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Worst Performance I Ever Heard

Rabbi-Sol 22 Jul 04 - 03:35 PM
Little Hawk 22 Jul 04 - 03:42 PM
SINSULL 22 Jul 04 - 03:42 PM
Little Hawk 22 Jul 04 - 04:01 PM
Big Mick 22 Jul 04 - 04:01 PM
GUEST,Rodney "Turtle" Schelle 22 Jul 04 - 04:14 PM
Once Famous 22 Jul 04 - 04:22 PM
Georgiansilver 22 Jul 04 - 04:30 PM
Bert 22 Jul 04 - 04:31 PM
GUEST,Rodney "Turtle" Schelle 22 Jul 04 - 04:44 PM
Ed. 22 Jul 04 - 05:07 PM
Once Famous 22 Jul 04 - 05:19 PM
TheBigPinkLad 22 Jul 04 - 05:22 PM
Little Hawk 22 Jul 04 - 06:34 PM
Rabbi-Sol 22 Jul 04 - 06:38 PM
Rapparee 22 Jul 04 - 06:53 PM
The Fooles Troupe 22 Jul 04 - 07:03 PM
Little Brother 22 Jul 04 - 09:47 PM
GUEST,Gerry 22 Jul 04 - 09:55 PM
woodsie 22 Jul 04 - 10:01 PM
Rabbi-Sol 22 Jul 04 - 10:20 PM
Joe Offer 22 Jul 04 - 11:00 PM
fi_in_nz 23 Jul 04 - 12:06 AM
Amergin 23 Jul 04 - 12:28 AM
The Fooles Troupe 23 Jul 04 - 02:58 AM
The Beast of Farlington 23 Jul 04 - 04:47 AM
GUEST,DIVILTHEBIT 23 Jul 04 - 05:59 AM
GUEST,Larry K 23 Jul 04 - 09:14 AM
GUEST,leeneia 23 Jul 04 - 09:52 AM
Dave Bryant 23 Jul 04 - 11:10 AM
GUEST,Hugh Jampton 23 Jul 04 - 11:53 AM
GUEST,mick 23 Jul 04 - 12:39 PM
Big Al Whittle 23 Jul 04 - 01:06 PM
GUEST,frogprince 23 Jul 04 - 01:18 PM
Rabbi-Sol 23 Jul 04 - 01:27 PM
GUEST,Melani 23 Jul 04 - 01:43 PM
Rabbi-Sol 23 Jul 04 - 02:02 PM
Leadfingers 23 Jul 04 - 09:54 PM
DonMeixner 24 Jul 04 - 12:15 AM
GUEST,LadyJean 24 Jul 04 - 12:32 AM
GUEST,sorefingers 24 Jul 04 - 03:23 AM
Richard Bridge 24 Jul 04 - 03:28 AM
Georgiansilver 24 Jul 04 - 01:20 PM
Gorgeous Gary 24 Jul 04 - 02:17 PM
GUEST 24 Jul 04 - 03:17 PM
Joe_F 24 Jul 04 - 06:28 PM
GUEST,Tom Hamilton 24 Jul 04 - 09:25 PM
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Subject: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: Rabbi-Sol
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 03:35 PM

I am wondering if some of you can share with us the worst performance you ever heard. Mine took place about 25 years ago in a place called Dunmor, Kentucky at Lake Malone State Park. The name of the group was The Kentucky Playboys who billed themselves as a combination Blugrass & Country Western group. Besides singing completely out of tune & sounding like a bunch of castrated alligators, their instrumentation was completely out of synch with each other. They would forget the words to their songs and have to stop them in the middle. There was only one song that they really knew the words to was called "Silver Wings" and they must have repeated that song at least 8 times during the 3 hour performance. One member of the band was called "the Albino" and another was called "Charlie the Little Indian Boy". There were 3 others who I do not remember and would rather forget. There were 2 guitars, a bass, a banjo,and a fiddle. The audience down there was probably not used to hearing anything better, because they applauded constantly and could not figure out why we were laughing our sides off. SOL ZELLER


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 03:42 PM

That sounds just unforgettable, Rabbi! I only wish I had been there to witness it. It sounds like one of those stories Spaw used to make up about Paw and Cletus. Damn shame the movie industry hasn't found those guys. They would be perfect for a musical scene or two in the deep south. Maybe if they did a remake of "Deliverance" they could work those guys into a scene?

The worst performance I ever saw was Kris Kristofferson at the Riverboat in Toronto. He was so hung over that he basically couldn't perform. After several false starts and wretchedly bad attempts at doing his songs he apologized to the audience and said he'd refund everyone's money and pick up the tab and they could come back another night...which he did. I went again on the subsequent night, and he performed just fine.

I've also seen some high school rock bands that were stunningly awful.


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: SINSULL
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 03:42 PM

Sounds as if you behaved pretty badly, Sol. Why not just leave and allow the audience to enjoy themselves?


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 04:01 PM

Actually, I've always kind of wondered what a castrated alligator's singing would sound like...not to mention a whole chorus of castrated alligators.


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: Big Mick
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 04:01 PM

Bar none, it was Shane McGowan with the Popes at the first US held Guinness Fleadh on Randal's Island in NYC. The man was so drunk and out of it he fell off stage. I am told he soiled himself. I had waited several hours for this and was completely disgusted that he would treat his audience this way.

Mick


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: GUEST,Rodney "Turtle" Schelle
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 04:14 PM

As a lifetime member of the Kentucky Playboys I wish to register a protest agaisnt Rabbi-Sol fer tarnshing our repitations! We can sing way better than he can and we can play him right offen the stage any time we wants to! Rabbi-Sol is a feminate fony and he can go stick his head up a skunk's ass as far as we-all are concerned! Silver Wings is a killer song. If Rabbi-Sol could write even half as good a song as Silver Wings I would bend down and kiss his lily white feminate hand but he can't. He couldn't write a good song iffen his life depeneded on it. Folks in Dunmor don't need to hear from you Rabbi!

p.s. We did Silver Wings 9 times! You cain't even count.


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: Once Famous
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 04:22 PM

Hey, Guest Rodney whatever,

How far apart are your eyes?


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 04:30 PM

Little Hawk.. a chorus of castrated alligators sounds very similar to a chorus of castrated crocodiles..Hope that helps. Be Blessed


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: Bert
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 04:31 PM

If you really want to hear BAD join a songwriter's club.


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: GUEST,Rodney "Turtle" Schelle
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 04:44 PM

They are farther apart then your ass and yer corn hole Martin Gibson!


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: Ed.
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 05:07 PM

What purpose is served by looking for 'the worst' in other people?


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: Once Famous
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 05:19 PM

How about entertainment that is easy to laugh at?


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: TheBigPinkLad
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 05:22 PM

I don't think people were looking for it. Just the opposite in fact. I have the distiction of being one of the people subjected to Bob Dylan on the Isle of Wight ...


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 06:34 PM

That may stand as the worst Bob Dylan performance of all time.   Fortunately he's been quite good every time I've seen him.


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: Rabbi-Sol
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 06:38 PM

Rodney, I hope the Musical skills of the Kentucky Playboys have improved greatly in the last 25 years. You certainly had enough time to practice. By the way, Silver Wings was written by Merle Haggard, and yes, I admit I can not write music as well as he does. But your 8 or 9 renditions of the song that night did not do him justice. I certainly did not have to pay $10 to hear it done that many times.
I have been involved in Bluegrass & Folk music for the past 30 years, and have been involved in booking talent for certain venues. I certainly know how to tell the good from the bad. All I can say is that the skill of your performance that night at Lake Malone, matched the proficiency of your spelling in your personally insulting post to me on this forum. The good folks in Dunmor, Kentucky deserve a lot better. SOL ZELLER


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: Rapparee
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 06:53 PM

In college we would have groups that were "in between" (Chicago and St. Louis, for instance) come play. There was the Mitchell Trio (with someone named John Denver), Judy Collins, and others. All but one gave us the same quality of performance and attention they would have given a New York audience -- true performers and troupers.

The other one (and I think I've deliberately forgotten the group), they, well, they stunk. It was like attending the first practice of a group of musicians brought together by someone who said, "You guys ought to get together sometime." One fell off the stage, a guitar string broke and wasn't replaced (!), about half of their sound equipment worked, and they didn't tune to each other.


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 07:03 PM

I doubt if the "GUEST" was the real thing - we have lots of Clowns on the Cat who think it amusing to pretend in that fashion, Sol.


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: Little Brother
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 09:47 PM

Hey Rodney, are you still with the Kentucky Playboys and where can I catch your act. Has your group ever won any IBMA awards?


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 09:55 PM

I've heard some bad performances from some pretty good people,
but I'm not keen to drag them through the mud(cat) for the one bad show.

I've heard some performances that I didn't enjoy at all but where I can
only blame myself for not keeping up with the performer. About the only
time I've ever walked out on a concert was one that Bonnie Raitt gave,
probably in the early 1980s. I was expecting folk, but I guess she had
gone over to rock many years before, and my then-date/now-wife
and I just found it too loud for our taste and left.

I went to a Mary Black concert expecting folk & got pop instead and
didn't enjoy it a bit. I wasn't the only one in the audience who didn't
know she had changed directions - about 6 songs into the proceedings,
someone yelled out, "Sing something Irish!" Well, maybe he and I were
the only ones not keeping up, everyone else seemed to be having a
good time.

One more little story. The first time I saw James Keelaghan he was
playing in a venue that was much too large for the turnout. Having
the audience scattered about in little clumps here and there did
nothing for the atmosphere of the performance, but what was worse
was that the sound guy was unabe to get rid of an extremely annoying
buzzing sound. No one was enjoying that concert, Keelaghan probably
least of all. Someone yelled out, "play acoustic!" but Keelaghan
ignored him, hoping the sound guy would be able to fix the problem.
Finally Keelaghan gave up and said he would play acoustic if we
would all move in closer. We did, he did, and the rest of the evening
was sensational.


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: woodsie
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 10:01 PM

Now Bob Dylan, there's somebody who treats his audience with utter contempt. Don't get me wrong he is one of my all time favourite musician/artistes, but why does he do it? Walks onto the stage grunts a bit and walks off again - He's got millions so why does he tour? if his heart is not in the performance. I reckon he just gets a kick out of taking the piss out of us.

PS Van Morrison, now there's another wanker!


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: Rabbi-Sol
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 10:20 PM

The only performance my wife and I walked out on was one by Albert Collins during one of the Nassau Community College Folk Festivals. The guy was already too loud to begin with, but then he decided to mike the amplifiers on top of that. At that point we figured that our eardrums were a little more valuable than his performance. SOL ZELLER


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 Jul 04 - 11:00 PM

I'll vote for Dylan, too. When I saw him, there was a noisy rock band that opened for him. Then Dylan came on for a 45-minute set. Garbled vocals and muddy guitar work - and he didn't say a word between songs.
I paid to attend a concert not a 45-minute set.

I saw John Denver once - he sang for almost three hours without a break, and put on a darn good show. Of all the performers I've seen, I think John Denver gave the most effort.

-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: fi_in_nz
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 12:06 AM

Steeleye Span in Auckland a couple of months ago.

Attrocious sound - so bad that an audience member had to stand up and tell them (to agreement from the rest of the crowd) half way through the concert. They started with A Calling On Song a capella, totally out of tune and I've seen much better attempts from our local performers than they managed. To cap it all, Ms Prior prancing around the stage dressed in a 12 yr old fairy outfit......

Don't mind if any of them read this, it was the worst value concert I've ever been to...

My sister was at the Fleadh in London this year and said Bob Dylan was appauling, I've managed to miss seeing him about four times in the last 10 years and it sounds like that's a good thing.


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: Amergin
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 12:28 AM

I was at a show with four acts on New Year's Eve...and the first act was bad she had an accordian, but all her songs she didn't sing she kind of wobbled them out...the same lines over and over and over...it got really annoying...but she was nothing on the next act....

the next act was a person (the jury is still out whether this person was male or female) who had an electric guitar....it's backup band was a computer annd a movie projector that it had some one point at the wall behind it for added effect I suppose...and all the songs it started out with "This is a song I wrote. It doesn't have a name, but it is a bout me, so i think you will like it." All the songs sounded identical to the one before it.

Thank god the next two acts were outstanding....I highly recommend Nathan Moore (a wonderful songwriter and singer)...and the fabulous Myshkin Ruby Warblers.


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 02:58 AM

"he decided to mike the amplifiers" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"the first act was bad she had an accordian"


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: The Beast of Farlington
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 04:47 AM

Ozzy Osbourne's Blizzard of Oz in the eighties. So bad I nearly went to sleep. And that's hard as he plays so loud!


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: GUEST,DIVILTHEBIT
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 05:59 AM

Shane McGowan and the Popes at Waterford Flaedh Mor 1992 in a totally pissed first place
Dolores Keane in a snattered second at Ballyshannon 1999 or so


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: GUEST,Larry K
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 09:14 AM

I saw Kenny Rankin in the mid 70's in Boston at Pall's Mall.   Did a 45 minute set and walked off.   Didn't seem like he cared a lot. We felt cheated.

I saw him last year at the Ark in Ann Arbor.   Was a much better concert and I enjoyed him a lot more.


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 09:52 AM

The worst for me was a concert by the Juilliard String Quartet, maybe 12 years ago.

They mooched out on stage wearing their blazers and hush-puppies without acknowledging the applause in any way. They played music, and at least one instrument produced such godawful shrieks and squeaks that my ears actually ached. I was seated next to the wall, so to give them a chance, I moved to the aisle to listen. It was just as bad.

They played a Haydn trio, and I said, "That was nice." My husband, who knew the piece, said, "They were coming in at the wrong times."

Meanwhile, the audience kept applauding nicely. I decided later that many of the elderly just couldn't hear the high-frequency shrieks and squeaks any more. The Quartet never did acknowledge our existence or any applause. I think they were ashamed of themselves.


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 11:10 AM

At one folk club we had particular singer who really was bad-He used to amuse people though. When he had a pick-up installed in his guitar, he asked the sound man to make him up a lead. The following week he was presented with one which had a 1/4 jack on one end and a mains plug on the other (I gather that the sound guy left out the fuse - just in case).

He then started having guitar and singing lessons and did improve somewhat. After that he often wasn't given a spot anymore - as the organiser said "He used to be wonderfully bad - but now he's just mediocre".


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: GUEST,Hugh Jampton
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 11:53 AM

Spot on Woodsie. I saw the orally challenged Van Morrison do a New Year Eve show on t.v. some time back and he was appalling.


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: GUEST,mick
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 12:39 PM

I saw Jackson C Framk in the late sixties/early seventies in London - at Bunjies I think it was . That was the most miserable, narkey performance ever. When he come on stage Franks glowered at the audience without saying a word for what seemed like ten minutes ; then he went straight into the set without introducing any of the songs . when the break came he just walked off the stage and reappeared about half an hour later . Half way through the second set he spoke. "Has anyone here done anything about Biafra ?" (the Biafran war was going on at the time)After a while a man timidly put his hand up .Jackson C Frank asked him what he had done and the man told him he had written a poem for Biafra .jackson scowled at him and said " A poem hmmm.Well I suppose that's better than nothing " then looked around at the rest of us with contempt ,sang a few more songs and that was it.
Having said that, he did sing impeccably.


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 01:06 PM

In the film Michael Collins there is a truly toe curling version of Skibereen, an Julia Roberts comes a close second in the same movie= sort of sean nos thankyou!


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: GUEST,frogprince
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 01:18 PM

I know this isn't folk, but I heard Frank Sinatra Jr. perform at a
mall northwest of Chicago about 25 years ago. It wasn't that his
singing was really bad; there was just no reason for him to be there;
the show was divided between songs about great stuff like the superficiality of California culture (treated totally superficially, without a glimmer of humor) and cloned , but lifeless, performances of
Frank Sr.'s stuff. The man mumbled a couple of small,feeble attempts
at humor or raport, but he had the personality of a wet doormat.


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: Rabbi-Sol
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 01:27 PM

When my wife & I helped to run the Borderline Coffehouse in Rockland County, N.Y., we used to book Aztec Two Step every year. They were always very good. One year, the guy who was booking the talent decided to save some money, and instead of booking the duo, he only booked Rex Fowler as a solo act. Needless to say, Rex bombed that night big time. He himself realized after that night that without his partner, he could not render a quality performance. Whenever we meet him, we can always joke together about that night's show which became known as Aztec One Step. I believe that was the first and last time that Rex ever tried to go solo. SOL ZELLER


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: GUEST,Melani
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 01:43 PM

For me, the worst one was due not to the quality of the performance but the volume. I went to see Luka Bloom in a state of high excitement, having heard him on the radio. The opening band was called the Bedlam Rovers, and the volume was so high I actually couldn't hear the music. I thought it was the worst thing I ever heard. The same was true for Luka Bloom. I found that by keeping my fingers in my ears I could screen out some of the bass and actually hear a little of the melody, but the whole thing was rather painful.

A few weeks later I was in a bookstore which had a really great Celtic-sounding CD playing over the store's sound system. When I asked who it was, they said, "The Bedlam Rovers." I felt really cheated, since they were obviously very good, but I couldn't have told that from their live performance.


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: Rabbi-Sol
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 02:02 PM

I don't kow why some people seem to think that louder is better. At Orthodox Jewish weddings the bands play so loud that you can not hear yourself or the person sitting next to you talk. It is impossible to carry on a conversation. I prefer the approach of the famous Bluegrass band, Doyle Lawson & Quicksilver. They set up only one mike for all 4 singers and their instruments. The result is a very sweet sounding melodious performance. SOL ZELLER


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: Leadfingers
Date: 23 Jul 04 - 09:54 PM

Having done some diabolically bad gigs my self at odd times in the last forty years , I feel I should NOT comment . However the volume thing issue seems worthy of comment . I Know I have it right if after about twenty minutes someone says 'We cant hear you very well at the back of the hall'.


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: DonMeixner
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 12:15 AM

For me without question, Black 47. I have heard them three times and all three times I heard men yelling with Bass and drums. The volume was turn up to "Melt and Modify". Why three times? I always give people the benefit of the doubt. Then I learned they were packing thir own sound. And I gave up.

Like our pal Leadfingers I have played a few pretty awful gigs over 30+ years either solo or with my band. Fair is fair, we all have off nights and I wouldn't be surprised if I was someones worse musical experience at some point.

Don


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: GUEST,LadyJean
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 12:32 AM

Several years ago I went to a Chieftains concert at the I.C. Light Amphitheater, in Pittsburgh.
The Chieftains were wonderful, as were the local groups they had asked to play with them.
But I hope to gracious the I.C Light Amphitheater is put out of our misery soon.
Who was the genius who put an outdoor concert venue right beside the railroad tracks, with Carson Street on the other side, and the Fort Pitt Bridge right behind it!
The Chieftains started to play and a big, noisy, freight train came rattling up the tracks. They stopped their music, played a few bars of "Freight Train" then started up again. The played through the motorcylces on the Fort Pitt Bridge, and a couple more trains.
I loved the music. I was up on my feet and dancing at the end. But the I.C. Light Amphitheater should be used only by really bad, really loud, bands.
If you're in Pittsburgh DON'T GO THERE!


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: GUEST,sorefingers
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 03:23 AM

Mad Donna, creepy piano players who whine rock songs over the top as they play, kinda like classical guitar .. it is a gallant but utterly futile exercise.


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 03:28 AM

There seems to be something a bit fogeyish about all this "loud is bad" stuff. Really too loud is really quite rare, albeit "trying to be loud with in adequate sound equipment you have, with the result that what comes out of the speakers is a wall of distortion" is less rare, but still pretty rare in folk and folk-related music.

Let me say that distortion also has its place, but usually only when used purposively, and not usually when introduced by the front-of-house system.


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 01:20 PM

Assuming that all the people on here are singers/musicians...let he who is without sin cast the first stone!
Be Blessed.


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: Gorgeous Gary
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 02:17 PM

The worst I ever heard was the opening act for one particular Moxy Fruvous show at the Ram's Head Tavern in Annapolis. One guy with a guitar...I heard a rumor he played with modern rock band Jimmie's Chicken Shack. What he was doing to that instrument qualified as guitar abuse and probably violated several Geneva Conventions. He seemed to be randomly throwing his strumming hand at the strings, resulting in an odd assortment of thunks and thuds. Oh, and not only couldn't he carry a tune in a bucket; I think tunes drill holes in buckets to get away from him. It was truly painful...how I kept my dinner down is beyond me!

-- Gary


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 03:17 PM

The very worst was playing back a tape of myself practicing a new song. I promptly decided that when it came singing I was a bloody good dancer.


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: Joe_F
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 06:28 PM

At the most painful performance I can remember (in Boston, about 1960), the pain was no fault of the performer's. He was Josh White, and he was fine, but he had gotten saddled with an -- impresario? handler? what do you call him? (I know what *I* would call him, but never mind) -- who took up at least half the time opining about various things & telling insipid dirty jokes. He told a story about an early civil-rights demonstration that had the audience cheering the racists. Fortunately, there was enought light for me to read a magazine.


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: GUEST,Tom Hamilton
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 09:25 PM

I think that the worst performers are the mordern day pop stars like Brittney spears/and boy bands and girl and her/his ilk, the reason is they sing they mime. but after all that you pays your money and you take your choice, after all you lot went to see these people, I mean you didn't need to go in the first place. I don't like Bob Dylan after hearing squeak through a song an the radio, I thought what a load of crap, and yet people go and watch this shit.
Beggars can't be choosers.


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: Don Firth
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 09:27 PM

I can certainly agree with the volume complaint. Some years ago my wife and I and a couple of friends attended a much anticipated concert by Liam Clancy and Tommy Makem. The theater was not that big—capacity maybe five- or six-hundred people—and there was really no need for amplification at all (I have performed in theaters of similar size and larger, just me and my classic guitar, without amplification—one, a theater that Richard Dyer-Bennet performed in and he didn't use amplification either). There were a couple of speakers on stage roughly the size of mini-vans and the volume was cranked up so loud that it was somewhat beyond the threshold of pain. We almost left (some people did), but we decided to tough it out. My ears rang for three days afterward.

If you want really putrid, try checking your local public access channel. I saw a guy a couple of months ago who sang off-key i.e. in the cracks between the keys (because he wrote most of his own songs, I didn't fully realize until he sang a couple of songs by other people that I recognized—more or less—how badly off-pitch he really was; he did everything in one key—D major, three chords, D, G, and A7, hesitated between chords, putting his fingers down one at a time on the G and having trouble barring the A7; and he only knew one strum (CHUNK-chunk-a-chunk-a-chunk-a, CHUNK-chunk-a-chunk-a-chunk-a, just whacking his whole hand loosely back and forth across the strings).

It was pretty obviously done on a home video camera, and since, for a half-hour, the view never varied and there were no breaks or cuts, I got the distinct impression that there was no one else there; I think he must have pointed the camera at a chair, sat down in the chair, reached over and turned the camera on, did his thing, then reached over and turned the camera off. The public access channel pretty much has to broadcast anything and everything people submit, so. . . . I kept watching him out of a sort of horrified fascination.

Full marks for chutzpah, but nuthin' for talent or ability. He looks like he's a fairly nice guy and he probably thinks he's hot stuff, but the really sad part is that he obviously doesn't have the judgment to realize that he's not. And apparently nobody wants to tell him the truth. Maybe someday, but not now, and not on television!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: GUEST,Tom Hamilton
Date: 24 Jul 04 - 10:54 PM

The worst performance I ever saw was at my local folk club, the paid 'artist' was a man called Tomas Lynch.
I thought he was bloody awful, I had never heard of him, and so I thought I might as well and go see what he's like. Bloody crap, he sang three well known songs but to different tunes so that you couldn't sing along with him, and then he played his Irish pipes, and he had the drones on a tape/cd. so he wasn't even playing them properly.
He was just awful, I tell you I had a better time in the house with toothache. in other words just crap.


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Subject: RE: Worst Performance I Ever Heard
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Jul 04 - 03:31 AM

Interesting thread. I'll agree with Big Mick: I was at that Randall's Island gig and Shane was shameful to see and painful to hear. In fact the second worst performance I ever saw was a Pogues gig where he drank a quart of whiskey, gargled into the mike all night, and passed out. I can also confirm the "kids of famous singers" observation: I saw an out-of-tune mess called The Makem Brothers once in Massachusetts, sons of Tommy but minus the talent. But I hear they improved at least!

Sorry to hear that Steeleye's stinking up NZ, though. I always liked them...


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