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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Andy, Port Erin, Isle Of Man
Date: 13 Aug 05 - 04:26 AM

Why should Mrs Jones accept cheques the accuracy of which would almost certainly be "doubtful" at best? Why would she shake hands with the devil that has caused her and her family so much distress over so many years? Assuming that she has the cheques still in her possession and has not returned them, she would be best advised to go for a full audit of CM(and its associated companies) books. This would be on the understanding that no respectable and above board record company would refuse such a request. After all audit rights are normally present in record contracts and now there are plenty of examples in case law where artists without such a clause in their contract have been awarded them retrospectively. Just remember that false accounting is a criminal matter. Go for it.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Java Jive
Date: 03 Oct 05 - 04:42 PM

My source is *utterly* reliable.

Being myself currently in dispute with an internet supplier, I undertand that to use the goods under dispute is tantamount to accepting them - I presume it's a similar situation with the royalty cheques, and that is why they have not been cashed.

So, as I reliably said, Nic will not be receiving royalties ...

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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 10 Aug 05 - 01:45 PM

Sorry but it would seem that your source is not as reliable as it may appear.

Nic Jones was actually sent royalties but his wife refused to cash the cheques.
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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Guest
Date: 03 Oct 05 - 07:34 PM

Arn't there other more important issues in the UK or the world than this tired old kicked to death subject to concern "right minded" people? Like FAMINE,CHILD ABUSE, NATURAL DISASTERS AND TERRORISM, or have certain people nothing else to do??


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: Effsee
Date: 03 Oct 05 - 09:26 PM

So why have you raised it again after 2 months of silence?


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,J T.
Date: 03 Oct 05 - 10:25 PM

Tis tired old kicked to death subject will continue to be raised simply because the odious Bulmer and Sharpley are directly involved to this day in dubious practices involving respected members of the folk music community. Sharply was struck off on hard facts, and no royalty payment from him can be trusted as accurate, cashing cheques from him is tantamount to accepting that these payments are correct, and that any previous agreement is being honoured I doubt that this is the case here. This matter will not go away until these individuals begin to pactice buisness in an open and trasparent way. As for asking for an audit, this is an expensive buisness, and Sharpley is clever enough to have covered his tracks, the Police in Lincolnshire are well aware of his practices, and are willing to help nail him if any agrieved party can provide clear evidence of fraud on his part, he only escaped the last time on a tecnicality.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Mike S. in Bristol
Date: 09 Oct 05 - 07:25 AM

Surfed in on this thread after a couple of years, never expecting to see it is still going strong!   Its really sad that this man Bulmer and his rather "iffy" business practices have never been sorted out by those he and his partner have screwed over so many years. He must be surrounded by even more "iffy" solicitors, accountants etc to enable him to escape detailed investigation. I note that audit has been suggested and I should have thought that this could be quite easily arranged (and cheaply/free if the Police are involved. Fraud and false accounting would seem to be his MO and from what I have read there are plenty of people in the folk world, and in other areas tainted by Bulmer, who could attest. As I understand it there are many of you who have actually had a crime committed against you by this bloke and his company. Crime is surely the remit of the Police? What happened to the "Sick Note" guy? When I last read the threads he was actively engaged in pursuing Mr Bulmer and his partner. Still, I guess I may come on again in another two years and find the same thing still ongoing! Get it together guys. Go for the jugular.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Jenny.
Date: 18 Nov 05 - 06:53 PM

The Sick Note guy has had many offers of help outside the law, to
date he has said no, Pat and his friends will be in Horrogate over
Christmas to speak with Bulmer and Co.
In answer to an earlier question
NEIL SHARPLEY. The Sycamores. Westgate, Louth, Lincolnshire.LN119YE.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Graham in Leeds.
Date: 18 Nov 05 - 07:37 PM


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Graham in Leeds.
Date: 18 Nov 05 - 07:56 PM

Dave Bulmer can only opperate because the so called folk scene in England are happy to deal with him. you have embraced this viper to your bosum and yet question the desmise of English folk music, we all live in close proximityty to this shit, Bulmer is a really fraudter, why can you in England not see this and do something aboutit.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Andy, Port Erin, I-O-M
Date: 08 Dec 05 - 03:51 AM

In February Music Mercenary wrote that he had the MCPS Alliance investigating Bulmer. Any news yet?


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Ralph
Date: 08 Dec 05 - 03:57 AM

Glad to see that this subject has not been forgotten.
And, It never will be.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: Lancashire Lad
Date: 08 Dec 05 - 02:20 PM

Possibly slightly off topic, but it would appear that DB has licensed from Trailer and Leader tracks to Honest Johns Records who distribute through EMI in UK.
Seems that the archives might be opening!
Cheers
LL


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Dec 05 - 04:44 PM

Yes....Mmmmm
Ralphie


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Diddly Eye Di Di
Date: 11 Feb 06 - 09:39 AM

....... evn in Ireland he's a leg-end in his own mind!   


Date:         Tue, 24 Feb 2004 19:04:45 -0000
Reply-To:    Geoff Wallis <[log in to unmask]>
Sender:       Irish Traditional Music List <[log in to unmask]>
From:         Geoff Wallis <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Re: Dave Bulmer
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Absolutely and concisely well said, William!

It's down to dear Mr Bulmer that you can't buy a copy of Paul Brady's
"Welcome Here Kind Stranger" in Ireland and struggle to find several other releases anywhere in the world which were the subjects of Bulmer's dealings with the Mulligan label. His label, Celtic Music, is a byword for exploitation, fraud and deceit.

All the best,

Geoff



----- Original Message -----
From: "William Kennedy" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: Dave Bulmer


> for you who would like to know about Dave Bulmer, and the many musicians who despise him, go to Mudcat Cafe and type Bulmer in the forum window and what pops up is "Celtic Music/ Dave Bulmer Saga" four long threads worth. the short version is the hundreds of allegations of cheating musicians out of royalties, refusing to release music he has purchased the rights to and many other cases of dirty dealings. He is in court these days to answer some charges. you can read the details for yourself, as I do not have any
> personal experience with the fellow. but in relation to your question it doesn't seem that any of the musicians on those 'four lovely little collections' or the the many others that he released, ever got a penny share of any sales.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Bruce Baillie
Date: 11 Feb 06 - 05:07 PM

Well I'd just like to add my two pennorth, I remember Dave Bulmer from back in the 1970's when he used to play in a band called 'Burned Peat' consisting of Bernard Davey, Tom McConnville, Tony Wilson and sometimes various others... and they, and he were bloody good! he was an Accordion player of exceptional skill. I must say he always struck me as being a miserable scruffy looking bastard, and I can well imagine him being a 'dodgy businessman'but hey, the world is full of them and if you are stupid enough to get sucked in by one don't expect them to be anything other than what they are! i.e. INTERESTED IN ONLY THEMSELVES AND WHAT YOU CAN DO TO LINE THEIR POCKETS!!!
It's a tough life so don't expect them to give back the birthright you so willingly sold away!
...There now shoot me down!


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: treewind
Date: 11 Feb 06 - 05:38 PM

Bruce, read the story.
Most of the people who have been shafted by Bulmer NEVER DID ANY BUSINESS WITH HIM.

In a nutshell, they recorded for Leader; Leader went bust; DB picked up the bankrupt business for a song; DB perversely didn't bother trading in the material for which he owned the rights.

All sensible contracts with record labels now have a clause explicitly assigning all rights to the artist in the event of the label going bust.
Before then the possibility of such a bizarre scenario hadn't been imagined.

Anahata


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 11 Feb 06 - 10:18 PM

Just to point out that the Honest John sampler release largely consists of tracks from other CDs that Celtic Music has already released. And it's a pricey sampler, at that.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: sinpelo
Date: 19 Feb 06 - 11:07 AM

There may be another way to approach this problem: Although artists cannot challenge his legal ownership of R&D rights, they could possibly sue him for loss of earnings. If Bulmer controls the R&D rights of work on which artists depend to earn a living, then perhaps he can be legally obliged to enable them to do so. If Bulger is preventing people from legitimately earning a living from their own work, he has a legal case to answer. I think it's worth pursuing.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Feb 06 - 11:11 AM

Yawn.

Nothing new under the sun, eh lads?


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: sinpelo
Date: 19 Feb 06 - 03:59 PM

I'm trying to understand how this works. As far as I can gather, DB has bought reproduction and distribution rights from labels that had gone into receivership. Does that require the artists to sign anything over to him? I would have thought that, if these were rights that were held by the labels rather than the individual artists, they would have no say in the matter. Or am I wrong? Feel free to call me a thicko if it helps.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Andy, Port Erin, I-O-M
Date: 20 Feb 06 - 03:36 AM

The point is that Bulmer seems to represent all that is repugnant in the music business. He is a hang over from a time when artists were regularly screwed by record companies. The sheer number of complaints about his business ethics (or lack of them) is well documented. He is blackballed by the MU as a person/company NOT to do business with and has been for more than a decade. He operates a policy of single-minded unpleasantness to anyone that crosses him - and anyone that does will inevitably receive a threatening letter from his partner, Mr Sharpley. If you have read these threads you will know about Mr Sharpley. Is this the way that folk music and musicians derserve to be treated? In the 21st Century it would be nice to know that people and enterprises like those of Mr Bulmer act with decency and professionalism to artists - to ensure that they get royalties (for instance). As ever with this man nothing is that simple. But one day brother, KARMA, for sure.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: sinpelo
Date: 20 Feb 06 - 06:48 AM

"Arn't there other more important issues in the UK or the world than this tired old kicked to death subject to concern "right minded" people? Like FAMINE,CHILD ABUSE, NATURAL DISASTERS AND TERRORISM, or have certain people nothing else to do?? "

Yes. These are discussed in forums under headings such as "FAMINE, CHILD ABUSE, NATURAL DISASTERS AND TERRORISM". However, I think you'll find most of the posts under the heading "Celtic Music, Dave Bulmer" tend to be about Celtic Music and Dave Bulmer.

I hope this helps.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: sinpelo
Date: 20 Feb 06 - 08:43 PM

At the risk of being called a DB apologist's apologist, I think we ought to be a little more tolerant of conflicting views. I'm sifting through the DB threads because I want to find out as much as possible about the issue. Personally, I'd like DB himself to post here. I'd like to know what he has to say. Disagree by all means but don't try to censor. Let us have all viewpoints and allow us to make up our minds.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Could have been anybody, really ...
Date: 15 Aug 06 - 04:38 PM

Well now, what have we here? Looks like another CM spin-off has just been launched!

Music By Mail is still listed by Amazon (UK) as a supplier for "Ballads & Songs" ...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-listing/B0006FQ5T4/ref=dp_olp_0/026-0015039-8344423?condition=all0


... yet appears to be defunct (BTW, note the registrant & administrative contact details for each site) ...


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 03:58 AM

I thought the remastering may make it more listenable! I'd probably buy it for the Drop Down Baby track, if I could get hold of it!

RtS


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: Roger the Skiffler
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 03:59 AM

Ignore last post- senior moment, wrong thread

Roger The Senile


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Pandora Box
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 06:53 AM

It seems also if Bulmer has registered another company (certainly its logo) in the UK Patents Office.   The Empire is getting bigger and bigger!!!!


Trade Marks Journal No. 6599 16 September 2005

(At this point there is the FOLK HERITAGE logo)

2396832 14 July 2005 (09)


Scientific, nautical, surveying, photographic, cinematographic, optical, weighing, measuring, signalling, checking (supervision), life-saving and teaching apparatus and instruments; apparatus and instruments for conducting, switching, transforming, accumulating, regulating or controlling electricity; apparatus for recording, transmission or reproduction of sound or images; magnetic data carriers, recording discs; data processing equipment and computers, computer hardware and firmware; computer software (including software downloadable from the Internet); compact discs; digital music (downloadable from the Internet); telecommunications apparatus; computer games equipment adapted for use with TV receivers; mouse mats; mobile phone accessories; contact lenses, spectacles and sunglasses.



David Robert Bulmer, Northworks, Hookstone Park, Harrogate, North Yorkshire, HG2 7DB.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 07:40 AM

From: GUEST,Could have been anybody, really ... - PM

Guest -

You seem to have spotted more than one piece of information - some is relevant to this thread and some does not link to the subject under discussion.

First, there seem to be CD Recordings of Nic Jones for sale - Your link to Amazon allows us to track down the following :-
There are (apparently) new CDs on sale through Mound Music who seem to be the online identity of an Edinburgh music shop. Their online shop at Amazon has listed :-
Nic Jones [Audio CD] Jones, Nic
Ballads and Songs [Import] [Audio CD] Jones, Nic

Also on Amazon - Irish music store has the same two CDs listed.
BLICKY and
BLICKY2
They are both identified as the LEADER recordings which are part of the dispute over royalties.


The second thing you have spotted -
http://www.musicbymail.co.uk/
does appear to be connected with Mr. Bulmer.

The third item - http://www.celticmusic.co.uk/ appears to be a web address owned by http://www.oldbridgemusic.com/ .
Old Bridge Music seems to be the music shop in Ilkley run by Chris and Mark Newman who are respected musicians. They are not part of Dave Bulmer's organisation.
I assume they have bought the "celticmusic.co.uk" address because people looking for music within the "celtic" genre will be able to find their site (Old Bridge is unlikely to be found by a Google for music or celtic music). They may even have purchased it to prevent somebody else using it for trading (who knows?).
The web page you reach is basically one to redirect you to the Newmans' main pages. It contains the following disclaimer :-
"This is part of the Old Bridge Music website, and has no connection to any other UK based company." i.e. They are NOT part of CM Distribution (or whatever it was officially called).

Of course, what we would all like to see is the "lost" Leader recordings being released (so we can actually listen to them) and the recording artists being given their royalties for their work. I sincerely hope that these "new" CD releases are the start of that process. If not they would just be cynical profiteering.

Quack!
Geoff the Duck.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 09:40 AM

The aforementioned Nic Jones titles on the Leader label are available from CAMSCO. If anyone has any reasonably firm evidence that royalties are not being paid (assuming that original contracts provided for such royalties), please let me know.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: nickp
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 01:10 PM

I guess it's on another thread but while people are reading this one:

Nic Jones - Game Set Match released on Topic on 2nd October with - as I understand it - approval of the Jones family. You can buy this one with impunity!

Nick


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 08:24 PM

I guess that means you can buy the others with punity.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: Scotus
Date: 16 Aug 06 - 10:02 PM

Dick - Is that the same as punishment?

Jack


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 17 Aug 06 - 03:00 AM

Quite correct nickp.
Not quite sure that punity is a real word though!.
It's a bit like saying that the opposite of constitution, is prostitution! English Hey, what a language.
Back on track.
Yes, the Game Set Match CD has the full support of the family.
Wasn't involved myself, and will be interested to hear which alternative takes have been used. It's just a good thing to keep Nics work out there. particularly with the clout that Topic will bring.
As for all the Celtic Music stuff...Ah Well....It will sort itself out in the end.
So, Go out and buy Game Set Match, even if you've already got some of the tracks. I'm going to. And I've heard it all anyway. Sad or what!
Best to all Ralphie


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Aug 06 - 02:11 AM

Geoff the Duck quacked:

>You seem to have spotted more than one piece of information - some is relevant to this thread and some does not link to the subject under discussion.
>
>First, there seem to be CD Recordings of Nic Jones for sale - Your link to Amazon allows us to track down the [snip]
>They are both identified as the LEADER recordings which are part of the dispute over royalties.

But the point I was making was that MbM was also still listed as a supplier to Amazon, but actually judging by their website does not appear still to be trading. Thus there seems to be potential for Amazon to take money on their site for orders for goods from MbM and for customers not to receive the goods.
>
>The second thing you have spotted -
>http://www.musicbymail.co.uk/
>does appear to be connected with Mr. Bulmer.

Yes.

>The third item - http://www.celticmusic.co.uk/ appears to be a web address owned by http://www.oldbridgemusic.com/ .
>Old Bridge Music seems to be the music shop in Ilkley run by Chris and Mark Newman who are respected musicians. They are not part of Dave Bulmer's organisation.

Aaargh! A little/none-too-little matter of a sodding hyphen! Apologies to Chris, Mark, and OldBridge.

The address I *meant* to investigate was ...

http://www.celtic-music.co.uk/

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You don't have permission to access to this document on this server.

Apache Server at musicbymail.co.uk

http://whois.domaintools.com/celtic-music.co.uk

Whois Record for Celtic-music.co.uk
Page Information
Record Type:         Domain Name
Whois Record

Domain name:
    celtic-music.co.uk

Registrant:
    Dave Bulmer

Trading as:
    Dave Bulmer

Registrant type:
    UK Individual

Registrant's address:
    North Works
    Hookstone Park
    Harrogate
    North Yorks
    HG2 7DB
    Harrogate
    North Yorks
    HG2 7DB
    GB

Registrant's agent:
    Fibranet Services Ltd [Tag = FIBRANET]

Relevant dates:
    Registered on: 08-Nov-1999
    Renewal date: 08-Nov-2007
    Last updated: 27-Sep-2005

Registration status:
    Registered until renewal date.

Name servers:
    ns1.ukdnsservers.co.uk
    ns2.ukdnsservers.co.uk

WHOIS lookup made at 06:47:46 19-Aug-2006

So, no new spinoff, except what Pandora Box found at Companies House.

Apologies to all for the false alarm.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Santa's Little Helper
Date: 04 Jan 07 - 02:28 PM

Hey Everyone, Had another great year dancing to the call of the lad from Harrogate. I just made a total elf of myself. Check me out by clicking the link below. Neil

http://www.elfyourself.com/?userid=6d7732e34273a183b372ed2G07010404


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 10:37 AM

Wot! No hyperlink!


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Mauled Verb
Date: 01 May 09 - 08:12 AM

Do you think this is the same Dave Bulmer??


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: The Sandman
Date: 01 May 09 - 10:23 AM

yes ,it could possibly be.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Mauled Verb
Date: 01 May 09 - 10:47 PM

I think so too Dick.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: michaelr
Date: 02 May 09 - 03:06 AM

"You have to believe in something, somewhere down the line," said Dave Bulmer, who will own the business with John Cooper.

Think he's reformed?


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: The Sandman
Date: 02 May 09 - 07:02 AM

that statement could mean anything.
for example,many entrepreneurs,just believe in making money,I dont know if this applies to Dave Bulmer or not.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Don Scott.
Date: 02 May 09 - 05:37 PM

I see from the link there is a possibility to comment on this article, perhaps those who have good cause to dislike this loathsome individual should add a comment or two.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Mauled Verb
Date: 07 May 09 - 07:10 AM

Good idea Don.

Except that I signed in, left a reasonably polite message suggesting that folks might want to make themselves aware of Mr B's history before getting too excited, and waited for it to appear on the page.

And waited... And waited....


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,John Braley
Date: 13 May 09 - 12:11 PM

The golden rule for anyone joining a business venture is the process of Due Diligence. Mr Cooper - being not a novice in such matters - will doubtless attend to this with seriousness. Track records are also very important and Mr Cooper will also doubtlessly have taken a prudent view on his new partner.

And then.... fingers crossed!


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: Tyke
Date: 14 May 09 - 11:13 AM

Mr B history seems to be that when nobody else wanted to buy Bankrupt stock Mr B put his money into buying it. Then years later when the grey pound funded by inflated house prices leaves people wanting to buy back their youth. Leaves some complaining about record catalogues that only exists only because of Mr B leaving the commercial decision of what to re release and when to him. I don't see anyone complaining about a restoration and re release of the EFDSS collection or the BBC Folk song archives.

Now Mr B seems to be re opening a well loved independent music store as our High Streets close shop after shop. As I understand it will also include a stage for impromptu concerts what a great idea. It should not only promote live artists and their work but also introduce those who attend to other artists whose work will be on sale in the shop.

What a great idea best wishes and all the best of Luck for the future!


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: pavane
Date: 15 May 09 - 02:34 AM

An attempt to sign up new artists, who may not be aware of the MU blacklisting?


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: Surreysinger
Date: 15 May 09 - 07:05 AM

Here we go again?


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: Dita
Date: 19 Aug 09 - 02:45 AM

Bulmer had a shop in Glasgow. He turned up one weekend, with no notice, and emptied the contents into a van, leaving staff high and dry.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Ralphie
Date: 19 Aug 09 - 03:26 AM

Oh God.....Thought we were shot of this man.
He'll never reform, never do the decent thing.....I'm minded to ally him to the BNP apologist who stated "If those folk singers complain about the BNP.... tough....we'll continue to sell their product to raise funds for the party, and they can't do anything to stop us"
Sounds familiar?
Time to Join Folk against Fascism people.


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Subject: RE: Celtic Music Dave Bulmer (6)
From: GUEST,Rob
Date: 08 May 10 - 07:02 PM

Needless to say, the shop never re-opened. Not a surprise. Wonder if the rights to the Selectadisc name are now tied up in litigation?


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