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Subject: Elastics
From: selby
Date: 24 Apr 02 - 02:34 PM

I don't know if this was a UK thing or a world thing, can anyone remember playing elastics. Where loads of elastic bands where joined together to make a loop and then 2 people stood with them round their ankles whilst the 3rd jumped in and out. What where the rhymes that went with it? and what where the moves that where done? This is a serious bit of research for a teacher. Keith


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Subject: RE: BS: Elastics
From: Hollowfox
Date: 24 Apr 02 - 02:48 PM

I've seen something similar sold in the USA as a "Chinese Jumprope", where a large cloth covered elastic loop is stretched out by two players for a third to jump over (I think). This may be a distant cousin, more than the same thing. Good luck with your project.


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Subject: RE: BS: Elastics
From: Jeanie
Date: 24 Apr 02 - 03:05 PM

Yes ! This is obviously a day for reminiscing (see TV series thread). This game is still being played. The rhyme I remember and also currently chanted in the Essex area is: "England - Ireland - Scotland - Wales; Outside - Inside - ON !" You have to loop the elastic around your ankles and cross right foot over left, then left foot over right, then release the elastic and jump outside the lines, then inside the lines, then on top of them.

A good book with all kinds of playground games, rhymes etc. is by a couple named Opie.


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Subject: RE: BS: Elastics
From: Mrrzy
Date: 24 Apr 02 - 03:15 PM

I played that in French school as a child; I've never seen Americans play it. The French and the Africans still play it - but I can't recall any of the rhymes, which wouldn't have been in English anyway...


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Subject: RE: BS: Elastics
From: weepiper
Date: 24 Apr 02 - 03:17 PM

We had a similar rhyme for this game at primary school in East Lothian (Scotland) 15 or 20 years ago, except ours went "Scotland, England, Ireland, Wales, don't step on the monkeys' tails, England, Ireland, Scotland, France..." and I don't remember the next line...there was an 'Inside, outside, on!' bit too I think but I can't remember how it goes together. As for moves, the jumper would start to one side of the rubber bands and on the first word of the chant would jump both feet inside the bands, then on the next word jump both feet out the other side, and back the same way, then jump both feet inside on "don't", both feet outside (one on each side) on the "on", both inside on the "monkeys'" and finish both feet on the rubber bands on "tails".


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Subject: RE: BS: Elastics
From: Morticia
Date: 24 Apr 02 - 06:59 PM

Oh God......it was SO long ago, but there was a rhyme we did to elastics ( to follow ).We used knicker elastic as I recall...I'm so sorry that's all I remember but when you get to my age, that's doing pretty well *BG*

By the window stands a lady Whatshe wants I cannot tell All she wants is gold and silver All she wants is a nice young man


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Subject: RE: BS: Elastics
From: Hrothgar
Date: 24 Apr 02 - 08:16 PM

And how did you keep your knickers up while ALL this was going on?

:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Elastics
From: catspaw49
Date: 24 Apr 02 - 09:24 PM

I remember it as Hollowfox does....Chinese Jump Rope. I seem to recall some rhyming stuff too but at this age I haven't got a clue! But when I see an old friend who I remember played the game a lot, I'll ask her.

HOWEVER.....If you use "knicker elastic" you should NOT have any celery around anywhere as it will have a deleterious effect on knicker elastic. Hey...I ain't lying about this!!! CLICK HERE and Check It Out!!!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Elastics
From: aussiebloke
Date: 24 Apr 02 - 09:33 PM

The game of elastics was played in Australian schoolgrounds in the 1960's - either with a length of elastic, or with rubber bands joined together. It was played almost exclusively by females, consequently I recall none of the songs/chants that accompanied the game.

Picture of Aussie kids playing elastics.

and, err, yep - I did make that web-site...

Happy ANZAC Day

aussiebloke


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Subject: RE: BS: Elastics
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 25 Apr 02 - 01:31 PM

Had a look at the instruction leaflet on ours at school today and it included a rhyme beginning Inky Pinky Ponky but I forgot to bring it home. I will remember tomorrow and e mail you the rhyme and a scan of the leaflet.


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Subject: RE: BS: Elastics
From: MMario
Date: 25 Apr 02 - 01:40 PM

I remember it as chinese jumprope as well - and we did use rubber bands looped together at times.


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Subject: RE: BS: Elastics
From: weepiper
Date: 25 Apr 02 - 02:07 PM

Morticia, we sang that rhyme for clapping games:

On a mountain stands a lady
Where it is I do not know,
All she wants is gold and silver
All she wants is a nice young man.

Another good book on this subject in general is "Golden City: Scottish Children's Street Games And Songs" by James T.R. Ritchie.


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Subject: RE: BS: Elastics
From: swirlygirl
Date: 25 Apr 02 - 02:38 PM

Elastics:

Rhyme: Jingle Jangle Silver Bangle Inside Outside Inside STAMP!

Two people stood at either end with a loop of tied elastic bands rounds their legs; first at their ankles, then knees, then waist, then "oxter" if your Scottish", then neck...

I used to love that...

Does everyone remember playing balls though (now now...calm down!) Two balls and you used to throw them against a wall doing different things and singing different rhymes to them?

:)

xxx


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Subject: RE: BS: Elastics
From: Helen
Date: 25 Apr 02 - 08:43 PM

We used to play this in Australia in the 60's. Maybe you were there, aussiebloke?? Oh, you are up in Darwin, so unlikely, eh?

My sister and I were part of the folk process in bringing elastics to Maitland (NSW country town) from Sydney. We went down to Sydney to visit our cousins and one of them taught us how to play elastics. I remember saying that it sounded pretty silly when she described it to us, but we ended up getting hooked on it after a short time. We got our friends back home hooked on it too, and then we taught it to a girl from another school and she taught it to her friends. After a short time we would see kids everywhere playing it. The game started out fairly easy but got harder as the elastic was moved higher and higher up. We used knicker elastic, not rubber bands.

Helen


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Subject: RE: BS: Elastics
From: JennieG
Date: 25 Apr 02 - 08:52 PM

Mrs Duck,
I remember Inky Pinky Ponky, daddy bought a donkey, donkey died, daddy cried, inky pinky ponky. We didn't play elastic though, we used that one for skipping or clapping games.
Cheers
JennieG


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Subject: RE: BS: Elastics
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 25 Apr 02 - 09:20 PM

I had never seen it in the states until the immigrants from S.E. Asia came..the girls would collect rubber bands and do it on the playground..they were quite graceful and athletic at it.. mg


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Subject: RE: BS: Elastics
From: catspaw49
Date: 25 Apr 02 - 09:22 PM

I know it was in the states long before that because Mark's sisters that I mentioned above played it as "Chinese Jump Rope" in the 50's....and this was a small town in eastern Ohio, not exactly the first place it would have popped up!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Elastics
From: catspaw49
Date: 25 Apr 02 - 09:38 PM

And I am telling you people, keep the celery away from the elastic!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: Elastics
From: selby
Date: 26 Apr 02 - 03:11 PM

What where the ball rhymes and the skipping rhymes and did they all mix? We used to do balls against the wall, twosis I think and there was as I remember some complicated patterns. Keith


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Subject: RE: BS: Elastics
From: JudeL
Date: 27 Apr 02 - 07:04 AM

Some of the 'lastics games got progressively more difficult in one move I remember you had to hook up the bit nearest you with your feet as you jumped over the one furthest away making a triangle, then turn as you jumped to face one of the pair who were holding it with their ankles forming a diamond, jump around to face the other one of the pair without letting the elastic go, then jump up deliberately letting the elastic go and landing with one foot on each of the lines. There was a couple of rhymes that went with both this and another pattern, one was something about "going over the ocean, and what do I see" and had something about catching fish but after all this time I can't remember what. One skipping rhyme I remember was :
I'm a little bubble car,
my number's forty eight,
I live around the cooooooooorner,(at which point, with the rope still being swung you'd jump out run around one of those swinging the rope and jump back in)
and I forgot to shut the gate. (you were supposed to time it so on the word gate you deliberately jumped to land with one foot either side of the rope trapping it)


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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: Joe Offer
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 12:28 AM

Yes, the Opies have a lot to say about the subject, and I think it's worth quoting in entirety. My wife Christina says she called it "Chinese Jumprope" when she was growing up in Woonsocket, Rhode Island - and she claims to have been very good at it.
-Joe Offer-

ELASTIC SKIPPING

This is not skipping in the usual sense, for there is no turning rope to jump. Instead, the two enders stand with feet apart inside a loop of elastic, which passes round their ankles and is thus stretched into a long oblong frame between them. The role of the enders is completely static, and their place can be taken by dustbins or chairs. The performer stands sideways to the stretched elastic, usually with the elastic to her right, and goes through a series of actions. She lifts the farther strand of the elastic over the nearer strand with the pointed toe of her right foot, whilst hopping on her left foot, and passes it across the other strand and back again so many times. Then she jumps into the frame, facing the long way, jumps her feet apart and lands with feet either side of the frame, jumps feet inside together again, jumps so that her feet land on the two strands of elastic, brings them inside together again, and so on, sometimes with the strands crossed, according to the local sequence. When she has performed all the movements without a mistake the elastic is raised to calf height; then it is raised to knees, thighs, and finally waist. (Claims that the sequence can be performed with the elastic round the enders' necks can probably be discounted; indeed, one girl said 'When it's that height you don't do jumps you just do cartwheels over it.') The common impression is that the game looks 'like a giant cat's cradle'.
        In the summer of 1960 elastic skipping arrived in England as 'an entirely new game', and was for eighteen months, apparently, the exclusive possession of London children. 'This year's craze', said a 10-year-old girl in Fulham, 'is American Skipping. Karen Clark brought American Skipping over from America.' In playgrounds all over London little girls could be seen with their heads bent over the fiddling task of joining a packet of elastic bands into a long loop, or going through the dance-like steps of the game, which is as dainty, and in some ways as skilful, as the Scottish sword-dance, and has a similar look.'
        However, when a powerful craze comes over from the United States there is not one point of entry but many. American families coming to London undoubtedly brought the game with them; but so did American Air Force families coming to bases in England and Scotland. For instance, when 'Chinese Ropes' was the rage in Dunoon Grammar School in 1962, about fifty of the girls in the school were from the nearby American Air Force base. 'Chinese Ropes' (or 'Rope', or 'Ropies', or 'Skipping'), reflecting the American name 'Chinese Jump Rope', continued to be the term in Scotland (e.g. Jedburgh, 1972; Glasgow and Paisley, 1975).
        Elastic skipping spread rapidly in 1963-4. There could scarcely have been a junior school playground in Britain where it was not known. 'French Skipping' was now the most usual name in England and Wales, though Londoners remained faithful to 'American Skipping'. (Any foreign name was felt to be appropriate, however: e.g. 'Dutch Skipping' in Liss, 1964; and 'German Skipping' in Bedford, 1966.) By the mid-197os the predominant name was simply 'Elastics', and the game is still, in the 1990s, known by that name. Correspondents followed the game's progress with excitement: a teacher in St Helier, Jersey, said: 'Linda, who sent you "American Skipping" in November [1963] tells me she learnt the game in Hampstead "a few years back"; a parish priest in Workington wrote 'Chinese, or French, skipping went round Workington like wild fire this Easter [1964], and I know that it had hit Liverpool and Preston before last Christmas.' The actions began to vary. The original starting-sequence of lifting one strand a number of times across the other faded away (though remaining in the London version) and the sequence in which the player jumps directly onto the elastic strands became more important and was carried out in different modes, such as 'Bouncy' (with a rebound after each jump), and 'Hopsy' (landing on one foot inside the frame instead of both). A further development was known as 'Diamonds', 'which is really complicated'. The performer crosses the elastic band with her feet and proceeds to jump round inside a 'diamond'. Then she jumps out of the diamond so that both feet finish up outside the rectangle as the elastic is released. Finally, she jumps back into the rectangle. The complete sequence for 'Norwegian Skipping' at Grove, near Wantage, in 1963, was:
  • 1. Jump in between the elastic strands.
  • 2. Jump on the elastic.
  • 3. Jump in again.
  • 4. Jump astride, outside the elastic.
  • 5. Turn to face the other way, taking the elastic between the ankles.
  • 6. Jump up, doing 'scissors', freeing the elastic and landing in the middle again.
  • 7. Jump out to one side.
  • 8. Facing the strands, take the nearest elastic, resting on the feet, to overlap the far elastic.
  • 9. Turn round, take one foot out, place it on the spot where the two elastics cross. Do the same with the other foot.
  • 10. Jump in the middle.
  • 11. Jump right out. This is done 'Oneses' (round ankles), 'Twoses' (round mid-calf), and 'Threeses' (round knees).

        In the early 1960s the enders might chant 'In, out, in, out, In, in, in out' as the jumps were made; but as the game developed, or perhaps as the children grew bored with the game as it was, they began to adorn it with a miscellany of borrowed rhymes: the all-purpose 'Roses are red, Violets are blue' was used (Worsley, Staffordshire, 1969); and some old counting-out rhymes, such as, 'Mary at the cottage gate, Eating cherries off a plate, Two, four, six, eight,' and 'Inky pinky ponky, Daddy bought a donkey, Donkey died, Daddy cried, Inky pinky ponky.' 'Queen, Queen Caroline' was revised: 'Kathy, Kathy, Kathaleen, Washed her hair in ~ Windowlene keeps it clean, Kathy, Kathy Kathaleen' (Montrose, 1974). Other words are: 'Jingle, jangle, centre, spangle, Jingle, jangle, out' (Notting Hill Gate, London, 1976); 'England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Inside, outside, donkeys' tails' (Birmingham, 1977, and other places); and 'When you do "Double Diamond", said a 9-year-old in Dulwich, 'which is when there's one bar up here and the other down there, and it's twisted over and you've got to jump over the twist, there's a special rhyme that advertises beer':

Double Diamond works wonders,
Works wonders, works wonders,
Double Diamond works wonders,
So drink one today.

The strangest rigmarole came from North Hinksey, on the outskirts of Oxford, in 1985: 'Itchy me, star shee, Logo hutsy yutsy. - kill it', and the game was called 'Itchy me'.
        The game reached other countries too. It arrived in Israel in 1960 ('Gummi', Eifermann (1968), 218-20). In Australia it had certainly arrived by 1962, when Ian Turner saw it in Canberra; 'It was called "American Hoppy",' he said, 'then I saw it no more until 1967 lfl Melbourne, when it was called "Elastics".' Subsequently it was reported in Afghanistan, Austria, the Argentine, Germany, Greece, India, Italy ('Elastici'), Kenya, the Netherlands (1962, when it was called 'the English Twist' or 'the Russian Twist'), Norway ('Hoppe strikk', i.e. 'Jump Elastics'), Turkey, and Yugoslavia-so it would be safe to say it had become worldwide.
        When Patricia Carpenter interviewed schoolgirls in Reno, Nevada, in 1964, the 14-17-year-olds had never heard of the game, but the 9-13year-olds said, 'Oh, you mean Chinese Jump Rope, we play it all the time.' A Chinese-American io-year-old, born in Nevada, said 'I learned it from my mother who was born in China'; and another io-year-old, new in Nevada from California, said 'I learned it from a very old Chinese lady who said she used to play it in the alleys in China.' It seemed that 'Chinese Jump Rope' really did come from the Orient.
        A correspondent of ours played 'Chinese Skipping' out in Hong Kong in 1956, at an army school and also after school with Chinese children. Another correspondent, who was in Beijing in 1963-4, said the game was so popular there that 'you couldn't walk along the street without seeing it'. She was told that it had come to north China during the time of the Japanese occupation, 1938-45. Another correspondent, who had lived in Tokyo for many years, tried to find out whether elastic skipping was known in Japan before 1938. She said (August 1976):

I have yet to find anyone over 60 who knows the game. People in their forties and younger seem to know it as a matter of course, and it appears to have been played to the rhythm of many different popular songs over the past few decades. One contemporary of mine, born in Nagasaki in 1940, recalls being a 'nuisance' when her elder sisters were playing it, before the end of the war. The song they sang was a rather jingoistic battle air, left over from the Russo-Japanese conflict. Another song current in the northern Kanto district in the 1950S was more fanciful, something about a golden carriage with silver bells.

This still does not prove whether the game began in Japan or China, and although our earliest evidence is from China, from someone who played the game in Shanghai in 1935, it was tempered by the remark that 'the Japanese had already begun to infiltrate then'. It almost seems
as if the game sprang up simultaneously in both countries in the mid-1930s.
        In their traditional games, Oriental children need agile feet as well as dextrous hands (in their game of kicking a shuttlecock, for instance). A game called 'Awakening Giant', similar in appearance to elastic skipping, was glimpsed briefly in a television film on China ('made recently', March 1975). Two children squatted about 6 feet apart, with a rope in each hand. They crossed hands while a third child jumped in and out of the ropes. Once the rope was trodden on, the giant awoke, the child fled, and it was someone else's turn. The game was said to have been played by old Chinese ladies in their youth. Another game is played with bamboo sticks, and is known to have been brought to the USA and Great Britain by Philippino immigrants, though descriptions are tantalizingly few. Two long bamboo sticks are laid parallel on the ground, and two similar sticks are laid across them, also parallel. The ends of the topmost sticks are held by two people, crouching or kneeling, who tap them alternately onto the lower sticks and against each other, in time to music. Two dancers move in and out of the moving sticks, and if they are caught between the sticks as they close together, they are out. These two games probably represent the tradition that engendered elastic skipping.

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From Children's Games With Things, Iona & Peter Opie, 1997 (Oxford University Press)


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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: Emma B
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 06:06 AM

Too old to have played elastics but certainly played the game described above using two ropes - we called it French skipping. A couple of weeks ago I was reminiscing about skipping games and rhymes with a friend originally from the Manchester area. The game we were talking about was "bumps" where the rope was turned twice, very fast.We skipped with a length of plastic covered washing line which could develop quite a 'whip' and hurt like hell if you didn't develop skills quickly enough. Between us we remembered a few rhymes (with interesting variations) I think the bottle of red wine was a big help! I also remember playing twosies with balls against a wall - our version was played in order of increasing difficulty.


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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: alison
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 09:53 AM

we used elastic bands and called it "German jumps"

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: selby
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 10:22 AM

Little Mo what where the rhymes? Keith


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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: pict
Date: 28 Apr 02 - 01:24 PM

My daughter just got a fancy modern cloth covered elastic not like the multi coloured collection of elastics the girls used when I was at school.It seems to have died out in Scotland along with playing balls where a girl would bounce tennis balls or similar sized balls off the ground and walls at different speeds and in different patterns while reciting rhymes.


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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: selby
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 01:01 PM

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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 29 Apr 02 - 01:10 PM

We always called it French skipping but when I used to teach in Rochdale the game was particularly popular amongst the Asian (mainly Pakistani) girls.


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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: GUEST
Date: 23 Jan 04 - 07:57 PM

We played Chinese jumprope at school in Louisiana back in the 70's. I don't remember the rhymes though. It was very popular.


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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: freda underhill
Date: 23 Jan 04 - 08:51 PM

we played it in my primary school in Canberra (North Ainslie primary),in the mid 60s and called it elastics.

i remember

Scotland, England, Ireland, Wales,
don't step on the monkeys' tails,
England, Ireland, Scotland, France
don't step on the monkeys' pants...

and we used all sorts of other rhymes with it as well.

there was another thread recently on skipping & clapping games that mentioned elestics as well - i've just had a look but couldn't find it - Joybell & Bob Bolton would know.

freda


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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: GUEST,Doris
Date: 27 Oct 04 - 06:12 PM

I also remember a Mississippi rhyme where you did a different move for the letters that spell M-I-S-S-I-S-S-I-P-P-I.

M- Jump into the square with both feet
I- Straddle the two elastics
S- Straddle one elastic
S- Straddle the other elastic
I- same as above
S- same as above
S- same as above
I- same as above
P- jump on both elastics
P- jump on both
I- same as above

* you basically do the same move for letters


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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: GUEST,shortly2@shaw.ca
Date: 07 Nov 04 - 05:24 PM

Does anybody remember any other rhymes? I lived in Toronto, Ontario, Canada as a child. One of my best friends went to Florida and came back with the elastic game. She also brought a rhyme with her, but for the life of me, I can't find anything related to it.

I don't know how accurate it is, and I certainly am guessing at the words, but here they are as I remember them.

Yoka ana Tysa
Yoka ninety-ay
Tang in de soeboy
Sooey sooey ay

I know. It doesn't make any sense to me either, but we all sang it. Probably the words are all gibbled up, but this is the phoenitic version.


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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: GUEST,firínne
Date: 07 Nov 04 - 09:46 PM

It was called American skipping when we played it in school in Liverpool in the 60's. We also played French skipping with 2 ropes. Can't remember any of the rhymes though!


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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: GUEST,val
Date: 10 Nov 04 - 02:46 PM

Hi from Toronto Canada!

I was just talking about this game with my in-laws on the weekend. I grew up in Montreal where we played religiously at recess, afterschool , in the evening...basically whenever we could. I'm 35 now
and my in-laws (from Iran!) also played this game! Its a worldwide thing I guess based on this forum.

Anyway if I could get two other people to play today I would, 'cause we were in great shape back then!!

Ciao


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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: GUEST,Emma Campbell
Date: 15 Nov 04 - 10:42 PM

I'm 21 years old now. I'm from christchurch New Zealand and as a child in 1995 at primary School elastics was a hit game at lunch time. I've just pulled my old elastics out of a old box, and enticing my curiousity I decided to look on the net for info. I remember the "ankles, knees, hips elastics game" and the "inky pinky ponky" aswell! It's amazing to know that it was a world wide thing, and that looking on the net has bought up such a excess of interesting info from others!


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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: GUEST,cathy
Date: 23 Feb 05 - 03:53 AM

I remember playing 'elastics' at school in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia in the early seventies. I now teach year seven in Perth, Western Australia. Reading all your entries has reminded me of it. I'm taking my year sevens away for camp next week & I'll teach them - maybe I can get a few children away from the television in the future.

Thanks


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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: GUEST,Qld After School Care
Date: 12 May 05 - 06:28 PM


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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: LadyJean
Date: 12 May 05 - 11:48 PM

Boys and girls played Chinese Jumpropes at Whightman school in the mid sixties. A Chinese jump rope could be a cloth covered elastic you bought somewhere, or a chain of what we Pittsburghers call "Gum Bands", and the rest of the U.S. calls rubber bands. I remember it as a sort of giant cats cradle, where the jumper tried to make patterns with the elastic, double diamonds, etc. I don't remember any sort of rhymes going with it.
I do remember a regular jump rope rhyme,
Cinderella dressed in yella went downtown to see her fella
On the way her girdle busted, how many people were disgusted.
One, two three four............


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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 13 May 05 - 11:39 PM

My sister used to play Chinese jump rope with her friends, in Philadelphia, early 60's (she was born in 1956). I always assumed that it was no more "Chinese" than a "Chinese fire drill," but then I recently saw a movie made in China about China in the 30's (can't remember which one) and there were girls playing...Chinese jump rope. Those girls, like my sister, used rubber bands tied together. (Nobody would buy a cloth-covered something from a store when you could make the "rope" yourself, and there were so many other things to spend your fifteen cents on.) I think they cut the rubber bands before they tied them, but I wouldn't swear to that.

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Sep 05 - 12:12 AM

does anyone know more routines and tricks as such? if so please reply mum just bought us a n elastic for us and we need a bit of guidance


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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: Bard Judith
Date: 26 Sep 05 - 08:58 PM

Some dim fragments from my far-off childhood:


Eeny meeny pepsi seeny
Alabama, boo!
Hoochie kootchie, donna loochie,
OUT GOES YOU!   

(This was obviously a counting-out rhyme, with 'nonsense' words - though some have theorized that such gibberish is actually a phonetic rendering of actual words in an unfamiliar language, distorted by oral transmission... anybody here want to take a stab at that theory?)




Had a little car, nineteen-(sixty)-eight,
Went around the
Coooooooooorrrrrrrrr-ner,
Slammed on the brakes!
Brakes wouldn't work,
Bumped into a lady,
Bumped into a man,
Bumped into a policeman,
Man o man!
Policeman caught me, put me in jail,
All I had to drink was ginger ale!
How many bottles did I drink? (count up while skipping Pepper)



(Susan) and (Johnny) sittin' in a tree
K I S S I N G
First comes love, then comes marriage,
Then comes (Johnny) with the baby carriage!

(Everyone has doubtless heard that one. Here's a more risque variant I heard at the Kiwanis Boys and Girls Club in Hamilton, Canada, about twelve years ago...)

(Susan) and (Johnny) sittin' in a car
Are they nekkid? Yes they are!
The car goes ZOOM! (Johnny) goes BOOM!
That's how they got together so soon!



"Say say my playmate, come out and play with me" was popular for both skipping, clapping, and elastic games.

And finally, there was "In the land of Oz" which was also multipurpose.


In the land of Oz
where the ladies smoke cigars
Every puff they take
is enough to kill a snake
When the snakes are dead
they put roses in their head
When the roses die
They put diamonds in their eye
When the diamonds break
It is nineteen-(sixty)-eight!

This of course had its own risque variant: "In the land of Oz / where the ladies don't wear bras / but the men don't care / cause they don't wear underwear!"


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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Sep 05 - 09:28 PM

I'm originally from Northern Ireland and we played this game in the 1960's. We called it german jumping. I can't remember if we used rhymes or not. We used coloured elastic bands and part of the fun was knotting them together to make the elastics.


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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: Mo the caller
Date: 01 Oct 05 - 06:27 AM

I was interested to read the Opie quote, it ties in with my memories. I left junior school in 1954 and we didn't play it. My sister learnt it sometime between '56 & '61, it was played with linked elastic bands (the last one must have been tied but they weren't cut). Of course you had to find and collect the bands first but collecting was another craze (in our day it was silver paper or bits of coloured fluff picked from peoples cardigans and pressed into a mat).We lived in Middlesex (W. London) and it was called American Skipping then. By the time my daughters went to school in Cheshire in the 1980s it was called Elastics and done with a length of elastic knicker (which you had to buy). Cloth covered elastic takes this to a further stage of affluence, is this American?
Has the teacher who started all this seen the English Folk Dance & Song Society book John Kanakaka about using childrens traditional rhymes as a teaching resource? In fact has anyone and what do they think of it?


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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: Azizi
Date: 01 Oct 05 - 03:39 PM

See this link for a Mudcat thread on Counting out rhymes.


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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: Bizibod
Date: 01 Oct 05 - 07:15 PM

T'was called Chinese skipping in Nottingham in 1964 and we used knicker elastic which got shorter and more knotted as it wore through , and used to saw into the back of your knees on kneesies.
We also used to play this ball game with a ball inside a stocking. You stood with your back against the wall and swung it across your body left to right, above your head and between your legs. Used to drive my mum mad doing it on the side of the house because the rhythmic thumping made the plates jump and the windows rattle. There was a rhyme to it only fragments of which I can recall:
       Have a cigarette sir,
       Yes sir, no sir,
       something something something
       Because I have a cold sir
       Where d'you get your cold sir?
       From the North Pole sir,
       What you doing there sir?
       Catching Polar Bear sir
and I'm sure there was more,anybody recognise it?


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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: GUEST,duece
Date: 11 May 06 - 07:40 PM

I'm now 30, so back in ...1985 or so, we used to play "Chinese Skipping" all the time at recess. We had pretty, colourful, bought elastics, or just used a length of regular elastic (the kind used for sewing waistbands, etc. - is that 'knicker' elastic?).

I'm from little-town-Saskatchewan, Canada, so this 'sport' really has been around, hasn't it?! The most I (and friends) can recall is there being about 15 steps, and the term Mississippi also rings a bell. It is above in the thread. Thanks for that reminder.

Two people would hold the elastic on the ends, and all others took turns. Everyone did 'jump #1' (or 'M'). If you all did it, then you all moved on to the next round. Then the first person would start again (now 'jump 2'), and would have to perform the steps from jump 1 & 2 (so do 'M' & 'I') in succession. If, at any time, you messed up a jump, you were out. You tried to get through all of the steps, obviously, without making a mistake.

The steps we did were similar to those in the "Mississippi" steps above, but I'm sure that each of the 11 steps was different (none was repeated). I'll have to get together with some old girlfriends this summer, and we'll try to figure them out (we're all teachers now, so might be able to get together over summer break).

If ANYONE else knows any more STEPS, that would be great... I am planning to teach my kids at school.   The Opie link above was also good. Thank you.


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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: GUEST,amie
Date: 15 May 06 - 10:31 AM

in Yorkshire, UK the girls in the primary school i teach at still play elastics but they call it french skipping, im desperate 2 find them new rhymes as all they ever sing is
england
ireland
scotland
wales
inside outside inside on!

and im getting a pro at that one now (though cant do it when they get 2 the thighs, not as fit as i was when i was 7!)

also, the complex sequence for double ball twosies was
plainy (just throwing the ball)
over (throwing the ball overhand)
upsies (essentially juggling)
dropsy (letting the ball bounce once b4 u catch it)
slamsy (bouncing the ball against the floor b4 it hits the wall)
legsy (bouncing it under 1 leg)
rainbow (bouncing it under the other leg)
archy bouncing it through both legs with both feet on the floor0

u had to do 5 of each then 4 then 3 then 2 then 1
if u dropped it halfway through the cycle, say u were doing 3s but dropped it on slamsy then u had 2 start ur 3s again from plainy

god how sad am i?!?!?


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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: GUEST,thurg
Date: 16 May 06 - 12:26 AM

I find it interesting that this game was (is?) so widespread. For one or two or three years when I was a kid in the '60's, in Windsor, Ontario, this game was very popular among the girls at our school. They called it "Yogi", which I suspect was a name applied by the marketer of the glorified underwear waistband that was the sole piece of gear required.

I'll have to ask my sister if she remembers any of the rhymes.

There was another popular game played with a sponge ball in the toe of a nylon stocking - the girl would wail the ball against the wall behind her, over and under and between her legs (not necessarily in that order), while reciting "A sailor went to sea, sea, sea,/To see what he could see, see, see;/But all that he could see, see, see,/Was the bottom of the bright blue sea, sea, sea." Quite a feat, if you ask me. (I assume this is the same game that one or two people mentioned above somewhere).


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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: GUEST,Jason Delaney
Date: 18 May 06 - 06:25 PM

I looked this game up on google as I can remember the girls & some boys playing this at school. What amazes me though is my daughter is seven years old & she is now showing this game to her friends at school. They think this is a new game( hehehe ).
It looks like the old is becomming new again.


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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: GUEST,GUEST, Merran
Date: 23 Jul 06 - 09:38 PM


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Subject: RE: Child's Game: Elastics
From: Anne Lister
Date: 24 Jul 06 - 03:47 AM

Have a cigarette sir
No Sir
Why Sir
Because I've caught a cold sir
How d'you get your cold sir
In the North Pole Sir
What did you do there sir
Catching Polar bears sir
How many did you get
One, two, three ... until out!

And the two balls against a wall I remember ...might have called it Donkey, for some reason I don't remember. But there were different moves and ways of throwing the balls (which again I don't remember).

Both these memories from Cardiff in the 1960s ..

Anne


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