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Chris Green 20 Oct 04 - 02:24 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: Chris Green
Date: 20 Oct 04 - 02:24 PM

He single-handed blows the theory of evolution out of the water merely by existing. Good news if you're a Creationist, I suppose. I suspect this may be how he got the right-wing fundamentalist vote! :)


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: Amos
Date: 20 Oct 04 - 11:20 AM

Summary of accomplishments:
http://www.monkeydyne.com/bushresume/resume.html


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: Peace
Date: 26 Sep 04 - 06:28 PM

Wrong answer, GUEST.


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Sep 04 - 10:16 AM

Huh?


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: Sam L
Date: 25 Sep 04 - 05:52 PM

Frehsd rucid ghdeb?


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: GUEST,pdc
Date: 07 Nov 03 - 04:19 PM

...but his ethics and morals do.


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Nov 03 - 02:35 PM

His socks don't sag.


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: Ebbie
Date: 07 Nov 03 - 02:23 PM

Oh, dear, oh, dear. Who to believe?? Bushites have never lied to us before.

From Reuters:

"The broad outline had to do with allowing as many as 2,000 U.S. agents, whether FBI (news - web sites) or scientists, to visit Iraq and verify the absence of weapons of mass destruction," he said, adding it came to include turning over Abdul Rahman Yasin, wanted in connection with the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.

"This was to be in addition to concessions on oil deals for the United States, agreeing not to obstruct any U.S. peace deal in the Middle East and to having free elections within two years," he said.

Hage, an insurance executive educated in the United States, described the proposal as it unfolded to personal acquaintances in the Defense Department with the aim of reaching Richard Perle, an influential Pentagon adviser whom he himself met.

"I had met Richard through acquaintances in the past, and thought he'd be one of the people to pass it on to," he said of his March meeting with Perle, who he said seemed willing to at least hear the offer.

"He said he would meet with them but he needed approval of higher-ups in Washington," Hage said. "It came back that there was no interest in this proposal."

The White House said on Thursday it exhausted all peaceful opportunities before invading Iraq on March 20, without clarifying whether President Bush had been aware of the offer relayed by Hage.


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: Peace
Date: 07 Nov 03 - 01:28 PM

I believed it; really I did.


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: Amergin
Date: 07 Nov 03 - 01:02 PM

thanks...glad you all liked it...every word of that story is true


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: InOBU
Date: 06 Nov 03 - 09:48 PM

Ah the question is what do we admire about him!? OhhhKayyy... let's see, no matter how big he screws up, nice folks with lots of cash cover up for him! Wouldn't we all like that to happen for us!?

Buttons would be pressed
rules would be broken,
strings would pulled
and magic words spoken,
invisable fingers would mold,
palaces of gold... (thanks Martin Carthy)

Cheers
Larry


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: GUEST,pdq
Date: 06 Nov 03 - 08:32 PM

Sure! But remember, the decoder ring is only good for translating Fred Miller's posts into English.


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: kendall
Date: 06 Nov 03 - 08:15 PM

Can I be one too? I have a hat.


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: GUEST,pdq
Date: 06 Nov 03 - 08:08 PM

You can get the badge, the hat and secret decoder ring, but you have to save up enough Wheaties boxtops.


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: Joybell
Date: 06 Nov 03 - 07:22 PM

He's made all of us Aussies sherrifs. Or is it deputies? I am still waiting for my badge and hat and horse. Also he makes a good buddy for our own Howard.


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: Peace
Date: 06 Nov 03 - 07:00 PM

OK, so let's deal with the rephrased question I shall here posit: Given that George W Bush is a nice guy, which of his qualities do you most admire?

And if I may be so bold, I would like to say that I like his, uh, . . . back to you later.


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: GUEST,guest from NW
Date: 06 Nov 03 - 05:00 PM

as you can see in the beginning post to this thread, i quoted kendall's earlier question and then asked to leave the bias out and just give us some qualities to admire in GWB due to my own curiousity about that. i quote my original post beginning with kendall's quoted query...

"Now, what should we admire about this loser (GW Bush) who never succeeded at anything in his life?"
that shows some personal bias from the questioner so let's leave that alone and just tell us the things to admire about GWB without referring to bill clinton, the democrats, liberals, hypocrisy, etc. is this possible, bushbuddies out there?"

pdq contradicts himself again, refusing to answer the "loaded" question (not the question i asked to begin the thread, by the way) after earlier claiming to have politely answered the question. so i guess there won't be any serious answers to my seemingly simple question. well, nevermind then...


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: GUEST,pdq
Date: 06 Nov 03 - 04:16 PM

Amos-it sounded like that type of question to me, also. Thanks for the support. People who don't like GW can certainly vote against him. Only twelve months to go.....


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: Amos
Date: 06 Nov 03 - 03:55 PM

'Sawright, PDQ -- I imagine you haven't stopped beating your spouse, either.   Right? 'Fess up, now!! :>))


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: GUEST,pdq
Date: 06 Nov 03 - 03:39 PM

I think the bobcat story was worth wading through this whole thread.

With all due respect, the origional question was "Now, what should we admire about this loser (GW Bush) who never succeeded at anything in his life?"

Again, that is such a loaded question that I will not give a direct answer to it. Ask me a question about biology and you have a very good chance of a direct answer. If you have a question about etymology please ask Don Firth, he is much better at that than I am.


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Nov 03 - 03:21 PM

sounds like pdq should go into politics himself. someone pose a question you can't/don't wish to answer? here's what to do...

1)"Kendall's question is more slander than question"//attack and delegitimize the question and questioner

2)" therefore, does not deserve a straight answer"//continue to attack the question

3)"It will not get one from me, so give up and stop asking."//challenge and admonish the questioner

4)"I also never claimed to have answered it."//deny actual printed words and obfuscate. this exchange began with posts on the thread entitled "what's worse than bush in 2004" and if you reread posts all from 11/3 at 8:17AM, 10:54AM, 1:31PM, and 1:50PM you;ll see that the question was asked,pdq again challenges kendall's veracity, claims to have answered his direct question (quoting from the post"i was trying to be polite and answer a direct question"). Now oppose previous statements in a bald-faced manner.

5)"If *your* question is "what is an admirable quality of George W. Bush"//make up your own question to answer with pre-digested talking point generalized campaign language like"he has attempted to be inclusive and has tried to bring people together."

6)"But, as someone said long ago, "it takes two to tango".//continue to refer to and denigrate opposition even when the question specifically asked for responses that were not relative to the opposition parties or people

so back to the original query "what should we admire about george bush?". i have removed partisan opinion from the question as stated in the original post and distilled it to its essence. well, waddaya t'ink?


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: Don Firth
Date: 06 Nov 03 - 01:56 PM

A little exercise during the day usually means you sleep a lot more soundly. The trick, of course, is to get the bobcat to agree that there are alternative solutions to the problem, but if someone doesn't at least try, it'll never happen.

Speaking of cute, fuzzy animals, I like cocker spaniels. They are the very epitome of loyalty, even in the most trying of circumstances, and often to the least deserving (although this might be a questionable virtue). But one does kind of wonder what Laura might mutter to herself from time to time.

By the way, if something is written, it is libel, not slander. Slander is spoken rather than written. The best defense against charges of libel or slander is for the writer or speaker to show that what he has written or said is true. If it's true, it's not libel, no matter how much you may not like it.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: Ebbie
Date: 06 Nov 03 - 01:53 PM

Bushie is a unifier, all right. It's what he said from the start. Was going to reach across the aisle, he said. I couldn't believe my perceptions when he kept saying that- and immediately started attacking the democrats. It was like he thought he could say anything but do the opposite and no one would hold him accountable. And he hasn't gotten any better. The bi-partisan bone is missing from his body.


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: Amos
Date: 06 Nov 03 - 01:40 PM

Wow -- you got him wound up and running! Nice story, there, Nathan.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: Amergin
Date: 06 Nov 03 - 01:23 PM

I've done that kendall...

I was staying at my cousin's place over in Plains, Montana.. and I had a wool blanket outside...cause i wanted to sleep underneath the stars...and it was a nice coolish summer night...and after having wrestling matches with the mosquitos I settled down to have me a sleep...Well, I got up in the middle of the night to have a leak and walked into the bushes a bit...and did my business...

well i go back to my blanket and there he was...the biggest the meanest bobcat that I have ever laid my eyes on...curled right up on my blanket. Well like I said this bastard was huge...he made Babe the blue ox look like a hairless toy poodle with horns...

But you know? I couldn't stand seeing this thing sleeping on MY blanket....not when I was needing it...so I marched right up to him and jumped upon his sleeping form...boy you should have heard that racket...the screeches and the yowls and the roars were loud enough to shake the entire town of Plains to the very foundations....so loud the hills came tumbling down into the Clark Fork River...and a once hilly countryside is now a marshy swamp....but anyways me and that cat must have been going at for four hours before we decided to take a breather...I had a few chuncks bitten out of me...some bald patches on my head...and a few other odds and ends...and that bobcat had a few chunks bitten out of him...and several missing tufts of hair throughout his body...a few of its sharp teeth were missing as well...

My gramma comes out of her trailer and tends to our bleeding wounds...and feeds and waters us....and then we go on for round two...biting and scratching and clawing and yowling, knocking the trees over...knocking over fences and boulders and whats left of the town of Plains...this goes on for another four hours or so....til we had to stop and rest some more...i had a couple of strands of hair on my body left...and a few more chunks of meat missing...the cat was missing a couple of claws that had been bitten off.....half of it's tail missing...an ear gone...and like me...the cat was almost completely hairless by this time...well...I looked at the cat...and then looked down at me...and just started chuckling...the cat looked at me funny for a bit and then started laughing too...I said you know this is ridiculous...we can BOTH share that blanket...the bobcat nodded it's head and we went down to the blanket (or what was left of it by this time) and slept....I tell you that was the best sleep I have ever gotten...


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: kendall
Date: 06 Nov 03 - 08:56 AM

Me blow a gasket? No way!

Trying to unify Iraq is like trying to pull a bobcat off a wool blanket.


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: Amos
Date: 05 Nov 03 - 10:39 PM

Yes, that's true -- by tracking down and arresting the troublesome parts. It is important that Iraq be unified, and force works as well as anything else he's got.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: Amergin
Date: 05 Nov 03 - 10:28 PM

you mean unify Iraq with the oil companies...


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: GUEST,pdq
Date: 05 Nov 03 - 10:26 PM

Kendall- don't blow a gasket. Everybody in Mudcat loves 'ya. You know that. The origional postor was determined to get my opinion and he eventually got it. As you wisely said:
          "Be careful what you wish for, you may get it".


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: Peace
Date: 05 Nov 03 - 10:11 PM

He's tryin' to unify Iraq.


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: Amos
Date: 05 Nov 03 - 10:10 PM

Inclusive? The United States has been more polarized since Junior got selected than it was (if my memory serves) through all the decade before. I grant you the nation was badly rattled by the 9-11-01 attacks but they could well have served as a unifying force rather than a jingoistic one. There's a world of difference.

Bush's campaigns have caused divisions over issues of wealth, issues of privilege, issues of gender, race and Gawd knows what all. I can't find any exam[pes of his seeking to unify. Can you offer some?

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: GUEST,pdc
Date: 05 Nov 03 - 10:07 PM

Given the thread title, I can't believe it went on this long...


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: kendall
Date: 05 Nov 03 - 09:58 PM

I ask for an opinon, I get accused of slander.

Slander is illegal. It is a specific legal term, just like murder. Abortion is not murder under the law. Giving an opinion of G. Bush is also not slander. Your disapproval is not a reason to stifle opinions. That was what they did in Russia, still do in dozens of countries such as China. That the kind of place you want to live in?
You like what that gang in Washington is doing? Will you still like it when the democrats come back and do it their way?
Be careful what you wish for, you may get it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Nov 03 - 09:47 PM

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.......

Inclusive?

Just say *no*...

Like exactly who is included in his inclusiveness? The right winged war mongers. The rich folks, who always found ways to get abortions, who say "screw you" to everyone else. The Enrons, the Hallburtons, the Lockheed-Martins, the Harkin Energy's, the Christain Right who never made it to the New *friggin'* Testament, the Carl Roves, the Richard Pearl's, the Por-Choice folks who stole democracy?

Ahhhhh, what am I missin' here other than the complete derailment of Tom Jefferson's experienment? This ain't about gettin friggin' laid. It's about fascisim. Don't like the word then find yerseff another dictator to goose step behind....

That's the way it is...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: GUEST,pdq
Date: 05 Nov 03 - 09:33 PM

Kendall's question is more slander than question and, therefore, does not deserve a straight answer. It will not get one from me, so give up and stop asking. I also never claimed to have answered it. If *your* question is "what is an admirable quality of George W. Bush", I will say that he has attempted to be inclusive and has tried to bring people together. But, as someone said long ago, "it takes two to tango".


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: GUEST,guest from NW
Date: 05 Nov 03 - 08:57 PM

i didn't define "loser" pdq. that question was quoted from a post by kendall on the thread "what's worse than bush in 2004". that's the thread where you posted a claim that you answered a direct question from a post by kendall, when in fact that was the only direct question he posed and you did not attempt to answer it. i commented on that in a later post and you continued on never answering this direct question. if you get a break from finding me some capital letters maybe you could tell us about bush's admirable qualities (this is the direct question that this thread concerns) rather than commenting on his campaign results.


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Nov 03 - 06:52 PM

Don:

Whatz ya' got against "cocker spaniels"...

Deda:

Yeah, he may not stab himself in the cheek with a fork while eating, but keep the pretzels out of reach...

L.H.

Stick with the spirtuality of rocks which you know more about than anyone round this joint, but keep away from baseball... Our boy was purdy much given the team by his daddy and some of his daddies friends and then sold it fir whatever anyone would offer... In some circles that's smacks of money launderin'. *But*, no one got blown up, unlike his recent scrwups, so I reckon you gotta give the boy some credit fir that...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: Greg F.
Date: 05 Nov 03 - 06:51 PM

That's no way to talk about cocker spaniels, Don! For shame!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Nov 03 - 05:42 PM

Yep, Hilary is as sharp as a tack...

Hey, NW, how about the one I volunteered about baseball? Doesn't that count? The word for Teribus' posts is not "lengthy" but "interminable" if you ask me. :-)

Perhaps he has found gainful employment or something and no longer has the time to type 5,000 word essays on Mudcat.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: Don Firth
Date: 05 Nov 03 - 03:20 PM

He must have some redeeming features, because Laura seems like a nice lady (quiet, submissive, doesn't stand out much), and when he's giving a speech, she always sits there looking at him adoringly.

Of course, she may have the brain of a cocker spaniel. . . .

Don Firth
Now Hilary, on the other hand, has the brain of a potentially very good president. . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: Peace
Date: 05 Nov 03 - 02:57 PM

pdq: Absolutely!


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: GUEST,pdq
Date: 05 Nov 03 - 02:09 PM

Good for you. The best part about venting on an internet site is that no one gets hurt!


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: Peace
Date: 05 Nov 03 - 01:44 PM

I HAVE GOT ONE!
I HAVE GOT ONE!
I HAVE GOT ONE!
I HAVE GOT ONE!
I HAVE GOT ONE!
I HAVE GOT ONE!
I HAVE GOT ONE!
I HAVE GOT ONE!

Ah, crap, I forge---no, got it again: His nose hairs don't show.

Thanks for waiting. I feel better, now.


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: GUEST,pdq
Date: 05 Nov 03 - 01:13 PM

Everywhere Bush campaigns people win. Every where Clinton campaigns people lose. Maybe ol' "NW" needs to revise the definition of "loser".


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: Amos
Date: 05 Nov 03 - 11:16 AM

He looks almost as good as a real pilot in that flight uniform. WOnder if he's still wearing it to bed...

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: GUEST,guest from NW
Date: 05 Nov 03 - 12:43 AM

use a few for your name if you've got extras pdq.


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: LadyJean
Date: 05 Nov 03 - 12:42 AM

He doesn't swagger around in a uniform ALL the time. (Of course once is rather more than enough.)


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: GUEST,pdq
Date: 04 Nov 03 - 10:23 PM

No. But there are just enough of us to buy you some capital letters if we pool our resources.


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: GUEST,guest from NW
Date: 04 Nov 03 - 10:16 PM

can't any of the bushbuddies among the mudcatters come up with one admirable quality of this guy that is not relative to bill clinton, democrats, liberals, etc.? i recall lengthy posts during rthe run-up to the war by teribus, plenty of "me too!!" from dougr, many other defenders of this mans policies and procedures. surely there must be one among you to give us an objectivly quantifiable quality about him that we can all admire. well?


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Subject: RE: BS: Admirable Qualities of GWBush
From: kendall
Date: 04 Nov 03 - 10:04 PM

Good one, McGrath!


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