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WFDU - Ron Olesko 07 May 03 - 12:01 AM
Clinton Hammond 07 May 03 - 12:25 AM
Jeremiah McCaw 07 May 03 - 05:03 AM
George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca 07 May 03 - 05:47 AM
Willie-O 07 May 03 - 03:48 PM
Clinton Hammond 07 May 03 - 03:50 PM
Phil Cooper 07 May 03 - 06:12 PM
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Subject: Stan Rogers instrumental?
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 07 May 03 - 12:01 AM

I'm scratching my head and I can't come up with anything.   Does anyone know of any instrumental recordings of Stan Rogers songs??   There are tons of covers, but I can't think of any instrumentals.   I'm looking for a project I'm doing.


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Subject: RE: Stan Rogers instrumental?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 07 May 03 - 12:25 AM

The only insrumentals I know of are Stans own "Plenty Of Hornpipe" (which isn't really a hornpipe at all)

And Garnet used to on occasion end his show by coming back out with his fiddle and doing "Northwest Passage" with the audience singing the chorus, into "The Idiot"... I MIGHT have a crappy recording of that on a cassette tape somewhere...

Really, the lyrics and the voice were 85+% of Stans songs... Instrumental versions? I just don't see the point...


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Subject: RE: Stan Rogers instrumental?
From: Jeremiah McCaw
Date: 07 May 03 - 05:03 AM

I've heard Scott Cameron Smith do an instrumental version of "Northwest Passage" a few years back. In 3/4 time, and right pretty it was, too. He hasn't recorded it 'though.


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Subject: RE: Stan Rogers instrumental?
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca
Date: 07 May 03 - 05:47 AM

Symphony Nova Scotia, last Friday, at the beginning of their tribute to Stan Rogers did a 10 minute prelude. One of the members had arranged a series of Stan Rogers tunes into a very nice medley.

IS that what you were looking for, Ron? Or individual songs done instrumentally?


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Subject: RE: Stan Rogers instrumental?
From: Willie-O
Date: 07 May 03 - 03:48 PM

I have to disagree with Clinton. One important factor that made Stan an outstanding songwriter was that he wrote very strong melodies. Not everyone does. (See "Dylan, Bob.) His lyrics, melodies and his own voice blended so well together that it was difficult to separate these elements. I think this is also why it was some time after his death that a lot of artists started to cover Stan's material. He really recorded the definitive versions of most of his own songs, and you wouldn't want to put yours up beside them.

"Fogarty's Cove" would make a fine instrumental for any Celtic stringband. I've played "Northwest Passage", not as an instrumental, but with DADGAD fingerpicking accompaniment, and it always gets a good response. Lots of meat on that tune--as with many he wrote.

W-O


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Subject: RE: Stan Rogers instrumental?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 07 May 03 - 03:50 PM

Maybe it's just that I don't dig instrumental music as much as I dig songs...

:-)


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Subject: RE: Stan Rogers instrumental?
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 07 May 03 - 06:12 PM

I used to play an instrumental version of "The Lock Keeper" not having a voice like Stan's I thought I'd just play it. His mother wrote me saying they had gotten a tape from a piano player in Yellow Knife who had done a whole cassette of Stan's songs as instrumentals. I don't think that cassette has been, or was meant for release. I agree with Clinton, that the words to Stan's songs are what immediately grabbed you. But the tunes are great.


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Subject: RE: Stan Rogers instrumental?
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 07 May 03 - 07:24 PM

I agree with you all about the words, but I do think the tunes are equally beautiful.

The reason I asked this question is for a radio show I am producing about Stan. I was hoping to find a few bits of instrumentals to use as a music bed for some narration between songs and interviews.


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Subject: RE: Stan Rogers instrumental?
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 07 May 03 - 07:38 PM

Ron, I still have a cassette of the recording where we included Lock Keeper, if you want a copy.


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Subject: RE: Stan Rogers instrumental?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 07 May 03 - 08:08 PM

Paul Mills (Curly Boy Stubbs) and I were playing some Stan songs (as instrumentals) just three days ago. "Watchin' The Apples Grow". Fogarty's Cove and "Plenty Of Hornpipe". If you play the last one, remember their's one bar of 3/4 in it!

Cheers

Rick


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Subject: RE: Stan Rogers instrumental?
From: GUEST,Noble Savage
Date: 07 May 03 - 10:13 PM

Also, "The Idiot" is used for a Fieldtown-style Morris dance--at least here in N. California


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Subject: RE: Stan Rogers instrumental?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 08 May 03 - 03:22 PM

That would tickle Stan to no end I'd imagine... cause he wrote "The Idiot" partially to parody Morris Dancing... "Knuckle dragging neanderthal beat" was what he called it on one recording...

Silly people... ya don't know when yer being made fun of...

And Rick... The 4/4 to 3/4 to 4/4 change is in "Fogartys Cove", not "Plenty Of Hornpipe" mate...


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Subject: RE: Stan Rogers instrumental?
From: GUEST,JohnB
Date: 08 May 03 - 11:46 PM

Our Border Morris side also do a dance to thr Idiot, written by Mike from Bassett Street Hounds. There is another side who do a Cotswold dance tro the same tune and a Northwest Clogger who clogs to it. All of the above are in the Toronto area, I'm still working on ALL of us doing our own dance at the same time. Total Irony.
JohnB


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Subject: RE: Stan Rogers instrumental?
From: Cluin
Date: 09 May 03 - 12:34 AM

Put down the sticks! That's it.... nice... and... slooooow...

Now, step away from them. No sudden moves... that's right....

Okay, now all you folks go on home and we'll try and forget this little incident ever happened. Drop off your funny little hats at the exit on your way out.


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Subject: RE: Stan Rogers instrumental?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 09 May 03 - 11:02 AM

You're sharp today Clinton! I stand corrected.

Cheers

Rick


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Subject: RE: Stan Rogers instrumental?
From: GUEST,Claymore
Date: 09 May 03 - 04:42 PM

But Cluin, during May Day in Shepherdstown, we use our Border Morris as crowd control, and issue them thicker sticks... "So the last thing you heard were sleigh bells before the lights went out?... So that explains the lump, now what about the grease paint?"


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Subject: RE: Stan Rogers instrumental?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 10 May 03 - 10:05 AM

I have my moments from time to time Rick...

:-)


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Subject: RE: Stan Rogers instrumental?
From: Cluin
Date: 10 May 03 - 06:55 PM

Are you still doin' that, Clint?

I thought it was against the judge's orders.


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Subject: RE: Stan Rogers instrumental?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 10 May 03 - 07:32 PM

Ya... from time to time, in spite of the Guinness and Tully drip I live on, good ideas and such still manage to claw their way to the surface...

and well, what the judge don't know won't hurt her...

Heh

:-)


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Subject: RE: Stan Rogers instrumental?
From: Kudzuman
Date: 19 May 03 - 08:34 PM

This is an older thread, but I just pulled out "Fogarty's Cove" (what a great recording as are all of Stan's) and listened to the first cut, "Watching the Apples Grow" and realized that this is almost note for note the version of "Cherokee Shuffle" that I learned years agone. Does this click with anyone elses take on this. If so, then this was an instrumental before Stan borrowed the tune or independently came up with nearly the same thing. What say ye all, Mudcatters?

Kudzuman (Watching it grow and grow and grow....the Kudzu that is...)


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