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Liz the Squeak 14 Nov 01 - 05:27 PM
GUEST,Paul 14 Nov 01 - 04:19 PM
Guessed 14 Nov 01 - 04:01 PM
brid widder 14 Nov 01 - 03:09 PM
brid widder 14 Nov 01 - 02:38 PM
Keith A of Hertford 14 Nov 01 - 02:26 PM
mousethief 14 Nov 01 - 02:03 PM
cyder_drinker 14 Nov 01 - 01:46 PM
brid widder 14 Nov 01 - 01:00 PM
GUEST,Paul 14 Nov 01 - 10:20 AM
Bat Goddess 14 Nov 01 - 10:06 AM
Ringer 14 Nov 01 - 09:36 AM
Sarah the flute 14 Nov 01 - 03:37 AM
catspaw49 13 Nov 01 - 11:10 PM
Sourdough 13 Nov 01 - 11:10 PM
Joe Offer 13 Nov 01 - 10:45 PM
Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull 13 Nov 01 - 10:28 PM
catspaw49 13 Nov 01 - 10:23 PM
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Subject: RE: bellringing
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 14 Nov 01 - 05:27 PM

I used to, don't have many towers here in London that aren't wired for sound or muted. Have rung on the heaviest 8 in the country (Sherborne Abbey) and the lightest 10 in the world(The mobile ringing tower that was set up in the grounds of Salisbury Cathedral in Sept 1982 - the 100th anniversary of the Salisbury Diocesan Guild of Ringers and my 18th birthday!). Managed to 'grab' about 80 towers up and down the country.

It was fun, but I preferred to sing, so gave it up for the folk club....

LTS


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Subject: RE: bellringing
From: GUEST,Paul
Date: 14 Nov 01 - 04:19 PM

triskadekophobic = fear of the number 13

Nice word! Thanks, Guessed.

Mousthief, is your largest bell really only 12 inches across? Can't be very loud...

Paul


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Subject: RE: bellringing
From: Guessed
Date: 14 Nov 01 - 04:01 PM

Upton-u-Severn May bank Holiday (the May BH next year) has a peel of sorts. AND Tewkesbury nearby has bells numbered from 1 to 12 with a 5A. Are you triskadekophobic?


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Subject: RE: bellringing
From: brid widder
Date: 14 Nov 01 - 03:09 PM

actually Keith I know the bellringing song ...

'One day in October neither drunken nor sober o'er Bradbury Down I was wending my way, when I heard of some ringing some dancing and singing, I ought to remember that jubilee day...

and so on...I've sung it...relatively regularly for several years but never thought I'd actually be a bellringer!! maybe one day I'll ring 'for a belt and a hat laced with gold'


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Subject: RE: bellringing
From: brid widder
Date: 14 Nov 01 - 02:38 PM

I have only just started about 3 weeks ago...I go to practice nights and have had a few individual lessons with the clappers tied to try and get the knack of pulling the rope...which is not as easy as it looks. This week I 'covered' on plain hunt apparently!!! of course I had a lot of help...with an expert holding the sallie.I know it'll be a long time before I'm let loose on a sunday morning!

I ring at Holy Trinity in Hull...15 bells!!! 2 x 12s 26 combinations(I think thats right) no it doesn't make sense to me but those who know bells might understand!! the biggest bell is a ton and a half! Two local towers have joined forces and early next year we will start ringing at St Mary's Lowgate...the bells there have been silent since 1956!!!I can't do a blue clicky thing but have a look at www.lowgate.org.uk


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Subject: RE: bellringing
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 14 Nov 01 - 02:26 PM

There is a fine bell ringing song on the site.It's about a contest between village teams.
Keith.


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Subject: RE: bellringing
From: mousethief
Date: 14 Nov 01 - 02:03 PM

I'm a bellringer at our parish. We only have small bells (the largest is maybe 12" across at the mouth), and only 4 which is (of course) not enough to ring changes, which is one of the most mathematical of musical adventures. I keep plugging for getting a full octave. We shall see.

alex


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Subject: RE: bellringing
From: cyder_drinker
Date: 14 Nov 01 - 01:46 PM

I have been a bellringer since 1995 (sounds like an AA meeting!)
Musicians would relate to this: You know that time in a sesion, when suddenly something clicks with everyone at the same moment and the music takes on a life of its own, and becomes something much larger than the sum of people playing? The intense feeling of euphoria and kind of "natural high" that you get when this happens?
Well when you get it right whilst ringing bells as part of a team - timing spot on, the rhythm is flowing - that's the same feeling.
Oh, and it's also really nice when you stop after a full peal (which can take up to 4 hours on the bigger rings!)

Where do you ring, Bridwidder? My "home tower" is St Mary Redcliffe, Bristol.


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Subject: RE: bellringing
From: brid widder
Date: 14 Nov 01 - 01:00 PM

Thanks everyone...anyone who has chance and has never tried change ringing I'd recommend to have a go...I think it would be an interesting topic for a workshop at a festival especially at week long ones like say Whitby.

Bald Eagle I know what you mean about it being almost as good as a sing and a beer, and I am encouraged to know it will take such a long time to get to grips even with the basics...I am an absolute beginner and thought I was just hopeless!!

I quite like the idea that it's an 'unlikely' pastime!!


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Subject: RE: bellringing
From: GUEST,Paul
Date: 14 Nov 01 - 10:20 AM

General Information on Change Ringing

Quite interesting (to me, anyhow)

Paul


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Subject: RE: bellringing
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 14 Nov 01 - 10:06 AM

My change ringing experience is strictly a fantasy (not many opportunities in this neck of the woods) based on "The Nine Tailors" by Dorothy L. Sayers. Oh, and a delightful juvenile book about bells whose title escapes me.

Bat Goddess (I've got bats, but no bellfry)


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Subject: RE: bellringing
From: Ringer
Date: 14 Nov 01 - 09:36 AM

I think member, IanC, is also a ringer. And occasional contributor "GUEST French Guest" ditto.

As to the attraction of ringing changes, it's just not describable in words - it has to be experienced; unfortunately, you have to be able to control a bell first (say 3 months practice), then place your bell accurately amongst all the others (anything from another 3 months to 6 years) before you can get that experience. But when you are ringing changes to an interesting method with a good band, the enjoyment is immense - almost as good as singing-with-beer.

It's always struck me that ringing is a very unlikely pasttime.


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Subject: RE: bellringing
From: Sarah the flute
Date: 14 Nov 01 - 03:37 AM

I've tried it a long time ago in Devon where I grew up but decided it wasn't for me. However my mum who is in her eighties still rings regularly as does my deputy here at work who is also an avid fan. Keep ringing!!!


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Subject: RE: bellringing
From: catspaw49
Date: 13 Nov 01 - 11:10 PM

That's what I was talking about John. I enjoyed the TV series too, but the books have always been great reading. We got 'em all.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: bellringing
From: Sourdough
Date: 13 Nov 01 - 11:10 PM

I rang bells for a couple of years in high school. We had chapel services eight times a eek and for each service a bellringer climbed the tower and we played three or four hymns while the students assembled below. I never understood the attraction of ringing changes though except as a technical achievment.

Our bells were rung by depressing large levers hard and fast. It was fairly demanding physical activity. The biggest strain was the fear of making a very public mistake on a well known melody. An odd thing is that not only don't I remember ever making a mistake, I don't remember anyone else making one either so I suspect that selective memory is at work here.

I forget now but I think we had a peal of no more than fourteen bells but it seemed that the rank of levers stretched a very long way.

The scariest part was thatwe never could practice quietly. We could mime he lever sequences, just jiggling the handles but when it came time to play, the sound spread out over the little Connecticut town. Even though none of us ever got more than a few years experience ringing bells, we became a fixture in town and I like to believe that many of the residents of the town associate the bells fondly with their home.

Steve


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Subject: RE: bellringing
From: Joe Offer
Date: 13 Nov 01 - 10:45 PM

I used to ring the Angelus bell at our parish when I was in grammar school. The bell could be heard for miles around, so we altar boys thought that was a cool job to get. We used to beg Brother Anthony to let us do it.

Are there techniques for ringing a single bell so it has more than just a regular rhythm? We just rang it twelve times and stopped - Animaterra's message made me think some single bells may be rung differently.

-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: bellringing
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 13 Nov 01 - 10:28 PM

Spaw-Have you reads the books by James Herriot? I would definetley recomend them.john


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Subject: RE: bellringing
From: catspaw49
Date: 13 Nov 01 - 10:23 PM

One of my favorite stories from the "All Creatures Great and Small" series was the story of Tristan and the Christmas Peel. I'd love to know more about it.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: bellringing
From: Sorcha
Date: 13 Nov 01 - 10:21 PM

I love campanille bells, the real hand rung ones, not the computer generated ring. I went to a Handbell concert once, and all the songs sounded like the same song. Oh well. I can see the attraction to ringing either,though.


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Subject: RE: bellringing
From: 53
Date: 13 Nov 01 - 10:07 PM

we used to hear them on sunday morning but now its been replaced with the radio. BOB


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Subject: RE: bellringing
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 13 Nov 01 - 09:47 PM

I tried change ringing in my youth- even rang in Old North Church, Boston, on the 18th of April in '75 (1975, that is). I didn't have the kind of brain required to figure out the changes beyond Plain Hunt or a simple change, so when I moved away from any towers it was easy for me to gracefully retire. I still love the sound of the bells, though I almost never hear them anymore.


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Subject: bellringing
From: brid widder
Date: 13 Nov 01 - 07:52 PM

I recently saw a post from Bald Eagle mentioning bellringing. I've just started ringing (tower not handbells) and wondered if any other mudcatters had given it a try? after all it has commponents that most of us would find ap'peal'ing(sorry). Granted you wouldn't be welcome at many sessions with a two ton instrument but it is musical and traditional, involves commitment and team work, and it's really good fun! I've been thinking about all the folk festival towns that have bells...I hope when I've got a bit of skill I can disturb you at...Warwick, Beverley, Otley, Whitby....


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