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PaulM 22 Jan 02 - 07:47 AM
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Subject: Davey Graham: She moved through the fair
From: PaulM
Date: 22 Jan 02 - 07:47 AM

Hope someone can help.

I've read lots of things that say that Davey Graham's version of 'She moved through the fair' is wonderful.

I'd like to hear it. Amazon.com has 3 CDs of his music, but none have this song on them.

Anyone know where I can buy a CD with it on?

A link to a real audio / wav / mp3 sample would be better than nothing, but I'd like to buy a CD if possible.

Many thanks

Paul


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Subject: RE: Help: Davey Graham: She moved through the fai
From: Willa
Date: 22 Jan 02 - 02:45 PM

Try his website for info www.geocities.com/davygraham/


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Subject: RE: Help: Davey Graham: She moved through the fai
From: lamarca
Date: 22 Jan 02 - 02:52 PM

I don't know which of Davey Graham's original albums this appeared on, but this cut was on a 4-LP compilation called "The Electric Muse - the Story of Folk Into Rock" put together by Karl Dallas in the 70's for Island records. Vintage copies of the LPs are available from www.rockinworld.com.

There was an amended CD re-release of the set a few years ago, and Rockin World also carried that. The cut itself moves from the traditional Irish tune into a percussive raga form improvization, and is fascinating!

Good hunting...


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Subject: RE: Help: Davey Graham: She moved through the fai
From: fat B****rd
Date: 22 Jan 02 - 03:35 PM

Hello Paul M, I'm looking at my copy of "After Hours at Hull University, 4th February 1967" a CD on Rollercoaster Records RCCD 3021 On this DG plays a medley "She moved thru' the bizarre/blue raga" as well as several other remarkable tunes. And all recorded on a reel to reel in his friends' room !! I don't know where you are but Rollercoaster are at Rock House London Road St. Mary's Chalford Gloucestershire GL6 8PU Hope this helps By the way if anybody's out there at Decca/Topic PLEASE RELEASE "MIDNIGHT MAN" ON CD IMMEDIATELY. THANK YOU All the best Paul M from the fB


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Subject: RE: Help: Davey Graham: She moved through the fai
From: Matthew Edwards
Date: 22 Jan 02 - 05:12 PM

Following fB, I don't recall any recording of Davey playing "She Moved through the Fair", but I am sure that somebody will correct me if I am wrong. However there is a brilliant pastiche on one of his LPs where he plays She moves through the bizarre on oud, which is an amazing mix of Irish melody with North African instrumentation that works!

PaulM, If you can't find any of the recordings mentioned above, send me a PM and I'll try to get a copy of my LP to you.


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Subject: RE: Help: Davey Graham: She moved through the fai
From: Wilfried Schaum
Date: 23 Jan 02 - 04:34 AM

If it mustn't be this version, go to www.mp3.org, click on World, and the search for the title string. You get 4 pages of different productions. I've downloaded the version of Slainte - marvellous!

Wilfried


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Subject: RE: Help: Davey Graham: She moved through the fair
From: A Wandering Minstrel
Date: 23 Jan 02 - 09:20 AM

Matthew, sorry you are wrong. There are at least two recordings One on the Electric Muse

see http://wwwmcc.murdoch.edu.au/~gillard/watersons/electric.html

(sorry can't do blickies)

and the other on the 1963 EP "The Thamesiders and Davey Graham" (also starring a little known guitarist called Martin Carthy):)

It's a lovely track, exactly the sort of elegant, embellished but understated guitar playing that made me take up the bodhran


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Subject: RE: Help: Davey Graham: She moved through the fair
From: GUEST,Don
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 02:55 PM

I heard this on the "Electric Muse" compilation. Interestingly enough, almost the exact same piece is performed by The Yardbirds, featuring Jimmy Page. The Yardbirds called it (as I recall) "White Summer".

As to who ripped off whom, I don't actually know, but a check of the recording dates should provide some evidence.


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Subject: RE: Help: Davey Graham: She moved through the fair
From: CraigS
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 03:13 PM

Whereas according to my somewhat dodgy memory Padraic Colum wrote the somg around 1905, it would seem possible that the air is much older and traditional - the Irish do like to recycle tunes from time to time. It would also be likely that at the time of the Yardbirds' popularity the song was still in copyright, but the tune could be trad. arr. Yardbirds to avoid royalties. White Summer? Possibly the tune's correct name. As an analogy, the bagpipe tune Hey, Tuttie Tatie is almost universally known as Scots Wae Hae, after Burn's words. I don't know which title I would find most convincing, were I asked which was a genuine tune title and had not met either.


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Subject: RE: Help: Davey Graham: She moved through the fair
From: CraigS
Date: 05 Nov 02 - 03:15 PM

And while I'm on the subject, I've never seen DG play She Moved Through The Fair but I knew a man who had, and he said it was played in DADGAD for what it's worth!


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Subject: RE: Help: Davey Graham: She moved through the fair
From: Dita
Date: 06 Nov 02 - 11:02 AM

Have to check when I get home, but I think Davey recorded it on
"Folk Routes, New Routes", an album he did with Shirly Collins in the early sixties.

The Jimmy Page recording was a solo, recorded right at the end of the Yardbirds, for Micky Most, and was used on the final album "Little Games". By this time the Yarbirds had become Led Zepplin.

I am sure Davey's version was first, and it's not unlikely that Page, as a prolific session man and blues jammer would have heard it.

love, john


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Subject: RE: Help: Davey Graham: She moved through the fair
From: GUEST,Martin Ryan
Date: 06 Nov 02 - 12:07 PM

Craig

In fact, I think its still in copyright. I understand a cheque still arrives regularly to his family!

Regards


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Subject: RE: Help: Davey Graham: She moved through the fair
From: Fifer
Date: 06 Nov 02 - 01:49 PM

Confirming DG on Electric Muse plays a "Magic" version of "She moves through the fair." I am lucky enough (and old enough) to have it on vinyl. If all else fails get in touch if you can and I'll copy it.


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Subject: RE: Help: Davey Graham: She moved through the fair
From: RolyH
Date: 06 Nov 02 - 04:17 PM

'She Moved thru'the Bizzarre/Blue Raga' is still about on 'After Hours' (Rollercoaster RCCD 3021)which is a wonderful recording of DG backstage after a gig at Hull University in 1967.


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Subject: RE: Help: Davey Graham: She moved through the fair
From: Dita
Date: 07 Nov 02 - 04:51 AM

OK did a bit of research last night.

1) It's not on "Folk Routes, New Routes", I mis-remembered.

2) It's is on Electric Muse as noted above, and the recording on there is the Thamessiders with Davey Graham recording, from the EP.

3)White Summer is credited on the Yardbirds album as a Page composition. It was recorded by Page and a tabla player in 1967.
The Yardbirds biographer notes that it was "inspired by the work os fusion guitarists Bert Janch and Davey Graham"

love, john


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Subject: RE: Help: Davey Graham: She moved through the fair
From: lamarca
Date: 07 Nov 02 - 10:07 AM

Page was infamous for ripping off folk revival versions of stuff and putting his own name on them. Bert Jansch sued Led Zeppelin for abuse of his arrangement of "Blackwaterside" (I think he won, but don't know for sure). Led Zep's rendition of "Gallows Pole" is Leadbelly's done electrified. I'd be willing to bet Jimmy Page was a bit more than "inspired" by Davey Graham's version...


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