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Subject: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: wilco
Date: 28 Dec 03 - 10:46 AM

Here are my favorites.
    Wreck on the Highway - Roy Acuff
    Don't Sell Daddy Anymore Whiskey - Molly O'Day
    The Drunken Driver - Molly O'Day


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Dec 03 - 11:38 AM

Billy of Tea


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Dec 03 - 11:44 AM

Father Dear Father Come Home
Please Don't Sell My Daddy No More Wine


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: nutty
Date: 28 Dec 03 - 11:46 AM

Away With Rum
Nancy Whisky


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 28 Dec 03 - 12:15 PM

Bring Us In Good Tea by the Kipper Family


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: Sorcha
Date: 28 Dec 03 - 12:35 PM

Does Thunder Road count?


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: HuwG
Date: 28 Dec 03 - 12:55 PM

As Nutty suggests, Away with Rum.

And More verses.

Both in the DT <g>


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 28 Dec 03 - 01:56 PM

There's The Wild Rover for that matter.


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: kendall
Date: 28 Dec 03 - 02:18 PM

Shingling the rum sellers roof.

Little Blossom


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 28 Dec 03 - 02:21 PM

Strictly speaking "temperance " shouldn't be the same as "anti-alcohol" - the word implies moderation.

"Maintaining a sensible alcohol level", as a health leaflet issued by the government here once said. I always try to do that myself.


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 28 Dec 03 - 02:22 PM

In fact I'm just off to top up now, because I think I might be running a bit low...


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 28 Dec 03 - 03:20 PM

Mine needs a bit of attending to as well.... what is a sensible level>?

LTS


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: Charley Noble
Date: 28 Dec 03 - 03:21 PM

For a contemporary take on temperance there's "Jocose Drunkard":Link to Mudcat Post

This song describes the 4 critical stages of drunking in vivid detail. It could use a more stirring chorus.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 28 Dec 03 - 03:33 PM

Happy Drunk, Sad Drunk, Fighting Drunk and Dead Drunk.

Mind, I've never been sure about thta as an unvarying sequence in that order. I think I've always tended to go straight from Happy Drunk to Sleepy Drunk.


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 28 Dec 03 - 04:21 PM

The stages, as recited at treatment are, I'm told:

Jolicose
Amorose (Amorouse)
Belicose
Lacrimose
Comotose

They are pretty much unvarying in order, and in reverse order durig the sober-up process; although it's easy enough to slip quickly through one or more stages and on to the next. Habitual driners usually learn to obtain their prefered state quite rapidly, ignoring or avoiding the others. Often called "PBL," or "Proper Buzz Level."

These are also the same stages observed in patients under anesthesia, and in reverse order in those coming out from anesthesia. Many a "recovery room" nurse has worn a black eye to attest to the "belicose" stage in recovery from the anesthetics.

John


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: Charley Noble
Date: 28 Dec 03 - 04:48 PM

The stages in "Jocose Drunkard" are for the record:

Jocose
Morose
Belicose
Comatose

One of our friends wants to add "Vomitose" but we vetoed that as rather crude.

Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 28 Dec 03 - 06:19 PM

I seem to miss out belicose and go straight for comatose.

Where does rosynose come in?

LTS


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: Snuffy
Date: 28 Dec 03 - 06:48 PM

If you're on Kipper songs, I prefer "Are You Dry"


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: Emma B
Date: 28 Dec 03 - 06:52 PM

Johnny my man/Farewell tae whiskey
A really lovely song. words in DT


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: kendall
Date: 28 Dec 03 - 07:29 PM

One tequila two tequila three tequila floor.


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: mack/misophist
Date: 28 Dec 03 - 11:09 PM

How about The Face on The Bar Room Floor?


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Dec 03 - 11:10 PM

What's the matter with whiskey? Al-co-hol! by the late Rosamond Henderson of Birmingham, Alabama (best known for writing 'Watermellon Time.'


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 29 Dec 03 - 12:24 AM

Songs for the Loyal Temperance Legion
Copyright 1928
National Woman's Christian Temperance Union
Evanston, Illinois

INDEX (by OCR scan)
America Is Free
Children's Prayer
Fight the Wrong
Good Night
Hear. the Brooklet
Kindergarten Song
Little Crusaders
Loving-Kindness To All
Make the World More Brlght
March of the Loyal Legion
Never Drink Whiskey or Brandy
Our Heroes
Our Secret
Our Wonderful House
Pledge Song
Prohibition Echo Song
Ring! Bells, Ring!
Round For Boys
Temperance Pilgrim's Marching Song
The Bubbling Spring
The Children's Jubilee
The Fairy in the Well
The Flag of Stars
The Triumph of Truth
The Water-Drinkers
The Windmill
This Is My Father's World
Total Abstinence Round
Victory Bells
We'll Turn Down Our Glasses
Whoever Heard of a Poor Old Horse?
Work and Play
World Campaigners
Who Bought the Beer?

(For a historical perspective.)

John


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: Jim McLean
Date: 29 Dec 03 - 04:29 AM

http://www.rampantscotland.com/poetry/blpoems_raggit.htm

The above site has a poem called The Drunkard's Ragged Wean, which my father used to sing to the tune 'Castles in the Air'. He sang it more as a lullaby, substituting our name, e.g. 'Jim McLean' for 'ragged wean'. The author wrote it as a strictly anti drink poem for the Temperence Society of his day (although I take McGrath's point re 'Temperence').


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: Gareth
Date: 29 Dec 03 - 06:08 AM

I can,t believe that no one has put forward :-

"Cigarettes and Whisky and Wild Wild Women".

Gareth


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Dec 03 - 07:51 AM

The move from 'temperance' to the extremist 'prohibition' seems similar to Islamic history.

As I understand it, Mohammed originally said that 'Muslims should avoid strong drink' without defining either avoid or strong. As the distillation of alcohol had only recently been invented, 'strong drink' may have been spirits, as opposed to wine and beer which had been drunk in the region for centuries. But at some stage, it has been translated into a total ban on alcohol.


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: kendall
Date: 29 Dec 03 - 08:08 AM

The development of wine goes back at least 5000 years.


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: DG&D Dave
Date: 29 Dec 03 - 10:22 AM

Vin Garbut's rendition of "Callum Moore" does it for me.
Also approx. half of the tracks on Strawhead's "Tiffin" album (the rest seem to be in favour of drinking, as I recall so were Greg, Mal and Chris).

Dave.

Rolling home, when we go ...


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: Mark Clark
Date: 29 Dec 03 - 08:59 PM

Friends used to do one about the Women's Christian Temperance Union (WCTU) years ago. I never heard it anywhere else so they may have written it. All I can remember after all this time is the chorus which was sung to the tune of the second half of the chorus of Wabash Cannonball.
We're against all forms of gamblin'
All sex and liquor too
And by our name we'll all be known
As the double-yew see tee yew.
If it isn't known anywhere else, maybe folks here can write new verses. Of course the song must ridicule temperance and the WCTU, not support it.

      - Mark


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: Charley Noble
Date: 29 Dec 03 - 09:36 PM

Dear me, an old temperence song is surfacing in my head and there's no way to stop it. It's from an 1850's publication called SONGS FOR THE LITTLE ONES AT HOME published by the American Tract Society:

I'm a little temperence boy six years old;
I love temperance better than gold;
I'll taste not, touch not, handle not the wine,
For every little boy like me the temperance pledge should sign!

I think there are more verses but maybe one is sufficent.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: GUEST,LadyJean
Date: 29 Dec 03 - 11:42 PM

Steeley Span recorded a song called "The Drunkard". The tune's wonderful, but I have trouble hitting the top notes.
Mother used to sing a version of "Father dear father", with the chorus,
          "Oh the doors swing in and the doors swing out!"
          "And some pass in, while others pass out!"
          "Your father I fear, is having a beer, behind those    swinging doors"


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: GUEST,Nigel
Date: 30 Dec 03 - 11:35 AM

1 Timothy 5
23   Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.


Nigel


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Dec 03 - 11:41 AM

I thyink the best one is by the beautiful south called
woman in the wall
and another by them called
old red eyes is back
both really good and I almost forgot the levellers
15years   this is a q2uality track also

Dylan


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: Artful Codger
Date: 22 Jan 06 - 10:53 PM

Stephen Foster's "O Comrades, Fill No Glass for Me" is a temperance song of sorts (long before the Temperance movement, however.) Written from personal experience. Great words and the tune has the feel of both a temperance-type hymn and a drinking song--especially if you liberally slur.

I remember a fun, little Temperance song ("A Social Drink"?) which begins "I used to like a social drink (So did I! So did I!)..."


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: GUEST,Allen in Oz
Date: 23 Jan 06 - 01:14 AM

Dorothy Parker

Two drinks I,m under the table

Three drinks I'm under the host

Ah dear Dorothy


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: Mr Happy
Date: 23 Jan 06 - 11:43 AM

Here's one I like:


ALCOHOL    [Ray Davies: The Kinks]


Here is a story about a sinner,
He used to be a winner who enjoyed a life of prominence and position,
But the pressures at the office and his socialite engagements,
And his selfish wife's fanatical ambition,
It turned him to the booze,
And he got mixed up with a floozy
And she led him to a life of indecision.
The floozy made him spend his dole
She left him lying on skid row
A drunken lag in some Salvation Army mission.
It's such a shame.

Oh demon alcohol,
Sad memories I cannot recall,
Who thought I would say,
Damn it all and blow it all,
Oh demon alcohol,
Memories I cannot recall,
Who thought I would fall a slave to demon alcohol.

Barley wine pink gin,
He'll drink anything,
Port, Pernod or tequila,
Rum, scotch, vodka on the rocks,
As long as all his troubles disappeared.
But he messed up his life and he beat up his wife,
And the floozyfs gone and found another sucker
She's gonna turn him on to drink
She's gonna lead him to the brink
And when his money's gone,
She'll leave him in the gutter,
It's such a shame.

Oh demon alcohol,
Sad memories I cannot recall,
Who thought I would fall,
A slave to demon alcohol.


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: GUEST,Joe_F
Date: 23 Jan 06 - 08:51 PM

"Please sell no more drink to my father"

--- Joe Fineman    joe_f@verizon.net

||: Hold your nose and vote the straight Democratic ticket. :||


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Subject: Lyr Add: GLORIOUS NEWS
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 02:39 AM

From
Morrison, D. H., and Myron W. Whitney. Treasury of Song Designed Expressly for the Home Circle. The Richest, Most Delightful Gems from Many Lands, Sacred, Patriotic, Comic, and Sentimental. N.p: Edgewood Pub. Co, 1892, page 245:

GLORIOUS NEWS
Luther Orlando Emerson, 1866

1. Oh, have you heard the glorious news that's round the town today?
Father has sign'd the pledge, and we are happy, light, and gay.
No more we dread his coming step, but spring to greet him home;
Mother has wip'd her tears away, and joy to us has come.

CHORUS: Oh, glorious news, glorious news, glorious news today!
Father has sign'd the pledge, and we are happy, light and gay,
Happy, happy, happy, light and gay, happy, happy, happy, light and gay.
Father has signed the pledge, and we are happy, light, and gay.

2. Many's the sorrowing time we've had, but such we'll have no more;
For father has driv'n the demon out, and lock'd, and barr'd the door.
No more we'll want for food and clothes, no more we'll mourn and sigh;
Our home shall be a home of peace, with ev'ry comfort nigh.

3. Now, thanks we raise to God on high, for this great blessing giv'n:
And earth to us henceforth shall be the entrance door to heav'n.
Sing loud and full, sing clear and free, let hill to valley call,
And bear upon the wings of wind, the glorious news to all.


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Subject: Lyr Add: WILLIE HAS SIGNED THE PLEDGE (McChesney)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 03:00 AM

From The Lester S. Levy Collection of Sheet Music:

WILLIE HAS SIGNED THE PLEDGE
M. H. McChesney. Chicago: Lyon & Healy, 1871.

1. Oh! May, have you heard the glorious news that mother was telling today?
Our Willie has signed the temperance pledge and put his bad habits away:
No more through the night we'll watch for him home, and shudder his footsteps to hear;
But gladly rejoice to shun him no more, or meet him with trembling fear.

CHORUS: Willie has signed the pledge. Willie has signed the pledge.
Happier days will come to us now, for Willie has signed the pledge.

2. A mothers' blest son, once more Willie stands, erect as an emblem of truth
So honest and manly, we're proud of him, May, so like the gay Will of our youth;
And May, mother's eyes, so tearful and sad, now light with the olden time joy;
Her faltering voice is musical now; an idol once more is our boy.

3. And you, my dear May, your blushes betray a feeling you never would show,
But come to my heart, for Willie reclaimed, a friend will again prove to you:
And oh! Let us hope the time is not far, when all this vile traffic shall end;
And man with the stamp of God on his brow, embrace not a fiend for his friend.


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: GUEST,doc.tom
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 05:35 AM

Can't say I approve of anti-alchohol songs per se, but there are some great temperance songs around. Then, of course, there's that great rarity, the anti-temperance song e.g. Poison Beer:
"Well, fancy then calling it poison,
Nasty names like poison beer.
With them I can't agree,
For I've drunk gallons and gallons of beer
And it never did poison me,
No! It never did poison me.
For I've drunk gallons and gallons of beer
And it never did poison me."
Happy drinking
Tom


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: Jack Campin
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 06:02 AM

> Stephen Foster's "O Comrades, Fill No Glass for Me" is a temperance
> song of sorts (long before the Temperance movement, however.)

The temperance movement goes back to the 1830s, though it didn't start creating its own songs until a bit later. The earliest ones I know were written by the Chartists in the 1840s; in its early days temperance was a secular movement with strong socialist links, and the church wouldn't have anything to do with it (in Scotland it depended on funding from brewers and distillers). Temperance songs didn't develop significant Christian content until the 1860s, when the church was getting on the bandwagon and trying to turn the movement to its own ends.

It would be interesting to know where Foster got the idea. I don't know anything about his politics.


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 11:11 AM

There's Drink to Me Only With Thine Eyes.

And I can't believe no one has cited the pig song.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 11:12 AM

I'm emphatically in favor of temperance. In moderation.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: GUEST,Volgadon
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 12:08 PM

John Barleycorn.


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: topical tom
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 12:21 PM

"Lips That Touch Liquor Shall Never Touch Mine


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: topical tom
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 12:25 PM

Sorry! Another clicky goof.The song title is at the end.


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: peregrina
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 01:29 PM

Gillian Welch: Tear my Stillhouse Down


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: GUEST,cStu
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 02:21 PM

My favourite is Blind Willie McTell's:

God Don't Like It (and I don't either)


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: Kara
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 02:31 PM

Check out, Darling Please don't call me when I'm sober on my myspace


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Subject: RE: Anti-alcohol, temperance songs
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 08 Jun 08 - 02:38 PM

ttom left off the beginning "<a href=":

Lips That Touch Liquor Shall Never Touch Mine

John


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