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BS: Huntley Guilty

The Shambles 19 Dec 03 - 02:49 AM
McGrath of Harlow 19 Dec 03 - 05:57 PM
The Shambles 19 Dec 03 - 06:38 PM
McGrath of Harlow 19 Dec 03 - 07:05 PM
Dave the Gnome 20 Dec 03 - 07:08 PM
Gareth 20 Dec 03 - 07:13 PM
YorkshireYankee 22 Dec 03 - 05:31 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Huntley Guilty
From: The Shambles
Date: 19 Dec 03 - 02:49 AM

The 'grooming' issue may be a little uncertain but it would seem to be well established that Maxine Carr did provide Huntly with previous alibi, did provide another in order to protect him in this case and most probably would have been prepared to lie in order to protect him again - had her evidence allowed him to 'get away' with the murder of these poor girls.

Remember too that she knew, taught and professed to like these two girls and that it was most probably this that led to the girls to trust Huntly enough to enter, what they probably thought of as Maxine Carr's house.


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Subject: RE: BS: Huntley Guilty
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Dec 03 - 05:57 PM

The sneakiest thing was the way that the police force in question tried to blame the Data Protection Act for their incompetance in not keeping records they should have, and making these available when Huntley applied for a job in a school.

They appear to have been pig-ignorant of what the Data Protection Act actually says about this kind of thing. Or perhaps just floundering around for any kind of excuse.

Once again, focussing attention on Maxine Carr is looking in the wrong direction.


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Subject: RE: BS: Huntley Guilty
From: The Shambles
Date: 19 Dec 03 - 06:38 PM

There are two aspects to the vetting issue but I agree that the Data Protection Act is less of a factor than the police not updating their records as they should be doing.

The thing about Maxine Carr is that the public are not so sure about her involvement/guilt/punishment as they about Huntley - who we are at least pretty sure will not ever be released for us to worry about.

I am not so sure that this is the wrong direction, for the reasons I have already given but I am pretty appalled at some of the press coverage about her. Probably because they sense this public uncertainty, elements of the press seem determined to stir-up public feeling toward her - which is bound to cause problems.


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Subject: RE: BS: Huntley Guilty
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Dec 03 - 07:05 PM

It's more fun circling round an individual who's been judged and punished, rather than concentrating on an institution that is in a position to make the same kind of mistakes again, unless it's changed. It's called "mobbing" when birds do it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Huntley Guilty
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 20 Dec 03 - 07:08 PM

I saw the newspaper banners today about Maxine Carr saying she had 'Got Off lightly'. I did not buy the papers unfortunately so cannot give an opinon.

Anyone care to enlighten me?

Cheers

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: Huntley Guilty
From: Gareth
Date: 20 Dec 03 - 07:13 PM

Tabloid headline - Enuf said ?

Gareth


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Subject: RE: BS: Huntley Guilty
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 22 Dec 03 - 05:31 PM

Van,

It has taken me a while to get round to it, but I finally did as you suggested and checked the Guardian of 18th Dec (did it online, as I don't subscribe to or read the Guardian regularly). Did a search, using the key words "Maxine Carr" and "grooming"; one article turned up.

Its third paragraph does indeed say "it was suspected she may have groomed the girls."

However, further down (~20th paragraph) it also says "But detectives have found no evidence that Carr groomed the girls or knew in advance Huntley had any plans to try to abduct a girl."

So perhaps (for whatever reason) you didn't get a chance to read the entire article? If you didn't, I can see how you might have reached the conclusion you did...

Cheers,

YY


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