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Recording of Golden Vanity

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GOLDEN VANITY
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THE BOLD TRELLITEE
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Jim Carroll 23 Jul 18 - 01:36 PM
GUEST,Martin Ryan 24 Jul 18 - 06:25 AM
clueless don 24 Jul 18 - 07:39 AM
Manitas_at_home 24 Jul 18 - 08:47 AM
GUEST,Reinhard 24 Jul 18 - 09:28 AM
clueless don 25 Jul 18 - 08:30 AM
Jim Carroll 25 Jul 18 - 08:53 AM
GUEST,Tunesmith 25 Jul 18 - 11:54 AM
Jim Carroll 25 Jul 18 - 12:03 PM
GUEST,Martin Ryan 25 Jul 18 - 12:08 PM
Jim Carroll 25 Jul 18 - 01:36 PM
GUEST,Spot 25 Jul 18 - 07:17 PM
The Sandman 27 Jul 18 - 04:18 AM
The Sandman 27 Jul 18 - 04:20 AM
GUEST,Musikverlag Mittelgebirge 01 Dec 18 - 05:14 AM
Dave Hanson 01 Dec 18 - 11:05 AM
Reinhard 02 Dec 18 - 03:24 AM
r.padgett 02 Dec 18 - 03:21 PM
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Subject: RE: Recording of Golden Vanity
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 23 Jul 18 - 01:36 PM

Reihardt
I found that one (we have the book) Extremly frustrating - it quotes a conversation including a couple of verses - no information of souce
I think what I am going to have to do is wait till the Irish folklore department comes out of hinernation I am going to have to ask them which one Tom Munnelly (my source and late friend) was referring to
For anybody interested, i've now found over fifty examples of recordings of the Child ballads from the tradition and several in print
A little overwhelming
Thanks for your help
Jim


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Subject: RE: Recording of Golden Vanity
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 24 Jul 18 - 06:25 AM

Jim

The one in Joyce is the well-known “men enough in Galway/Galloway...” song. It’s in his “Old Irish Music and Song” and notes its earlier publication in Ancient Irish Music.

Regards


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Subject: RE: Recording of Golden Vanity
From: clueless don
Date: 24 Jul 18 - 07:39 AM

So - going back to the inquiry in the original post in this thread:

Did Gordon Bok ever record it?


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Subject: RE: Recording of Golden Vanity
From: Manitas_at_home
Date: 24 Jul 18 - 08:47 AM

Lankum (formerly Lynched) have recorded this as The Turkish Reveille but I notice a version by Barbara Dane has already been listed above.


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Subject: RE: Recording of Golden Vanity
From: GUEST,Reinhard
Date: 24 Jul 18 - 09:28 AM

The Golden Vanity feat. Gordon Bok


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Subject: RE: Recording of Golden Vanity
From: clueless don
Date: 25 Jul 18 - 08:30 AM

Thank you! Good grief, I have that album! Guess I haven't listened to it in a while.

Don


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Subject: RE: Recording of Golden Vanity
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 25 Jul 18 - 08:53 AM

“men enough in Galway/Galloway...”
That's Lowlands of Holland' Martin - a relation of Bonny Bee Hom (Child 92)
A lovely version of one of the Tunney family singing that in the box already (Brigid sang it, but all her grandchildren make a nice job of it so I might use one of them
I came across a nice Wexford version of 'Captain Ward and the Rainbow' in Ranson's 'Songs of the Wexford Coast' - unfortunately no tune, but I'm working on that
I'm staggered at what's turning up - 'Queen Eleanor's Confession, and Broomfield Hill f.c,o,l
Thanks
Jim


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Subject: RE: Recording of Golden Vanity
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 25 Jul 18 - 11:54 AM

The first time I heard "Golden Vanity" was on a BBC radio show in 1960 sung by Pete Seeger. It was an hour long show featuring just Pete his banjo and 12 string guitar. I taped the show but it's on a reel to reel tape.


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Subject: RE: Recording of Golden Vanity
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 25 Jul 18 - 12:03 PM

An American version contains two lines that justify claims the folk song is high art

"Some were playing cards and some were playing dice
And some were standing round giving good advice"

Anybody who has worked in a factory or on a building site and watched the men playing cards or dominoes during the dinner break, must visualise that scene as clearly as I do
Brilliant!
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Recording of Golden Vanity
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 25 Jul 18 - 12:08 PM

Jim
Agreed re Lowlands of Holland, of course. Does that mean there’s a version of Golden Vanity in Joyce also - or have I lost the plot?

Regards


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Subject: RE: Recording of Golden Vanity
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 25 Jul 18 - 01:36 PM

No No version unfortunately - it seems to have sunk without a trace
You can't trust these feckin' apprentices!!
Jim


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Subject: RE: Recording of Golden Vanity
From: GUEST,Spot
Date: 25 Jul 18 - 07:17 PM

There is a version 'feat' Gordon Bok on Spotify. You can download Spotify free and listen to the song free. Just search under Gordon Bok, artist.

It is from a Minneapolis concert.

Not sure if this is the one you are looking for.

Surprising how much 'folk' there is on Spotify.


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Subject: RE: Recording of Golden Vanity
From: The Sandman
Date: 27 Jul 18 - 04:18 AM

Sara Carter, what a singer"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQLLRQNaVxg">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQLLRQNaVxg


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Subject: RE: Recording of Golden Vanity
From: The Sandman
Date: 27 Jul 18 - 04:20 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQLLRQNaVxg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQLLRQNaVxg">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQLLRQNaVxg


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Subject: RE: Recording of Golden Vanity
From: GUEST,Musikverlag Mittelgebirge
Date: 01 Dec 18 - 05:14 AM

Hello everybody,
I just uploaded a vinyl rip of "The Golden Vanitee" by Tony Rose and "his distinguished singing friends" to Youtube. It was released on the Trailer LP "Young Hunting" in 1970.
The "distinguished singing friends" are identified on Mainly Norfolk as Peter Bellamy, Heather Wood and Royston Wood of The Young Tradition - who may or may not have broken up at the time of the recording - plus June Tabor, John Kirkpatrick, Dave Calderhead and Kevin Sheils. What a lovely chorus!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJZl_tmnyfk


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Subject: RE: Recording of Golden Vanity
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 01 Dec 18 - 11:05 AM

Lonnie Donegan did a good recording of this song, he was very well into folk music and very knowlegable.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: Recording of Golden Vanity
From: Reinhard
Date: 02 Dec 18 - 03:24 AM

I do like young Scottish singer Iona Fyfe's version of The Golden Vanity from her forthcoming EP Dark Turn of Mind. Her 800 words essay on the song's history alone is worth perusing.


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Subject: RE: Recording of Golden Vanity
From: r.padgett
Date: 02 Dec 18 - 03:21 PM

Yes I sing the Golden Vanity learnt from the Tony Rose vinyl ~ I sing two verse before the chorus although Tony does sing it at a fair speed ~

Could get rather long with one verse I feel

Ray

Tony Rose was fine singer, concertina player and guitarist with mastery of Traditional ballads and songs


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