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Dipsodeb 24 Nov 04 - 07:02 AM
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Subject: Tech: Printing blocks of txt
From: Dipsodeb
Date: 24 Nov 04 - 07:02 AM

HELP! I am making my way through the three chord thread that is going on just now and I would like to print certain parts of the thread out. Now being a technophobe (OK Thick ;-) I am having difficulty I already know that if I highlight something i can just print that, but say if I miss the next bit of the thread and want to copy a few below that the other highlighted bit goes off. How can I jump through a whole thread and just pick out the bits I want and then print them.

~Debs~


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Subject: RE: Tech: Printing blocks of txt
From: Dipsodeb
Date: 24 Nov 04 - 07:03 AM

oops should have said I am working with Windows ME.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Printing blocks of txt
From: treewind
Date: 24 Nov 04 - 07:05 AM

Copy and paste them into a text editor or word processor document, then print that.

Or copy the whole thread into your editor/wp and then delete the bits you don't want to keep/print.

Anahata


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Subject: RE: Tech: Printing blocks of txt
From: s&r
Date: 24 Nov 04 - 07:06 AM

Copy the lot into a Word Processor and delete the bits you don't want. Then print

Stu


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Subject: RE: Tech: Printing blocks of txt
From: s&r
Date: 24 Nov 04 - 07:08 AM

Sorry treewind - crosspost

Stu


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Subject: RE: Tech: Printing blocks of txt
From: GUEST,MCP
Date: 24 Nov 04 - 07:18 AM

If I highlight the text I want to print I have an option to print Selection in the File/Print menu item. I don't know if this is printer specific though (I'm running XP/SP2, IE6, HPLaserjet1200)

Mick


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Subject: RE: Tech: Printing blocks of txt
From: s&r
Date: 24 Nov 04 - 11:02 AM

Only prints one selection not several

Stu


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Subject: RE: Tech: Printing blocks of txt
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 24 Nov 04 - 01:09 PM

Generally I find that anything worth printing is worth saving to a file - and if you organize things first you don't kill a lot of trees printing stuff you don't recognize later.

If you highlight, copy, and then paste into your word processor, you can edit, add to, delete, etc as needed - and you can add your own notes/notations before you print.

If you just copy and paste, some websites - the 'cat included - give you kind of a mess of tables and links and such. In Word, and I would suppose in most word processors, you can choose Edit - Paste Special - and "unformatted text" to get rid of most of the "junk." When you do that though, you lose links and graphics. You can right click on a link in most browsers and "copy shortcut," and then paste into your document, and most "graphics" can be right-clicked and "save picture" if you want them. Save them separately and/or paste into the document immediately. For a very few websites, a straight paste and editing out the "junk" is easier, but for most sites "Paste Special - unformatted" and adding back the graphics and links is a lot quicker.

I've had a hard time training "HER" to always click the address bar at the top, and paste it into the document - so you can go back later to see if anything new wants to be saved. If you print directly from the web page, with default setup in most browsers, you should get the URL printed in the header or footer. If you don't, you should look at the page/print setup, usually in File - Page Setup, and add the little &u to the header or footer to do it. (In IE, Help - Index Tab - page setup will get you the "codes" for info to print. Other browsers should be similar.)

If you use the "Print Selection" option you can, as noted, only print one continuous selection at a time, so if you want "disconnected pieces" you have to either print each of them separately - or "compose" in your word/text processor.

You can save entire web pages, but they make a mess on your machine since most pages have a file and a folder with all the "includes" that have to be kept together. The links often break if you're not careful, but the saved "pages" can be viewed offline using your browser. I rarely save whole pages to Hard Drive, but occasionally "archive" a few on ZIP disks so they don't clutter up the machine. Many "whole pages" use very long filenames that can't be saved without change to data CDs. You need to open the page in your browser, use "Save As" to change the name to a short "CD-legal" one before you burn the CD using the renamed "copy," since the "page" won't work if the burner program changes the file name.

John


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Subject: RE: Tech: Printing blocks of txt
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 24 Nov 04 - 07:53 PM

John,

You've mentioned several times "CD-legal" file names without explaining...


Thanks


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Subject: RE: Tech: Printing blocks of txt
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 25 Nov 04 - 02:38 AM

Foolestroupe -

If you only burn music CDs, you don't usually have much problem because all your stuff ultimately comes from CDs and/or because the file structure is pretty shallow. If you burn data CDs, you do have to comply with a slightly different set of "rules" about filenames. There is a specific set of characters that cannot be used in a "Joliet" filename - the usual standard used, and the set is slightly different than for DOS or Windows filenames. As one example, a comma (,) or a dash (-) are perfectly legal in Windows "long file names" but my recollection is that either of these can cause problems with CDs. In Windows, there's almost no real limit** to how long a file name can be, or how "deep" a tree structure is, but on a data CD the "tree" cannot exceed 8 layers, and the total path+filename cannot exceed a specific length (I believe it's 64 characters, but haven't checked recently.)

**There is a limit for Windows filenames, but you seldom get names that long.

The most common "burp" in the burn process for data CDs is the notice that the burner program wants to change a filename - usually because it's too deep a structure or because the total path+filename exceeds the limit on number of characters. For most files you just let it go ahead and truncate the filename, and/or omit the "illegal characters." If you have web pages where the filename is embedded in the files, the folder with all the linked "pretty stuff" has to match the name of the file (and the name in any links contained in the file if absolute addressing is used in links). If you just change the filename (and/or the folder name) the page won't load. Since the folder and the file are at two different "depths" in the tree structure, you're extremely unlikely to get the same change in both.

If you open the web page in your browser, and "save as" a different (hopefully legal) name, everything gets coordinated during the save process so that the necessary matching of file and folder names is done as part of the "save."

Vastly oversimplified, but maybe it'll show what the problem is.

John


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Subject: RE: Tech: Printing blocks of txt
From: Joe Offer
Date: 25 Nov 04 - 03:35 AM

Hi, Debs - note that there are printer-friendly format links on each message, and at the top of each thread. If you use them, you'll get rid of a lot of the stuff you don't want to print.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Tech: Printing blocks of txt
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 25 Nov 04 - 06:11 AM

Isn't the "printer friendly" link you really want at the BOTTOM of each individual message here? And at the TOP of the whole thread..

:-)


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Subject: RE: Tech: Printing blocks of txt
From: Dipsodeb
Date: 25 Nov 04 - 08:25 AM

Thanks everyone I am kicking myself now for not thinking of the obvious. I told you I was a technophobe. ;-)

Joe I did use the printer friendly link but I still couldn't just highlight the bits I wanted out of the whole thread and just print them. It would only do that for one section.

I just tried it with the link at the bottom of each individual posting and that would obviously be fine if I just wanted one, but if I wanted more than one, Does that mean that I would be instructing individual print jobs in a queue to get all the info from the entire thread that I required?

I think I need some of your compter training ;-) Did you find a good tutorial?

It sounds simpler to just copy the thread and then delete bits.

Thanks peeps

~Debs~


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Subject: RE: Tech: Printing blocks of txt
From: Bo Vandenberg
Date: 25 Nov 04 - 07:50 PM

If I am digesting an interesting thread I always copy the relevant sections to a word processor.

Open the processor. Go back to the browser highlight the text you want then right click and choose copy. Go to the processor, left click in its window and then right click in its window and choose 'paste'. Arrange to preference and print.

My recommendatons are

1. Wordpad (its poor but you already have it with windows)
2. "Scite" - my favourite text editor (free and very good)

Best solution

Install Open Office and keep a running file with an index. That way you can tell what is in the file from the first page.


Sigurd


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