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BS: NON-Partisan political comments

beardedbruce 12 Sep 04 - 12:51 PM
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Amos 12 Sep 04 - 11:06 AM
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Subject: RE: BS: NON-Partisan political comments
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Sep 04 - 12:51 PM

it's steady work, though...


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Subject: RE: BS: NON-Partisan political comments
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Sep 04 - 12:50 PM

You bet. Nice work, being a martyr.


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Subject: RE: BS: NON-Partisan political comments
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Sep 04 - 12:46 PM

Just because we are doomed to fail does not mean we should not try.


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Subject: RE: BS: NON-Partisan political comments
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Sep 04 - 12:26 PM

I agree totally bruce. Which is why I pointed out that the Mudcat majority, which is voting for Kerry, won't be able to remain non-partisan. It isn't in their constitutional make-up. So, after repeated attempts at a non-partisan conversation (I started one of these very same threads myself a few days ago) about the American presidential election, I've come to the conclusion that these sorts of threads are just a silly waste of time.

People here just aren't capable of having a non-partisan political conversation about American politics, anymore than they are capable of not opening threads with a guest bashing title, and running the thread up over 100 posts in no time flat.

Nature of the beast, dude.


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Subject: RE: BS: NON-Partisan political comments
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Sep 04 - 11:19 AM

Ron:

Thanks for the contribution.

Guest, please see my comment to Amos- I really don't want to here about EITHER party, flaws or whatever. The comments I have found speak to a larger issue, and seem to apply to BOTH sides.


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Subject: RE: BS: NON-Partisan political comments
From: Amos
Date: 12 Sep 04 - 11:06 AM

Bruce:

Sorry. You predicted correctly.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: NON-Partisan political comments
From: Ron Davies
Date: 12 Sep 04 - 11:00 AM

It ain't over til....


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Subject: RE: BS: NON-Partisan political comments
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Sep 04 - 10:51 AM

The Democratic partisans just can't give it a rest. They are shrill, hysterical, and alienating everyone in the middle, to the left, and to the right, with their hatred and fear of Bush. There is precious little chance of you being able to get beyond 10 posts in any American political threads between now and November, without them crashing in and screaming in the faces of anyone who won't vote their way. They are the mirror image of the Bushites.

If Bush actually does open up a lead over Kerry (he broke away from Arizona as a result of the RNC bounce--that state is now considered to be Bush's), the donkey brayers will only grow more restless, agitated, and ugly.


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Subject: RE: BS: NON-Partisan political comments
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Sep 04 - 09:53 AM

and from Foolestroupe...

"I have always found that the absolute best in any field are truly wonderful human beings - it's only ever the second raters that need to order everybody around and demonstrate their 'pseudo-greatness' to everybody (including most especially thhemselves!). "

Amos:

Can we please avoid thread drift? I think there are other threads for your point. I would like to get to the Great Truths, not argue.


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Subject: RE: BS: NON-Partisan political comments
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Sep 04 - 09:52 AM

The country is no more polarized than it was in 2000, but the polarization is being fueled by the Democrats and Republicans. Most others of us (the 35% or so who don't align ourselves with the two parties) could give a shit about their "issues" with one another. It's all a smokescreen for the American oligarchs to screw the people.


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Subject: RE: BS: NON-Partisan political comments
From: Amos
Date: 12 Sep 04 - 09:44 AM

The polarization of the country is pretty much attributable to the Great Unifier. A recent column in the NY Times examines the character assassination strategies of the administration against Kerry, and earlier against Dean and McCain, and how far from reality it goes to achieve its ends.

Truth goes out the window with these people; Karl Rovew is masterfgul at hiring the right liar at the right time.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: NON-Partisan political comments
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 12 Sep 04 - 09:39 AM

"Power corrupts: absolute power corrupts absolutely"


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Subject: RE: BS: NON-Partisan political comments
From: DougR
Date: 11 Sep 04 - 06:44 PM

Ture, Jack, true. I agree completely.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: NON-Partisan political comments
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 11 Sep 04 - 05:51 PM

Its not Partisan to say that Bush is bad for the country. Not if you sincerely believe it.


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Subject: RE: BS: NON-Partisan political comments
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 11 Sep 04 - 05:49 PM

I'm not Partisan at all in US politics. But I think that George Bush/Cheney/Rove are bad for the country and need to be voted out. I'm no fan of Kerry or the Democratic party but they are a lot better than what we have now.


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Subject: RE: BS: NON-Partisan political comments
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Sep 04 - 10:53 AM

and one not originally political, but obvious wisdom...


Little Hawk

"I think it's a control issue with people. They want to be in control of the agenda in some way. They want their version of reality to rule and be sovereign at all times. That's a control issue."


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Subject: RE: BS: NON-Partisan political comments
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Sep 04 - 10:03 AM

Peter K (Fionn)

" Can there really be that many unquestioning Americans who absorb all their information through partisan channels and resolutely close their minds to all else? "


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Subject: RE: BS: NON-Partisan political comments
From: Bobert
Date: 11 Sep 04 - 08:25 AM

Unfortuantely, the system that Repubocrats have devised *insures* partisanship and is highly dependent on partisanship. Partisanship is a multi-billion-dollar business...

Divide and conquer...

Ya' gotta keep 'um seperated...

As long as we have a winner take all system and horrible redisticking we will have partisanship and bullying by the fraternity in power. And when I say power, that's exactly what it is. Brute power. The problem with power is that it in itself is corrupting. If you have it then there's certainly no point in compromising...

Without compromise, partisanship can only get worse and worse and government be less about *governing* and more about *ruling*. No one likes to be ruled and thus: bitterness and partisanship...

My own opinion is that the current fraternity is the worst I've seen in my life time in taking no-compromise, we-won-so-kiss-our-asses partisanship to the highest levels imaginative which, of course,just brings on deeper partisanship...

And the beat goes on...

Bobert


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Subject: BS: NON-Partisan political comments
From: beardedbruce
Date: 11 Sep 04 - 07:15 AM

I doubt very much if the extremists on BOTH sides can let this thread stay reasonable, but I would like to share some of the observations that I have read here, in a non-partisan way. I think that some of these may be among the great truths of the world Then again, I could be wrong...

I have tried to give the person who posted the quote: But I think that the statements will stand regardless.




Bobert

"There is a real danger when a sigment of society becomes so brainwashed that they cannot tolerate other folks view points and America is rapidly becoming just that... "



Little Hawk

Here's a common delusion: "My political party is the good one, and can be trusted to save our nation. The other political party is the bad one and will lead us to hell in a handbasket."

"Anyone who has confidence in either the Democrats OR the Republicans is probably clueless."



kendall

"In the end it will make no difference. 90% of us have made up our minds and nothing will change them. "


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