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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 18 May 04 - 03:50 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 18 May 04 - 03:48 PM

The Hollywood Knights.

Has an unbelievable cast in it. It's about a car club and one night of initiation for new members in October of 1965. And Jimmie Shine is off to Vietnam. The last GREAT movie of innocence prior to the Vietnam War.

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: GUEST
Date: 18 May 04 - 03:06 PM

witch hunter robin is good. have you seen lodoss war?


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: JenEllen
Date: 18 May 04 - 03:02 PM

I've seen Reign---same animators as Aeon Flux, right?, and a little too gory for my tastes. For good anime and GREAT music, there's always the Cowboy BeBop series and movie. Yoko Kanno just plain rocks. Her mastery of musical genres never ceases to amaze me.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: GUEST
Date: 18 May 04 - 02:45 PM

reign-a great anime series...it centers around alexander the great


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 May 04 - 02:42 PM

There are some older obscure black and white films I keep my eyes open for on the cable channels because they don't seem likely to turn up in the video store or at the library. Edmund Gwenn in Mr. 880. Two with Robert Donat are The Thirty-nine Steps and The Ghost Goes West (great cast, also with Jean Arthur, Eugene Pallette and Elsa Lanchester).

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: JenEllen
Date: 18 May 04 - 02:22 PM

Hey now, I actually like anime....and add another vote for Red Violin. Well done.

One that ranked right up in 'fantastic' was The Man on the Train. Not only because I adore Jean Rochefort's wrinkly face, but because it was so complete a transformation between the two men. Wunnerful.

A foreign one that freaked me out was He Loves Me, He Loves Me Not. You think Audrey Tautou, you think pixie-sweet. Not this one. There's a spot mid-film where time goes backwards and it is a 'sunofabitch' moment where you get to see another point of view. I love those kinds of surprise, when they are well done.

One I did read about and happen to rent last week was The Maldonado Miracle. Salma Hayek's directorial debut, and a fine first-film.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: RangerSteve
Date: 18 May 04 - 01:54 PM

Robomatic - that was Cary Grant, not James Stewart in "Arsenic and Old Lace". I though his performance defined "overacting", but otherwise it's a great movie.

There's one movie that may have gotten wider distribution in the UK, but I never heard of it until it showed on video here in the states -
it's called "The Emperor's New Clothes" - not the HC Anderson tale - this one concerns a plot to smuggle Napoleon off of St. Helena after replacing him with a look-alike. Everything goes wrong, and eventually ends just right. I think it stars Ian Holme. I get all the Ians mixed up. It stars the same Ian who played the priest in "The Fifth Element".


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 18 May 04 - 01:45 PM

L'Enfant Sauvage (1969), (The Wild Child) by Truffaut.

Le Peuple Migrateur (2001) (Winged Migration)

Not a bad idea to stick a link to the pictures in your post.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: Rain Dog
Date: 18 May 04 - 01:20 PM

Not seen them in a few years now but I did like


Harold and Maude - Starring Bud Cort and Ruth Gordon. A black comedy

Hellazpoppin' - a madcap comedy from 1941. Has lot of visual jokes in it

Proof - An Australian film from 1991. The main character is a blind photographer


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: radriano
Date: 18 May 04 - 12:50 PM

I would recommend two films I just viewed.

One is "The Magdeline Sisters" - An drama that charts several years in the young lives of four "fallen women" who were rejected by their families and abandoned to the mercy of the Catholic Church in 1960s Ireland. While women's liberation sweeps the globe, these women are stripped of their liberty and dignity and condemned to indefinite servitude in The Magdalene Laundries, so that they may atone for their "sins."

The other is "Rabbit Proof Fence" - Australia's government-sponsored integration program in the 1930s ripped apart families and broke many hearts. This film follows three half-breed Aborigine girls who are forcibly removed from their families and sucked into the adoption process. With fierce resolve to return home, the girls follow a rabbit-proof fence that extends for 1,500 miles throughout the western continent.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: GUEST,Hugh Jampton
Date: 18 May 04 - 11:16 AM

"The Freaks". A b/w film that tells the story of circus freaks such as dwarves, double headed women, giants et al that rebel against the "normals" in the circus.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 18 May 04 - 09:56 AM

OH! Just thought of another obscure one...it's called "Tango Cafe" (or maybe "Cafe Tango?" an absolutely BRILLIANT film on the tango, with Raoul Julia.

..xx..e


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 18 May 04 - 09:54 AM

This is hardly a thread of obscure films, guys. There are a few in the bunch, but I'll just accept that some of you either don't get out to see a lot, or really believe that these have all slipped through our radar!

I'll add one to the list...it's called "Tim" with a VERY young Mel Gibson, and Piper Laurie. It's the only Gibson film I really loved, as he plays a slightly retarded young man who falls in love with an older woman. It was written by Colleen Macullough, and it's definitely worth hunting for...xx..e


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 18 May 04 - 09:41 AM

All of Me with Steve Martin and Lily Tomlin


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: Peter T.
Date: 18 May 04 - 09:34 AM

"Spirited Away" is not exactly obscure, but people don't exactly flock to Japanese cartoons. All of Miyazaki's films are interesting (the earlier ones for children are an acquired taste); but "Spirited Away" and "Princess Monononke" (The JenEllen of Japan) are both worth seeing.

"L'Atalante" is one of the greatest films of all time, but no one in North America has heard of it. That is true for a host of French films, but "L'Atalante" is particularly wonderful.

There are a whole pile of westerns made in the 1950's starring Jimmy Stewart and directed by Anthony Mann (starting with Winchester 73) that are all worth seeing -- they are unconventional, don't do what Westerns are supposed to do.

They have finally released "Picnic" on DVD, which I don't think was ever released on video; and I don't think anyone has seen it since 1955.It has not worn well -- it is a film of the famous original play by William Inge, and the playishness of it shows through -- and it is cheesy in parts, but it has some wonderful moments -- it was filmed on location in Kansas in 1954, and shows it. The standout is the young Kim Novak, who became a major star on the basis of a sensuous dance scene during the Picnic. Susan Strasberg is great too ("I memorized all of Shakespeare's sonnets last summer....."). It is so 1950s that it is a kind of classic (like Rebel Without A Cause).

A completely ridiculous, cheesy movie that I saw last week was "Against All Flags" with Errol Flynn and Maureen O'Hara -- a pirate film, with Maureen as the JenEllen of Madagascar.

yours,

Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: izzy
Date: 18 May 04 - 08:49 AM

Ealing comedy is great, as robomatic has pointed out --Passport to Pimlico is also a good one, and the ORIGINAL version of The Ladykillers, with Alec Guinness, is hilarious. The Lavender Hill Mob is very funny.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: robomatic
Date: 17 May 04 - 09:48 PM

Old English Black and Whites:
Anything with Alec Guinness - The Man in the White Suit, Kind Hearts and Coronets

Anything with Edmund Gwenn and/or Charles Laughton.
Peter Cook and Dudley Moore in the original version of Bedazzled which is about twenty times better than the recent one, but it is very English, very sixties, and black and white.

Lovely animated film of the early 70's called The Point.

Screwball coming of age film of the sixties You're a Big Boy Now.

The earlier Woody Allen flicks: Take the Money and Run, Bananas, Love and Death, Annie Hall.

David Niven as James Bond in a wild take-off of the genre: Casino Royale.

Old cheesy horror films with Vincent Price.
Doctor Sardonicus

Old American Black and Whites:
Humphrey Bogart: Treasure of the Sierra Madre, High Sierra,

Crime Dramas: Asphalt Jungle with Sam Jaffe and Sterling Hayden

Screwball Comedies: Jimmy Stewart in Arsenic and Old Lace and Harvey.

A lot of poeple like the Katherine Hepburn Spencer Tracy movies.

Silent Flicks: The ever endearing Harold Lloyd who did most if not all his own stunts even though he lost half of his hand in an accident. He made it into the talkies.

The Classic Japanese Samurai movies. Anything directed by Akira Kurosawa and starring Toshiro Mifune. Seven Samurai, Yojimbo, Sanjuro. They are violent for their time. Also Sansho the Bailiff and Harp of Burma.

Classic Disney: Dumbo, Kirk Douglas in 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea

Good modern flicks that didn't get a big audience include:
Sci-fi: Gattacca with Uma Thurman Ethan Hawke and Jude Law
Chinese: King of Masks
Jonathon Demme as director: Something Wild, Stop Making Sense, Married to the Mob
David Sayle as director: City of Hope, a great little morality tale.

You can also check out the www.imdb.com which seems to have a record of every film ever made.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: GUEST,John O'Lennaine
Date: 17 May 04 - 09:41 PM

"No Blade of Grass"
I saw that in a theatre circa 1970 and have never heard of it since. I haven't been able to find it on video, it's as though it was deleted.

"Rock & Roll Wolf"
Saw that on late night TV around the same time, and never heard of it again.

Both films I'd like to see again, 'cause I'm not sure if I liked them or not, but they stuck in my memory so they must have had something about them. It looks like my memory is where they'll stay.

I don't think "McCabe and Mrs. Miller" has been mentioned yet. It should be, and now it has.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: izzy
Date: 17 May 04 - 09:24 PM

So interested that Sandy mentioned IKWIG. Anything by Powell and Pressburger (otherwise known as the Archers) tends to be fabulous. The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp, Black Narcissus, The 49th Parallel (although a little too obviously war propoganda), A Canterbury Tale, A Matter of Life and Death, and of course The Red Shoes are all fascinating and deeply artistic (along with IKWIG). They had the gift of assembling the best actors and technical crew available --Roger Livesey, Anton Walbrook (marvellous Austrian actor), Wendy Hiller, Deborah Kerr, John Laurie, and the fantastic Technicolor cameraman Jack Cardiff. Powell's early film The Edge of the World, although clearly in the Flaherty school of documentary realism, is also of interest for its touches of early lyricism. However, I find their later expressionist period (with its wonderful use of early Technicolor) the most exciting phase of his career. Criterion have actually put out some of their films on DVD, when they were previously unavailable in North America, and I see that A Matter of Life and Death is coming out on DVD soon.

Some other great out of the way films are David Lean's Brief Encounter, early British Hitchcock, and Pygmalion.

Sorry for the long-winded message.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: Deda
Date: 17 May 04 - 09:00 PM

Harry and Walter Go to New York - slapstick silliness with Elliot Gould, James Caan, Carole Kane, Diane Keaton and (I think) Michael Caine.   

Also, a wonderful B&W film called Hester Street, also with Carol Kane. A lot of it is in Yiddish with English subtitles, paints a vivid picture of Jewish ghetto life in NY in late 1800s, early 1900s.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 17 May 04 - 07:43 PM

"I Know Where I'm Going" with Wendy Hiller, Roger Livesey (spelling?) and Pamela Brown (1940s). Also "Heartland" with Conchata Farrell (spelling?) and Rip Torn. I thought "Girl With a Pearl Earring" was one of the most beautifully filmed movies I've ever seen, but, truth to tell, I see very few movies.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: Mudlark
Date: 17 May 04 - 06:50 PM

Thanks, Micca...it came to me the minute I shut down. Also...Buffalo 66 (the last time I liked Christine Ricci in anything), and a great light comedy called Hearts of the West (the last thing I really, really liked Jeff Bridges in...he is quite young in this movie).
It also has Blythe Danner in it. I'd also give any movie she--and Stockard Channing--are in at least a look. Great comedy with Channing, Jack Nickelson and Warren Beatty...again, can't remember name but it takes place in LA in the 30's...very funny..


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: GUEST
Date: 17 May 04 - 06:19 PM

Let's make it three references to the Red Violin.

Also, "The Man Who Wasn't There", with Billy Bob Thornton, directed by the Coen Brothers, in the tradition of the best film noir of the 30's and 40's, in black and white. I have no idea why this one didn't get into mainstream theaters, except for the fact that it was in B&W. Thornton is one of the best actors around.

Just a thought, but for those of us who hate using French phrases, (they sound too pompous), what's a good alternative for "film noir"?


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: Alaska Mike
Date: 17 May 04 - 06:11 PM

A wonderful movie that I had never heard of was "The Red Violin". Another that my daugter rented that I thoroughly enjoyed was "Girl with a Pearl Earring" (based on the painting by Vermeer). I heartily recommend both.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: Micca
Date: 17 May 04 - 05:08 PM

Mudlark, I think the one you mean about the pig is called "A Private function"


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: Mudlark
Date: 17 May 04 - 04:49 PM

Down by Law, Palookaville, Winter Guest, Round Midnight, Red Violin, The Sweet Life, Little Voice, Ghengis Blues, The Usual Suspects...these are my favorite movies, and memory being what it is these days, there are lots more, but I can't remember names...like the one where the chiropodist and his social climbing wife nab a pig, anything with Denholm Elliot, Withnail and I...Mr. Hulot's Holiday and Mon Uncle....


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: GUEST
Date: 17 May 04 - 04:38 PM

amelie is a good one too


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: GUEST,Larry K
Date: 17 May 04 - 03:40 PM

A great movie that is not well known is "Donicick and Eugene".   I think it stars Tom Hulce, but I could be wrong.   Starts slow, but hang with it.    Incredibly powerful by the end.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: MAG
Date: 17 May 04 - 03:35 PM

Do you want up or down? *Danile* is great but makes a lot more sense if you can follow all the inside stuff about the Communist Party. and it is mostly a downer until the very end. (from Doctorow's *Book of Daniel.*)

*Truly Madly Deeply* starts off as a major downer but gets wickedly funny.

those old British comedies like *Man in the White Suit* are a scream. Especially if you like it dry.

For pure escape, even if you don't like Hollywood blockbuster, the entire Star Wars trilogy.

Danny Kaye's *Court Jester.* actually, anything by Danny Kaye.

the rental places should have all of these under"vintage."


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: GUEST
Date: 17 May 04 - 03:26 PM

saving ryan's privates


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 17 May 04 - 03:24 PM

Fitzcarraldo, Whistle Down The Wind, Dead Of Night, The Little Kidnappers, The Little Fugitive... all fascinating and most not well known. And all available on video or DVD, except maybe Dead Of Night and Whistle Down The Wind.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: Fred Miller
Date: 17 May 04 - 03:14 PM

the stone boy. tommorow. both with Robert Duval.


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: GUEST
Date: 17 May 04 - 03:09 PM

oh and check out a movie called Shadow Magic...it is about the first movie cameras in china...


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Subject: RE: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: GUEST
Date: 17 May 04 - 03:08 PM

there is a fantastic movie about the anzacs called gallipoli....it has a very young mel gibson in it....personally i like him when he was younger better than i do when he was older...


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Subject: BS: Best Movies You'd Never Heard Of??
From: JenEllen
Date: 17 May 04 - 03:01 PM

I've been spending a lot of time lately in "Rest Mode" and as a by-product have been watching a lot of movies. I've never been a big fan of the Hollywood Blockbuster type of thing, and so I've found myself picking through a lot of movies that I'd never even heard about. I've found a few gems, and was wondering if anyone else had similar experiences, or had a few to add to the "must rent" pot?

"Best Supporting Musical Instrument" goes to the piano in a movie I found last week called The Legend of 1900. The main character is a musical prodigy named Nineteen Hundred who was born on a cruise ship never sets foot on dry land. Interesting story, and done really well, but the piano? There is a lovely scene where Nineteen cures a fellow bandmate's sea-sickness by sitting them both on the bench, taking the brakes off the piano wheels, and playing a waltz as the piano rolls around the ballroom to the swells of the ocean. Really cute. There is also a piano-duel with Nineteen and JellyRoll Morton that is sublime. I'd never heard a word about it before, but am glad I found it.


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