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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 02 Sep 03 - 10:53 PM

Where's Willie Nelson? Bob Dylan?


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: GUEST,cheyenne medders
Date: 02 Sep 03 - 10:30 PM

derek trucks should be at least #2
django reinhardt should be in the top 10
jeff tweedy should be listed
chet atkins is top 5
duane should remain around the top
BB King and Eric Clapton don't belong on this list
Where is Trey Anastasio?
Neil Young belongs in the top third
Ry Cooder could move up a notch or four

The rolling stone list is a terrible list aimed to please everyone


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: alanabit
Date: 02 Sep 03 - 05:38 PM

You are right Tunesmith. At the end of the day it all comes down to what you want the musician to do with the bleeding thing. Not a bad guitarist has been mentioned on this thread. It is not the inclusion ofnames that causes problems - but the exclusion.


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: GUEST,Herrington Corpustle
Date: 02 Sep 03 - 05:22 PM

Has anyone encountered Kaki King from (I think) New York city. I saw her at Winnipeg folk fest and she is well worth checking out. On technique at least she deserves to be in the top one hundred IMHO, despite being a far from well known name.

Other than that, Ian Carr and Ian Stephenson from England both deserve a placing representing 'our' music and Martin Carthy wouldn't have been a bad choice either.-


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: GUEST,Tunesmith
Date: 02 Sep 03 - 04:50 PM

As always, such lists are a compromise. I remember telling Nick Jones that I thought he was a great guitarists, but he wouldn't have it. " If you call me great," he said, " what are you going to call Django".I know where Nick was coming from, but could Django have created the great guitar acompanyingments that Nick produced? Take another case: Bert Jansch -v-Davy Graham. Now I love Bert and I think he was so good way back when, but he is not a complete guitarist like Davy. I guess it's horses for courses.


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: GUEST,Arkie
Date: 02 Sep 03 - 04:05 PM

The Rolling Stone List may have included a "who's who" of rock guitar but the compiler apparently knew very little or cared very little about other guitar styles. Merle Travis and Chet Atkins were very influential in country music and Travis also had some effect on guitarists in Great Britain as well as the United States. Travis' son, Thom Bresh, is an incredible guitarist by almost any standard. Travis, Atkins, and Bresh can bring almost any piece of music alive with a solo guitar. Nothing else is needed. Other fine guitar players deserving mention are Eddy Adcock, Jerry Reed, Comer Mullins, and Eddy Pennington. While Mullins and Pennington are not well known outside the Thumbpicker guitar circles, both are certainly masters of the instrument. Adcock is well known in bluegrass circles and Reed plays with a wreckless abandon in a style of his own.


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: C-flat
Date: 02 Sep 03 - 03:44 PM

I think we could make a terrific "Top 100 list" from all these ommissions! I enjoy listening to, and playing(attempting) many different styles and to try and rate them into some sort of order is impossible.

I did intend to post a thread in memory of Stevie Ray Vaughan, the great bluesman, who died on August 27th, 13 years ago, but as that date coincided with my birthday I got sidetracked and forgot!
Maybe next year. (if it doesn't clash with my birthday)


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: M.Ted
Date: 02 Sep 03 - 01:02 PM

I never like saying"This great guy blow that great guy away"--but I do think Steve Vai is an incredible guitarist--one of his less well known talents: notating music for Frank Zappa, who said that Steve was the best of anyone ever at accurately notating those frenetic Zappa melodic/rhythmic phrases--


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: Nerd
Date: 02 Sep 03 - 12:25 PM

Frank, we both mentioned Pierre Bensusan, but your post reminded me of Davy Graham, who really developed DADGAD in London in the 60s. Few guitarists in UK folk were as influential as he was, as an early influence on Renbourn, Jansch, Carthy et al.


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: GUEST,Li'l Aussie Bleeder.
Date: 02 Sep 03 - 10:33 AM

To Candyman
That's Dr Washington !!! Jackie Washington was awarded an honarary doctorate of letters from Hamiltons' Mc Master University, just this year.

I'd like to mention Amos Garrett for the list.
LAB


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: GUEST,Strollin' Johnny
Date: 02 Sep 03 - 08:26 AM

Has anyone mentioned James Burton? 'Hello Mary Lou' wouldn't be half the record without James' guitar. Also played with (amongst lots of others) Emmylou's Hot Band and, of course, Elvis in the '70s.


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 02 Sep 03 - 05:46 AM

Murray - Albert Lee was interested in the guitar at school (The Roan School, Greenwich). I can remember that when we had to paint murals in the art class, he did an excellent one of Elvis with Guitar. He was playng lead guitar in a group at school and I can remember playing several gigs with him (I played electric bass) - a couple when he stood in for the lead of the band I usually played with, and one in a scratch band for a school charity event. He was brilliant then - could play anything straight off - he didn't need to copy records as we all did - his lead guitar parts were much better than the records !

I can remember one master at the school telling him to concentrate on his school work, because playing the guitar wouldn't earn him a living - how wrong can you get !


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: musicmick
Date: 02 Sep 03 - 02:29 AM

Mr. Firth is correct. It was Millard Thomas.
May I add a lesser known name to the3 list. John Pilla was the lead guitarist for Eric Anderson and Arlo Guthrie. He was a favorite partner of Doc Watson's. (He was a dear friend who passed too soon).


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: GUEST,pdq
Date: 01 Sep 03 - 11:34 PM

Charlie Christian or Barney Kessell on list? Didn't see 'um. Steve Goodman probably out-played Paul Simon, but that type of guitatr work is not going to garner votes for "best ever", although composing a neat piece to accompany an individual song is a true art.


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: Benjamin
Date: 30 Aug 03 - 02:38 PM

Greycap, I caught Norman Blake earlier in this thread.
Brownie McGhee.
D'Gary, the Madagascarian Phenom.
I've always thought that Paul Simon was a very under rated guitarist.


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: Don Firth
Date: 30 Aug 03 - 12:48 PM

Uh . . . not to nit-pick, but I think you'll find that it was Millard Thomas, not Millard Lampbell who was Harry Belafonte's main guitar accompanist early on. Ray Boguslav also accompanied Belafonte for awhile.

Dick Rosmini and I crossed paths a couple of times, once when he was accompanying Bob Gibson and a few years later when he was accompanying Barbara Dane. He's one helluva guitarist. He and Gibson were in Seattle for a couple of weeks, and we had several chances to get together and jam. After the Barbara Dane concert, she, Rosmini, and a whole bunch of Seattle singers got together. She opened for Bob Newhart, and only sang about five songs, so she was rearing to go. Somebody offered their living room and we had a big songfest that went well into the wee small hours of the morning. The whole mob, Barbara, Dick, and all, went out for breakfast afterward. I learned a couple of songs from Barbara.   

Good times!

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 30 Aug 03 - 12:37 PM

I'd second John Martyn. I'd also like to mention Dick Gaughan's instrumental work on both electric and acoustic guitar. Also, for rock guitarists, Tim Renwick was very good. I suspect a lot of the guitarists that we folkies really respect are not on Rolling Stone's radar.


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Aug 03 - 12:05 PM

1.TONY RICE-My opinion the best Acoustic Guitarist ever. No Acoustic/ Electric crap. But straight ahead Acoustic. And Tone and Smoothness to die for.

2.Steve Vai- IM sorry, but Steve is so far ahead of Jimi Hendrix it is pathetic. Forget the hype and just listen to the solos and the speed and unbelievable technique.

3. Grady Martin-The guy who played guitar on Marty Robbins, "El Paso"

4.Paco De Lucia- Played on Bryan Adams- Have You ever really loved a woman?

5. George Benson- Simply Amazing

6.Bryan Sutton- Listen to his break on RawHide off of Ricky Skaggs CD "Bluegrass Rules" Even if You hate Bluegrass, just give it a listen.And be honest with Yourself about how great some of these hot shot players are, Sutton will bring them back to reality. Period!!!!


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: Greycap
Date: 30 Aug 03 - 09:20 AM

Norman Blake got missed out again,Bryan Sutton.


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: John Robinson (aka Cittern)
Date: 30 Aug 03 - 04:20 AM

If you are into guitarists, go out of your way to see/hear Woody Mann.

Best regards
John Robinson
http://www.JulieEllison.co.uk


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: fat B****rd
Date: 30 Aug 03 - 04:12 AM

Scotty Moore, LEADBELLY, Chuck Berry, Elliot Randall if only for "Reelin' In The Years"..................


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: Margret RoadKnight
Date: 30 Aug 03 - 01:59 AM

To treble the Australian content, add
Chris Finnen and
Bruce Mathiske


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: Margret RoadKnight
Date: 30 Aug 03 - 01:57 AM

John Martyn
Bruce Langhorne, accompanist extraordinaire


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: GUEST,pdq
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 11:51 PM

It took 60 posts to get to my all-time hero Dave Van Ronk! More conspicuous absentees are Dan Crary, Joe Maphis and Arthur "Guitar Boogie" Smith. Studio work by Glen Campbell deserves a mention, even if people question his Pop attitude in his personal music. Who did the guitar on Marty Robbins "El Paso"?
Great stuff. Anyone heard Rich O'Brien? Martin Taylor? Frank Vignola...................


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: musicmick
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 11:46 PM

Frank, I'm glad that you liked Burl Ives's guitar playing because I did, too. But that wasn't himself at all. His usual accompanyist was Millard Lampbell, who later worked with Belafonte. Lampbell's guitar was best displayed on the Burl Ives recording of "Golden Vanity". Back in those days, many wonderful singers used professional accompanyists. Those unsung heros were some of the finest and most tasteful artists. I'm sure you remember Ray Bogislav (who worked with Theo Bikel), John Stauber (Leon Bibb), Dick Weissman (Judy Roderick), Paul Prestopino (Judy Collins and the Chad Mitchell Trio) and Dick Rosmini (who played for everyone else). Some backups achieved fame, of course.(David Bromberg comes to mind). Some were famous first. (Fred Hellerman was a Weaver long before he met Joan Baez). But so many great ones sat on the side of the stage in proportional obscurity.
I didn't mean to suggest that Joni Mitchell is less than superbly talented as a singer, composer and creative artist but unless she has gotten a hell of a lot better on her instrument recently, I find her inclusion on any list of great guitarists akin to adding Bill Clinton's name to the ranks of saxophone immortals.


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: simon-pierre
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 11:37 PM

Gary Davis? Skip James? Big Bill Broonzy? Dave Van Ronk? Kelly joe Phelps?

Or Tim Sparks?

Now, it's just to mention some of my favorites, there's to many holes in this list. What a lack of musical culture, it's unbelievable.


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 10:55 PM

Rolling Stone makes a stupid subjective judgement from a narrow perspective.


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: GUEST,Frankham
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 10:10 PM

Groucho Marx played the guitar. He didn't get nominated.

Luis Milan but he played the guitar before they called it a guitar. They called it a Viheula.

Frank Hamilton


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: kendall
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 10:05 PM

Lenny Breau. Chet Atkins once said, "Lenny Breau has forgotten more about the guitar than I ever knew."


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: Midchuck
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 09:43 PM

Actually, Guest PDQ, Clarence White is on the list - #41. He's the only one of the great flatpickers who is. But they refer to him as "of the Byrds." I wonder if they even realized that he did fool around with an acoustic guitar once in a while.

Peter.


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 08:52 PM

Small correction to Willie-O's post: The Allman Brothers Band doesn't have three guitarists on the list, it has four. Derek Trucks is #81.

Nice to see John Fahey ranked so highly on such a rock-heavy list, but that sorta makes Leo Kottke's absence even more peculiar.

Bruce


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: GUEST,pdq
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 08:51 PM

More people who should be on some guitar player list are country greats Sam McGee, "Slim" Bryant, "Zeke" Campbell, Don Reno, and Jimmy Bryant. Studio and Rock and folk great David Bromberg is conspicuouly missing, as is Clarence White!


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: jaze
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 07:16 PM

Joni Mitchell a non-guitarist?? You can't be serious.


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 06:27 PM

Interesting endorsements of Lukather and Tedesco there, Ted. I used to read Tommy Tedesco's diary in "Guitar Player" every month, fascinating stuff.

I must try to hear some more of Steve Lukather. My ex's daughter was Toto-obsessed, and used to fixate on "Luke" as she called him. It kind of spooked me, but there is no question he is a huge talent.

One more name that should have been on the list, in the first five, is Blind Blake.

Murray


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: Benjamin
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 04:45 PM

M.Ted, T-Bone Walker is at number 47 on that list.
And no one's mentioned Norman Blake yet!


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: M.Ted
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 03:57 PM

Fred"Sonic" Smith and Wayne Kramer but no Dick Wagner? Hmmm.

Even if it was just rock guitarists, where is someone like T-Bone Walker, who is probably the most copied electric guitarist,with Bo Diddly right up close to him?

Mostly though, this list leaves off the studio guys like Tommy Tedesco and Steve Lukather who really created and played a lot of those memorable licks that we have been encouraged to believe came from some of the guys on this list--

And,thanks, Murray, where was Tony McManus?


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: GUEST,pdq
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 02:45 PM

Went over list again. No Tony Rice?

Actually, the best guitarist working now, in the US, is David Grier. That is one man's opinon.


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: Benjamin
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 02:26 PM

If you want to bring up classical guitarists- David Russell, Roland Dyens, Ana Vidovic, Manuel Barrueco, Scott Tenant, Jorge Morel, Kaz. Yamashita and Fred Hand all deserve to be there. Many others including Martha Masters, Antonio Lopez, and Frederic Zigante at least deserve to be considered.
As for popular guitarists they missed- Phil Keaggy, Prince (shut up Raed!!!!)


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: Don Firth
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 01:46 PM

Pat Metheny? How about Pepe Romero, Eduardo Fernandez, Julian Bream, John Williams, Carlos Montoya, Mario Escudero, Sabicas? Maybelle Carter?

I think that the people who make up these lists don't get out much.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: Candyman(inactive)
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 01:06 PM

In terms of rhythm and chording, three of the all-time best were/are Freddie Green, Ted Bogan and Jackie Washington (the JW in Canada, not the Boston folkie of the '60s).


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: GUEST,pdq
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 12:57 PM

I saw Freddie King live and he outplayed all the various Kings, ever B.B. Joan Jett but no Steve Morse?? The list as presented needs a mojor overhaul.


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: GUEST,SJ
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 12:41 PM

Emily Slade is a very hot guitarist. you should hear her new album 'Fretless' listen to the title track. WWWWWWWWWWooooooWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: GUEST,pdq
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 12:33 PM

Eldon Shamblin was probably the best rhythm guitarist ever, and played in a style invented by Karl Kress, a true genuis. Genuis also applies to Lonnie Johnson.

A list of Rock players without Randy California???


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: GUEST,Frankham
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 11:27 AM

One of my favorite guitarists was Burl Ives because he never let his guitar get in the way of a good song.

Josh White because he integrated his playing so well that you couldn't separate his singing from his playing.




Eddie Lang who was the most influential accoustic jazz guitarist. Django built much of his style on his (Django-Grapelli) (Lang-Venuti)

For jazz accoustic style: Oscar Aleman needs a mention.

Tal Farlow...electric jazz needs a mention.
Jim Hall, Barney Kessel, Joe Pass


Frank Vignola for accoustic jazz never made the list.   


Did Julian Bream make the list?

As for electric jazz buffs, you don't have to look much forward to a an unknown (xcept in elec. jazz circles) Ted Greene.

Did Hank Garland or Eldon Shamblin make the list?

For all of these there must be a hundred more who didn't make the list.

Rolling Stone is concerned with rock and popularity in that genre.
THe whole idea of 100 best is a "straw man".

Frank Hamilton










Did Pierre Bensusan get mentioned for DADGAD?


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: Bob Hitchcock
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 11:11 AM

Any list of guitarists which limits itself to 100 is bound to be incomplete. I agree that those on the list are good players and in some way deserve to be there, but of course there are many other great players missing, my additions would include:-

Hank Marvin
Wes Montgomery
Tal Farlow
Freddy Green
etc, etc,

Maybe there should be a Top 10,000 list so we could make most of us happy.


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: Candyman(inactive)
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 11:00 AM

relection

Somebody stole the f from reflection.


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 10:59 AM

Y'all need to make your own list.


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: Candyman(inactive)
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 10:58 AM

How about Lester Flatt? After all, flatt picking is named after him.

Seriously, though, folks. When a list like this comes out, you have to consider where it's coming from. Rolling Stone is a narrow rock and pop magazine. Most of the great guitarists left-off their list, Doc Watson, Martin Carthy, Segovia, Joe Pass, and about a thousand more, aren't even, or are barely, on their radar.

You gotta realize that a list like that in Rolling Stone is no more relevant than the many Best Folksinger, Best Female Voice, etc. lists that we see on Mudcat. It's all a very subjective relection of who is compiling the list. In Rolling Stone, most of the choices will reflect the major record labels that advertoise heavily in the magazine.


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: The O'Meara
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 10:44 AM

Duane Eddy.


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Subject: RE: Top 100 Guitarists of All Time
From: Amos
Date: 29 Aug 03 - 10:40 AM

Fred Hellerman should be on it as well -- they missed so many boats it's ridiculous!

A


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