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BS: Anti-semitism

Dewey 15 Mar 05 - 06:42 AM
Pied Piper 15 Mar 05 - 06:58 AM
John Hardly 15 Mar 05 - 07:12 AM
Noreen 15 Mar 05 - 07:27 AM
Noreen 15 Mar 05 - 07:34 AM
GUEST,hughie & louie 15 Mar 05 - 07:36 AM
Dewey 15 Mar 05 - 08:56 AM
wysiwyg 15 Mar 05 - 09:02 AM
Dewey 15 Mar 05 - 09:11 AM
GUEST,Nerd 15 Mar 05 - 09:35 AM
Pied Piper 15 Mar 05 - 09:41 AM
Dewey 15 Mar 05 - 10:22 AM
Peace 15 Mar 05 - 10:28 AM
Peace 15 Mar 05 - 10:30 AM
Peace 15 Mar 05 - 10:34 AM
Dewey 15 Mar 05 - 10:35 AM
Peace 15 Mar 05 - 10:55 AM
Big Mick 15 Mar 05 - 11:10 AM
Dewey 15 Mar 05 - 11:26 AM
Peace 15 Mar 05 - 11:35 AM
Noreen 15 Mar 05 - 11:36 AM
GUEST 15 Mar 05 - 12:02 PM
robomatic 15 Mar 05 - 12:53 PM
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Subject: BS: Anti-semitism/Star of David
From: Dewey
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 06:42 AM

I am not anti-semitic. I have never said one hateful thing towards any Jewish person, and it is a total shock to me to see my thread, Bill D. Hates Christianity,still inthe data base, even more shocking was to see its title changed to: Bill D. Hates Christianity/Dewey Hates Judaism.

I figured it would INSTANTLY and RIGHTFULLY be deleted, not vengefully modified, It was posted only to make a point, not to accuse. I'm a big believer in tolerance especially in the field of religion and politics.

Are our little ears so sensitive we cannot tolerate a few religious ideas every once in a great while?they were topical and with today's news. From a Chirsitian perspective (god forbid I mention it)


To clarify, The Star of David is a six pointed symbol, one triangle facing upward, one facing downward.

As opposed to the New World Order symbol which is NOT the Star of David, because it also has a CIRCLE encompassing the star. It is that circle as well as many other circle symbols, that are used by the NWO. (see Madame Balvatsky, who will explain to you the ADDITIONAL MEANING behind the circle portion of this modified symbol in her prophecies)

The bottom triangle is the self actualized man (see abraham maslow) as one keeps growing in spiritual intelligents and capacity the based of the triangle (that is.... YOU!!) keep on growing fueled by the power of your source. (infinite intelligence)

The Top triangle is (the base which expands towards the heavens) is the source from which you came and it is infinite in its capacity directiveness and source supplication. This is GOD, according to the symbol and we are driven upward and onward by it, becoming a part of the Godhead.

I would also like to clarify FOR THE RECORD, that I don't think Bill D. Hates Christians.

He just hates it when Christians talk about anything chirstian with each other here on mudcat.

Its the liberal bias. Sick and perverted content is to be un-filtered bushbashing is fine. But God save us from those divise know it all christians.

Why am I Back? Well, Human nature I guess, I was checking to see what might have been said since, then I happened to run across the line,

DEWEY HATES JUDAISM

It is my obligation to any Jewish person to repond to this so I am. I do not hate any Jewish person, or any person of any religious persuasion different from my own, or any atheist, or any liberal thinker, bush-hater,Re-incarnated UFO aductee, intolerant dirty-minded data base administer etc.

I just don't like having my speech impaired and for me religion IS a big part of my life, its a regular part of my speech and lexicon. I even like learn about eastern religions. I have even studied them for myself over these past sixth months with great eagerness and awareness of their revelations.

In the end each of us have to decide for ourselves. I never came to mudcat citing John 3:16. There is a difference in talking about your religion and preaching various verse followed by hell and brimestone and the, You must be saved" admonition. I told my belief for certain, but I never told anyone what to believe. Telling people what they must believe in preaching, just mentioning your sincere beliefs isn't, and even if it were, which it is not, it is not something I do daily. Just like the topic of bush bashing gets old so does talking about christianity. But I think it is people hatred toward Chirsitianity that is more of the issue than how much it is discussed. Bush-bashing is talked about far more frequently here and it seems to work out just fine for the liberal crowd all gathered here. (so to me the issue is audience more than topic)

I've never preachedhere, and I have always been honest and sincere in my beliefs. But I just don't like mudcat anymore because it doesn't allow people to be themsleves. I'm not trying to change you guys, when I heard something I don't like I just ignore it not ban it.




Not that anyone would actually care, But I still resigned from mudcat and I am only resonding out of concern for the misleading post:

"DEWEY HATES JUDIASM"

Which miraculously is STILL in the data based. Don't worry Bill D. I won't sue you if you don't sue me (LOL)

But it does show your bias here and your liberal agenda towards the direction of the message board on mudcat. I thought you would erase the post, not add to it!!!!

Power Corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. So stop telling me what to write! and I'll still gladly go way. But everyone has bias, I just chose to ignore the things I don't like and you chose to stamp them out or revise them in the data base.

Dewey (who will seek unfettered speech elsewhere, but needed to correct the mudcat administrators assertion that he (Dewey) is a neo nazi)
    Hi, Dewey. Sorry I didn't notice this earlier, but I've been busy with school. We generally try to keep a limit of one thread currently running per subject. If there are multiple threads on a single subject, we sometimes combine them. If you wish to reply to something somebody says within a thread, the usual place to put your reply is in the thread where a discussion takes place, not in a new thread.
    If it makes sense to do it, we combine "reply" threads with the threads they reply to. I'm the person who combined the two threads. As part of the combination, I simply combined the two thread titles. By rights, you should have replied to Bill D's comments in the thread where he made his remarks, instead of starting another thread which generated yet another "answer" thread.
    I can't respond to your "neo-nazi" allegation, because I can't find it. It does not seem to be something that the administrators Max, Jeff, or I would say.
    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti-semitism
From: Pied Piper
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 06:58 AM

Enough already, if you're going to go, go.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti-semitism
From: John Hardly
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 07:12 AM

Was the thread title actually changed? And by whom?

I have to admit, that really is quite a bit more disturbing than that one troll-like poster (Dewey) can post his distasteful thread title.

If you have the power edit, you have the power to delete. Changing Dewey's title to one less inflamatory seems a much more logical choice in that case, than to have compounded the insult with more libel.

Was the thread title actually changed? And by whom?


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti-semitism
From: Noreen
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 07:27 AM

BS: Bill D. Hates Christianity/Dewey Hates Judaism
Yes it's true that the title was changed- I don't know why, either.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti-semitism
From: Noreen
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 07:34 AM

OK, after spending time reading the thread, I get it- someone else started "another immature retaliatory thread" called Dewey Hates Judaism which was on exactly the same topic, so both threads were combined to produce the one I linked to above.

Whole thing should be left dead and buried, if you ask me.

Bye Dewey, hope the life you got is making you happy.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti-semitism
From: GUEST,hughie & louie
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 07:36 AM

Come on home bro, and get your feet back on the ground. Best cure for religious fervour - go and do some real service - get a job as a nurse in a hospital, or minding pets or something. get in touch with Mother earth - take up pottery.


shalom.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti-semitism
From: Dewey
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 08:56 AM

Yes, my post was very distastful, and I didn't even expect it to last an hour, it was written with anger and resignation in mind. And, I also didn't expect it to be around a month later when I checked back on it.

As for Pied Piper, just like I write whatever I want, I also leave whenever I want, and there are a few things unsaid that I would like to say. Take them as sarcasm or constructive criticism. I could care less, but some of them you may actually find helpful.

First,

Whatever you mudcatters do do with your board you should at least consider a possible moderator, editor, decision maker of content. If religion and politics are not allowed on mudcat, say it up front. If dirty language, insults, various dirty jokes, liberal politics are especially encouraged this should also be spelled out.

That way the Grand Pubah Board Administrator can PM the poor sap that isn't cool enough and say, "Sorry buddy enough people don't seem to like you, your boring and your outa here.

Come Back when you can think dirtier thoughts, and tell a better dirty joke with more f-words than our current tally gives you. Or, Come back when you learn how to hate the GOP/ and George W (the true Anti-christ)

A Good Litness test would be:

Member must be at least a liberal and from outside the United States (evil empire)

Pleasantly independant, divorced or seeking a divorce.

Active sexually and willing to discuss the topic on mudcat.

Able to proficiantly swear and tell dirty jokes so as to keep each thread short and lively.

An atheist, or least non-christian, since this is the most threatening of all religions and greatest of all inhibitors to the establishment of world peace.

Not establishing these criteria's might lead to the following:

You'll get these weirdos like myself, that talk about the Universal Mind of God, Start Divisive discussions on Christinity (a religion which most of the world hates anyway) , Or ramble from paragraph after paragraph with religious theories, truth inspired "revelations" strange mind philosoophies of existentialism etc. while the rest of the message board, would rather discuss more profound topics like rum, group sex, masterbation, alocholism, the best nudity bars to go to.
You know, the REAL IMPORTANT, short but entertaining stuff.


Dewey (the nut)

(Just trying to help:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti-semitism
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 09:02 AM

Dewey, Bill had nothing to do with either the decisions made about your thread, or starting the parallel "Dewey" thread.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti-semitism
From: Dewey
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 09:11 AM

Opps!! Litmus test. You now what I meant.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Nerd
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 09:35 AM

Yes, "Dewey Hates Judaism" was posted in retaliation. You have to admit that despite your blah blah Blavatsky above, the phrase you used in the original post was "Study the Satanic Star of David," not "Study the Satanic New World Order Symbol, which is NOT the Star of David but the Star of David with a circle around it, or something." So you did make the calim that the Star of David was Satanic, although I suspect it was just cut-and-pasted from something you did not write, and I accept your statement that you didn't mean it. The point was just that it was very ironic how, in calling someone anti-Christian, you yourself made an anti-Semitic remark.

The title of your thread was not "changed," rather your thread and the retaliatory thread were combined into one. If you search on supersearch, you will get results in either thread, but clicking on them will likely take you to the combined version.

And it's further ironic that now you wish your own thread to be removed. Usually, the complaints come when people's threads DO get removed. If you haven't learned by now that you have to live with anything you may have said in a public internet forum, this will surely teach you that lesson! Funny how you didn't complain about this until you found out the thread now accused YOU as well!


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti-semitism
From: Pied Piper
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 09:41 AM

Your Carte blanch condemnation of every body who has the temerity to challenge your world view is I'm afraid all too common behaviour for religious people.
I have been robustly defending my non-religious (oversimplification), worldview on this forum for some time now and most of the people I've "ruffed-up" are still talking to me. Of cause they gave as good as they got.
Your implication that the people here are sordid perverts whose aim is to destroy Christianity is nonsense.
I sincerely worry about your vehemence and I hope with time you will gain more perspective on your experiences.
I hold no personal malice towards you Dewey and wish you well in the most difficult task that faces all of us; knowing Silver from Dross.

Good Wishes

PP


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti-semitism
From: Dewey
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 10:22 AM

NERD, Are You a Professor of Logic?

Real Rock Solid Court based argument of my Anti-semitism. Don't expect too big of a commision for your services.

Adjectives modify nouns, so hence the Normal star of David become the Satanic star of David. I Can modify any way I wish or I can just leave the word out. Also there is such a thing on part of the reader's responsibility to analyze intent and well as syntactic and symantic cues.

The real issue is the fact that you don't like me very much, which is perfectly fine because the feeling is basically mutual.

NERD, THAT ONE BRAIN CELL OF YOURS MUST REALLY STRUGGLE IF YOU THINK THAT POINTING TO A WEBSITE MAKES ONE ANTI-SEMITIC!

LET'S DO A LITTLE SAMPLE LOGIC:

Major Primise: HUMANS ARE BORN
Minor Primise: I AM A HUMAN

Conclusion: Therefore I was born.

There are SATANIC CHRISTIAN CROSSES TIPPED UPSIDE DOWN (1... 2... 3... please get back to me whenever you get this one figured out:-)

AM I ANTI- CHRISTIAN AS WELL IF MY WEB REFERENCES LEAD TO AN UPSIDE DOWN CHRISTIAN CROSS?


You guys need to put in a new webmaster to work, or fire the old ONE, whoever he or she is, it wasn't a very wise thing to do. I didn't even expect at the time my post would even go through with such a heading not alone last a month, with an additional libel added to it.

.

Dewey

P.S. FOR RECORD, I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO BILL D. FOR SAYING THAT HE HATES CHRISTIANS, I ALWAYS APOLOGIZE WHEN I AM WRONG OR HAVE WRONG SOMEONE, WHICH IS USUALLY OFTEN FOR ME.

BUT I WON'T APOLOGIZE FOR FREE SPEECH, I'LL JUST FIND A PLACE WHERE I CAN HAVE IT AND IN A FORUM THAT ACCEPTS IT.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti-semitism
From: Peace
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 10:28 AM

BillD is much too smart and kind a man to 'hate' a religion. His remarks have unfailingly been considered and polite. Forceful at times, but such is often the nature of argument.

Dewey, pardon me for saying, but on the best intellectual day of your life you could only ever win an argument with BillD if he agreed with you to begin with.

If the original title was as posted in blue above, then it bloody well should have been changed, IMO.

Bruce Murdoch


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti-semitism
From: Peace
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 10:30 AM

Dewey,

Vitamin B-complex will help. Take some, SVP.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti-semitism
From: Peace
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 10:34 AM

PS,

Before you start chewin' on Nerd's ass, he's as smart as Bill. Give it a rest, Dewey. You love your religion, do so with my blessings, but stop slagging folks. And it's OK to love God and be quiet about it.

BM


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti-semitism
From: Dewey
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 10:35 AM

Nerd,

It doesn't bother me what was said. leave it up as you wish. Its just dumb on the part of the webhost to leave it up, not alone add to it.

I hurtsthe credible of the site when such things are not found, which is the responsiblity of the coordinater.

I can even live with the word "turd" which was said in a previous post I'd give you a link to it. but I am not literate in HTML.

Dewey


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti-semitism
From: Peace
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 10:55 AM

Dewey,

It's an age-old thing: if no one starts it, then no one has to finish it. You are entitled to your religious beliefs; equally, you are entitled to keep them to yourself.

I believe in God. Not Christianity, but God. BillD has never been rude to me about that. He is aware that I believe because I believe, and that's that. Many times he has argued with me and never once has he been at all offensive. I know he thinks I'm out to lunch--that I cannot 'prove' the existence of the God I believe in--and maybe he knows too that I feel he's misguided with his 'lack' of belief in God. However, despite him being a smarter guy than I will ever be, and despite him being able to chew me up in an argument that has to do with logic or philosophy, he has never once done so in a manner that is less than scholarly or considerate. Many people here (most, if not all) respect BillD for his intelligence, wit and kindness. Please remember that the next time you decide to slag him. You won't find too many people to agree with you. Sure as there is a God, I won't.

BM


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti-semitism
From: Big Mick
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 11:10 AM

Dewey .... your attempts to alibi your original contentions won't fly.

It is entirely appropriate that we would combine threads that are essentially the same or going to the same place. Don't like it? Oh well.....

If I had caught all this earlier, I would have deleted it. Bill D doesn't need defending. His goodness shines through. As a Christian, I wish more Christians were like him. Bill might challenge your arguments, but he doesn't attack you. He is the classic example of being tolerant of others views. Would that more of my Christian brothers and sisters were like that.

Oh yeah ..... goodbye.


Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti-semitism
From: Dewey
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 11:26 AM

I'll be sure to go the woodshed. Brucie. (seriously)


But the subject was the anti-christ. If it's off topic let the board take it up. As for Nerd, he's a nitpicking ego centered squabbler, and so I don't see him as smart or a friend in the way that you might see him.

I think you and I are a bit alike (sometimes) Brucie! You get huffed the same way I do, you also have a lot of horse-sense which kind of balances it all out.

The anti-christ stuff wasn't some loosely conceived opinion on my part, as it keeps re-appearing in the daily news, and through my existential research, then I form my opinion, and my opinion, is that the NEW AGE is upon us.

Hence the telepathy. Consciousness is speeding up. the leaders of this movement where prophesied by Blavatsky, they are today's success gurus. Famous names cite her as their reference. 2012 is the breeding ground for official unveiling of this movement.

And of course I can't cite everything here, But every one of my sentences posesses a potential citation. I am not rambling in any word I say, each and every word can be backed up by citation.


Dewey


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti-semitism
From: Peace
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 11:35 AM

Nerd is a freakin' genius. And a very nice guy.

Citations I can get ya comin' out the yinyang. I am aware of the import you give to the year 2012--NWO, Neocon, the agendas and the takeover. However, it has everything to do with money and little to do with religions and NOTHING to do with God.

Incidentally, I happen to agree with you concerning 2012, but likely not for the reasons you might think. That 'journey of discovery' for me started over 20 years ago. However, I really doubt that anyone here would believe anything I have to say about it, so I just don't mention it.

BM


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti-semitism
From: Noreen
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 11:36 AM

But I think you will have noticed, Dewey, that no-one here is interested!


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti-semitism
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 12:02 PM


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti-semitism
From: robomatic
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 12:53 PM

I didn't pay attention to the thread that you've got the problem with. But calling this thread 'Anti-semitism' is way too attractive a nuisance. I don't know whether or not you're an ASB, and I don't care. Take up thread titles with someone who can change 'em and get the hell out.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti-semitism
From: GUEST,Nerd
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 04:28 PM

And, Dewey, in case you missed that, freakin' is being used as an adjective, to modify a noun. So brucie can say I'm a normal genius, or a freakin' genius. (Thanks, Brucie.)

I don't get your point on the star of David, however. If I said "listen to stupid Dewey," would you assume I was calling you stupid, or that I was claiming that there was another person very much like you who was not Dewey but who was stupid, so I was calling him "stupid Dewey."

This is the same argument you are making re: Star of David. That in saying "Satanic Star of David" you REALLY meant a symbol which WAS Satanic, and was NOT the Star of David but which resembled the Star of David. Please. If this is the sort of verbal gymnastcs you need to resort to, you're better off just apologizing for your anti-Semitic remark.

You are also missing my whole point, which is ironic, because it was YOUR point too. I was not accusing you of anti-Semitism. I was pointing out that one of your remarks could be taken as anti-Semitic, just as you pointed out that one of Bill's could be taken as anti-Christian. The odd thing is that you allow yourself the out of saying "but I didn't mean it," while you deny me the same option. I even stated above that I believe that you did not mean to make an anti-Semitic remark. But you did make it.

And by the way, you did not "point to" an anti-semitic website. You quoted it and omitted the quotation marks, so it looked like your own words. If you don't recognize the difference, that's all the more reason for you to learn about internet forums and how they work before coming here, saying stuff you don't mean, and then getting mad at the moderators for not censoring your ill-considered remarks.


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti-semitism
From: wysiwyg
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 04:54 PM

Dewey, as you know I'm a praying woman. I'm praying that this thread will be closed, that you will find and join the site you dream of, and that God will speak to you there in such a way that you realize how really dumb you have been at Mudcat. As Hardi and I say when a parishioner makes a mess and then leaves loudly-- "May the Lord help them better, elsewhere, than we could help them here."

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Anti-semitism
From: Bunnahabhain
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 10:04 PM

Yes, it's time to close the thread. It's the only way to stop people digging a bigger hole for themselves.

Discussions can be had on very contentious issues, but everybody has to be careful, and willing to listen, or they will get nasty and pointless.

Bunnahbhain.


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