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St. Patrick's Day favourites

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alison 08 Feb 98 - 12:55 AM
Ralph Butts 08 Feb 98 - 09:13 AM
Alice 08 Feb 98 - 11:07 AM
Bruce O. 08 Feb 98 - 12:52 PM
Bruce O. 08 Feb 98 - 01:25 PM
Rosie 08 Feb 98 - 02:41 PM
Ralph Butts 08 Feb 98 - 04:25 PM
Barry Finn 08 Feb 98 - 05:27 PM
Phideaux 08 Feb 98 - 06:09 PM
BAZ 08 Feb 98 - 06:45 PM
Jaxon 09 Feb 98 - 08:13 AM
Jon W. 09 Feb 98 - 10:22 AM
David 09 Feb 98 - 12:00 PM
Wolfgang Hell 09 Feb 98 - 12:31 PM
Phideaux 09 Feb 98 - 12:36 PM
Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca 09 Feb 98 - 07:05 PM
Rick --- obaoighill@earthlink.net 09 Feb 98 - 10:20 PM
rich r 09 Feb 98 - 10:23 PM
Tim 10 Feb 98 - 04:02 PM
alison 10 Feb 98 - 04:56 PM
Jaxon 11 Feb 98 - 11:18 AM
Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca 11 Feb 98 - 06:14 PM
Phideaux 20 Feb 98 - 12:56 PM
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Subject: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: alison
Date: 08 Feb 98 - 12:55 AM

Hi,

Just thought it would be interesting to find out what you expect to hear on St. Patrick's Day..... You know that one song which need to played in order for your day to be complete.

I don't mind if you tell me the one's you'd rather not hear too..... you know the homesick drunk sobbing a version of "Danny boy" into a glass of green beer.

Slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Ralph Butts
Date: 08 Feb 98 - 09:13 AM

I guess I like them all, but if I had to name one it would be:

"Where the River Shannon Flows"

.....Tiger


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Alice
Date: 08 Feb 98 - 11:07 AM

(Danny Boy is the one I need to sing, whether anyone hears me or not). It's hard to choose just one, but there is a tenor in my town who does a great "Mist Covered Mountains of Home". That would be my choice this year. alice, in mt


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Bruce O.
Date: 08 Feb 98 - 12:52 PM

"Danny Boy" was set to an Irish tune, "Londonderry Air" (I think there's an old thread on this) but the song isn't Irish.


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Subject: Lyr Add: ST. PATRICK'S DAY
From: Bruce O.
Date: 08 Feb 98 - 01:25 PM

Here's a couple of old tunes that maybe someone can supply songs for.

St. Patrick's Day [in the morning]. Here is an early and strange copy. The familiar tune is the 6/8 part at the end. Read sideways S over a note as 'tr'.

X:1 T:ST. PATRICK'S DAY N:Oswald's Caledonian Pocket Companion N:Bk. 11, c 1759-60 Q:60 M:C L:1/4 K:G D/2E/2 GG(A/2B/2)|d3/2e/2 (d/2B/2)(A/2G/2)|B(A/2B/2) (c/2B/2)(A/2G/2)|EE~E3/2D/2|(D/2E/2)G(G/2A/2)(B/2c/2)|d3/2e/2 (d/2B/2)(A/2G/2)|B(A/2B/2) (c/2B/2)(A/2G/2)|EGG2::d(e/2g/2)g3/2f/2|(g/2f/2)(e/2d/2)~e(d/2B/2)|d(e/2g/2)g3/2f/2|(g/2f/2)(e/2d/2)e3/2g/2|(d/2B/2)(A/2G/2)G(A/2B/2)|d3/2e/2 (d/2B/2)(A/2G/2)|g3/2e/2 (d/2B/2)(A/2G/2)|EEE3/2G/2|(D/2E/2)G(G/2A/2)(B/2d/2)|(e/2c/2)(B/2G/2) (d/2B/2)(A/2G/2)|BA/2B/2 (c/2B/2)(A/2G/2)|EGG2:|M:6/8 L:1/8 GAG GAB|ded dBA|BAB BAG|EFE~E2D|GAG GAB|ded dBG|~BAB BGD|E3G3:: def g2e|f2d~e2B|def g2e|~f2de3|def g2e|~f2d edB|defg2e|~f2de2g|dBG GAB|ded dBG|BAB BGE|EFE E2D|GAG GAB|ded dBG|BAB BGE|~E3G3:|]

X:2 T:St. Patrick's Day in the Evening N:R. Bride's 24 Country Dances for the Year 1766 Q:60 M:6/8 L:1/8 K:Dm (d2e) (f2g)|fed^c2A|(d2e) (f2g)|afd^c2A|(d2e) (f2g)|(A3 A)GF|G2AB2G|AFDD3::F2F F2/F/2cF|A2F cAF|G2AB2G|cAG FDE|F2F F/2F/2cF|A2F cAF|G2AB2G|AFDD3:|]


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Rosie
Date: 08 Feb 98 - 02:41 PM

It'll have to start off with: IF YOU'RE IRISH COME INTO THE PARLOR followed by ISLE OF INNISFREE then AN IRISH SOLDIER BOY.* * * * * * Ahhhh! :^)


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Ralph Butts
Date: 08 Feb 98 - 04:25 PM

Alison......

I'm glad you started this thread, because it highlights an interesting musical genre. That is, what I always thought were Irish songs, at least what people sang around St. Patrick's day. Now'days, I know a little better.

In fact, there's not a Fenian or an Orangeman to be found. No Gaelic, no mountain dew. Most of the popular St. Pat's songs come right out of Tin Pan Alley (Forty Shades of Green was written by Johnny Cash, for God's sake). That's not to say they aren't great (or even produced by Irishman) - just a comment that what we enjoy as good music has many roots, some patently commercial.

Were I to sing my REAL Irish songs at the St. Pat's parties, the reception would be lukewarm, at best. Other times, OK.

Anxiously awaiting other folks' selections......Tiger


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE HARP WITHOUT THE CROWN
From: Barry Finn
Date: 08 Feb 98 - 05:27 PM

A different version (more related to St. Patrick's Day) of "The Harp Without The Crown" than what's in the DT.


T'was of a famous Yankee ship
To New York she was bound
The captain being an Irishman
Belonged to Dublin Town

Ch. Harrah, harrah, to the gals of Dublin Town
Harrah for the bonnie green flag & the harp without the crown

And when he gazes land
That town of high renown
It's break away the green burgee
And the harp without the crown

The stars & stripes way high aloft
And fluttering all around
But underneath her monkey gaff
Flew the harp without the crown

T'was on the 17th of March
We arrived in New York Bay
The captain being an Irishman
Must celebrate the day

And now we're bound for Frisco, boys
And things are getting wild
The officers & men dead drunk
Around the decks they pile

But by tomorrow morning sir
We'll work without a frown
For on the saucy Shenandoah
Flies the harp without the crown

"Also called 'The Shenandoah' or 'The Gals Of Dublin Town'. Joanna Colcord has it as a forebitter or foc's'le song sung to the tune of 'The Banks Of Newfoundland' Hugill has it as a capstan shanty with the verses sung similar to the tune of 'The Wearing Of The Green' & the chorus 'The Bonnie Blue Flag", from Hugill's Shanties Of The Seven Seas.
Barry


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Phideaux
Date: 08 Feb 98 - 06:09 PM

I'm happy hearing "Johnson's Motor Car". May not be PC anymore, but I like it.

Bob Schwarer


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: BAZ
Date: 08 Feb 98 - 06:45 PM

The ones we play down at our local on St Patricks cos we like are: The Galway Shawl Spanish Lady (the tune as a polka) Bantry girls lament and Banks of the Morlough shore

Keep the list going

regards Baz


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Jaxon
Date: 09 Feb 98 - 08:13 AM

Being Irish all year round exposes me to more than the once a year type. Four Green Fields, Kilkelly, A Nation Once Again, Peter Pan & Me and Spancil Hill are some that I like to play or hear all year round.

Jack Murray


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Jon W.
Date: 09 Feb 98 - 10:22 AM

How about "The Minstrel Boy." I was at the St. Patrick's Day parade last year in Salt Lake City, and it seemed like every bagpipe band in the state marched through playing that tune (not that I didn't enjoy it).


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: David
Date: 09 Feb 98 - 12:00 PM

Hmmm.... for fun, i would have to say: Wild Rover, or maybe Old Dun Cow. For the lament and love: The Nightingale and Caledonia (actually a Scottish song I believe.) And for the rousing rebel spirit: Irish Soldier Laddie, Kevin barry, and A Nation Once Again. I'd have to go with Bob on the non-PC thing. Along with "Johnson's" there could be "the Broad Black Brimmer" and "Come Out Ye Black and Tans." Songs not to hear: "The Sash My Father Wore"

Slán! David


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Wolfgang Hell
Date: 09 Feb 98 - 12:31 PM

Jack Murray,
I know all the songs mentioned so far, but I've never ever heard of "Peter Pan and me". I'm curious.
Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Phideaux
Date: 09 Feb 98 - 12:36 PM

How about "Bold Fenian Men"?

Bob S.


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca
Date: 09 Feb 98 - 07:05 PM

Foggy Dew. Being opposed to stirring up old quarrels I prefer the love song version.

I also like the song that Celtic Thunder sings about Paddy getting married, the name of which I can never remember.

A Nation Once Again, in both the slow and fast versions.

You always hear the Unicorn Song, which seems to be associated with the Irish merely because The Irish Rovers sang it. (Shel Silverstein wrote it.)

Up here they sometimes throw in a few Newfoundland songs, which in some cases could well be of Irish origin anyway. They often throw in a few Scottish tunes too, and few of the drunks notice.

They never sing the slow, melancholy love songs at which the Irish excel, probably because it's hard to make out slow, melancholy love songs over the din of hundreds of roaring drunks. "When A Man's In Love" is one such, and although the Chieftains did it I wouldn't swear that it is Irish in origin.

I also like a band that doesn't just do the pub favourites, but does sets of dances too.

Please, stay away from that silly green beer. Drink real Irish brew (why drink green Bud when you can drink real Guinness Extra Stout?), and real Irish whiskey (neat, not in Irish coffee.) I rather like that Irish whiskey called Redbreast, although it is a rare pub here that carries it.


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Rick --- obaoighill@earthlink.net
Date: 09 Feb 98 - 10:20 PM

Alison, Actually, I'll be playing on St Pats. I like to hear (and play) rebel songs. My favorites are "I wish I was back home in Derry" written by Bobby Sands, "Foggy Dew"(the one about easter week 1916), and "Follow me up to Carlow". Songs I could go all year without hearing are "The Unicorn", "Kerrigan", and "when Irish eyes are smiling". I do play them, but the tip (or whiskey) has to up front.

Slainte Rick


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: rich r
Date: 09 Feb 98 - 10:23 PM

In two contrasting moods, I love to hear Mary Black sing "Song For Ireland" and Tommy Makem do "Freedom's Sons" then go and sing "The Patriot Game"

rich r


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Tim
Date: 10 Feb 98 - 04:02 PM

We're also playing on St. Pat's day, but at a sort of redneck Irish bar, so we don't get any grief over the rebel songs.

Among the most requested is the dreaded Unicorn song, Danny Boy, A Nation Once Again, Seven Drunken Nights, Maid of Fife, Mary Mac and generally anything they can stomp too (clapping being next to impossible while standing and holding a beer).

We also eschew the ballads because of the crowd noise. Our favorites include One Morning in May (a version of the Nightengale), Right All Right, and a rather uptempo Star of the County Down segueing right into a rocking Kid on the Mountain.


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: alison
Date: 10 Feb 98 - 04:56 PM

Hi

Yes, Alan and I are playing too. We just thought it would be good to hear what other people are doing.

Keep the ideas coming.

Slainte

Alison


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Jaxon
Date: 11 Feb 98 - 11:18 AM

Wolfgang - The song Peter Pan & Me was recorded by Moloney, O'Connell & Keane on their "Kilkelly" album. It was written by Mickey McConnell (?sp) who also wrote "Only Our Rivers Run Free". My original tape is missing but I will get a replacement this week and post the lyrics. For more info on Robbie O'Conell try his web site -

http://www.celtica.com/robbieoconnell/

He well worth the effort to see him if he tours near you.

Jack Murray


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca
Date: 11 Feb 98 - 06:14 PM

If the drunks like to stomp, try "The Old Dun Cow." (the song where everyone shouts "MCINTYRE!".

Pity about The Unicorn Song. It's actually a rather nice childrens' tune but it has been done to death.


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Phideaux
Date: 20 Feb 98 - 12:56 PM

Heard another song today which would be good for St Patrick's day: "Kelly, the Boy From Killane".

Hadn't heard that in a while.

BTW our old parish priest would get livid if anyone would refer the good saint as Pat or Paddy.

Bob Schwarer


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: NEWFOUNDLANDER
Date: 20 Feb 98 - 04:15 PM

Here's an excellent site for those Paddy's Day singalongs. http://pantheon.cis.yale.edu/~declaris/ballads/songs.html


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: leprechaun
Date: 22 Feb 98 - 02:36 AM

I heard a song on the radio about an Irish musician who comes to America and everywhere he goes to play music, the people get mad because he doesn't play "real Irish" songs. The chorus went: "You're not Irish, you can't be Irish, you don't know Danny Boy, nor TooRaLooTaLooRa, or even Irish Eyes. You've got a hell of a nerve to say you came from Ireland. Now cut out all the nonsense and sing MacNamara'a Band."

Nevertheless, my third generation, west coast USA St. Patrick's Day would be tragically incomplete without the following songs:

It's the Same Old Shillelagh, A Nation Once Again, Seven Nights Drunk, Wearin' of the Green, Whiskey in the Jar, To Welcome Paddy Home, Mrs. Murphy's Chowder, Foggy Dew, Danny Boy, Carrickfergus, Too Ra Loo Ra Loo Ra, Song For Ireland, Both Sides the Tweed, Mother Machree, Finnegan's Wake, The Rose of Tralee, Bold Fenian Men, The Back Door, Arthur McBride, Boulavogue, Mo Ghile Mear...

I probably won't get to hear all of them on March 17, but fortunately for me, St. Patrick's day is 365 days a year.

I've yet to hear "Johnson's Motor Car" or "The Patriot Game," though the lyrics are in my lost Dubliner's Song Book. Can somebody recommend a good anthology of revolutionary songs on CD? Then I could sing along with David & Phideaux, while drinking my Jameson's straight.


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Joe Offer
Date: 22 Feb 98 - 04:35 AM

Leprechaun, Columbia/Legacy has a two-disc Clancy Brothers/Tommy Makem set called "Ain't It Grand, Boys: unissued gems." It has "Johnson's Motor Car," "Patriot Game," and a good number of other good songs that maybe didn't make it to LP's years ago because they were too political. The title song is really powerful. As I recall, the collection wasn't very expensive. You get about a hundred minutes of music for maybe twenty bucks. That ain't bad for Columbia, which seems to like to give you 70 minutes of reissued music on two CD's and charge you $25 or more.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Martin Ryan
Date: 22 Feb 98 - 12:20 PM

Tim (Jaques)

"When a man's in love" is certainly sung in the tradition in the North of Ireland. That wouldn't stop it being, e.g., Scots, of course!

Tim (smae?). I'm intrigued byt the reference to "One morning in may" and the Nightingale! The "one morning" I know is to a very beautiful tune and is one of my favourites. Which "Nightingale"? The ship?

Regards


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Alice
Date: 22 Feb 98 - 12:34 PM

Tim made the point above that the slow love songs get lost in the roar and stomping of the crowd on March 17. So true, but regretable, since the roller-coaster of emotions from laughing to crying is such a part of the BIG experience of the day. A couple of weeks ago when I was asked to stand and sing a song at our session, I started by saying, "This is a song my father used to sing." That brought a big roar, since the crowd seemed to expect a drinking or rebel song. Then I stood there for half a minute, (because I couldn't remember how it started!!) and commented, "My father was a very quiet man." (Trying to buy some time until I could jog my memory) Which brought a big laugh. Then, I started the song, and it was "The Rose of Tralee". By the end of the two verses I sang, the woman in front of me was wiping tears from her cheeks. I think part of it was the idea that my real Irish father used to sing such a sweet song. When I was a girl, I would sit at the piano and play The Rose of Tralee and he would come and stand by me and sing. alice, montana


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Phideaux
Date: 22 Feb 98 - 01:41 PM

A beautiful song.

Bob S.


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Bruce O.
Date: 22 Feb 98 - 03:34 PM

Which "Wearing of the Green" are you talking about? The tune "Wearing of the Green" (Oswald's "The Tulip", 1747) was known before Dion Boucicault's song "The Wearing of the Green" was written (for 'Arrah na Pogue', 1865). My request for the older song on the Irish music list (IRTRAD-L) has gone unanswered. Does anyone here know it?
Re: Timothy J.'s question, yes, which "Nightingale"?
"Tim Finnegan's Wake" (air- "The French Musician", commencing "Tim Finnegan lived in Walker Street") is by John F. Poole, according to John K. Casey in his 'The Rising of the Moon, and other Ballads, Songs and Legends.'


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Phideaux
Date: 22 Feb 98 - 03:41 PM

Keeping in this vein, I used to hear "Kathleen Mavourneen" back when I was a kid in Wisconsin. Had a 12" 78 of it until the famous house cleaning. It's a real nice song as is "I'll Take You Home Again Kathleen".

Another good song is really Canadian, but Maura O'Connel did it when she was with Da Dannen. That would be "Maggie".

Bob Schwarer


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Bruce O.
Date: 22 Feb 98 - 04:33 PM

Which "Kathleen Mavourneen"?

"Kathleen Ma Vourneen Cushlah Ma Chree" (printed in 1826, and probably earlier) commences "O distant, but dear, is that sweet little island" (no author cited). This was to the tune of "The Humours of Glen", an Irish tune.

"Kathleen Mavourneen', by an Irish Woman with a Scots name, Mrs. Crawford, c 1835, commences "Kathleen Mavourneen! The grey dawn is breaking". Tune for this one is by F. W. N. Crouch.


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Bruce O.
Date: 22 Feb 98 - 04:48 PM

Sorry, on rereading Timothy J.'s posting the "Nightingle" he meant is obvious. I thought I had posted the original version of it, but can't find it among the threads here. I'll go dig it up and post it to a new thread.


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: hanrahan
Date: 23 Feb 98 - 08:01 AM

Leprechaun, the song you heard on the radio is Robbie O'Connell's.

hanrahan


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Martin Ryan
Date: 23 Feb 98 - 10:16 AM

Bruce

Depends which side of the problem you're approaching from! I was assuming the "One morning in May" was this one:

One morning in May, as I carelessly did stray
Down by yon green gardens where lambs sport and play
In the clear morning dew, as I lay down to muse
A fair maiden of honour, apeared in my view.

I see the other connection alright.

Anyway.....

Regards


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Bruce O.
Date: 23 Feb 98 - 12:19 PM

Martin, where does yours come from? It doesn't look like the one 'Nightingale (Wreck)' in DT. A fragment of an extreme variant of the DT one is in Kidson's 'Traditional Tunes', and I think I've seen other versions of it but can't recall any of the other titles.


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Martin Ryan
Date: 23 Feb 98 - 04:44 PM

We'll sort this out yet. I don't think its anything to do with the Nightingale (ship or soldier) at all! Its just that Tim wasn't talking about "One morning in May", as I know it.

I'll post it later

Regards


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Bruce O.
Date: 23 Feb 98 - 08:16 PM

Leprechaun, both Dominic Behan's "The Patriot Game" and also the song "Johnson's Motor Car" are sung by Behan on 'Easter Week and After', Topic 12T44 (1958, rereleased with new notes, 1965.)


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Tim O'Kane
Date: 24 Feb 98 - 12:13 PM

Martin and Buce. "One Morning in May" tells a similar story with similar lyrics to The Nightengale (about the soldier). However, it's a different melody, different time signature, and sung somewhat slower. Also, there is no chorus, just verses.


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: leprechaun
Date: 28 Feb 98 - 03:51 PM

Some day I'll get to venture out into the world and listen to some of you play on St. Patrick's Day.


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca
Date: 02 Mar 98 - 10:32 PM

What is Ireland's national anthem, anyway? I'm sure I must have heard it at some point but can't recall.

I am also thinking of another soft song you don't hear often, at least in pubs. It has the lines:

When my ship is anchored, and my journey o'er
I'll make my way, to Erin's shore
And in my native counteree . . .

You also tend to hear Pogues songs on Saint Patrick's Day.


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Marc B
Date: 03 Mar 98 - 01:49 AM

What a great idea for a thread. Thanks, Allison.

I'll be playing with old friends and compatriots in Seattle over the course of the St. Patrick's weekend and day. Fortunately, the first gig is a concert so I get to do the slow stuff that's tough on the day itself.

A song I can't START St. Patrick's Day without is the U.S. national anthem. I introduce myself and the song by saying it's a traditional opening song set to the tune of an old drinking song, then sing a sean nos version of the Star Spangled Banner. The first year I tried it I was sure there would be dead silence then loud guffaws, accompanied by mass exodus. To my delight and surprise the entire pub, full to the gills, sang it in full throat. Haven't started without it since.

A few of my other "got to do it today"

Foggy Dew(Rebel version) Song For Ireland Green Fields of Canada(my favorite song to sing, period) Kilkelly Men Behind the Wire Mo Ghile Mear Lannigan's Ball McGinty's Meal and Ale(yeah, so it's Scottish) Green Fields of France Raglan Road Parting Glass Peeler and the Goat Dun Cow Paddy Lay Back St. Patrick Was a Gentleman My Name is Jock Stewart Easy & Slow Lily of the West Rocky Road to Dublin Monto Teddy Bear's Head Finnegan's Wake British Army Black & Tans Rambling Rover(Andy Stewart, yeah, I know it's Scottish ,too) Barrett's Privateers & Mary Ellen Carter(Stan Rogers) There Were Roses(I gotta be up for this, it kills me everytime, but a good answer to the rebel songs if you're conscious is bothering you).

RE: PC. I don't have much trouble with rebel songs. They are mostly from historical periods and for me celebrate people who have been willing to give all for what they believe in. I don't think it is an endorsement of current terrorist tactics. It does concern me some though, and I worry that some day I'm going to hurt someone in the audience who has lost a friend, relation, or ancestor to rebel violence. Funny thing is, I really consider myself more of a traditional English folk singer than Irish, though my repertoire is about 1/3 Irish, 1/3 English, 1/3 Scottish, with some Aussie, American, and tons of sea shanties(that at one time having been my speciality). Yeah, I know that doesn't add up to 100:) At the same time that I identify more personally with English stuff, I realize that the traditional rebel stuff alone has made my more Republican(Irish, not American) in my emotional views. My intellectual ideas are much more conflicted, other than being optimistic that a way to peace will be found one day - hopefully soon. But I do notice that I don't sing any Protestant songs of force. And a final note, I like to sing Rebel songs because they have in abundance an edge, a passion, which is the element of song, in any genre, that I am attracted to sing.

My, I could just go on. Throw in the lot of Australian, Scottish and English songs. Truth is, I use St. Patrick's Day, since it's a long gig, to sing every damn song I know! I don't do the Irish Eyes stuff, not because I object to it, but because I don't do it well, not my style, and there's usually some good tenor in the crowd who can pull it off, even besotted, better than I.

I'm new to this forum(though I've had a downloaded DigiTrad for a year or so) and haven't figured out how or if there is a way to address any of you individually or if there is another way to chat beside these threads. In any case I am glad to have found you.

Marc B Marcbridge@aol.com


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Wolfgang Hell
Date: 03 Mar 98 - 04:33 AM

for Tim Jaques: here's A soldier's song in English, Irish and with music.
Wolfgang


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: alison
Date: 03 Mar 98 - 06:36 PM

Hi Marc,

THanks for that and welcome. If you go back to the main Mudcat page you should find something to click on about subscribing (it doesn't have to cost anything), then you'll be able to send us personal messages, if you want to... most of us use these threads to communicate anyway.

Slainte

Alison


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Mandy
Date: 03 Mar 99 - 10:36 AM

Steven,

Hi sweetheart. I just want you to know that I love you and Im thnking of you while Im in school.

Don't give up on us!!!!!!!

Love Mandy


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Rich and Dee (inactive)
Date: 03 Mar 99 - 02:34 PM

Hi,

This song will never make anyone's top ten, but I've always thought the Pogues' Thousands Are Sailing is a must for St Patrick's Day. It may also be the finest emigration song written in quite a few years.

The line "Where'r we go we celebrate the land that made us refugees..." gives me chills.

We tried to play it one year on St Patrick's Day and the noise and the drone in the pub was such that only "Whiskey in the Jar" could register with anyone.

Rich


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Scotty Rotten
Date: 03 Mar 99 - 06:28 PM

COME OUT YE BLACK AND TANS!!!


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Terry
Date: 03 Mar 99 - 07:51 PM

I like to hear songs about Irish places on St. Patrick's Day. They evoke nostalgia, yet are somehow less sorrowful than most immigration songs. Two of my favorites are Galway Bay and The Cliffs of Dooneen. Christy Moore's version of the latter is lovely.


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Subject: RE: St. Patrick's Day favourites
From: Brakn
Date: 03 Mar 99 - 08:01 PM

It's A Great Day For The Irish (as sung by Judy Garland)


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