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BS: another no smoking thread

Morticia 19 Aug 03 - 06:36 PM
harvey andrews 19 Aug 03 - 06:47 PM
Bill D 19 Aug 03 - 06:51 PM
McGrath of Harlow 19 Aug 03 - 06:51 PM
Bill D 19 Aug 03 - 06:55 PM
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Subject: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Morticia
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 06:36 PM

Need some help here,guys.I've been a non-smoker for nearly ten days ( and I've spent all my money on whisky and beer.....no, sorry, got carried away by a possible parody there for a minute). Anyways, any little tricks or tips to get me over the next few weeks , which I believe are the worst? I keep telling myself that I can satisfy the craving in about 30 seconds after which I will promptly wonder what the hell the fuss was all about....plus have to admit to people that I failed and that's kept me going so far but any other hints would be recieved gratefully.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: harvey andrews
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 06:47 PM

Morticia...well done..you've beaten the craving. The bodily addiction to nicotine is about 48 hours, after which you've flushed it from your body. What you're dealing with now is the mental addiction...when the phone rings....when you have a drink...after a meal...after lovemaking. these are all mental triggers for a ciggie.
What you have to do is face these trigger moments head on and deal with each one as it arises. Answer the phone and don't light up...have a drink and don't light up etc, and suddenly you realise that the ciggie added nothing to drinking. eating , making love, etc. Then you've beaten it forever.
That's how I did it 31 years ago.
My father did it by seeing his brother die of lung cancer. He came home from the hospital, took out his packet of fags and threw them in the fire. never bothered him again.
Whatever it takes...it's worth it.
"Break a leg"...as we say in show business!


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Bill D
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 06:51 PM

I knew a man once who quit...he said he got throught the worst of it by sucking on hard candies and such...satisfied 'just' enough of the oral cravings to allow him to make it the easier stages.

Everyone is different, Morty...some do it by imagining pictures of their lungs...some do it for love...some with an eye to the budget. But some need nicotine patches and a will of iron! Try it all, and the BEST of luck!


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 06:51 PM

Some people seem to find a lot more difficulty in this than others. I was lucky, just gave it up one day, and it wasn't at all a big deal. And I was talking the other day to my father-in law - smoked for over 50 years, than just gave it up. (That was many years ago - he's 92 now and pretty spry.)

I don't think it's will power or lack of willpower, I'm sure there's some biological or sociological reason. But one thing that probably doesn't help is that very often people have been led to assume that it's going to be terribly difficult. Well, it might be, but quite possibly it won't be.

One thing that might help - tell yourself you're giving it up for a fixed period, to prove you can. Six weeks or so. (Lent comes in handy that way.) And after six weeks you could well not feel inclined to go back to it anyway. Especially when you think of the extra drinks you have been able to buy with the money...And how much better your breath smells...


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Bill D
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 06:55 PM

(oh..I am told that avoiding others who are smoking can be crucial..(as much as possible)...it is a very 'social' thing


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 07:06 PM

Don't let repeated past failures be a drag on your motivation. Even if you quit for months and then lapse. Your time WILL come. Whether its easy or hard is variable even as to the same person, depending on the time/setting. You need to construct the appropriate mental focus that works for you, so others' advice may help, but if it doesn't, devise a new strategy and try again.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 07:17 PM

As a non-smoker married to a smoker, I can tell you that imagining how much MORE your honey will want to prolong those non-smoke-tasting kisses might be a helpful thing to do...if I remember right he doesn't smoke? Of course, you two are still in the ahem pre-honeymoon phase, so it probably doesn't matter....kisses abound albeit long distance!**bg**

Good for you and that is good advice...if you fall off one day, start anew the next, don't use it for an "oh, well, what the hell, might as well" excuse. My daughter stopped the minute she knew she was pregnant and has no plans to start again. My son has quit several times and continues to struggle with it.

Try eating more akaline foods, rather than acidic. I'll send you a list from my acupuncturist if you'd like. He says most of us have too much acid in our systems, from stress, worry, illness, trauma, both physical and emotional, smoking, and eating. Most of those things cause our stomachs to create more acid, so it becomes a vicious cycle. Anyway, it is helping me with a bunch of stuff and I would expect it would help with the toxins of smoking which help to create the cravings, as well as the acid does.

What's that old Kingston Trio song...Allan will know it...something about "kisses sweeter than wine..." **bg**

luvyakat


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Janie
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 07:29 PM

Terri,

You won't believe this but I stopped 8 days ago, so I am in the same boat. I have tried many times to quit--gone through 2 expensive programs, tried the patch, gum, etc. and have never had even 8 days success before.

I am now recovering from my second bout with pneumonia in 6 months and hope I am finally getting the message that at 51, I AM OUT OF TIME!!!! While I was so very sick I could not have enhaled if I had had the energy to. Now that my lungs are clearing, I am finding the urges more frequent and more tempting. So far, here is what is working for me.

1. Drinking a large glass of water when the craving is strong.
2. Telling myself how grateful I am to be a non-smoker until the urge fades some.
3. Remembering that when I have quit for 3 or 4 days in the past, those first puffs were actually not satisfying--It took half a pack to get the nicotine built up enough to actually be satisfying.
4. Cutting WAY back on caffeine. (I gave up drinking many years ago,
but if I still drank, I would probably be cutting way back on that.
5. Focusing on feeling pleased about being a non-smoker.
6. Thinking about how crappy I feel slipping out back doors to smoke a cigarette, and how embarrassed I am when people see me.

I'm pulling for you and me both.

Janie


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Amos
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 07:36 PM

Ah Morty, welcome to the club and well done!! I am SOOO proud of ya!!!!

For me, the thing to remember is that you only say no to one cigarette. The one you temporarily desire just at the moment.

But if you say yes, you're buying a trainload.

I found it really helped to get some nicotine lozenges (Commit, they're called) and suck half of one when it got really bad. After a few months of that the only thing that was left to dowas walk away from the nicotine itself. That was rough for me, but a lot less rough than quitting the whole package at once!!

All I can say is, from my experience, you DO come though. Therefore, do NOT turn back!! Because when you pop out the other end of that tunnel, it is all worth while!!

Love ya,


A


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Sorcha
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 07:40 PM

I'm tracing this one.............


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Amos
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 08:09 PM

Well, tell ya what -- Janie and Morty, stay on the wagon, and I'll give you both a big kiss when I see ya!! :>) Nothing like odor-free osculation to perk one up in the morning!!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 08:38 PM

Well, the tricks that others have shared are all good and I suggest using whateven seems natural to you.

When I quit 17 years ago I just sat down, got righteously indignant on the subject. "I AM NOT A SMOKER!" I would tell myself over and over and over. (Sorry to yell...) That's what it finally toof after several attempts to guit over a 10 year period. One even lasting 4 years!!! But you just have to get mad at yourself, at cigarettes and advertising men who tell you just how cool it it to smoke. And you have to get mad at the tobacco industry for spiking their products with addictive additives.... Just get mad. Stay mad... I mean, really FRIGGIN' MAD!!! (Sorry to yell...)

Yeah, righteous indignation!

Guarenteed to work...

I'd say good luck, but this ain't about luck. This is about proacting to get a gorilla off your back....

Way to go!!! You're tougher and smarter than a danged cigarette. Don't think so. Put the stupid cigarette on the driver's seat of your car and tell it to drive...

Get my drift...

Sure it'sough but you're tougher!!!!!....

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: SINSULL
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 09:09 PM

Good for both of you. I have no intentions of kissing either one of you but I am still pleased to hear that you have quit. Happy, healthy days ahead. Enjoy!


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Ebbie
Date: 19 Aug 03 - 09:28 PM

"...avoiding others who are smoking" because of the temptation to smoke? More likely you keep your distance because of the way the smoker smells. When I quit, my sense of smell became very acute- some smells made me gag, literally. Dirty ashtrays and people without a recent bath were the worst.

One other trick I used when I was quitting, I stood a lot. As soon as I sat down, I wanted a cigarette; as long as I was on my feet I could handle it. I walked a lot too.

Good luck, both of you. You can do it, and it won't be long before you are SO glad you did.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 01:19 AM

katlaughing send the list please


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Morticia
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 01:53 AM

Thanks for the support,folks, I needed to lean on other people for a while...Janie, I won't if you won't,and vice versa, deal? PM me if you need a rant or whatever and I'll do the same....after all, we each know pretty much what the other is going through. And I'd like to see that list Kat,please?


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Dead Horse
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 07:06 AM

O.K. Morti, I wont hang around you any more, breathing my awful smokey breath down you neck.
If it helps, it helps.
Luv,
Ken


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Morticia
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 08:48 AM

you could try plying me with GIN until I don't notice anymore, DH *G*


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Amos
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 08:58 AM

My own sense is that the presence of others' smoke is an independent variable -- I can sit comfortably alongside of someone smoking most all the time now. It's only uncomfortable when I'd be feeling tempted anyway. This may be a subjective thing.

Anyway, Morty and Janey, we are rooting for you!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: katlaughing
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 10:49 AM

Here is a partial list, to start with. For protein, he suggests Boca brand soyburgers, etc. They are VERY delicious! Also for snacks he suggests almonds. He says the ratio of fat-protein-carbs is not what is important; rather getting the akaline balance back in our bodies. If you do a search on google quite a few sites come up, too. This one has a more extensive list: click. According to some info, it's the acid brought on from all those things I listed above which contribute to a host of ailments including high blood pressure and arthritis.

Here's a little more of what my acu-guy has to say: The best way to create a meal is to choose 80% alkaline and 20% acidic. That's it! You can still eat acid foods but now you know how to neutralize them with alkaline foods.

If you are very ill, then just eat foods that are more alkaline until you are feeling well and then slowly introduce acid foods back into your daily diet if you choose.


Alkaline Foods: (Remember these are the ones you want more of:-)

All Vegetables including potatoes and tomatoes.
All fruit including lemons and limes.
Soy milk, rice milk, almond milk, homogenized and non-fat milk
Grains: millet, buckwheat, spelt, quinoa, sprouted grains.
Nuts & Seeds: almonds, sesame, sunflower, flax.
Beans: soybeans, lima, sprouted beans.
Sugar: honey.
Oils: olive oil, sesame, sunflower, corn, safflower.

Acid Foods:

All meats: beef, pork, lamb, turkey, chicken and fish.
All refined white flour and wheat products: bread, pasta, pancakes, cookies, cakes.
All dairy: cheese, eggs, yogurt, butter, cream
Coffee, Alcohol, Juice.
Grains: brown rice, white rice, barley, wheat, oats, rye
Nuts: peanuts, cashews, walnuts, pecans, macadamia nuts
Sugars: brown sugar, white sugar, milk sugftr, cane sugar, high fructose com syrup, maple syrup, molasses.
Beans: Lentils, navy, kidney.
Oils: lard, crisco, margarine


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Dead Horse
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 11:04 AM

Wot! No gin?


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 11:39 AM

You can't smoke while you're using your hands for something else, so when you're at home, when the urge takes you, play a tune instead. Takes your mind of it too. If you don't play the penny whistle, maybe now's a good time to learn.   

And, as harvey andrews pointed out, you're well past any physical addiction, it's all in the mind. Some people do have an enormous struggle with it, but a lot don't have any real problem at all. Just because other people had a bad time with it, or even gave up on giving up, that's no reason you should have a major problem.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 12:21 PM

Not to start an unecessary argument, but I do disagree that, even if it is true that all nicotine is gone from the blood within 48 hours, there is no more physical withdrawal at that point. In fact, I would suggest that the absence of nicotine is exactly the cause of nicotine withdrawal symptoms. If she was seriously addicted, these would last at least one week, and the suffering she'd be enduring would be quite significant at the moment, not all in her mind. Morticia: I believe you have made it to the toughest and most critical stage right at this very moment. Hang on a little while. . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Morticia
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 12:26 PM

I'm hanging.....


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Amos
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 12:45 PM

48 hours? Pure bull; the nicotine addiction lasts longer than that on its way out, blood or no.

Keep on hanging in there, Morty -- there is a light at the end of the tunnel!!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 01:36 PM

Just because some people miss it an awful lot for a lot longer than a few days doesn't mean it must be a physical thing about nicotine. The mind is pretty powerful, and social rituals are pretty powerful too.

Anm illustration of that is that a lot of people who drink decaffeinated coffee would find it just as hard to give it up as those of us who drink it with the caffeine still in it.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Amos
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 02:09 PM

I didn't mean to make less of the physical research cited; I am simply asserting that for physical, mental, or other reasons there is more to the addiction than that by good measure.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: GUEST,heric
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 03:18 PM

Not exactly Lancet but try this:

http://www.quitsmokingsupport.com/withdrawal1.htm#index15

I understand that we wouldn't want to place her in unwarranted awe of the obstacles, but reviewing this and similar can reveal why there is light at the end of the tunnel.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: GUEST
Date: 20 Aug 03 - 04:22 PM

10 years for me apart from a 3 month gap in Belgium where it seemed to be compulsory to have a roll up or a Gitane hanging out of your gob... Even then had no problem when I got back!

When out for a drink I just had 2 pints instead of a pint and a cigarette. Got me realy pissed but oddly enough left me with no hangover! Not out for a drink was more of a problem. Sex is good but can get you banned from Sainsburys;-)

What realy did it for me though was just becoming a non smoker. I hadn't given up. I wasn't a reformed smoker. Just set my mind to being a non smoker and bingo! Easy. Can't realy explain it any better but just imagine looking at someone inhaling a deep lungful. Instead of thinking how much I would enjoy it I thought how much it would make me feel sick. And blow me - it worked!

I am going to become a smoker again and take to the pipe eventualy but something keeps putting me off. Just like it did when I used to try giving up. Might manage it when I retire...

Keep it up and good luck.

Cheers

Dave


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: JudeL
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 05:18 AM

Thinking in terms of aversion therapy....Just remember no more needing to have the window open to let the smoke out which in the evening also allowed moths to come in attracted by the light.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 05:59 AM

Perhaps with a really heavy smoker the smoke would repel the moths. The only time I've smoked in recent years has been as a way of keeping off the flies and so forth when camping or walking - and I've never felt the slightest urge to go back to smoking generally after this. The idea that you're necessarily always one fag away from dependency is no doubt true for some people, certainly not for me. (And I'm not suggesting that's this is a matter of willpower on my part and lack of willpower in theirs.)

I think people have a tendency to generalise too much from their own experience about things like that.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: alanabit
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 11:47 AM

You are right. It is different for everyone. I smoked intermittently in my late teens and early twenties - never more than a few weeks at a time. At one time I was even receiving free samples of cigarettes. The last time I stopped smoking I found it more difficult than the previous times, so I thought, "Bugger this!" I haven't smoked cigarettes since 1981.
   My mother finally stopped smoking in her early forties after several failed attempts. My father stopped at the first attempt in his late forties after some thirty years.
   My girlfriend, then 27, stopped smoking within the first month of us living together. (I never said anything - so I have always wondered what it was about me that put her off her ciggies). If I return from an evening of passive smoking (rehearsal room/pub etc), I am greeted with the tender words, "You stink!" It's all encouragement. Nothing like stopping my nookie to keep me on the straight and narrow!


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 01:22 PM

True enough. One thing when you don't smoke is that, when you come back from a night playing in a smoky pub or wherever, you really do appreciate how much your clothes stink of stale smoke.

What I really hate is when people put down a cigarette to smoulder in an ash tray instead of stubbing it out - at least with smoke that's been through someone's lungs, the worst of it is filtered out by the time they exhale. Which is rough on their lungs, but makes it a bit less unpleasant for the bystanders.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Janie
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 02:38 PM

Morti--I'm finding that after meals is a particularly tough time--it is helping to to note how nice it is not to slink off from the table for that smoke. Don't know what your situation is, but I literally have no friends or family who smoke, and only 1 aquaintance.

Lets keep on hangin', Girl.

Janie


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Amos
Date: 21 Aug 03 - 05:07 PM

Keep on hangin' gals!! I go into occasional pits of despond and always come out. Without succumbing to the tobacco demon.

It may not be easy but it sure is fun!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Ely
Date: 22 Aug 03 - 12:39 PM

Do you have kids/grandkids (if you're 25, pardon me for asking)? My grandfather, a lifelong smoker, died of a heart attack when he was 60 and my grandmother, who didn't smoke but breathed his secondhand all her married life, died of cancer at 57. I never met either one; my grandfather died a week before I was born. My mother has never quite forgiven him for that.

A college friend of mine had a really hard time with it, quitting and relapsing over and over, but he always commented that things smelled and tasted better, he got sick less, and didn't get as out-of-breath running around campus when he wasn't smoking.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: nutty
Date: 23 Aug 03 - 12:44 PM

Morti .....sorry I didn't get to this sooner but I've just got back from Whitby.
I'm still off the cigs and it's well over 2 years. There are still days when I have the urge to smoke but it doesn't really bother me all that much.
Everyone finds their own road to success but here are a few tips I've found useful ...........


Change your routine ,... particularly after meals
Try sugar free chewing gum
Sit on your hands when you start to get twitchy
Keep a glass of iced water handy and sip it (I use ice-lollies as a treat)
Have small things like grapes, celery pieces and carrot sticks in the fridge.
Avoid alcohol if (like me) you know it lowers your resistance
Don't worry if you start to put on weight (you are going to be more attractive anyway, with better skin and hair)
Don't try to deny your low moments ....I found that having a real good moan here on Mudcat always put me on the right path again.

I couldn't have been successful without the support of all these lovely people here. Thanks again folks

Good Luck to everyone who's trying


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Amos
Date: 23 Aug 03 - 01:09 PM

Hey, if we're gonna open the gates on moaning and bitching abou withdrawal, pull up a chair -- between Morty and Janie and me I think we're gonna need a new hard drive to hold it all!! LOL!

I hear you about support -- the acknowledgement of those I hold nearest and dearest both on and off the Cat has been THE thing that made it possible.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: paulo
Date: 23 Aug 03 - 04:32 PM

Hamish Imlach (a Scotish folksinger) was once asked why he drank, he replied " because I smoke"

When asked what he meant he said " I drink, I smoke and I eat lots of fatty foods because I'd hate to die of liver failure and leave perfectly good lungs and heart behind".

He did die at the age of 53.

Paulo


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 23 Aug 03 - 09:19 PM

Of course another way of getting off smoking is to take snuff instead - a much less anti-social way of taking tibacco. You don't get passive snuff taking as a rule.

With bars in New York and no doubt elsewhere banning smoking, I suspect snufftaking could be due for a comeback.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Janie
Date: 23 Aug 03 - 10:12 PM

Oh Puleez!

J


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: alanabit
Date: 24 Aug 03 - 04:15 AM

I liked Hamish Immlach too. He was a good singer and a very funny man. Another one of his very funny one liners was his description of good health as, "The slowest poosibble way of dying." He certainly enjoyed his cigarettes, alcohol and food. That didn't give his heart much chance, which was a shame. I am not the only one who would have liked to have him around still.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: alanabit
Date: 24 Aug 03 - 05:09 AM

Can somebody correct my typing there - I think there is another way to spell "possible"....


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Aug 03 - 07:19 AM

I'd like to second Bobert - think about the tobacco industry and their heinous practices, and the ludicrous amount of your money they'd like to get their hands on. Think about the way they advertise their products, and the way they're pushing them in the third world, now that their first world market is wising up. (They have attractive young street teams handing out freebies to teenagers on African beaches, that kind of thing - get them young).

Get angry, and refuse to be suckered. I think this was the most potent and helpful thing that I got from reading Alan Carr's book, can't remember the title but he has several give-up-smoking books. I gave up a number of times, and after reading his book, finally succeeded, and surprisingly easily.

Also - my grandfather died of emphysema, caused by smoking. It's a slow and a horrible death. And totally avoidable...

Keep at it, Morticia - you'll never regret it.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: alanabit
Date: 24 Aug 03 - 08:07 AM

I wish you had put a name on your post Guest, but I agree with every word you wrote. Here in Germany, smoking is officially banned in the underground train tunnels. On the other hand, nearly every station carries large cigarette advertisements. I call it peddling drugs to children and it pisses me off big time.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: MBSLynne
Date: 24 Aug 03 - 09:52 AM

Keep it up Morticia and Janie!! Well done so far. (Lots of encouragement seems a good way to help you!) Ted gave it up when I was pregnant with Richard and has never smoked since (Richard is 12). I had a friend who put away the money she would have spent on cigarettes every week and by the end of a year she bought a really lovely leather coat.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: MAG
Date: 25 Aug 03 - 12:57 PM

I smoked briefly in college and still have the occasional dream about sneaking a puff, 35 years later. I come from a medical family where everyone jumps down a smokers throat and my brother still got hooked bigtime. He gave up cigs cold turkey this New Year's and I am so glad.

Go see    or rent "Insider" if you need a reminder of what Bobert said.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: GUEST,DavidfromSydney
Date: 25 Aug 03 - 10:42 PM

Hi to all...

I don't know whether this helps Janie and Morticia... I smoked for about 20 years. Used to smuggle 10 Number Six and a muffled matchbox out of the house in the mornings and light up on Harlow Mill station while waiting to catch the train to school. Progressed to a 30 a day habit, but gave up when I moved to Australia in 1988.

This year I was diagnosed with early onset inherited Emphysema (I'm 48). Well I was well pissed off I can tell you - whinged to the Doctor about going to all that effort to give up smoking, and still coming down with a smoker's disease. He put me straight pretty quickly... "If you hadn't given up we wouldn't be chatting now".

Actually because my emphysema is inherited, although smoking helped it along, I was pretty certain to end up with it anyway. Giving up smoking has certainly prolonged my life. What helped me give up was the fact that moving continents pretty well broke all my old associations with smoking (pubs etc). I realise that that isn't an option for most people, but hang on in there... you could literally be saving your own lives.

I'm not militantly anti-smoking, personally I think it's an individual decision. I do believe that people should not smoke in public areas where they will affect others who do not share their decision to smoke. I now know that I should never have smoked, (and a simple cheap blood test as a child would have told me that). But my case doesn't apply to everyone. However, if you choose to smoke I think you should at least get a Pulmonary Function test every couple of years once you're past 40... believe me, you do not want Emphysema. Emphysema is a silent disease... you can lose over 50% of lung function without being aware that it's happening, because unless you are tested it doesn't show up except as very gradually increasing breathlessness with exertion (and don't we all get a bit less fit as we get older). This damage is irreversible. However, if caught early enough by a test, and you stop smoking at that time you stand a chance of containing the damage. If you let matters slide, you reach a point at which your lungs will continue to deteriorate whether you smoke or not.   

Dave Swarbrick has emphysema...He's still performing, and he's a huge encouragement to the rest of us "lungers" but I'm sure he'd rather be without the wheelchair and the oxygen bottle.

Janie, if you've had 2 bouts of pneumonia in six months think about getting your Doctor to refer you for a Pulmonary Function Test (if he hasn't already).

Good luck with the struggle. The most important thing is not to be hard on yourselves. Realise that any day spent not smoking is a big health plus. Tell yourselves, even if you slip up, that you're not a smoker. When offered a cigarette say "I don't smoke"... not "I'm giving up".

Good health

David


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: John Routledge
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 01:57 PM

Congrats again Morty Keep it up.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Amos
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 04:19 PM

Hey MORTY!!!


How's it going today??

Ya still riding that roller coaster??

Love ya,

A


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Morticia
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 04:39 PM

Nope, I fell off... but I plan on getting right back on again...


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: MudGuard
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 04:46 PM

as this is a no smoking thread: are tuxedos ok?

SCNR ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Amos
Date: 26 Aug 03 - 05:20 PM

OK, then duck. Back on you go!!

Y a wanna try sucking on those lozenges or something? It might make the difference...

A


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Morticia
Date: 27 Aug 03 - 05:12 AM

I think it was almost certainly a folk festival too soon....I kind of knew if I mixed in song and beer and old friends, I was asking for trouble but I couldn't miss the festival....I have another festival this weekend and then I will try again.

Andy, I bet you'd look very chic in a tuxedo *G*.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Janie
Date: 27 Aug 03 - 06:41 PM

Absolute worse times for me are after a meal and after 9:00pm. Last night Mudcat saved me....I made myself stay on it until the local convenience store had closed at 11:00. Without that diversion I would have surely gone out and bought a pack. I am really having a hard time accepting that these strong urges are going to be around for awhile and I have to learn to say NO, DAMMIT! no matter what. It is as if the nicotine is an evil but very persuasive voice in my head saying "Aw go ahead. Just one (or two or three or a pack) won't hurt. You can always say no tommorrow." Arrrghhh!!!!!:<(

Janie


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Amos
Date: 27 Aug 03 - 06:44 PM

Janie, HAAAANG ON!!! This too shall pass, promi9se!!

Try drinking a glass of water every time it gets strong on ya.

There is a way through!! Good on you for hanging tough!!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: GUEST,DavidfromSydney
Date: 27 Aug 03 - 07:12 PM

Hi Janie

Turn the temptation round. Tell yourself you are only saying no today, you can always say yes tomorrow. You have to do this one day at a time.

Breathe easy

David


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Chip2447
Date: 01 Jan 05 - 12:11 AM

After several attempts and eventually falling off the wagon, I've decided to give it another go. The problem that I've discovered is that I actually enjoy the taste, smell and act of smoking. This has been the cause of my relapses over the years.

I'll burn my last one this evening sometime, while I may not quite enter 2005 smoke free, I hope to end it that way.

Pax my friends...
Chip2447


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: GUEST,Frank
Date: 01 Jan 05 - 12:21 PM

Tobacco smoke is the most pernicious of all addictions because it's the hardest to break. I congratulate you Morticia in your decision to break it.

Here's the problem with tobacco addiction as I see it. It requires a complete overhaul of lifestyle which includes diet, exercise and sometimes psychological counseling. You have to admit it as being an addiction but remember that if you honor your decision to break it, you are not an addict anymore. You are on the road to recovery.

You have to look at it as a sickness and the way to get well is to get plenty of rest, eliminate bad habits in other areas of your life such as being around smokers or at least not allowing them to smoke around you, staying up late, drinking too much, not eating right (cut out the sweets) and cutting out any routine that is associated with smoking. If this seems harsh, well it is.

I wish you the best of luck in your courageous committment.

Frank


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Joybell
Date: 01 Jan 05 - 05:04 PM

Good thoughts and best wishes Morticia and Janie. Such a difficult step. Cheers, Joy


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: GUEST,Biskit~ just passin' through~
Date: 02 Jan 05 - 02:17 PM

Hard candy and chewin' gum worked for me, I tried the patches, pills etc. what finally got me was the shame of lying to the wife about it, (she knew) She's my best friend, confidant, and lover, what a weak little pissant to make up lies to cover my smoking! (addictions suck!)
anyway I quit, the first couple of weeks really suck, but it sucks less as time goes by,..eventually you'll start to feel better, then one day you'll wake up, take a deep breath, and NOT start hacking, just don't give up! the first cigarette is the only one you have to worry about. don't have it,and you won't have to worry about the rest of the pack. It's been 4 years now and I feel GREAT! started exercising, eating right, etc. it's amazing,once you start to feel better,you make even more healthy choices to improve the quality of your life. That's how it worked for me anyway.
You can do it!
~Biskit~


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: GUEST,~Biskit~
Date: 02 Jan 05 - 02:26 PM

and another thing,.. ;)
I Loved smoking cigarettes! They were a huge part of my life for 34 years. I liked the first one, and I enjoyed the last one. I'd have given anything if Brussel Sprouts caused emphsema! that would'a been easy to stay away from. you can do it but you have to really, really, want to. Good luck, and good health!
~Biskit~


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Morticia
Date: 02 Jan 05 - 08:10 PM

okay , didn't make it that time.........two days into it and going to this time......


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: GUEST,Biskit~ just passin' through~
Date: 03 Jan 05 - 01:57 AM

You can do it Morticia! Just don't have the first one dear,..the cravings do pass, but it's like any other addiction, you can't give in! not and succeed. stay focused on not having the first one, and stay busy, if you have a craving, take a walk, breath deeply! I'm prayin' for ya gal!
~Biskit~


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: kendall
Date: 03 Jan 05 - 02:47 AM

The only thing that worked for me was as soon as the desire to smoke hit me, I put my mind on something else. The desire to smoke goes away if you smoke, and if you don't. Will power will not do it. Don't think of it as "giving up smoking" think of it as stopping.
If that doesn't work, think of me; 47 years of smoking and all I got from it was CANCER! You are a singer, now, imagine what it must be like to be totally unable to sing, and worse yet, unable to talk. Now, light another one, Luv.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Cllr
Date: 03 Jan 05 - 08:50 AM

I gave up in Oct 03 and still "not" going strong, good luck morticia


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: nutty
Date: 03 Jan 05 - 12:01 PM

Good Luck to all of you. I tried many times before I succeeded.

Now my main reward is being able to sing all those songs that disappeared from my repertoire years ago, as my lungs got bunged up with smoke.

The joy of again being able to sing a full range at full power, without worrying that I am going to run out of breath, is not something that I will give up easily.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Tannywheeler
Date: 03 Jan 05 - 02:09 PM

Hi, guys. I'm so grateful that you are encouraging each other to keep on trying. I know hissy-fits from non-smokers who love you don't carry much weight. But I throw them anyway, in case that particular fit is THE STRAW... for that particular smoker that sets her/him on the path.

Hubby smoked from his early teens to late 50s. Has been quit now about 3&ahalf yrs. For several years he kept trying to sign up in the local VA clinic stop-smoking group ther. session. They have them every day of the week. They never seemed to get him fitted into one on his day off, but finally they did. He went once a week, got the patch, and got a good education. First they covered the chemistry of tobacco and smoke and the effects on human body. Then they started on the Tobacco Industry and its history of sneaking, lying, experimenting with product(and customers thereby) -- general dishonesty, chicanery, price-gouging, ETC.... By the second week he'd stopped buying cigs. After several weeks he was even going off the patches, which had saved me from the mood swings he might have suffered without them. Whenever he seemed to want a cig. he would find me and start reiterating some of the stuff he'd learned. The upshot was that the idea of cigarettes made him ANGRY, not desirous. Eventually, even those moments went away. Now, perhaps, as he keeps track of the meds he takes to cope with the damage he did to himself for years, he is sad sometimes. My mother smoked. I don't know when she started, but was doing it by 21yrs old, when I was born to her. She contemplated quitting in her mid-60s when she was being tested for some trouble in her throat that was interfering with her singing. They first discovered what it was NOT, so she gave up the idea of quitting. Trouble persisted, testing proceeded, cancer was discovered, she decided it was too late to quit!!!!!!! Surgery and chemotherapy seemed to solve the situation temporarily, but -- ZAP -- back IT came. She wouldn't go through another bout of treatment and was dead within 5 months, 2&ahalf months before her 67th b'day. She may be at peace, but her family and friends still miss her terribly. DO NOT go and do likewise.

STOPSMOKINGSTOPSMOKINGSTOPSMOKINGSTOPSMOKINGSTOPSMOKINGSTOPSMOKINGSTOPSMOKINGSTOPSMOKING .....(offered with love)...tw


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: MMario
Date: 03 Jan 05 - 04:11 PM

day three was always the toughest physically for me (I worked staff at a no smoking kids camp very summer for years - but never managed to keep from going back in the fall)


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: kendall
Date: 03 Jan 05 - 05:26 PM

A change of attitude and a change of life style is vital. Avoid smokers at all costs, find out what triggers your "need" to smoke and avoid them too. It's work but it's worth it. Just don't wait until it's too late to save your life or your voice as I did. I quit 7 years ago but I wish I had never started, or had quit sooner than I did.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Chip2447
Date: 03 Jan 05 - 07:12 PM

Motricia,
    I too gave them up as part of the new year. Best of luck and mutual strength. Here's to a smoke free 2005 for the both of us...


Chip2447


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: GUEST,Biskit~ just passin' through~
Date: 03 Jan 05 - 08:00 PM

Well put Kendall! after a while you'll want to stay away from smokers anyway because they smell awful! It took me 4 tries before I won. but I finally did and so can you!
Love, ~Biskit~


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Peace
Date: 03 Jan 05 - 08:04 PM

The cravings do go away.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Morticia
Date: 04 Jan 05 - 09:07 AM

thanks for all the encouragment...... now into day four......I have a good feeling that this is going to be it, I will do it this time. Lots of luck Chip,keep us all posted?


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Cllr
Date: 04 Jan 05 - 09:31 AM

WELL DONE MORTICIA KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK (caps lock off)Cllr


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Ellenpoly
Date: 04 Jan 05 - 10:24 AM

Morticia, many months back someone here at Mudcat posted a website which has helped me enormously. You can download the information for free, and once you learn the technique, it only takes about a minute to perform. I can highly recommend this now since I've used it for a number of different things, though not to stop smoking because I don't smoke. But there are loads of people who have used it for exactly that, so do think of going here and having a read. And the best of luck!

EFT Website



..xx..e


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Gervase
Date: 05 Jan 05 - 12:37 PM

Keep it up, honey. I'm also trying to bin the bastards, and it's making me an absolute sod to live with (but who the heck would noticve a difference anyway?), so Fiona has my sincerest sympathy.
Roll on Day Six!


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: GUEST,Jim
Date: 14 Apr 05 - 10:27 AM

Hi:

My wife and I have been together for four years and she is a smoker. This question may seem odd, but I can find no information regarding what I have determined to be a "syndrome". Here it is- I experience withdrawal symptoms on occasion, and I am someone who has not smoked in 10 years. Since I have smoked in the past I well know these symptoms and believe me they are exactly the same as I had when I went without cigarettes. I guess, then, my question is - can I get nicotine from kissing my wife? I am nuts or is this possible?


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: jeffp
Date: 14 Apr 05 - 10:38 AM

Probably not, but you may be picking up from the smoke in the air when you are with her. The passive smoking may be doing it for you.

jeffp


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: GUEST,Jim
Date: 14 Apr 05 - 10:50 AM

Thanks for the post...I guess I neglected to also say that she does not smoke in our home or when I am around (thankfully). It's a quandary. It's on my mind right now because I am currently going through...it normally lasts for about a week. The ironic part is that when she isn't smoking (those times she quits) I don't experience it, grrr...


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 14 Apr 05 - 11:08 AM

Psycological I reckon, Jim. I have also not smoked for years but occasionaly get the cravings which seem to trigger physical withdrawal symtems. Could be passive smoking with me though coz it is usualy when I am around other smokers - but not always!

Reaction to conditioning I reckon. Like Pavlova's dogs. You know, them that every time you ring a bell they eat a raspberry merigue..:-)

Cheers

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Morticia
Date: 14 Apr 05 - 01:54 PM

since it came up, I'm still with the programme.....how about you other guys?


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: jeffp
Date: 14 Apr 05 - 01:57 PM

Day after tomorrow will be the 4th anniversary of my last cigarette. Also my 51st birthday.

jeffp


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Chip2447
Date: 14 Apr 05 - 05:14 PM

104 days smoke free, well 103 actually, I smoked 3 cigs at my best friends bachelors party. I think that those were social cigarettes, much akin to having a drink. That was three weeks ago, I havent had any desire to grab a cig since.

Chip2447


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: nutty
Date: 14 Apr 05 - 06:01 PM

4years 4 months for me .....still get the cravings but I know that, now I'm on a pension, I couldn't afford to start smoking again and still manage to get to the places I want to be.

Well done Morticia and anyone else battling on. Keep at it you'll get there in the end.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Chip2447
Date: 21 Aug 07 - 11:11 PM

Having fallen from grace and the wagon, I'm giving it another go. This time instead of going in half hearted and half assed I've admitted to myself that I'm addicted both physically and mentally to nicotine and the act of smoking, but I know that they will KILL me if they get the chance. This wasnt much of an issue pushing 20, or 30. But now, with one foot on the train and the other nearing the platform marked 50 it has become paramount to me that it's time to do it...for good!!!

I made excuses before, It's only a half a pack a day, I like the act of smoking, I like the tasted of smoking. Now, I have to quit and make it stick. This makes the umpteenth time that I've "quit" stopped is a better choice of words, and I've gone from 6 months to 3 years, (I can't answer why, after 3 years I restarted, so please, don't ask.)

Had my LAST cigarette Yesterday about noon, The patch is helping to take the edge off this time, but I find the mental addiction to act of smoking to be the real kicker. That whole oral fixation thing I suppose, chewing gum, and on soda straws as well as sucking on ice seem to be working, for now.

I would appreciate any support taht any of you ex smokers, now smokers, and people who have realized that they are ADDICTED and want to join me.

Thanks Mudcatters, you folks are a blast to hang around with.
Chip


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 22 Aug 07 - 02:00 AM

Chip - try taking up a craft thing to do with your hands (not as a friend of mine did, took up "something", got RSI in one hand, chronic dehydration and nearly went blind), like sewing or knitting... something that will keep your fingers occupied but will have a positive outcome. It will be difficult at first but soon, like my mother, you'll be making 3 knitted dolls a week. She sold them and gave the money to a charity. The money she normally spent on cigarettes went on more wool and stuffing.

Replace one addiction with another by all means, but make sure it's a healthy addiction.

Good luck with it... Morty - do we get an update?

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: John O'L
Date: 22 Aug 07 - 05:20 AM

It's been over two years now, and I hardly ever even think of it any more.

The only thing I'd complain about is that I've put on 15 kg and haven't been able to get rid of it. I've heard that the sensors on your tongue that detect cigarette smoke are the same ones that detect sweet stuff and it's easier to give up the smoke if you step up the sugar intake accordingly.
I don't have a habit any more, now I just indulge myself because I've been doing it for two years and it's good fun. There are some wonderful tastes out there. Hmm. I wonder...
Is there a bit of Tiramisu left...?


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 22 Aug 07 - 08:11 AM

Hey Chip,
         Are you in England? I stopped 5weeks ago with a drug prescribed for me by my doctor called 'champix' which I understand to be a derivative of Zyban. So far it's been a doddle, next to no cravings at all. The trouble I found with patches is that you are still ingesting nicotine, so they never worked for me. Get some Champix.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Mr Happy
Date: 22 Aug 07 - 10:00 AM

'Er indoors wanted to be a few jumps ahead of the UK smoking ban & planned to pack up after her birthday at beginning of May this year.

I April or so I bought a fiddle on special offer for about £30.00, intending to learn it.

Couldn't do, so laid aside.

Mrs H had a few tries too & said she'd always wanted to learn it.

When she gave up the fags following her birthday, she took up the fiddle very seriously, also using the activity as a diversion to keep her mind off 'the noxious weed'.

Well she's not had a 'gasper' for 4 months now & has learned to play several recognisable tunes, even plucking up enough courage to come out to pub sessions with me & lead some tunes.


Similat to what LtS suggested above, having something to keep your hands [& mind] occupied is one of the key problems which can be addressed in this way.

Good luck Chip2447, & keep us posted!


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Rog Peek
Date: 22 Aug 07 - 07:34 PM

When I gave up 30 years ago, I was a very addicted smoker, 40 to 50 a day. It was very, very hard giving up, and that is why I never started again. I was hell to live with, I sucked menthol and eucalyptus sweets until I had a mouth full of ulcers and then went on the Rinstead Pastills. So Morticia if your finding it really hard, stick with it, because when you do finally kick the habit, you won't be one of those people who starts again "because it'll be easy to give up again".


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Chip2447
Date: 23 Aug 07 - 08:24 AM

Thanks folks, you don't know how much seeing your support is helping.

Thanx


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Rog Peek
Date: 23 Aug 07 - 02:05 PM

Sorry Chip2447, didn't realise you were at it too, best o' luck, don't give up!. Wooops, I mean DO give up uhhhh, what I mean is don't give up giving up!   Oh YOU know what I mean.......Don't you?


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: GUEST,elbows
Date: 24 Aug 07 - 11:39 AM

hak choke splutter huuuh haaah flem cough haaak haaak never done me any harm,choke


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 24 Aug 07 - 12:39 PM

Well I spent about 25 minutes in a tent with 2 smokers in the company on Wednesday night, and I'm only just getting over the irritating cough it has engendered.
I really really hate cigarette smoke, it makes me feel ill.
G.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Mickey191
Date: 24 Aug 07 - 09:54 PM

I went from 3 packs to zero with absolutely no problems. When I lit the last one - it was not on my mind to quit. Rainy day-smokin' & reading & when I left the room to put the kettle on I was still dragging on it. I walked back & suddenly the smell & looking at the ashtray--I just said"that's it!" Twenty seven years & I can sometimes still detect the aroma from an old book. Truth to tell-I don't know how my husband stood it. It sure does stink!!!


Morticia, you will succeed! Keep positive thoughts.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Mickey191
Date: 25 Aug 07 - 10:12 AM

To repeat an oft told tale. Four weeks ago, my friend's husband went to Dr. for a _slight_ cough. The long and short of it--Cancer in lung & lesion in the brain. The one good thing-he's had his radiation & chemo & has finished the course already. Now they wait.

Their strapping 6' 2" son will be finishing his long course of treatment for cancer of the tonsils. (The second case of this I've heard in the last month.)He never smoked. One wonders about second hand smoke-he grew up in a house of smokers.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Chip2447
Date: 28 Aug 07 - 10:14 PM

Doing well so far, touch wood. almost through the first 2 weeks of the patch. They seem to take the edge off off the nicotine addiction, it's the mental addiction to lighting, inhaling, and smoking a butt is not even as bad as it has been in the past, still though I find my self fighting it. I seem to be keeping the weight down as well...

Thanx for your support...

Chip


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Rog Peek
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 03:27 PM

Jack was a very heavy smoker who coughed so much, that one day his wife said "Jack, if you don't stop smoking, you are surely going to cough your guts up."
"Don't be daft" Jack said dismissively, "your talking nonsense."
So, his wife decided she would teach him a lesson. She went down to the butcher and bought a couple of pounds of pigs intestines. When Jack was asleep that night she placed the intestines next to every orifice in his body.
The next morning when she woke, she found Jack sitting on the edge of the bed, his face as white as a sheet.
"What's the matter" she said
"You were right he said, I did cough my guts up, but it's alright" he continued, "I managed to get it all back in again!"


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Leadfingers
Date: 29 Aug 07 - 08:33 PM

100 and good luck to all who are trying to Buck the Habit


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Chip2447
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 02:09 AM

REFRESH...

26 days in this time, tempted a time or two, successful in fighting the temptation.

Chip


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 03:06 AM

Good for you Chip - keep at it!

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Morticia
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 06:47 AM

I am still not smoking but I'd be a liar if I said I don't miss it. It is a battle even now.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Chip2447
Date: 09 Sep 07 - 02:09 PM

thank you very much Ladies, your support is greatly appreciated.

Morty, this is four+ years since you started this thread, I'M glad that you've made it this far, keep it up...

Chip


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Davie_
Date: 24 Sep 07 - 03:02 PM

After 41 years of convincing myself I enjoyed the smoking game, I have managed to not put a cig in my mouth since 10 May this year, survived Whitby, and am really enjoying the new tastes and smells. More importantly it allows me to hold my notes longer onflute. Stick with it all you achievers.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 24 Sep 07 - 03:27 PM

It's been about 13 months since I last had a cigarette and I don't ever want to have another one! I tried to stop smoking on many occassions but always went back to it. Sometimes when I am really stressed I think I would like a cig but I never actually go out and buy some. My health is better, my clothes, hair and breath smell better. I even drink less than I used to, actually I rarely have an alcoholic drink now. Smoking was a coping mechanism and a habbit for me that I am glad I no longer have.

Congratulations to everyone for keeping up the hard work....congrats to you too Morti, I know how hard you found it in the beginning.

Khatt


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Alice
Date: 24 Sep 07 - 09:49 PM

Congratulations!


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Chip2447
Date: 24 Sep 07 - 11:56 PM

Six weeks, most of the time I don't even miss em. Then, there are the others when a cigarette would be the perfect addition to my life. Up to this point I have managed to "Just say no" and the mental craving passes fairly quickly.

Chip...


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Chip2447
Date: 17 Sep 09 - 11:44 PM

More than two years on, and I'm still smoke free. I'm done with them for good this time.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Skivee
Date: 18 Sep 09 - 01:06 AM

Good for You, Chip!


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Morticia
Date: 18 Sep 09 - 04:26 AM

Didn't crack it the time I started this thread but have been 'clean' for about 4 and half years


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 18 Sep 09 - 04:28 AM

Well done, all of you.

I have not smoked for four years now, and the only ill effect I have known is that I can't abear to be near someone who is, or has been, smoking.

Mind you, "they" say there's none as chaste as a reformed whore . . .


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Chip2447
Date: 16 Sep 10 - 05:17 PM

Three years on, and still smoke free.


I'm convinced that I'm finished with them once and for all this time.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Ebbie
Date: 16 Sep 10 - 11:47 PM

You know, for me it's been 32 years - or is it 33? -and some months since I last had a cigarette. It is not a struggle for me anymore and hasn't been for years but every once in a while I wonder...

Like the time a few months ago when I found an open pack on the sidewalk with 9 or 10 ciggies in it. I didn't linger and lust over them- I just marched straight down the street two blocks and took the pack to our local homeless shelter where they were appreciatively received.

What an ugly, pointless habit- and no Brownie points for a one.


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Subject: RE: BS: another no smoking thread
From: Slag
Date: 17 Sep 10 - 06:56 PM

In a way, it is really easy. You are in an argument with an addiction. It has only one argument: "Do it!" Your's is the simple counter to anyone or anything that is urging you to do something you know is wrong: "NO!" You just keep saying "NO" to the "yes" urges and eventually, they will give up and go away. That's a promise because that "yes" urge is really a lie, and you know it.

Beside, many of us, most of us are rooting in your favor! You CAN DO IT!


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