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Virus alert

McGrath of Harlow 13 Feb 02 - 05:30 AM
McGrath of Harlow 13 Feb 02 - 05:36 AM
Son of the Mill 13 Feb 02 - 06:05 AM
Mark Cohen 13 Feb 02 - 06:36 AM
wysiwyg 13 Feb 02 - 07:40 AM
catspaw49 13 Feb 02 - 08:09 AM
GUEST,YA in Ramallah 13 Feb 02 - 09:36 AM
GUEST 13 Feb 02 - 09:40 AM
Bonnie Shaljean 13 Feb 02 - 09:44 AM
Sorcha 13 Feb 02 - 10:07 AM
wysiwyg 13 Feb 02 - 10:11 AM
katlaughing 13 Feb 02 - 11:52 AM
Roger in Sheffield 13 Feb 02 - 01:00 PM
Clinton Hammond 13 Feb 02 - 01:39 PM
Eric the Viking 13 Feb 02 - 01:50 PM
McGrath of Harlow 13 Feb 02 - 02:28 PM
Mac Tattie 13 Feb 02 - 03:11 PM
Dave the Gnome 13 Feb 02 - 03:46 PM
Roger in Sheffield 13 Feb 02 - 03:51 PM
McGrath of Harlow 13 Feb 02 - 04:22 PM
Sorcha 13 Feb 02 - 04:34 PM
GUEST,Peter from Essex 13 Feb 02 - 04:51 PM
Roger in Sheffield 13 Feb 02 - 05:00 PM
Sorcha 13 Feb 02 - 05:07 PM
Mark Cohen 13 Feb 02 - 05:11 PM
Sorcha 13 Feb 02 - 05:13 PM
McGrath of Harlow 13 Feb 02 - 06:14 PM
katlaughing 13 Feb 02 - 07:32 PM
Snuffy 13 Feb 02 - 08:19 PM
53 13 Feb 02 - 08:33 PM
katlaughing 13 Feb 02 - 09:29 PM
Eric the Viking 14 Feb 02 - 01:48 PM
McGrath of Harlow 14 Feb 02 - 02:09 PM
The Shambles 14 Feb 02 - 02:24 PM
catspaw49 14 Feb 02 - 02:31 PM
McGrath of Harlow 14 Feb 02 - 03:14 PM
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Subject: Virus alert
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 05:30 AM

If anyone gets an email from me entitled "This will be the main centre" with a file attached called throughout.exe, don't touch it. Don't know what it is or does, but it's not from me, and there's some kind of virus involved, and various people in my address book seem to be getting them - I've just had a message back from someone saying "Just had a chance to run Macafee - result:

W32/Magistr.b@MM Virus Found.

And the sounds on my computer have died, which may or may not be connected. Any advice or suggestions welcome.


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 05:36 AM

I've just found this stuff about the virus I've mentioned - it's a link to mcafee: http://www.mcafee.com/anti-virus/viruses/magistr/default.asp?cid=2429

It looks like it would be helpful if I understood it...I'm working at it. It seems quite nasty.


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: Son of the Mill
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 06:05 AM

Try www.avg. com Free anti virus


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 06:36 AM

Kevin, it sounds like you don't have your virus definitions up to date. The Magistr virus has been around for quite a while. You should update your virus definitions at least every week or two, preferably more often. Antivirus software like McAfee or Norton only works if it knows what to look for! Getting a quality anti-virus program and keeping it up to date is not only essential for you, it will also help keep your friends safe as well! As far as the program Kaelac mentioned, I'm not familiar with it but would suspect that you get what you pay for. I don't think antivirus software is the place to shop for bargains. But that's just my opinion. And if you can't figure out the McAfee site, try Norton. I prefer Norton, but only because I've used Norton software since my Epson Equity I days. It's like guitars: I like Martin, you might like Taylor...but I don't think either of us would choose a Harmony.

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 07:40 AM

Computers also may come with AV software, but not be configured to USE it unless you set it up that way. So you need to check what all it is set to check, and how often, and whether you have automatic downloads of virus def updates. In fact many are NOT set to check e-mails automatically!!!

Go figure. You would think it would be the default setting to run itself!

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: catspaw49
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 08:09 AM

Yeah, Mark is right. Link to the Norton site to get info on clearing the virus.....Sorcha just had a big go-round with the same one.

AND....For anyone wanting to really say thanks to Max, CLICK HERE and then Take the Pledge

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: GUEST,YA in Ramallah
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 09:36 AM

My dear friend Kevin McGrath of Harlow,

We have been infected with your virus on some of our computers. Unfortunately, our computer geek is busy wiring bombs for our martyrs.

YA


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 09:40 AM

If McGrath had spent two minutes a day keeping his anti-virus software updated, his friends wouldn't be spending hours dealing with what's been spread from his computer.

Funny, the guy has all the time in the world to pontificate on matters that he knows nothing about, but doesn't have the common decency to protect his friends from his virus.


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 09:44 AM

As has already been pointed out, anti-virus software will protect you from this virus if you keep it updated.


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: Sorcha
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 10:07 AM

This virus seems to mutate with each sending. It won't always have the same thing in the subject line, and it acesses your word files to send out infected messages. Several people got parts of recipes, address lists, etc. from me. If it lookes weird, just dump it. Also, as long as you are on line, (whether your e mail is open or not) this sucker is sending.

I took mine the emergency room to have it cleaned. Didn't even have to re format my machine.


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 10:11 AM

If McGrath's friends are up to date themselves they have nothing to fear.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 11:52 AM

Thank you, Kevin.


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 01:00 PM

Thanks Kev
Guest surely if you have your antivirus upto date you don't have a problem?
Mine nailed it right away
Have you rid yourself of it yet Kev
Try here for details and help Norton W32


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 01:39 PM

I also have, as a back up a link to a really good online scanner...

Lemme see if I can find it...

*sounds of electronic ruffeling*

A-HA!

It's called "Housecall".. let's see if I can rememvber how do do a url...

HOUSECALL

I hope I got that right...

good luck McGrath!


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 01:50 PM

well, I got a mail from you Kevin-not that you know my address! Also one from kate la France-I'd better check, though my Norton A V is always updated and scanning


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 02:28 PM

Eric isn't even in my address book! That would suggest the thing is operating via someone in whose address book we both are. So it could be that the offending emails didn't even come via my computer at all.

I've sorted it now, having re-installed Windows, and now have a purged and penitent computer for Ash Wednesday, free from all unwelcome guests... (The PC froze and would only open in safe mode, so I couldn't get access to the Internet to try to deal with it any other way.)

Funny thing is this seems to have come up soon after I downloaded an upgrade for my McAfee anti-virus stuff. Probably a coincidence. (Yeah, I know it'd make a lot of sense for the anti-virus people to be the same guys who produce the viruses, but I don't really beieve that - and if they were they'd be a lot more sophisticated about it than that.)

I am already extremely cautious with my downloads, and make a practice of not opening attachmnets till I've checked they are actually from the people they say they are from. Now where did I put that CDRom with a spell checker on it...

There's a George Formby parody "Re-installing Windows" (based on "When I'm cleaning windows")- has anybody got the words?


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: Mac Tattie
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 03:11 PM

This is a verry "strange" virus, it will hurl written abuse at you if you use certain leagal words and terms. The best move is, install Norton and keep it up to date. cheers.


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 03:46 PM

My poproxy went into overdrive on this and wouldn't let anything at all through!!! Good ole' Norton eh?

When I eventualy spotted I was getting no mail, only via my NTL account - my others were not affected, I did a manual restart of Norton Mail checker and low and behold - The offending article did appear, apparantly from Kevin, and was instantly removed!

Dunno if you have my addy Kev but are there some clues here (ie - mailed to one address but not another?)

Thanks for the advice anyway.

Have you noticed this weird virus on the Mudcat BTW - as soon as someone mentions anything whatsoever it instantly logs on as 'GUEST' and starts reciting complete and utter bollocks...

Cheers

Dave the Gnome


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 03:51 PM

Kev sometimes I get emails that have been sent out to a big group of people not just me, I guess that a virus could hijack all those addresses from such an email even though they aren't in your own address book


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 04:22 PM

And I don't have Dave the Gnome in my address book either. (Most of the time I prefer using PMs for Mudcatters anyway, unless for some reason it's more convenient with emails, or the cat is down.)

It has to be someone who was working with a letter with a list including me and the people who've got it. Which would imply that they'd have been on the recipients list as well wouldn't it?

And I've just had someone else get on to me who's had their computer screwed up, followed an alleged email from me, and they aren't in the address book either.

Ho hum. These things are sent to try us. What I need to do is to get all the people I want to keep in touch with to join the Mudcat, and stop using the emails at all, and rely on PMs. Except that I imagine there are creepy crawlies who will turn their attentions to screwing up that any time now.


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: Sorcha
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 04:34 PM

The weird way this thing works, it might have been me. I don't have McGrath, Eric or Dave tG, but if I sent it to some other Catter who does..........who knows? As far as I know I didn't actually infect any Catters, and all the messages I recieved from the UKers whose addresses I do have said they had recieved nothing from me........what a bloody,boring mess.


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: GUEST,Peter from Essex
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 04:51 PM

The spec on the Symantec site says that this one goes through your sent messages, not just the address book.


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: Roger in Sheffield
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 05:00 PM

It really ain't a big problem Sorcha, Kevin. Thing is to get your antivirus software to scan your emails as they arrive like Susan said. I had Norton for a while before I realised I had to set it up to scan emails on arrival. now I got it to auto update each week when I am online.


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: Sorcha
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 05:07 PM

Yes, the ER doc did that for me. PTL!


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: Mark Cohen
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 05:11 PM

Another thing about Magistr is that it apparently will randomly change the "from" address in the emails it sends, picking them from your address list or sent mails, so you mistakenly think somebody else sent you the virus. It's a wonder it took the virons this long to figure out how to do that. The preponderance of viruses are designed for MS Outlook, which is one reason I don't use it; though nobody is really safe. Of course, if everybody used an anti-virus program and kept it up to date daily, these problems wouldn't occur. (And if everybody always did everything they're supposed to for their children's health and safety, I might be out of a job.)

Aloha,
Mark


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: Sorcha
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 05:13 PM

LOL, Dr. Mark! Too true, too true. You could always go into infectious diseases...........


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 06:14 PM

But I wasn't using Outlook Express...

Why do people spoil good things like email? No that's a rhetorical question. If we start discussing that God knows where it would end up.

One thing at this moment there is nothing and nobody in my address book, so if any one gets anything from me, it's not. (Apart from PMs)


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 07:32 PM

Eric the Viking, that "kate La France" would be me, but i don't have you in my address book. I did get a copy of a group email from all of the UK people this week about the Mudcat Support thing they've started, but no virus was attached. Maybe it took my name from someone else's book and used it as a "from" to you? I scanned last with the online thing at Symantec and I did have the magistr, along with a couple of others, but I deleted them, as it said to do, so I shouldn't have them, anymore. I have a new copy of Norton on its way to me along with Win98. In the meantime, I will do another of those online checks just to be sure. I am sorry if anyone has received it from me. Now, which one of you has me in your addy book as "kate?" Most everyone that I know of has me as "Kat.":-)

thanks,

kat


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: Snuffy
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 08:19 PM

All us UK catters got a copy of your reply, Kat, but there was no virus in it.

I think Eric was just referring to the fact that he got an e-mail from a name he didn't recognise, and wondered where it came from. Not many of us would know that La France=laughing.

WassaiL! V


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: 53
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 08:33 PM

I've already had my shots.


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Feb 02 - 09:29 PM

LOL w/Bob/53! Goodonya!

Thanks, Snuffy, I was puzzled about that. Forgot I sent a blanket reply. Unfortunately, the check I just did, found magistr in my email program, again! The only thing I can figure is it was sent to me again OR, last week when I deleted it and went to empty the recyle bin, it said it was empty which I couldn't figure out. THIS time, I made sure it went to the bin, and emptied it properly.

Again, I am sorry if this caused any problems for anyone. Now you know where the laughing came from.**BG**

kat


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 01:48 PM

No Problem Kat. Funny things computers!


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 02:09 PM

I think it's probably all this Borg technology taking over.

I was in a supermarket yesterday, and there were these supervisors running around with little microphones and things sticking out from their heads who had to be consulted by the checkout people on every little detail - and they looked just like they came from a Borg ship (not Seven of Nine I'm afraid.)


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: The Shambles
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 02:24 PM

They must be wearing the latest Marmite detectors I have been hearing about.


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: catspaw49
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 02:31 PM

Marmite? If that's the problem, here's a site to give you some options. It might also be a great way to rid yourself of the virus Kevin!

Sorry...Just can't help myself sometimes.....

Spaw


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 14 Feb 02 - 03:14 PM

There's been a lot of that round here recently, but I'm vowed to silence on that for the next few weeks.


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Subject: RE: Virus alert
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 15 Feb 02 - 06:19 PM

Well, I've improved my virus protection, and put in a personal firewall - and thanks to the people who advised on that in this thread.

And I've been going through my email (now thta I feel free to have email again), and replying to people who have had the suspect emails from me. None of which I'd actually sent.

One interesting thing is that the messages attached appear to vary - but at least one of them included extracts from those minutes Gareth sent about the Friends of Mudcat. And all those people who weren't on my address book, who have reported receiving the poisoned email with my name, appear to have been on the mailing list for those minutes. So maybe the virus was somehow using that mailing list as a supplement to my Address book.

All very mysterious and nasty. My apologies if my lack of precautions have caused problems to other people. I'm not used to this situation in which leaving your own door open means your friends get burgled.


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