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pkferret 17 Feb 04 - 08:49 PM
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Subject: Origins: Trad. or copyright
From: pkferret
Date: 17 Feb 04 - 08:49 PM

1. What is the best source for finding out if a song is currently under copyright or trad., etc.?
2. If it is under copyright, what is the best source for finding out who wrote a song or tune?

I tried search the library of congress, via computer, but it mostly showed who had recorded the song, not who wrote it, or if the copyright was current or had expired.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Trad. or copyright
From: freightdawg
Date: 17 Feb 04 - 09:15 PM

a couple of sources that were suggested to me:

www.songfile.com

www.pdinfo.com

I've not checked them out quite yet, but I hope it helps.

Freightdawg


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Subject: RE: Origins: Trad. or copyright
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 17 Feb 04 - 09:59 PM

Here are links to the sites listed by Freightdawg. They seem to be the two most useful.
pdinfo
This site lists 3500 or so songs from 1922 or before that supposedly are in the public domain. Recent copyright statute revisions by Congressional Committee have changed the ground rules and pdinfo hasn't caught up. Put copyright in Lyrics and Knowledge search and look at previous threads. A real quagmire now.
By all means check out the revisions; go to Copyright Law of the United States

SongFile is one of the best if not the best on the web, but it won't answer all of your questions.

Posting titles here, because of the great variety of experience of contributors, may help you considerably.


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Subject: RE: Origins: Trad. or copyright
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 17 Feb 04 - 10:03 PM

pdinfo didn't work- pdinfo


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Subject: RE: Origins: Trad. or copyright
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Feb 04 - 01:58 AM

Actually, it's not a bad idea to ask here. A number of us have a great time researching the history of songs. There are lots of traditional songs that are misleadingly listed as being under copyright - we can usually come up with pretty accurate information, I think.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Origins: Trad. or copyright
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 18 Feb 04 - 04:11 AM

It is now rumoured - as no info has yet been formally released to the Australia Public - that one outcome of the proposed "Free" (???!!) Trade Agreement between Australia & USA is that Australia's copyright protection of 50 years after death of an author is to be extended to the US 70 years.

Robin


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Subject: RE: Origins: Trad. or copyright
From: M.Ted
Date: 18 Feb 04 - 08:43 PM

Try these two--they link to the official data bases at BMI and ASCAP--if someone claims a copyright on a song, they'll pretty much be in one or the other:

BMI.com

ASCAP Title Search


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Subject: RE: Origins: Trad. or copyright
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 19 Feb 04 - 12:23 AM

What do you plan to "do with it?"

Slip it into a simple CD - just do it....let reap any porfits

Play/Sing on international Song Quest - they know the laws.... better than you when you present your line-up

Have fun with a group of frieds in a bar...every-other 3rd Thursday of every other month with the letter "A" ....skip it neither you or they are that big.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: Origins: Trad. or copyright
From: pkferret
Date: 24 Feb 04 - 08:23 PM

Thank you for your help. Now if I can figure out how to add this thread to my personal page I'll be great.

As for what I want this info. for:
1. If we make a demo tape, I want to credit the song writer. (what do you call them, song writer, author, tune creator, .........)
2. In some cases, it would be nice to let the audience know who a song is written by. After all, we let them know when one of us wrote the song.
3. If we ever make a tape or CD, we're supposed to pay someone royalties, if it's not a traditional song. (There's another phrase for too. Trad. or ...... can't think of it.)

P.S. I'm new to mudcat, so if don't do things right, let me know,..... nicely.
      I like a site with a sense of humor!!!!!


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Subject: RE: Origins: Trad. or copyright
From: wysiwyg
Date: 24 Feb 04 - 08:34 PM

Just below the last post, or above the text/compose box, click ADD THREAD TO TRACER. See what happens! Welcome to Mudcat!

~Susan


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