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BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat

Dave Wynn 07 Dec 01 - 08:48 PM
53 07 Dec 01 - 08:56 PM
Sorcha 07 Dec 01 - 09:07 PM
Morticia 07 Dec 01 - 09:09 PM
Rick Fielding 07 Dec 01 - 09:35 PM
Morticia 07 Dec 01 - 09:53 PM
katlaughing 07 Dec 01 - 10:01 PM
Rick Fielding 07 Dec 01 - 10:14 PM
catspaw49 07 Dec 01 - 10:28 PM
Peter Kasin 07 Dec 01 - 10:31 PM
Sorcha 07 Dec 01 - 10:33 PM
Melani 07 Dec 01 - 10:37 PM
GUEST,BigDaddy 07 Dec 01 - 10:48 PM
AliUK 07 Dec 01 - 10:49 PM
MMario 07 Dec 01 - 10:56 PM
Jeri 07 Dec 01 - 11:03 PM
GUEST 07 Dec 01 - 11:05 PM
MMario 07 Dec 01 - 11:11 PM
Jeri 07 Dec 01 - 11:38 PM
Rick Fielding 08 Dec 01 - 12:10 AM
catspaw49 08 Dec 01 - 12:11 AM
Steve in Idaho 08 Dec 01 - 12:21 AM
catspaw49 08 Dec 01 - 01:07 AM
Bert 08 Dec 01 - 01:10 AM
Amergin 08 Dec 01 - 02:28 AM
GUEST, same person 08 Dec 01 - 07:07 AM
Mooh 08 Dec 01 - 08:23 AM
mzkitty 08 Dec 01 - 08:23 AM
Rick Fielding 08 Dec 01 - 11:38 AM
Big Mick 08 Dec 01 - 03:14 PM
Rick Fielding 08 Dec 01 - 04:27 PM
Steve in Idaho 08 Dec 01 - 04:34 PM
Helen 08 Dec 01 - 05:54 PM
Little Hawk 08 Dec 01 - 06:06 PM
Sorcha 08 Dec 01 - 06:10 PM
catspaw49 08 Dec 01 - 06:16 PM
Gloredhel 08 Dec 01 - 08:24 PM
Little Hawk 08 Dec 01 - 08:29 PM
Dave Wynn 08 Dec 01 - 08:55 PM
DougR 08 Dec 01 - 08:57 PM
Dave Wynn 08 Dec 01 - 08:58 PM
Dani 08 Dec 01 - 09:03 PM
Dave Wynn 08 Dec 01 - 09:08 PM
Jeri 08 Dec 01 - 09:23 PM
Dave Wynn 08 Dec 01 - 09:26 PM
catspaw49 08 Dec 01 - 09:32 PM
Big Mick 08 Dec 01 - 09:43 PM
Dani 08 Dec 01 - 10:42 PM
Amergin 08 Dec 01 - 11:23 PM
Dani 08 Dec 01 - 11:27 PM
DougR 09 Dec 01 - 12:07 AM
Celtic Soul 09 Dec 01 - 10:33 AM
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Liz the Squeak 09 Dec 01 - 07:49 PM
marty D 09 Dec 01 - 11:37 PM
katlaughing 09 Dec 01 - 11:56 PM
alison 10 Dec 01 - 12:07 AM
GUEST,Roger the skiffler 10 Dec 01 - 06:20 AM
artbrooks 10 Dec 01 - 08:36 AM
Steve in Idaho 10 Dec 01 - 11:40 AM
Micca 10 Dec 01 - 12:57 PM
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Subject: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Dave Wynn
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 08:48 PM

I feel I must make this clear (irony warning).

I read a thread on Mudcat about breadmakers. I am not the type to be influenced by such ramblings. The fact that after reading the thread I bought one (Morpy Richards stainless steel) was purely coincidental.

I was probably going to buy one anyway. I feel the need to say that despite the ravings about how nice it is to wake up to fresh hot bread and taste the subtle flavours of the delicate mixture of yeast and organic flour (when juxtaposed with the tangy , dark friuts of home made preseve set against the aroma and flavour of Java blend coffee) I would still have bought one on my own cogniscence.

Mudcat and the thread therof in no way assisted or prompted my purchase.

Just thought I would share this with you.

P.S. Mine also makes cakes and jam!!

Spot


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: 53
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 08:56 PM

fetch em boy. BOB


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Sorcha
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 09:07 PM

NO! Mudcat has NO influence on my life whatsoever!! Of course, I would have driven to Aurora during rush hour to see Seamus anyway. The fact that I had never heard of him Before Mudcat is totally irrelevant. I KNOW I would have set up a meet in Cheyenne among people I had never met, even if Mudcat was not in my life!

And, I would still spend hours searching for obscure lyrics for total strangers, I just wouldn't have anyplace to post them, LOL!


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Morticia
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 09:09 PM

The fact that I have been searching ( fruitlessly) for a bread maker since that thread is also, and likewise, not at all influenced by the Mudcat.( Spot , where did you get yours and what did it cost?)


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 09:35 PM

Well, other than meeting fine new folks, learning HOW to do a blue clicky, (after having coined the term) discovering that I have verbal diahrrea when I get behind a keyboard, and that I'm MUCH more easily distracted by this forum, when I'm trying to work, than I could ever have imagined....I've not been influenced at all...

.....except for that Gawd-damned (and expensive) meat-smoker that DOUG R. went on and on about!

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Morticia
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 09:53 PM

a meat-smoker?????? Whatinhell is one of them?


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 10:01 PM

Roy Book Binder sang about one of them, Mortee:

Cigarette Blues


Since I'm out here, baby, course I'm all alone,
I haven't got me nobody just to carry my smoking on
Woncha just smoke my cigarette baby, smoke it all night long
Roll my cigarette baby, 'til you make my good ole' ashes *****


Going up the country, git my ashes hauled
Women round this part of town gonna let my ashes fall
Woncha just smoke my cigarette baby, smoke 'em all night long
Roll my cigarette baby, until you make my good ole ashes *****


Going up the country, get my ham bone boiled
Women in this part of town, gonna let my ham bone spoil
Woncha just smoke my cigarette baby, smoke it all night long
Roll my cigarette baby, til you make my ....*****


One thing that I want you to know before I leave from home
No my cigarette ain't too big, no it ain't too ****
Won't you just smoke my cigarette baby, smoke it all night long
Roll my cigarette baby...........


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 10:14 PM

You Feeelthy gurullls!

Come next summer, I will be smoking my meat (hams and lambs) out in the garden, and even inviting guests over for the results.......and yes, it IS all because of Doug R.

Apparently it's an "Arizona" thing, but I'm open to anything.

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 10:28 PM

Where did I miss this particular thread? I been smokin for years and there ain't nothin' like it! I don't know which one you have, but if you don't get into it, you're just not right! I have a bunch of applewood all ready for my next load.....Generally two chickens, a turkey breast, a pork shoulder, and a beef rib roast. Use oranbes and grapefruit in the steamer pan along with your favorite smokin wood and you'll be eatin high on the hog!!! Makes great jerky too......Waynes smokin some deer jerky right now!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Peter Kasin
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 10:31 PM

Morticia, a meat smoker is a covered cooking device that smokes meats. Instead of going to a specialty market or deli, you can make smoked turkey, ham, etc. at home.

-chanteyranger


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Sorcha
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 10:33 PM

Just where can I buy "oranbes", spaw? Don't think we have them in Wyomin'. We do have a brand new smoker sitting in the garage..........used once in 16 yrs...........one of them things Mr. Sorcha says he is going to do......


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Melani
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 10:37 PM

Gee, I thought a meat smoker was a carnivore with bad habits!


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: GUEST,BigDaddy
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 10:48 PM

I tried smoking some salmon one time, but I couldn't keep it lit.


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: AliUK
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 10:49 PM

Melani, you just described me ( hangs head in shame).


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: MMario
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 10:56 PM

hmmmmmmmm.......methinks I should visit a few of the local vineyards during trimming time and collect a few bundles for 'catter with smokers. They charge an arm and a leg for vine trimmings in the gourmet catalogs.


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Jeri
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 11:03 PM

I bought a smoker at a yard sale 2 years ago (brand new, for something like $30), and haven't used it yet. I think it's traditional in the northeast US to wait until the power goes out in the biggest snowstorm of the year, and then cook outdoors. Has anyone ever tried salmon? What other woods, besides hickory, mesquite and apple? Am I creeping the thread?

I did NOT buy that guitar because I'd listened to Mudcat guitar nerds talk INCESSANTLY about their "babies," listened to them play or made a friend of one of them and asked "should I buy it?" when I know perfectly well he can't even say no to HIMSELF.

I have never purchased a kitchen appliance because of discussion here.


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 11:05 PM

Jeri, methinks thou dost protest too much....*G*


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: MMario
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 11:11 PM

*thread creep*

jeri - grape vine (especially from the european wine grapes), pear (sometimes sold as "fruitwood"), alder. Juniper berries can be used in moderation- often recommended for use with a "neutral" wood. Likewise clippings of thyme and rosemary can be used in a smoker - again - usually recommended for use with a "neutral" wood.

Of course I've never figurd out what is meant by a "neutral" wood. Oak perhaps?

I know the softwoods are NOT used...and I know one guy who swears by chips of old sherry casks.


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Jeri
Date: 07 Dec 01 - 11:38 PM

GUEST, OK - I'll admit that I would never have even thought about a guitar if it weren't for Mudcat. I'm enjoying it very much though, and thanks to discussions here about quality and Rick's much-appreciated advice, I got a good one.

I'm not buying a bread machine though, and you can't make me.

(What really gets me is when folks start talking about food. I wind up with cravings and have to buy/cook/eat whatever's being discussed.)


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 12:10 AM

Finally....a word that rhymes with ORANGE!

Jeri a good guitar is like a woman...but a smoker is just a smoker.

On a serious note (please forgive me), I am far more tolerant of gun owners now than when I came to this forum. Why? I read closely what several Catters said (people I'd grown to respect) and felt they made some good points. Not EVERYONE of course....and I still think the NRA should stick their commemorative bullets up Charleton's ass, but in general, I've changed a long-held position on that issue because of the Cat.

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: catspaw49
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 12:11 AM

I use good charcoal for the heat base and then add the flavoring woods, soaked down to increase their smoke and longevity. Personally, I get a kick out of trying combinations and though it's popular, I have never cared for mesquite. I have easy access to both pear and apple and I like them both. A lot of people only use the steamer pan for occasional use, but I fill it with seasoning things, mainly fruits.

My absolute favorite though is a mix of oranges and apples in apple juice over a hickory and apple fire. And my favorite meat is beef. With turkey things can become almost so strong as to be acidic and frankly pork just kinda turns to ham (surprise!). But a good beef roast has a stronger flavor on it's own and will take a lot of smoke. The results are heavenly. Whole chickens are great too and you can do them in about half the time of beef.

8 or 9 years ago, Wayne and I started to build an actual smokehouse in my backyard but got hung up on lining the smoke tunnel and fortunately the weather changed and the following year, so did our lives. What the hell we were thinking about is beyond me....How many idiots do you know living in a town that build a smokehouse? Serious insanity. Maybe next summer we'll start again.........

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 12:21 AM

And I would never have spent the last couple of months researching woods, guitar makers, and histories - let alone spent a day in a big city farting around playing guitars that I'd never heard of.

And there would not be 5 new records, yes vinyl, laying on my counter from Folk Legacy?

And I sure as heck would not be playing music a couple hours a day - - - - -wait a minute - LOOK OUT - it's a TRAAP!!!

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

No I have not been influenced -

HA - Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: catspaw49
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 01:07 AM

Oh hell Steve, that's just the natural stuff. The question is, have you bought a breadmaker?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Bert
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 01:10 AM

We smoke a lot, turkeys, salmon, brisket. Anything we can get usually. We use oak, hickory or mesquite for preference, but failing that will use any kind of wood except treated lumber or plywood. With softwoods you just use a little less.

Mostly we do the smoking directly on the barbecue or in the pressure cooker. We have a new smoker but haven't used it yet.

To smoke in the pressure cooker, put sawdust, some tea leaves and herbs (sage, rosemary or whatever you prefer) onto some aluminum foil on the bottom of the pressure cooker, and put the fish or meat on the rack. Close the lid but don't put the weight on. Turn the pressure cooker on until smoke comes out of the vent. Then turn it off, put the weight on and leave it to cool.


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Amergin
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 02:28 AM

i got a meat smoker....her name is Liz...she smokes alot of turkey...


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: GUEST, same person
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 07:07 AM

Jeri....*S* I know just what you mean about food cravings!


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Mooh
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 08:23 AM

No BS here.

Cold smoked trout from Georgian Bay is the ultimate hangover cure. I also discovered that it's almost better than the beer. The trick is to smoke it within a day of being caught, never freeze the fish, eat it cold, use locally cut wild apple or other hardwoods (never softwoods, mountain ash is nice), and thank the fish before you eat it. Goes well with cider and blueberries.

Honest to God truth.

Peace, Mooh.


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: mzkitty
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 08:23 AM

Everyone knows that cyber interaction has no relevance in the real world...I have not been infulenced one single bit by Mudcat.

But...I DID have this dream that I played at Carnegie Hall one time, and Mudcat people were there...

FOR SALE: **Breadmaker, cheap. Been used once. **Sturdy doorstop. (free with purchace of breadmaker) Unique, fashioned as loaf of bread.


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 11:38 AM

'Nother 'serious' influence directly because of Mudcat. I was horrified at a couple of really bad spelling mistakes early on in visits here, so I started keeping a dictionary handy. It REALLY helped.

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Big Mick
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 03:14 PM

Hi........my name is Mick.........actually its Michael Richard Patrick O'Leighen...........I am a smoked Mudcataholic.........in the olden days I used to smoke turkey, trout, ham, chicken, lampshades, turtle wax, and hippie beads. I quit because I heard it led to heroin addiction and rampant sexual wantoness.

Mudcat hasn't influenced me one bit!! I am the same stellar talent in hiding that I have always been. Just because Mudcat has gained me a couple of friends like Sandy and Caroline Paton, Ed Trickett, Rick Fielding, Jed Marum, Peter T, Blessings Barbara, Catspaw, Charlie Baum, Mary and George LaMarca, Karen Kobela, Jeri Corlew, Max, Jeff, Joe Offer, KT, Allan, Bill Sables, Micca, Carol, Dick Greenhaus, Seamus Kennedy, Dan Milner, Kath Westra, Cap'n Bob, Don Meixner, THE FAIR ONE, Justa Picker, Tony, Willie O, Crowhugger, Brother Dick Swain...............I mean what the hell has that got to do with me????? How the hell would exposure to Folk Legacy ever influence such a stellar individual as meself?????? How would singing with Tom Hall, Dan Milner, Shay Walker, Peg, and my dear friend Barry Finn, all in one trip ever have even the slightest influence on how I would interpret any song at all? Oh, and I suppose that folks will try and convince me that my exposure here to Aine, Philippa, and Annaroi would have some kind of mystical effect on my ability to sing as gaeilge???? Not a chance, sez I!!! And when I make my trip to Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England, I am sure it will be the same story. Those Layabouts won't have the slightest influence on these sage pipes.

Nope..........I don't care what you say......this place has had no impact or effect whatever on this aul Irish American.

All the best,

Mick with tongue planted firmly in cheek


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 04:27 PM

Well if you don't like the place Mick, just say so.

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 04:34 PM

Spaw - I did not buy a breadmaker - Jan did.

Steve *G*


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Helen
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 05:54 PM

And Mudcat didn't influence me to send a Secret Santa present to the U.S. from Oz. No way, not on your nellie! Why would I think that anyone would want a porcelain mug with an Oz bluegum design & a bottle of super-quality tea tree oil (melaleuca alternifolia) & 2 vintage new age books on magic & amulets?

Why would I read past postings from some Mudcatter I had never even exchanged views with in the forum, just so that I could find her some presents which I thought she would really like?

And why would some other Mudcatter do the same for me?

Nope. No infulencing* happening here. [*I like that word, mzkitty!].

Helen


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 06:06 PM

Me neither. Except for the several 1,000 hours spent here when I could have been sculpting a life-size bust of Richard Nixon out of modeling clay (giving the double "V" sign). I blame Mudcat for the fact that I have hardly yet begun that particular project.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Sorcha
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 06:10 PM

Well, get on it, Little Hawk! No need to continue putting off an important project like that!


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: catspaw49
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 06:16 PM

Ya' know Hawk, if you'd get the damn thing done, we could make molds of it and sell them. We've got a lot of latex left over from when the condom factory blew up and the inmates at the Neil Young Center for the Terminally Screwed could paint them after tiple practice. Maybe you could do a Shatner one too and we'd paint those and add hair and sell them to your Shatner nuts. If you got the clay, we got the latex and the plaster of Paris.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Gloredhel
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 08:24 PM

I have not been influenced by Mudcat in the five months I've been here. My parents began to notice my insanity when I asked for a guitar for Christmas. I already play four instruments. My protest was "But...but...all the other singers have one!" The reply was "What other singers?" I had to confess--I'd been spending time on Mudcat again. They're beginning to worry I'll get crazy ideas about being a professional musician.... (kidding, of course, they're paying for me to study music in college)


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 08:29 PM

GRRRRRREAT idea, Spaw! Blind Drunk in Blind River is always blowing up condoms too...he thinks it's funny. Now that you mentioned the idea of a Shatner statue I am so excited that I can barely sit down...

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Dave Wynn
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 08:55 PM

Should I ever develop a desire for a meat smoker. I would like to say here and now that it would not have been created nor would I have been influenced in any way by reading the diatribe above.

I am currently up to my F'in ears in loaves of all shapes colours and sizes. Non of which were influenced by Mudcat.

Nor am I going to blame Mudcat for the extensions of bread that I am reading about , testing and researching in.

It looks like I am about to gain a masters in "The philosophy of bread and its variations in the western diet".

Bollox to Mudcat and if anyone comes up with another obscure thread that involves me not being influenced in twee little items like "meat smokers" or "hedgehog terrine presses" then so help me they better be very afraid coz my wife will not take many more prisoners....

Spot.


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: DougR
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 08:57 PM

Have I been influenced by the Mudcat? Naw! Would I miss it if it were not here? Naw! ****** (time passes)**** Now that my nose has stopped growing, I'll add my two cents to the smoker comments. I tried smoking chickens but it hurt my lungs ...aw...!

I used Mesquite wood for several years but have become addicted to apple wood of late. I'm going to smoke four chickens and a turkey tomorrow in my smoker. I give my neighbors a smoked chicken each Christmas, and tomorrow is the big day. The turkey is for moi! I'm interested in your comments, Spaw, about using citrus in the drip pan. I've never tried that. And don't think you are the only crazy guy on the Mudcat that has thought about building a smokehouse! I'd love to have one in my backyard. I can still remember how great my grandpa's smoke house smelled after years of smoking hams and sausages the Tennessee way. As a matter of fact, my family and I visited Monticello in the early 70's and the smoke house there had that same wonderful aroma.

Tell Heather you can live no longer without a smoker, Rick! Santa can bring you one!

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Dave Wynn
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 08:58 PM

FOR SALE...

Five loaves......Brown , wholemeal , white french , White basic and fruit.

Or will swap for three fishes.

Spot (The proffit)

Nice pun I thought.....


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Dani
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 09:03 PM

Nope. No influence whatsoever. I ALWAYS invited strange men to my home and place of business sight unseen, meet them in restaurants, etc. I ALWAYS sent gifts to women I met twice (oh, God, that's a hint, isn't it?). I ALWAYS sang in public....

OK, now I'm busted...

Dani


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Dave Wynn
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 09:08 PM

Dani...thats blatant thread creep, I inferred that Mudcat has never inflenced me in Breadmakers......I didn't say it hadn't ruined my life in lots of other ways.

As for singing in public.....Guilty

Spot


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Jeri
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 09:23 PM

Dani, I knew all along that you sang in public. (Wonderfully, too, I might add.) You have true grit, woman!

I must admit that I never grabbed the arses of men I didn't know extremely well before Mudcat. I definitely never did it in public, and it never before involved having clothes on. Uh...maybe too much information...

Burning question: Does anyone around here use extra light strings, or know anyone who does? I was given a brand new set of guitar strings to try out, and I don't think I can use extra lights.


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Dave Wynn
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 09:26 PM

Try em with a strong brown four using demmerara sugar with a fast acting dried yeast on setting 7 (three hours)..

Oh bugger it..there I go again.....Sorry Jeri....


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: catspaw49
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 09:32 PM

I'd like to throw my ass in the ring for any available grabbing and also offer myself as a potential grabber......except in Doug's case. I ain't grabbin' Doug's ass.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Big Mick
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 09:43 PM

Feck you, Spaw. You have to be available for travel. I have demonstrated great proficiency at the travel, at the grabbing of asses, as well as having my ass grabbed. Your job in the layabouts at large and for hire, is entirely different. And you know it. For those that don't know what it is, it is quite simple. If, while we are laying about, Fieldings pickin', Swan's singing, and my being the grabbor/grabbee......if all those things don't work and we discover that said recalcitrant woman is just not responding...........then, and only then...........you may try flaring one off to see if we can impress this prima donna. If that don't do it, we go back to nappin'.

Mick


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Dani
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 10:42 PM

Though we creep farther afield, I feel it necessary, in order that our reputations be unsullied, for the record to show that I was neither party to, nor witness to, any ass-grabbing at the Getaway. FSGW and Mudcatter alike acted with dignity, chivalry and decorum.

All except for Max and Kendall. And I'd hang around with either of 'em anyway.

Dani


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Amergin
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 11:23 PM

so max and kendall were grabbing each others' asses?


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Dani
Date: 08 Dec 01 - 11:27 PM

That's not what I said, now. Don't get me in trouble. Where's Tinker? Where's the evidence?!

Somebody help me out here...

Dani


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: DougR
Date: 09 Dec 01 - 12:07 AM

You don't know for sure, Spaw. I might just have a very grabble ass for an old man! I know, you probably are partial to young ...oh forget it. **BG**

I think Kendall is partial to Llamas. At least that's what I've heard from some of our Brit friends.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Celtic Soul
Date: 09 Dec 01 - 10:33 AM

Must say, if I had any excess money, I might buy a breadmaker. Maybe even because of mudcat.

But I have never allowed it to influence me in any *other* way. No, I don't sing at least 3 songs we found in it's archives. No, I have not used lyrics found in threads here. No, I have not gained any knowledge in any other area from threads here either.

Don't stand too near me right now. I anticipate a sudden electrical storm at any moment.


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: WyoWoman
Date: 09 Dec 01 - 01:52 PM

Welp, let me just say I will never own a bread machine. Regardless of how much you touters tout. I thnk they're cheating. I make bread every weekend, enough to last me the week. I get cranky if I don't get to knead a couple of loaves a week. But then, I live alone.

I own no smoker. I will never buy a smoker. However, if I ever hook up with another nice gentleman, I will expect this to be part of the dowry he brings to the match. I will bring apple wood. I have an orchard full of it.

AND ... I would have two guitars now (2!!!) even though I can't really play them, whether or not I had encountered Mudcat. I would have pressed through having my fingertips feel like hamburger meat -- a point at which I've stopped several times in my life previously -- regardless. I would have learned 50 or so songs in the past couple of years all by my lonesome. I would have spent HUNDREDS of FECKIN'DOLLARS ordering CDs online so I could hear the artists other musicians love, regardless. I would be comfortable going to jams with complete strangers anyway. And I would have met dozens of new music friends no matter what. I would have finally conquered my pernicious fear of singing in front of other people, and would have developed the confidence to actually bring out my guitar and plunk meaningfuly in the presence of people who really do play guitars whether Mudcat ever wriggled its way into my heart. And this global consciousness I have, informed by opinions from very opinionated music lovers all over the world would have spontaneously combusted, no matter what.

So, no. Really, Mudcat hasn't made much of a difference in my life.

God, I love you dopes.

ww


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 09 Dec 01 - 07:49 PM

I am not now and never have been influenced by the Mudcat.... I frequently drive 300 miles to smoke other peoples cigarettes, write strange songs and sing them, take pictures of my nekkid self singing, acquire cats, write naughty limericks, do requests (but not yours GUEST) and hug total strangers that I've known for 2 years as a different name (and on occasions different sex!)....... I'm just that sort of person I guess......

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: marty D
Date: 09 Dec 01 - 11:37 PM

Other than completely renewing my interest in music, which had lay dormant for several years Mudcat hasn't influenced me at all. Just kidding, I love the place.

marty


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Dec 01 - 11:56 PM

Mudcat did not make me what I am today! The shoe fit, so I wore it, regardless of anything implied, written, or said here.

katain'tsmokin'!


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: alison
Date: 10 Dec 01 - 12:07 AM

personally I always make a point of travelling into the centre of Sydney to walk into hotel lobbies and meet up with strange men I have never met before (don't take the "strange" bit personally TerryK).......

and I often ring up complete strangers and announce "you don't know me, but I'm alison off the computer!!"

and I spend a lot of time convincing normally sane adults to take their clothes off and pose nude for me.....

I also have this weird habit of offering my home to complete strangers who happen to be passing through Sydney.......

nope... hasn't influenced me at all....... *grin*

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 10 Dec 01 - 06:20 AM

Of course not, then why have I recordings by Rick Fielding, Larry Otway's Sorcha Dorcha,Judy Cook, Dan Milner,Art Thieme and Frank Hamilton in my collection? Not to mention a whole slew of recommendations from Mudcatters. Cost me a fortune!
RtS (not to mention storage racks)


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: artbrooks
Date: 10 Dec 01 - 08:36 AM

Not I. I have always spent at least 30 minutes morning and evening reading (and occasionally responding to) strange comments from odd people regarding topics that I didn't previously know existed. And I'm equally sure that I would have sung 'Oh Lutefisk" at last Friday's song circle without Mudcat's influence. Not.


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 10 Dec 01 - 11:40 AM

What does slainte mean?

And you sound perfectly normal to me -

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Micca
Date: 10 Dec 01 - 12:57 PM

Steve, Slainte is the Gaelic for health, hence the toast Slainte Math( pronounced vah) which means good health, in Scotland the response is often Slainte Mhor ( pronounced Vor) ewhich means big health.!!


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Steve in Idaho
Date: 10 Dec 01 - 01:21 PM

OK - Thanks - I kept seeing it and tried it backwards but nothing seemed to fit - Is it pronounced like Saint only with the L active?

Steve


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Dec 01 - 01:51 PM

me?? influenced??...d'ya suppose aiding and abetting both nakedness and accordians could be tracable to.....nawwwww.....

and trading beer internationally?....and singing into the computer to people in Australia, Wales, Hawaii, Colorado and *shudder* Texas...all at the same time?

...and worrying about the personal problems of people I have never met?

and sitting for 20 minutes trying to think of something even cleverer to say?..*grin*


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Micca
Date: 10 Dec 01 - 02:53 PM

Norton, first part usually pronounced "Slawn-cha" that is the hard CH sound as in Chair


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 10 Dec 01 - 07:41 PM

slange var. That's what Micca sounds like, but he could be pissed.... he usually is...

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 10 Dec 01 - 08:05 PM

I'm never influnced by ideas I read anywhere on open resources.

The last bit of information I read when I was just browsing a thread (rather than seeking info) but completley ignored/ wasn't swayed by cropped up on uk.music.folk on Sat or Sun when someone suggested a free newserver for those of us who have problems with unreliable newsservers. I of course discovered and resigtered with news.cis.dfn.de completely as a result of my own investigations...

Jon


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 10 Dec 01 - 09:01 PM

Just thought: I should have given the website (http://news.cis.dfn.de/) for that newsserver. I know over here there are a few of us experiencing missing posts with both Freeserve and BTInternet and also that there may be some people who would like to use usenet but whose ISPs do not carry newsservers and like me don't get on with web based systems like Google's (formerly deja-news).

Jon


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 10 Dec 01 - 09:15 PM

Contrary to all rumors, I did NOT buy my very own English concertina because of Mudcat discussions. Nor have I actually had the nerve to play it in public because of Mudcat encouragement.

I do NOT spend hours searching for and transcribing esoteric songs so Dick Greenhaus can add them to the DigiTrad.

I have NOT found out an incredible amount of information about almost any subject under the sun, from points of view varying all over the world, by reading the 'Cat.

I have NOT been introduced to music and musicians I would never have found otherwise...

I have NOT spent a fortune on Kleenex with which to clean my keyboard, necessitated by snorting coffee/tea/soda pop/booze (Ow!) through my nose while reading the latest adventures of Cletus, Paw, and Reg, Reg, and Reg.

I have NEVER spent an inordinate amount of time wondering how the rumor about Big Mick and spuds originated.

And I have NEVER, EVER bought either a bread machine OR a meat smoker because of advice in this forum!

So there.

Lin


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: catspaw49
Date: 10 Dec 01 - 09:42 PM

Well Lin....regarding the spud...............

Mick had been away for a few weeks and had departed after losing several wrestling matches in the Tavern JellO pit to Koko the gorilla who was warm for his form. Upon his return, the question was asked, "So what's a Big Mick?" and in a thread entitled "Big Mick's Back" or something like that, I posted this regarding Mick, and it went downhill from there. I think the culmination of this particular running joke was when annamil did me a favor and when Mick was up frot at the Getaway, walked up, introduced herself, and said she had a gift from Spaw.....and gave him a spud.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 10 Dec 01 - 09:58 PM

Just trying to think of a couple of recent Mudcat related ones - not necessarily directly from the forum but certainly through people that I've only come across because of MC...

I tried to cut a bit of lapis lazuli and got some jasper as a result of comments from Don Mexeiner - I'll never be a crafsman by any stretch of the imagination but its fun trying with stones.

Used Sygate to internet share on Justa Picka's reccommendation and am very happy with the software.

Seen lots of recipies I want to sample...

The general knowledge base (I mean not just music) here is pretty impressive...

Jon


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 12:54 AM

OH LORD, 'SPAW!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!! (And Mick let you live???!)

Thanks for that gem of Mudcat history--damn, more Kleenex.

Lin


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Dave Wynn
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 08:35 PM

Sorry Max...It seem from this thread that you are running a cafe that does not influence anyone in any way at all.

Seems people would post , ask , research , argue , fight , cry , call for help , help when called and buy the occasional breadmaker and meat smoker , Guitar , kapo , capo , strings , kittens (did I say Kittens...see Manchester Mucat meets) all without the influence of Mudcat.....yer may as well close it Max....the ungrateful so n' so's don't know when they are blessed.

Spot (with one eye slightly closed) ;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Amergin
Date: 11 Dec 01 - 09:07 PM

mudcat did not influence me one bit....the people here on the other hand.....


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: hesperis
Date: 15 Dec 01 - 10:30 PM

What? No! Never!!!!

*g*


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Jan 02 - 12:50 AM

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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Jan 02 - 01:26 PM

Well, it's becoming abundantly clear that NO ONE has EVER been influenced by Mudcat Cafe. No one. Nadie. Zilch.

It makes you wonder why we continue on...

Well, at least it allows us all to rave on about any subject of our choice, exposing most of our own character flaws blatantly in the process, and drawing fire from anonymous GUESTS whom we will never meet, but would probably get along with fine in real life if we were not encountering them on this forum...

...without carrying an ounce of responsibility for any of it, because it influences no one.

Gosh. Pretty cool, eh? :-) I think I'll go walk the guinea pig.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 10 Jan 02 - 03:24 PM

Thanks Guest for reviving this thread I missed it 1st time around for some reason. It makes for entertaining reading; and Spaw, Im still chucking at the thought of Shatner Nuts, bring on the pointy toed shoes you promised Max.
Failte.....Jock


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 10 Jan 02 - 03:26 PM

Thanks Guest for reviving this thread I missed it 1st time around for some reason. It makes for entertaining reading; and Spaw, Im still chuckling at the thought of Shatner Nuts, bring on the pointy toed shoes you promised Max.
Failte.....Jock


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Jan 07 - 11:47 PM

refresh


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Ebbie
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 01:28 AM

Well, I also must say that the Mudcat has had absolutely no influence on me. Other than having loads of CDs in my house, some of whose artists I have never met. Oh, and other than finding myself quoting a bit of wisdom or arcane knowledge to friends of mine who, strangely, have all become familiar with Mudcat, the name. Oh, and other than finding myself worrying about certain individuals whom I have not met in meat space. Or being excited about a new adventure for someone whom I have not met. And other than knowing where to go when I need a question answered, whether it involves lyrics to a song I just heard or for advice on how to organize and run a folk club or maybe a computer related problem.

So I would say that no, I have not been influenced by Mudcat.


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: KT
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 03:19 AM

nor have I, Eb.. ....we've always had conversations about the adventures and wisdom of folks we've never met, the mere mention of whose names result in quizical looks from friends, followed by their response, in unison....."oh....mudcat....".

And yes, I've always had the dream that I answer the knock at the front door to see that Spaw and katlaughing have arrived for lunch!

And standing in line at the checkout counter, I've always chuckled at the thought of the "Wes Ginny Slide Rule."

And I've always stayed up way too late, chatting with friends on the other side of the world.....nope, nothing new here....


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: KT
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 03:27 AM

'cept for friends, friends, friends....!


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: jacqui.c
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 09:55 AM

No influence at all. Even without the Mudcat I'm sure that I would have ended up marrying a foreigner and moving 3,000 miles from the place I called home.

I am absolutely sure that I would have come across my 'evil twin' and spent many happy hours looking for grotesque presents to give to our friends.



It would just have taken a lot longer............


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Tinker
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 10:21 AM

I'm sure I would have opened my home and exposed my children to anuanl hordes of traveling musicains I've never met before if I had never come to Mudcat.

And my wonderful collection of video memories would have developed even if I had never met Mudcatter's in them....

And the connections around the world, and across the country, the trips and the conversations scattered between the music.....

No there's no influence at all.....


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: SINSULL
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 10:22 AM

I have not bought a breadmaker nor have I been influenced by Mudcat. It is just coincidence that I now live in Maine in a little Cape Cod vs. a money pit apartment in an Historic District in NYC. And who are these people who wander in and take over my bathroom and bedrooms? Mudcatters you say???

And why does that woman who talks funny keep showing up at my door with ugly bric-a-brac? And who left that F**kin' big trailor in my driveway? And by the way who left 15 pounds of gummy candy in my living room? And why does that strange little man from England keep calling here at odd hours? And why is there an inflatable anatomically correct sheep in my living room?

Lobster boil??? I don't eat the nasty things. And don't drop the shells down the headless Jesus! Why do I have a headless Jesus????

I used to be a NY sophisticate who attended the ballet and opera three nights a week when I was in town. Now I house inflatable mooses, religious hideobilia and wandering musicians from all over the world.

No - Mudcat has had absolutely no influence on my life.


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Ebbie
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 12:44 PM

LOL


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Amos
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 02:10 PM

I think you need a Headless Buddha to even things out, Mary.

And if the trailer bothers you, you can always let the air out of its tires.

That'd fix it!!


;>)


A


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: SINSULL
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 10:15 PM

My Buddha has a head as does Shiva. The Lourdes grotto is missing a few stones and a light but Mary and Bernadette are whole.Jacqui on the other hand is one ace short of a deck.


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Little Hawk
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 10:19 PM

Mary, you should see if you can get one of these...

leg lamp


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Ebbie
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 11:08 PM

As I recall, Little Hawk, she tried.


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Cluin
Date: 08 Jan 07 - 11:19 PM

And opted for the Red Ryder BB gun instead.


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 04:07 AM

Why do I have a headless Jesus????

She don't care if she gets the sneezes,
Sinsull got a headless Jesus
Layin in the garden all the while.
She gets a cold, she know's just what'll
take away that phlegm and snottle
And He'll replace it with a smile!


Sorry... it's early and I've not had much sleep.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: fat B****rd
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 04:18 AM

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.........fishnets...


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 05:09 AM

I have no influence on my cats, except at feeding time....


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: SINSULL
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 07:26 AM

I did but they were sold out. I am bidding on eBay but $200 is bit steep for a joke. Maybe one will turn up at the Goddwill shop.


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: jacqui.c
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 07:42 AM

OK lads and lassies - if you see one of them there lamps at a reasonable price let me know. Maybe we can satisfy SINSULL's urges....


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: kendall
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 08:41 AM

Being a Taurus, I'm not influenced by anything.


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Leadfingers
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 05:36 PM

DEFINATELY NOT !!!


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 06:14 PM

Nooooo... not at all...

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: I have not been influenced by Mudcat
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 09 Jan 07 - 06:14 PM

***100***

Not influenced at all.

LTS


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