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Subject: Tech: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 04:08 AM

apart from creating the world, the animals & the people.....?


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Subject: RE: Tech: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Boab
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 04:22 AM

Gave Charlton Heston the Ten Commandments


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Subject: RE: Tech: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Red and White Rabbit
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 04:25 AM

And Harry Secombe and Thora Hird a sunday job


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Subject: RE: Tech: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 04:35 AM

heloo, he sent us his son called jesus, 9allegidly)
this was at christmas time, in the olden days.john


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Subject: RE: Tech: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Dead Horse
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 04:37 AM

Which God are we talking about here?


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Subject: RE: Tech: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 04:39 AM

the omnipotent one


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Subject: RE: Tech: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 04:44 AM

send him some viagra then.


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Subject: RE: Tech: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: GUEST,Septic Sceptic
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 04:44 AM

An imaginary mandate for war and atrocity - in his/her/it's name sake.


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Subject: RE: Tech: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 04:46 AM

agree- weapons of mass DISTRACTION!


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Subject: RE: Tech: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: gnomad
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 04:55 AM

TECH??

I have my doubts, but we shouldn't confuse what God did with what humankind did citing God as an authority.


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Subject: RE: Tech: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 04:57 AM

TECH?? - its about making & unmaking


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Subject: RE: Tech: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Dave Bryant
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 04:58 AM

Gave us Dubya and jOhn from Hull9.


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Subject: RE: Tech: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 05:33 AM

All things bright and beautiful, all creatures great and small,
All things wise and wonderful, the Lord God made them all.

Each little flow'r that opens, each little bird that sings,
He made their glowing colors, He made their tiny wings.

The purple-headed mountain, the river running by,
The sunset and the morning that brighten up the sky.

The cold wind in the winter, the pleasant summer sun,
The ripe fruits in the garden, He made them, every one.

He gave us eyes to see them, and lips that we might tell
How great is God Almighty, who has made all things well.


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Subject: Lyr Add: ALL THINGS DULL AND UGLY (Eric Idle)
From: Mr Happy
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 05:34 AM

All things dull and ugly, all creatures short and squat;
All things rude and nasty, the Lord God made the lot.

Each little snake that poisons, each little wasp that stings
He made their brutish venom, He made their horrid wings.

All things sick and cancerous, all evil great and small
All things foul and dangerous, the Lord God made them all.

Each nasty little hornet, each beastly little squid.
Who made the spiky urchin? Who made the shark? He did.

All things scabbed and ulcerous, all pox both great and small,
Putrid, foul and gangrenous, The Lord God made them all.


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Subject: RE: Tech: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 06:02 AM

Ask not what your God has done for you, but what you can do etc etc etc


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Subject: RE: Tech: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 06:33 AM

u mean i should start another thred about what has g never done 4 us?


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Subject: RE: Tech: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 06:51 AM

The rich man in his castle,
The poor man at his gate;
He made them high or lowly
And ordered their estate.


Proof, if proof were needed, that God wants us to vote Conservative.

Steve


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Subject: RE: Tech: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 06:56 AM

yes steve- when i checked the dt for 'All things bright and beautiful'- i wondered if it was sinisterly significant that your verse had been omitted.


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Subject: RE: Tech: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Schantieman
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 07:12 AM

Having been invented to explain things otherwise inexplicable (many of which are now explained), God provides a convenient authority to enable 'intermediaries' to tell us to do what they think we ought to.

On the other hand, religion has provided a generally useful moral framework - not killing or stealing for example (although I have been known to covet my neighbour's ass).

Steve


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Subject: RE: Tech: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 07:21 AM

not killing? so its ok to go to war if you've got g on your side?


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Subject: RE: Tech: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Scabby Douglas
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 07:28 AM

God's Song (Randy Newman)

Cain slew Abel Seth knew not why
For if the children of Israel were to multiply
Why must any of the children die?
So he asked the Lord
And the Lord said:

Man means nothing he means less to me
Than the lowliest cactus flower
Or the humblest Yucca tree
He chases round this desert
'Cause he thinks that's where I'll be
That's why I love mankind

I recoil in horror fro the foulness of thee
>From the squalor and the filth and the misery
How we laugh up here in heaven at the prayers you offer me
That's why I love mankind

The Christians and the Jews were having a jamboree
The Buddhists and the Hindus joined on satellite TV
They picked their four greatest priests
And they began to speak
They said, "Lord, a plague is on the world
Lord, no man is free
The temples that we built to you
Have tumbled into the sea
Lord, if you won't take care of us
Won't you please, please let us be?"
And the Lord said
And the Lord said

I burn down your cities-how blind you must be
I take from you your children and you say how blessed are we
You all must be crazy to put your faith in me
That's why I love mankind
You really need me
That's why I love mankind


Cheers


Steven


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Subject: RE: Tech: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 08:40 AM

My name it means nothing, my age it means less
And the country I come from is called the Midwest,
Was taught and I learned there the law to abide
And the people who live there have God on their side

The history book tells it, it tells it so well
The cavalry charged and the Indians fell
The cavalry charged and the Indians died
Our country was young then with God on our side

The Spanish American War had its day
And the Civil War too was soon laid away
The names of the heroes, I was made to memorize
With their guns in their hands and God on their side

Oh the First World War, boys, it came and it went
The reasons for fighting I never did get
But I learned to accept it, to accept it with pride
For you don't count the dead with god on your side

The Second World War, boys, it came to an end
We forgave the Germans and called them our friends
Though they killed six million, in the ovens they fried
The Germans now too have God on their side

For many long years I've thought about this
That Jesus Christ was betrayed by a kiss
I can't do it for you, you've got to decide
If Judas Iscariot had God on his side

I've learned to hate Russians all thru my whole life
If another war comes, it's them we must fight
To hate and to fear them, to run and to hide
And accept it all bravely with God on our side

But now we've got weapons of the chemical dust
If fire them we're forced to, then fire them we must
One push of the button and a shot the world wide
And you never ask questions with God on your side

So now as I'm leaving, I'm weary as hell
The confusion I'm feeling, ain't no tongue can tell
The words fill my head and fall to the floor
If God's on our side, He'll stop the next war


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Subject: RE: Tech: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 08:41 AM

He gave me every good thing that I have.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: Tech: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: 53
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 08:48 AM

Saved our souls from Hell if you are a born again Christian


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Subject: RE: BS: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 08:58 AM

Amen, 53.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: Tech: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: bernil
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 09:17 AM

Sometimes he lets great miracles happen to us. But many seemingly small things he does in our every day lives are miracles too. We just have to open our eyes and our minds too discover them and be thankful for them!

Berit


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Subject: RE: BS: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Mr Happy
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 09:24 AM

Truth and Love Are Never Far Apart.


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Subject: RE: BS: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: sian, west wales
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 09:25 AM

For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son, that whosoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

That's good for starters.

sian


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Subject: RE: BS: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 09:25 AM

My mother had some thoughts on this some 25 years ago:

THROUBLE IN HEAVEN

(Words by Dahlov Ipcar, Circa 1975
Tune: after "The Falcon" by Richard Farina)

The archangels we meet all carry spears
And have an angry look as if to say,
"Though God's been dead in Heaven these long years,
Don't be trying to put us away!"

Chorus:

The lessor angels form protective bands,
They dare not go out late at night;
They speak in whispers of "trouble" in this land,
They, no longer seek the light.

Our prophets say He was a God of Love,
And speak of a freedom we never knew;
But by their every action seem to prove
That God was a tyrant and a bigot too. (CHO)

Final:
Lucifer smiles as patiently he waits,
Until the day we open wide the gates.

Have a nice day!
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: BS: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 09:59 AM

As the song, His Eye Is On The Sparrow says, "I sing because I'm happy."

Or is that Mr. Happy? :-)

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Genie
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 10:08 AM

What did GOD ever do for us? How 'bout "give us someone for conceited people to think they are"?


Seriously, folks, I think she's been pretty good to me! :-D

Genie


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Subject: RE: BS: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 10:56 AM

Assuming that "God" can mean anything from the anthropomorphic deity of Judeo-Christain-Islamic tradition to the unspecified oneness of the Tao to just "The Universe" for those who espouse no spiritual beliefs, the only possible answer is "everything".

Bruce


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Subject: RE: BS: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: mack/misophist
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 11:24 AM

Although the poet Blake considered himself a Christian, he called the god of the Bible "Old Nobodaddy" (Nobody's Daddy) and denounced him as a muderous, murdering, bigot. He must have been a fan of DIY.


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Subject: RE: BS: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 11:33 AM

Only goes to show... not everyone who calls themselves a Christian is...

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: GUEST,Taliesn
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 11:39 AM

God gaves us each a soul ,which is the part of us made in God's image ,without which we "are" just localized envalopes of purely biological "appetites" to be satisfied with nothing larger to aspire to but more complex systems designed for evermore intricate accommodations for satisfying those appetites.
That's what ultimately leads to man's "Art of War" with himself.
A "moral compass" is not a socially engineered "ethic" attempted to be reinforced by social contractual mechanisms. Sense of a higher being as being attainable is the truest from of "self-governance".
Without the soul's tuning fork, there is no North Star to navigate oneself by and measure from. The most direct way of which to acheive mastery of this self-navigation is the gift of its ability to ressonant to God's love and through practice of the expression of that love one enriches this otherwise karnal world of biological conventions.

All evil derives from diverting one's attention away from , or denying the existance of ,the gift of one's soul for it is from this gift that we are given our true sense of identity as individuak signatures and as part of a greater whole through which we can evolve beyond the merely biological existance.
I'm forever amused that the advocates of biological evolution completely miss the point that "conciousness" evolves as well and the that even the logical conclusion to a soul-imbued biological conciousness is to be able to evolve to were a biological "vehicle" or "media" is no longer necessary.
That's the part that never dies as Physicists themselves promote "their" discovery that energy can *not* be destroyed, it only changes the matrix it adheres to and expresses itself through.

In more practical applications I'm thankful for the gift of the soul as being the source of my artistic intution that allows me to experience the aesthetic , and not the base biologically "sensual" , thrill of music.
That is way I no longer bother with the harshly "enhanced" music that merely "feels good" because that music not only just goes for the groin and the ego, but is excrutingly precise in being desgned to "just" go for the groin and the ego.
It's just like not getting regularly drunk because it "feels good" as it also degenerates one's health.

Where does folk fit in. Why anything that has the sound of the ring of truth in its performance ,message , or artistry for that resonnates to that tuning fork and anything that excites that makes us more aware of "the gift".

I well remember Jerry Rassmussen's wonder song performed live here with the refrain " Just because it feels good, that don't make it right". Tht had the ring of truth to it to me.

Anyway, you asked and that's my story and iI'm sticking to it.


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Subject: RE: BS: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: GUEST,Forum Lurker
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 11:44 AM

Well, if God exists as the christians say he does, he created just about everything. The only thing he didn't give us was knowledge of good and evil. Guess he didn't want to show his true colors.


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Subject: RE: BS: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: GUEST,bbc at work
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 11:47 AM

What *hasn't* He done for us?

rhetorically,

bbc


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Subject: RE: BS: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: beadie
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 11:47 AM

Personally, I think that the sterotypical "God" is overrated. I feel certain that there is some creative force in the universe (or beyond), but, hell, this guy doesn't even have an advanced degree!

. . . . . . Why didn't God get his degree, you ask? . . . . .

. . . . Regardez . . . .


1. He had only one major publication.
2. It was in Hebrew.
3. It had no references.
4. It wasn't published in a refereed journal.
5. Some even doubt he wrote it by himself.
6. It may be true that he created the world, but what has he done since then?
7. His cooperative efforts have been quite limited.
8. The scientific community has had a hard time replicating his results.
9. He never applied to the ethics board for permission to use human subjetcs.
10. When one experiment went awry he tried to cover it by drowning his subjects.
11. When subjects didn't behave as predicted, he deleted them from the sample.
12. He rarely came to class, just told students to read the book.
13. Some say he had his son teach the class.
14. He expelled his first two students for learning.
15. Although there were only 10 requirements, most of his students failed his tests.
16. His office hours were infrequent and usually held on a mountaintop.


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Subject: RE: BS: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 12:59 PM

Not true, beadie! God has put out more "major publications" than you could ever count, and is STILL doing so. I can't help it if you haven't bothered to give them credence, and have chosen to fixate on just one that is 2,000+ years old...

Some of the better known ones are the Baghavad Gita, the Bible, the Q'ran, the Upanishads, the Book of Mormon, the Torah, the Vedas, the "Conversations With God" series, the Bahai writings, the Taoist writings, the Buddhist scriptures, the Medicine teachings of the Amerindians, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on....

There will probably be several new ones out this year. Keepa you eyes and ears open!

You will note that there are some interesting differences to be found in these scriptures...one to another. Yes! That is because they were given to different people in different societies at different times...and that required a somewhat different approach, different wording, putting things in terms that were understandable to the listener and applicable to his/her life at the time. Capiche?

It's also because the scriptures were filtered through the consciousness of the people who wrote them down or memorized them (in societies with an oral tradition), and those people's own state of awareness colored the teachings accordingly, in line with what they were capable of expressing and understanding.

In other words, if you are living amongst a tribal people on the veldt, and must contend with lions, locusts, and immediate physical dangers...then you may need a different instruction booklet than does a philosopher in Shanghai during the reign of the Yellow Emperor or an accountant in present day Schenectady!

Interestingly enough, however, there is a sort of central theme that runs through all of the above teachings...and the wise seek it out carefully. This is why the wise also honour ALL the holy scriptures, not just the one common to the tiny little cultural milieu that they were born and brought up in.

But, hey! Your post had some amusing stuff in it. That's always handy, cos people can get way too solemn when discussing God. :-) God is not always solemn.

Now, regarding the ten so-called "requirements"...

They weren't requirements at all. They were promises of what would begin to happen within YOU as you approach closer to God in your own conscious awareness. In other words...when you begin to achieve godliness you will find that you tend:

Not to kill wantonly...

Not to lie...

Not to steal...

Not to bear false witness...

Not to speak of sacred things in a profane (a negative) way...

Not to covet things which don't belong to you (such as your neighbour's spouse, possessions, land, etc...), given the fact that strong "coveting" of that sort usually leads to some sort of harmful outward activity eventually (or at least creates a harmful inward emotional condition)

Not to "adulterize" (meaning, not to defile what is pure...as in not to defile love with deceitfullness and manipulation)

And so on.

As you become more enlightened, you tend to become more loving (of God, Self, and others), more generous, less fearful, more respectful, less violent, more kindly. All of that leads toward realizing the Ten Promises which were given.

To expect any living human being to always and perfectly meet ten "COMMANDMENTS" of that sort would be so unlikely as to be ridiculous! No one has done that. Everyone must kill, for example, killing some other form of life from time to time in order to simply survive as a biological being.

Yet the enlightened are far less inclined to kill thoughtlessly and wantonly. They are less inclined to murder. This is obvious.

God does not give Commandments. If He/She did, they would be unbreakable...and what we know as free will would cease to exist, and you would have no further need OF holy scriptures to advise you, cos you would be an obedient robot.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: greg stephens
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 01:30 PM

God moves in such mysterious ways, it's a little tricky to answer this question. If he's so clever, why didnt he make pi equal 3, for example? But he got gravity spot on, it holds you down for convenience, but doesn't pull your feet right into the ground.


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Subject: RE: BS: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 01:37 PM

There is no god... never has been... never will be...

So I guess the answer is dilluded a whole lot of people into believing he exists...


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Subject: RE: BS: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: GUEST,Taliesn
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 01:56 PM

(quote)
"There is no god... never has been... never will be..."

Or so you "believe" ;-)

(quote)
"So I guess the answer is dilluded a whole lot of people into believing he exists... "

You are, ofcourse ,"presuming" that you're not self-deluded .
To each their own.

We are what we believe and....
we all ultimately find out exactly what's what in the end. ;-)

Guess then you'd feel your plum outta luck if you can't afford to clone yourself. Otherwise all you came from, all you were , and all you became just ceases to exist as if you'd never existed at all save what ever artifacts you left behind.
It's a little like the thrill you "don't" get if someone , while you're alive , would perform ,for example , a song you wrote somewhere in the world and you're not there to even be aware of it.

Do you really belive that your individualized energy pattern disintegrates upon death. Well if you "beleive" this hard enough the strength of your belief just might make it so.
Nothing like geting what you wish for ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: beadie
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 02:02 PM

Hawk:

    Just a couple of responses . . . .

Are you saying that the differences within the Taoist screeds, the Gita, the Q'ran, the Torah, the Bible et al are merely semantic variations on the same theme, written by the same hand? Then, perhaps, we are not so different as you might surmise. A central core of my belief is that the deity (or deities) does not "choose" one particular group to favor with blessings. It would make sense for different cultures within different environments to have differing views of (and names for) a perceived "God."

Secondly, as to the "requirements." When I was a lad (sounds like the beginning of a good song), there was no "positive" reward for acheiving compliance, only the avoidance of a negative one. It was "follow these or else." Hence, . . . "required" behavior was the way in which it was presented, and I think it still is for many folk. Your analysis that no one can ever fully comply is, again, contrary to the mantra that I hear from many of the more fundamental believers that I encounter at work or on the street. I think you're on the right track (hence, my scepticism about the origin of the decalogue and the role of the deity in its writing), but there are a whole lot of literalist interpretations that will disagree most emphatically.

Finally, I didn't compose the previous post, but I don't know who did, so I can't give credit where its due. I do presume from the tone of the piece, though, that it may have been written by the guy who drives around with the bumper sticker on his car that says he's "doing his part to piss off the religious right."


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Subject: RE: BS: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 02:22 PM

Just to be contrary and oppositional...

What did GOD ever do for the religious right?

What did GOD ever do for the radical left?

Discuss.


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Subject: RE: BS: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: beadie
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 02:39 PM

Guest:

   I guess He did for them whatever they think He did for them.


hmmmmmmmmmm . . . . I wonder if that's anything more than a grammatical simile to "I Am Who Am."


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Subject: RE: BS: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Bobert
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 02:40 PM

If ya' gotta ask then chances are you ain't gonna get the answer.

Thank you, Lord, and I ask that You speak loudly in the hearts and minds of folks who are at least making the attempts to get to know You.

Praise be to God.

Bobert


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Subject: RE: BS: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 02:51 PM

Guest: God doesn't read labels.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 03:04 PM

Everyone belives in something, Clinton. You believe there is no God. You can't prove God doesn't exist, any more than I can (or have any desire to) prove he does. Faith is the evidence of things not seen.

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 03:11 PM

Does God read?

Discuss.


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Subject: RE: BS: What did GOD ever do for us?
From: beadie
Date: 22 Nov 02 - 03:21 PM

Jerry: You may be right in saying that everybody believes in something, but what about folks like Crash Davis (Bull Durham)?

"I believe in the soul, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas
morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep,
soft, wet kisses that last three days. Goodnight."

. . . Is this sufficiently organized to be called a belief SYSTEM (if not a religion)?


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