
As clear as any bell;
But every time we reach out
In chorus or refrain,
Like the Mary Ellen Carter
In our hearts you rise again.

"I wish I could have met you" - George Papavgeris, 2003
PS Don't start about the "child of the Maritimes" bit, we had that conversation last year.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: ToulouseCruise
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 03:28 PM

hehe, El G. I saw that right away and thought about mentioning it, then I thought, "Hell, Stan himself took some historical liberties on 'Barretts Privateers', so why not?"

Brian


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 03:33 PM

And when I reach that last big shoal
Where the groundswells break asunder,
Where the wild sands roll to the surge's toll
Let me be a man and take it
When my dory fails to make it.

Oh take me back to that snug green cove
Where the seas roll up their thunder
There let me rest
In the Earth's cool breast
Where the stars shine out their wonder
And the seas roll up their thunder.


He didn't write it, but he did record it....


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 03:33 PM

In the end we agreed that he was their "spiritual" child, though genetically once removed :-)


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Melani
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 03:42 PM

He'll certainly never be forgotten as long as people sing.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 04:07 PM

I feel priveledged to have seen and met Stan a couple times when he was through Illinois. I have some photos a friend took of Stan and Garnet playing at Charlotte's Webb (to an audience of 11, boy folks didn't know what they were missing)that are great.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Strollin' Johnny
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 04:13 PM

Only the good die young.
Gone, but never forgotten Stan, thanks for the songs.
RIP
S:0)


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: GUEST,Dan in Nova Scotia
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 04:20 PM

And it will be I'll come again
To loved ones left at home
Put the journals on the mantle
Bake the frost out of my bones
Leaving memories far behind me
Only memories after all
And hardships then the hardest to recall

Ah for just one time....

I'll have a chance to sing this and other Stan songs in A Matter of Heart, June 21-25 at the Sterling Festival Theatre in Sterling Ontario. Hopefully see some of you there.

Next time I'm oin the UK I'll be expecting that full chorus.

Thanks Stan.

Cheers,

Dan


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 04:41 PM

Have a good one, Dan; and I hope you get to sing "MEC" again while playing Stan's 12-string... If you do, remember me.

V & I remember you and N


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: HipflaskAndy
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 05:23 PM

Hi Dan - you made my year singing the chorus of Northwest Passage on the end of the Trad 'Franklin' at the Moor and Coast Fest. Once again - thanks!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: GUEST,Dan in Nova Scotia
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 05:56 PM

Hello El Greko and V and Hipflask,

I've been so wrapped up in working on Stan's music for the show I almost forgot what day it was. Quite a way to spend June 2nd, listening to Stan for hours... and hours....

My two favorites of Stan's are Mary Ellen Carter and North West Passage and I'm just happy to be able to do lend my voice to them. Next time across we'll raise the roof with a few good choruses so they'll be able to hear it back here in Canada.

On a personal note, I'll also be having the Canadian release of my latest cd "Fields of Dreams and Glory" on June 11th which will be taped by CBC Radio locally here in Halifax, Nova Scotia. The special guest accompianist is Paul Mills, aka Curly Boy Stubbs. You never know what might happen....

(I'll start a new thread about this soon.)

Rise again....

Cheers,

Dan


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Jeri
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 06:12 PM

I never met him, and I never heard his music until he was gone. Still, there are many places a person can start from when beginning a journey, and Stan's music was one for me. He wrote many songs that many people wanted to sing. Nowadays, people tend to write more for people to listen than to steal.

I wonder what you'd say if you were here
Where the answers are never easy nor the questions even clear
And heroes have to learn their strength and angels earn their wings
And one single life can change so many things
...and one single life can change so many things


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 06:13 PM

I knew 'Barrett's Privateers' and the 'Mary Ellen Carter' from others' recordings but only came across 'Home in Halifax' and 'North West Passage' some months back. They're among my favourite albums now. What a songwriter! What a singer!


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Dave Swan
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 06:15 PM

Yes indeed, a hell of a singer and songwriter.

I never miss a chance to visit the Copper King when I'm in the Yukon.

I had quite a talk with him a few days before the accident, and he was warm and friendly. We had a few drinks and a few laughs.

Nice going, Stan.

D


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: gnu
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 06:18 PM

A few?


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: JedMarum
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 06:40 PM

I too remember hearing about the accident - and had never heard of Stan, at the time. It was many years later that I learned, and loved his music.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 02 Jun 05 - 06:52 PM

*Singing*
"But the deck is too steady...
Down at the Sailors Rest"

Probably my fav Stan song...

:-)


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Devilmaster
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 01:28 AM

'Ah your anchor chain's a fetter
And with it you are tethered to the foam,
And I wouldn't trade your whole life for just one hour of home.'

Stan Rogers Articles - From the London Free Press, 2 days after the plane accident.

Steve


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: TS
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 11:07 AM

Was nothing but a kitten when Stan left life in this world. Grew up listening to him but had a re-birth at last year's StanFest in Canso. A must attend for all frends of Stan. The number of people he has touched through lyrics...amazing! Met Ariel that night. A gem.. you almost feel like you really knew Stan just by speaking with her. Dia Dhuit Stan!


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Metchosin
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 11:52 AM

In memory of Stan, help make the JUNOS stand for something, other than bull shit.


Stan Rogers Petition


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 12:06 PM

"Mary Ellen Carter" helped me get through a very rough time back about 1988.   And "MacDonnell On the Heights" did in 1997. Other songs that have touched me are "The Idiot," "The Field Behind The Plow," "Fogarty's Cove," "Bluenose," "Free In The Harbour," "Sailors' Rest," -- oh, heck, an awful lot of them.

And, it should go without saying, "North West Passage."


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: breezy
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 01:24 PM

Gone but not forgotten.

45 years was the first track I heard him sing

Thanks also to Eric Bogle for recording Lock-keeper and Artisan for airing Mary Ellen Carter on the radio

thanks to Marilyn Middleton for sing a clutch of S R

And please keep singing him Dan, although your Fields of Dreams and Glory is a worthy album and I hope it is received with the same plus factor .


Is he {SR} still played at the Oh Canada exposition at Epcot as the theme music to the film?


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: TS
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 01:33 PM

Now thtat I think about it...Stan has played a major role in my normal set lists...Fogarty's Cove, Barrett's Privateers, Mary Ellen Carter, and Forty-Five Years are all on the list of my band...my solo stuff includes the above along with Sailor's Rest, Lies, Acadian Saturday Night, White Squall, and Field Behind the Plow. Thanks again Stan!


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 03 Jun 05 - 11:17 PM

There's a lot of great songs that Stan wrote. I knew a relationship I was in was in trouble when "Forty-Five Years" stopped running through my head when I was hanging around with the party of the second part. (It had been replaced with Richard Thompson's "Walking on a Wire"). Our Christmas band still performs "First Christmas Away From Home." Another Stan song I really like is "Harris and the Mare." Though, I find it's hard to do. If it's over sung, it's ruined, which is why you don't hear a lot of people do it.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: breezy
Date: 04 Jun 05 - 10:26 AM

For Harris you have to be a very good singer, Marilyn Middleton does it well.

At last I'm ready for..... I know its early but a great seasonal song at any time of year if you can count off the days!!!

many of Stan's songs are performed better by many other singers, Artisan did justice to MECarter IMHO


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Charley Noble
Date: 04 Jun 05 - 10:32 AM

Thanks also for "The Jeanie C," and his rendition of Archie Fisher's "Witch of the Westmerland.

And for the memories of hosting Stan and the gang at Rivendell Co-op in Lansing, Michigan, so many years ago.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 04 Jun 05 - 12:52 PM

" many of Stan's songs are performed better by many other singers"

I hear lots who THINK they are....


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Jun 05 - 06:10 PM

You got that right, Clinton. Meself and the lads used to perform a half dozen or so of his songs. But, we also used to tell the crowd where they could buy the 'real tapes' and enjoy the 'real tunes'.

Man, we used to have some good times with his music. Everyone around here knew (knows) the tunes and all you had to do was hit the first note and the crowd would get into it.... Pumpin' like mad men all the way...

I wonder what he might have done had he not been taken too soon.

Aw, shite, I sound like a wounded puppy. Enough.

gnight


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: frogprince
Date: 04 Jun 05 - 08:10 PM

I was lucky enough to at least see Stan live from a distance,
performing in Chicago; I had already been hearing some of the
great songs for years. I saw the hairline, and knew his
established reputation, and I guess I assumed he was pushing
50, until years after he was gone when I learned he died at
33. He had to have emerged as a force, and gained recognition
for it, quite young. With the breadth and strength of his
material, and the power of that voice, I don't think this was
a case of being saved from obscurity by dying at the right time.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: GUEST,Charley Noble
Date: 05 Jun 05 - 10:18 AM

I remember being at a Peoples Music Weekend gathering in New York when the news came of the fire aboard Stan's plane and his death. It was a sad time but at least we had good friends to help sing him home.

Charley Noble, who still misses the big lug with the heart of gold


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Willie-O
Date: 06 Jun 05 - 09:22 AM

Hey Guest Dan in NS, is that a missing verse to "NW Passage" which was written by Stan? Verrrrrry intriguing.

Bill Cameron


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: GUEST,Bernie
Date: 06 Jun 05 - 12:14 PM

I never think of Stan without thinking of Kate Wolf,both of them gone so early.....and reflecting on what might have been.......I wish more people could hear her lovely tribute to the man "All he ever saw was you"[reminiscent,of course,of "Forty five years].....

And now the flame is out,but the light burns on
No one ever said he was bigger than his songs
So few ever knew the heart inside the man
But he gave himself away,as only poets can

He took the stories of his people,and gave them back in rhyme
But, for the pleasures of the hearth ,there was never enough time
He said one day he'd quit,and then he would come home
but there was always one more stage,always one more road

CH:
The candle's burning at both ends,it's burning in the middle
but there's no time to stop between the guitar and the fiddle
A crazy tune,a crazy time,but you know the words were true
Smiles lit their eyes,but all he ever saw was you

And the road finally claimed him,like a sailor lost at sea
Setting sail on a horizon that would not let him be
Following a star that drew him like a flame
And tho' he loved you well,it was not the same

The candle's burning........


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: GUEST,John Cowan
Date: 21 Jan 09 - 12:17 AM

I heard the announcement at the Clearwater Festival, the best place and the worst place to hear it. Stan had played Clearwater a year or two before, and then we'd heard him close up and personal at Spencertown, NY (a few miles from my house) and bought all four albums (that's all there were then, LPs) on the spot. Still have 'em.

I never saw him in person again after that, but bought all the albums religiously, since upgraded to CDs. I sing his songs to myself and my family a lot.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: breezy
Date: 21 Jan 09 - 03:36 AM

link/search to Stan Rogers Youtube


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Megan L
Date: 21 Jan 09 - 03:42 AM

Try this one Barrats Pivateers


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: breezy
Date: 21 Jan 09 - 04:08 AM

Thank you Megan L , have a house point

i just dont know how its done yet

then go to

Nathan Rogers Youtube

and find him doing Field behind the Plow, the hairline , the voice, the legacy

And I believe

he's coming to the Uk in 09

Did I hear Herga Folk Club mentioned?


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Megan L
Date: 21 Jan 09 - 04:16 AM

Breezy don't know if i do the clickies the easiest way but what i do is
1. in another window open the thing i want you to look at
2 highlight thewriting in the address bar. so for the page we are on at the moment it would read http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=81707&messages=46
3. go down to the bottom of theis page you will find   (Make a link ("blue clicky") )
4. in the top box paste the link you copied
5 in the next box down give it a title (The name of the song or a keyword)
6. click on CREATE LINK
7. copy the link including the arrows at both ends
8 paste the link into your message and there ya go :)


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: breezy
Date: 21 Jan 09 - 04:32 AM

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zAvuCMJ3EBk&feature=related




i did try

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zAvuCMJ3EBk&feature=related


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: breezy
Date: 21 Jan 09 - 04:33 AM

have i done it

What did you get?

please confirm


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: breezy
Date: 21 Jan 09 - 04:37 AM

Thanks Stan

and Megan L

xxx

Idiot


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 21 Jan 09 - 05:00 AM

now you've done your first blue clicky the universe is yours!

Megan's way is a good one. Some folks just paste in a website eg. www.google.com - without the http:// in front & wonder why their clicky doesn't work.

If it doesn't include the http:// the blickifier treats it as a page from www.mudcat.org

sandra


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: topical tom
Date: 21 Jan 09 - 11:04 AM

Stan was a truly great singer-songwriter. I saw him once live at the Owen Sound Summerfolk Festival and was blown away by his performance.

Eric Bogle's tribute to Stan Rogers is a really moving one.


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 21 Jan 09 - 11:31 AM

Stan's son Nathan has been writing and performing his own outstanding songs. There are some comparisions with his father, especially the magnificent voice and quality of songwriting, but Nathan is unique.   We are presenting him at the Hurdy Gurdy in Fair Lawn on Saturday March 7.   www.hurdygurdyfolk.org


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Subject: RE: In Memory: Stan Rogers
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 21 Jan 09 - 12:12 PM

And Nathan's over here (UK) in the Summer.

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo-Hoo! :-)


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