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BS: PC madness

Orac 12 Sep 02 - 12:29 PM
McGrath of Harlow 12 Sep 02 - 12:39 PM
Clinton Hammond 12 Sep 02 - 12:41 PM
Tiger 12 Sep 02 - 02:09 PM
McGrath of Harlow 12 Sep 02 - 02:22 PM
Amos 12 Sep 02 - 05:05 PM
greg stephens 12 Sep 02 - 05:50 PM
Jerry Rasmussen 12 Sep 02 - 06:12 PM
Gareth 12 Sep 02 - 06:59 PM
Amos 12 Sep 02 - 07:11 PM
McGrath of Harlow 12 Sep 02 - 07:13 PM
Joe Offer 12 Sep 02 - 07:25 PM
McGrath of Harlow 12 Sep 02 - 09:20 PM
Mr Happy 12 Sep 02 - 09:23 PM
Janice in NJ 12 Sep 02 - 09:36 PM
leprechaun 12 Sep 02 - 09:41 PM
GUEST 12 Sep 02 - 09:52 PM
BK 12 Sep 02 - 11:39 PM
bdatki 13 Sep 02 - 12:05 AM
Orac 13 Sep 02 - 05:31 AM
greg stephens 13 Sep 02 - 07:05 AM
GUEST,Fred Miller 13 Sep 02 - 10:01 AM
Orac 13 Sep 02 - 10:15 AM
leprechaun 14 Sep 02 - 12:55 AM
bdatki 14 Sep 02 - 01:04 AM
GUEST,HelenJ 14 Sep 02 - 03:53 AM
Orac 14 Sep 02 - 07:35 AM
Janice in NJ 14 Sep 02 - 10:55 AM
leprechaun 14 Sep 02 - 11:19 AM
Amos 14 Sep 02 - 01:38 PM
McGrath of Harlow 14 Sep 02 - 01:47 PM
Gareth 14 Sep 02 - 02:33 PM
McGrath of Harlow 14 Sep 02 - 05:50 PM
Gareth 14 Sep 02 - 06:39 PM
McGrath of Harlow 14 Sep 02 - 06:46 PM
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Subject: PC madness
From: Orac
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 12:29 PM

How many like me are fed up with all the political correctness that has got out of hand these days. A friend of mine has just retired from a headmastership in Birmingham UK. The things that he had had to put up with from the local council are just laughable. His school was not allowed any longer to celebrate "Christmas" .... It had to be called "Winterval" in case it offended any ethnic minorities. Any other gems like this would be appreciated


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Subject: RE: PC madness
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 12:39 PM

As I understand it the Winterval idea is to cover all the other festivals that happen round the same time of year.

Not a very felicitous word but the idea makes sense, so long as it doesn't involve people failing to celebrate the particular festival which may be relevant to them.


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Subject: RE: PC madness
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 12:41 PM

PC madness??

Is that like reefer maddness??

Winterval... Christmas... Solstice... X-mas... whatever... call it what ya want, just have a damn good time!


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Subject: RE: PC madness
From: Tiger
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 02:09 PM

PC episodes are beginning to sound like lawyer jokes.

Hopefully, the backlash will blow this ridiculous concept to smithereens.

(Shields up, Mr. Sulu!)


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Subject: RE: PC madness
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 02:22 PM

What's ridiculous about people who celebrate Christmas on December 25th and people who celebrate it on 6th January, and people who celebrate Hanukah, or New Years Day or whatever as their special day publicly recognising that they are all have something in common in their mid-winter feast day?

So long as this doesn't get in the way of people feeling free to celebrate whatever is their special feast.


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Subject: RE: PC madness
From: Amos
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 05:05 PM

Well, Merry Winterval from a chronilogically endowed, cerebrally-cholesterol-gifted modernity-challenged, stimulus-response characteristic!!

TRANS: Mery Christmas from an old, fatheaded, old-fashioned jerk!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: greg stephens
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 05:50 PM

Dont you mean 12/25, Orac?


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 06:12 PM

Beautiful, Greg! :-)

Jerry


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: Gareth
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 06:59 PM

Then there is this one I will treasure - An advert for a Chaufer for the "Lord Mayor of Canterbury", if required the application form was available in brail.

Emmmm !

Gareth


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: Amos
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 07:11 PM

Well, his seeing eye dog was a whippet!

A


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 07:13 PM

Not as daft as you'd think - wives, husbands, mothers and fathers often often put in a lot of effort searching out possible job opportunities for their loved ones, including checking out the application forms.


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: Joe Offer
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 07:25 PM

I'm all for sensitivity in language, but this isn't what's happening. Those who seek "political correctness" seem to want to cleanse European and American culture of their European and American roots, for fear that the traditions of the majority might be offensive to a minority.
I'm all for a diverse culture that celebrates a wide variety of cultural traditions, but I see no need for an "ethnic cleansing" that removes things like Christmas from our culture.
Merry Christmas, everybody.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 09:20 PM

I love getting Divali Cards and Hannukah cards and so forth, and I assume that Hindus and Jews and so forth like getting Christmas Cards. Things like that are part of friendship, of fellowship.

"Fellowship is life, lack of fellowship is death" as William Morris said.


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: Mr Happy
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 09:23 PM

happi bithday, amos


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: Janice in NJ
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 09:36 PM

Well, I'm a free thinker and I am offended by any and all state sponsored religious observances. But as some smart-ass Palestinian Jewish bisexual once said, "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's," and the so-called Christian world long ago handed Christmas over to Caesar. So here's one free thinker who doesn't give a flying fig.


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: leprechaun
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 09:41 PM

In my City we are forbidden to put up Christmas trees or angels in City offices, so as not offend persons of diverse cultures. This is just one of many oppressions visited upon us by the polically correct.


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: GUEST
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 09:52 PM

It's nothing to do with PC. The antichrist is upon us but, as it was in the time of Noah...


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: BK
Date: 12 Sep 02 - 11:39 PM

Anti-christ? Or merely pro-stupidity?

Cheers, BK


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: bdatki
Date: 13 Sep 02 - 12:05 AM

Both BK.

By the way, Janice in NJ, Christ was not a Palestinian. That name came about after the Romans decided they'd had enough of the Jews fighting for their freedom, sacked the country, and renamed Provincia Judaea "Provincia Syria Palestina" to try to wash away the connection to the Jews. This was in 135 AD. Then when the Arabs invaded the region, they called it Filasteen (there are no "p's" in Arabic). He probably wouldn't have considered himself a member of any nation, except God's.

I also have a problem with some of your other assertions, but there's no need to go into that.


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: Orac
Date: 13 Sep 02 - 05:31 AM

Mr Stephens ... If you are refering to another thread.. dates like 12/25 or 25/12 are not going to be misunderstood. You know darn will this is not the case with 11/9 or 9/11.


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: greg stephens
Date: 13 Sep 02 - 07:05 AM

Yes, I do believe I was referring to another thread.


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: GUEST,Fred Miller
Date: 13 Sep 02 - 10:01 AM

A Jewish friend of mine always seemed a bit ambivalent about the Jewish religion, there were odd things, like her belief in the shroud of Turin. (When people ask me how I was raised I have to say "as a science experiment.") But after my friend moved away we wondered what sort of card to send. We tried to find the right pc phrase, gave up, and settled on "Happy Holidays, Christ-killer!" which worked fine. Denoument: Later she told us she'd become an Episcopalian. And I once met the man who did the first scientific appraisal of the shroud of Turin. He has a lab south of Chicago.


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: Orac
Date: 13 Sep 02 - 10:15 AM

I'm always amused by this phrase "Happy Holidays" .. I prefer to take my holidays in the summer when its warm.


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: leprechaun
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 12:55 AM

I'm offended that you would say "Holidays." The word obviously is a combination of "Holy Days," and therefore denotes an archaic religious (and therefore paternalistic and oppressive) belief that something can be "holy." Why can't you learn to be more like Fred Miller, and just take a little extra care to be sensitive to other people's feelings?


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: bdatki
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 01:04 AM

Hah, good one leprechaun. At least, I hope your kidding. I can never tell with liberals :)


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: GUEST,HelenJ
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 03:53 AM


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: Orac
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 07:35 AM

I hope so too.........


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: Janice in NJ
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 10:55 AM

The Romans didn't create the name Palestina out of their own imagination. The came from the name of the peoples who had long inhabitted the region, the Philistines.


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: leprechaun
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 11:19 AM

I'm certainly kidding. But I stole that whole tirade from people who were serious. You know who they are. They're the same sniveling snots who are constantly whining, "Waaah, Dubya stole the election."


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: Amos
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 01:38 PM

So the politically correct response is, "Yes, he did, but it was long ago, and he's not going to do it again, so we'll just forget it....". I suppose?

Maybe "steal" is too harsh a word -- actually he was just morals-challenged and graft-gifted, eh?

A


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 01:47 PM

If you put up with people telling you can't have Christmas trees or angels you're putting up with being pushed around by jobsworths. Tell them to piss off. Be a mensch.

Anyway Christmas trees are pagan more than they are Christian, and Angels are just as much Jewish and Muslim as they are Christian. Hindu as well for that matter. I suppose that leaves the committed atheists out in th cold, but they can have a happy time feeling above all this seasonal foolishness, and get plastered on New Year's Eve..


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: Gareth
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 02:33 PM

Actally Kevin, in the bad old days when PC ruled the Party (try 1980's) we had one ultra correct Secretary. You know, rename Manchester Personchester.

Enuf was enough !! - A smokey back room job in the Whitstable Labour Party Club. Number three sisters Dog was equipped with a Party Card (Female Mongrel) and nominated as a suitable candidate for office, her sole qualification was her sex.

The PC brigade did not read the small print on the CV and "Shena" the mongrel bitch was acepted as a suitable candidate for Councillor in any of the wards in Canterbury.

Laugh - Tears ran down my trouswer legs

And if Ferret or any of the Whitstable or Herne Bay 'catters read this, Max in the East Kent, or Councillor Brian Hunter can vouch for the accuracy of this.

Gareth


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 05:50 PM

Did she get elected? After all Hartlepool elected a monkey as mayor. (But then they vote for Peter Mandelson up there, so that's not too surprising.)


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: Gareth
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 06:39 PM

No Kevin - The Ward members spotted the dog. The PC brigade did not.

Actually if we had ran her as a Candidate ??????

Gareth


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 14 Sep 02 - 06:46 PM

I reckon she'd have romped home. I reckon a good dog would beat any human with the English voters, if the returning oficer could be stopped from interfering.


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 04:29 PM

May this non sectarian person of no particular race or sexual inclination wish anyone who wishes to receive these wishes, with no legal commitment to enjoy the wishes rendered , a happy or, conversely if required, an unhappy, season of whatever year or whichever measure of time they wish to commiy to.

Hmmmm. Must have offended someone...;-)

DtG


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: leprechaun
Date: 15 Sep 02 - 09:35 PM

Dave the Gnome - Mind if I borrow that for our official city greeting cards?


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Subject: RE: BS: PC madness
From: Kim C
Date: 16 Sep 02 - 12:38 PM

I am perfectly happy for everyone to observe their own holiday however they see fit, as long as I too can do the same. I mean, look here, haven't we all lived together fairly well (I didn't say completely well, but fairly well) for a while now? When I was a kid I don't recall anyone harping about this stuff. In the 4th grade we had a holiday program, in the Public School, thank you very much, and we had a Christmas part and a Hanukkah part. (In Tennessee in 1977, that was pretty much all there was.) And one could argue, these were educational presentations, and perfectly acceptable in a public school setting.

I'm all for everyone displaying the symbols of their holidays. Everyone, from Muslim to Christian to Jew to Whomever. I like learning about what other people do. I too believe we can have some diversity without any ethnic cleansing. We could all be friends if a few of these self-proclaimed "leaders" would just get out of our freakin way and leave us alone.

My boss is Jewish. Mister and I went to her home once for Hanukkah dinner. We had a great time. She loves to sing Christmas songs, by the way, simply because she likes music.

I sort of like the old Seinfeld idea of "Festivus." Sounds more like a celebration than "Winterval."


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