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UN Conference on Racism

GUEST 03 Sep 01 - 02:02 PM
wysiwyg 03 Sep 01 - 02:20 PM
GUEST 03 Sep 01 - 02:54 PM
GUEST,Little Jewford 03 Sep 01 - 04:24 PM
GUEST,Screw This 03 Sep 01 - 04:33 PM
marty D 03 Sep 01 - 05:41 PM
DougR 03 Sep 01 - 06:49 PM
toadfrog 03 Sep 01 - 06:54 PM
GUEST 03 Sep 01 - 07:49 PM
kendall 03 Sep 01 - 08:03 PM
Sorcha 03 Sep 01 - 08:25 PM
Peg 03 Sep 01 - 08:29 PM
Justa Picker 03 Sep 01 - 08:52 PM
RangerSteve 03 Sep 01 - 09:16 PM
DougR 03 Sep 01 - 09:20 PM
wysiwyg 03 Sep 01 - 09:40 PM
Sorcha 03 Sep 01 - 09:49 PM
Rick Fielding 03 Sep 01 - 09:57 PM
wysiwyg 03 Sep 01 - 10:06 PM
Don Firth 03 Sep 01 - 10:42 PM
kendall 04 Sep 01 - 09:26 AM
SINSULL 04 Sep 01 - 02:06 PM
Arnie 04 Sep 01 - 02:12 PM
GUEST,Sol Rosenberg 04 Sep 01 - 02:18 PM
McGrath of Harlow 04 Sep 01 - 02:31 PM
Jack the Sailor 04 Sep 01 - 02:53 PM
kendall 04 Sep 01 - 03:58 PM
Wesley S 04 Sep 01 - 04:14 PM
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Art Thieme 04 Sep 01 - 06:08 PM
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Subject: UN Conference on Racism
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 02:02 PM

The United Nations Conference on Racism in Durban, South Africa has confirmed that Zionism is a racist political philosophy and that Israel is an Apartheid state based on the superiority of Jews.

Jews, and their appologists like Colin Powell and the New York Times, are outraged, but the world now sees Israel and the Jews for what they truly are.


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 02:20 PM

Now there's a music post.

~S~


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 02:54 PM

JEWS DEFYING GOD (Homosexuality & Free-sex They Promote)

The Jews now through their propagandists try convincing the world,especially, the Christians, that Zionism is God way. Those who believe in God, should help the Jews in conquering the world, because the Jews is the chosen nation. But is it true?

We all know aware that the Jews now conquering the world. No one could be the president of USA without having permission from the Jews which dominate the political and financial power, and also the mass media. Lately we hear how the Jews press the CNN which broadcast news about the children killing by the Israel soldiers. The CNN send their 3 representatives to meet Israel PM, Ehud Barak, and tone down the coverage there (now we almost hear no more about the killings there by Israel in CNN). We also know that Hollywood and the TV programs are dominated by the Jews. Many Jews involve in there: Haim Shaban, Menahem Golan, Yoram Globus, Aaron Spelling, Warren Beatty, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Steven Spielberg, you name it.

Unfortunately, with the power they get, the Jews not encouraging the world into a God's way. Instead they are defying God by promoting and committing sins that forbid by God.

We all know that adultery or free-sex is a sin (just read the Bible), but the Jews media including TV's and movies are promoting the free-sex. They try to convince teenagers, if they are in Senior High-school and still virgin, they are nothing but gigs. Use condoms, they promote. Is that the act of a chosen nation? No! It's the act of a cursed nation that defy God! We also would be a sinner if we support Israel who promote the free-sex.

We all know that adultery or homosexuality and lesbianism is a sin. God destroying the Sodom and Gomorrah people, because they commit the homosexuality (just read the Bible in Genesis), but the Jews media including TV's and movies are promoting the homosexuality and lesbianism. They try to convince people that homosexuality and lesbianism is OK, and do not isolate them. The Jews even manage to do the propaganda, and they succeed. Now, we could find homosexual or lesbian couple who get marry in CHURCH! Thanks for the Jews. Is that the act of a chosen nation? No! It's the act of a cursed nation that defy God! We also would be a sinner if we support Israel who promote the homosexuality and lesbianism. We would be just like the people of Sodom and Gomorrah if we do that. If not now, we will get the punishment of God later in the day after.

The Jews in Israel also killing many children as their want with their UZIs. I believe even people with no religion, as long they still have the humanity inside, will not like what the Jews do in killing children. That is a barbaric act! . Is that the act of a chosen nation? No! It's the act of a cursed nation that defy God! We also would be a sinner if we support Israel in killing children.

Though the Jews propagandists try to convince us that Zionism is a God way, the Jews are the chosen nation, et cetera, we have to realize the true fact. The Jews are not the chosen nation. The chosen nation will not defying God by promoting things that dislike by God, such as Free-sex, Homosexuality, or killing children. In fact, the Jews are nothing but a cursed nation with their barbaric acts.

The Jews are always defying God since Moses era by worshipping a molten calf as their God. They also kill many prophet from God, such as quoted in Luke 11:49-50 "Therefore also said the wisdom of God, I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they shall slay and persecute: That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation;"

They kill Zacharias, John, and even Jesus. That is what the Jews do, and that will not make them as the chosen nation, instead the cursed nation. Their glory is only temporarily. Soon, people will see the truth, and their propagandists will not be able to fool people again.


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: GUEST,Little Jewford
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 04:24 PM

Excuse me while I go find a Christian or Muslim baby to kill. I need its blood to make my Yom Kippur matzoh.


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: GUEST,Screw This
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 04:33 PM

If I were Max, and I saw threads like this, and had any doubt as to whether it continued to be worth my time, trouble and expense to keep this forum up and running, this thread would definitely (a) convince me that GUESTS should have read-only access and (b) let someone else have the expenses and headaches in continuing to host an un-moderated forum.

Let this one die kids.


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: marty D
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 05:41 PM

Well look what the 'net' hauled in. Our very own bad spelling incoherent racist. Looks like a very recognizable style to me. A bit of archive checking should confirm it. I know that some think this kind of stuff should just be ignored, but I think sometimes you have to shine the light brightly for them to see how alone they are.

marty


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: DougR
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 06:49 PM

What a bunch of horse shit.

DougR


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: toadfrog
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 06:54 PM

I don't know whether it's horse shit, but please

DON'T FEED THE #!@%+? TROLL


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 07:49 PM

Notwithstanding the outrage over the second guest's essay, I can't help but notice that there are none of you willing to stand up on behalf of Jewish Zionism.

The delegates at the UN Conference are well aware of the fact that, except for the Jewish lobby, Israel, the American government and the big American media, they represent the mass of world opinion.


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: kendall
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 08:03 PM

"There is nothing as scary as ignorance in action." Goethe


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: Sorcha
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 08:25 PM

Is anybody interested in a Briard puppy? (big, hairy French sheepdogs). My friend has 2 for sale to the right homes.

I also have a loverly (spayed) female cat that needs a real home. Kind of a Holstein-looking cat. She needs a barn full of mousies.

2 different people have driven their vehicles into 2 different (empty because of irrigation) lake beds today. Bubba is making LOTS of money pulling them out. One was a US Gov't hummvee.........heee heee heee. Other was a 2001 Nissan 2 wheel drive pick up, stuck up to the frame.

I have a wonderful recipe for eggplant appetizer chips, anybody want it?


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: Peg
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 08:29 PM

I went to the Galway Bay Oyster Festival today. While the three day musical line-up was great (including Paddy Keenan, Sharon Shannon, Ashley MacIsaac, Cherish the Ladies, etc.), their main headline band was the Prodigals. I thought they sucked; rowdy pub band imitating what the Pogues did with more edge and talent over a decade ago; can't figure out why they are so popular...


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: Justa Picker
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 08:52 PM

So how much of a difference between a rosewood and a maple bridge plate in terms of overall tone?

Should I do bar fretting at a strict right angle to the fingerboard, or is a bit of an angle acceptable?

Did Darco strings sound better before the CF Martin Company acquired Darco?

Do strings stay in tune any better with Waverly's or, with Martin's equivalent "butterbean" tuners?

Imagine if the atmosphere reflected the green end of the spectrum instead of the blue one. Would they have to find a replacement term for the greenhouse effect?

Oh and while I think of it, I ate my first veggie burger today. Felt kind of guilty about it, so I followed that with a regular meat burger, that way the meat burger would have something to eat on the way down.


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: RangerSteve
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 09:16 PM

Sorcha - Yeah, I'll try the eggplant recipe. Did you know that two-thirds of the world's eggplant is grown in New Jersey? Really. I read fact in a few different places, but I've never actually seen an eggplant farm here. Can anyone from NJ tell me where I can find one?


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: DougR
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 09:20 PM

Sorcha, the dogs and the cats sound fine, but I have decided not to take on any more pets. Too much responsibility. I love 'em though.

I wouldn't mind receiving the recipe either!

DougR


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 09:40 PM

That thread on Tom Paxton's Saturday Night. Is that the Tom Waits tune Michael Smith sang? Are they all the same guy? Waiddaminnit.... *G* is that another folkie name change dealie?

Nom de folke?

~S~


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: Sorcha
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 09:49 PM

JP, I sure don't know the answer to any of your questions, but I am sure someone does. Do you know of Rick Fielding? Gittar man, fer shur. He probly knows.

If the atmosphere reflected the red, we could all live on Darkover............


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 09:57 PM

Of course I know the answers Sorcha M'dear...but I can't seem to find this silly thread....now where did I put it?

Little Ricky


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 10:06 PM

READ ANY FUNNY THREADS LATELY?

~S~


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: Don Firth
Date: 03 Sep 01 - 10:42 PM

Funniest damned thing . . . evil sounds like it's something really huge and powerful and frightening. But when you finally trap it and shine a light on it, it's nothing but a mangy, runty little rat cowering in the corner, trembling and rolling its beady eyes in fear.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: kendall
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 09:26 AM

Isn't it awful what they did to Marie Antoinette?


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: SINSULL
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 02:06 PM

Yes, Kendall including accusing her of saying "Let them eat cake." Never happened.


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: Arnie
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 02:12 PM

Has anyone actually been on Ilkla moor b'aht 'at? What would be the consquences??


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: GUEST,Sol Rosenberg
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 02:18 PM

I think that we should hear this person out. For example, all three Stooges were Jewish. I would really like to hear this guys perspective on how they fit into the vast Jew/zionist conspiracy.


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 02:31 PM

Two GUESTs or one? Who gives a shit. A genuine anti-semite or someone "cunningly" trying to brand people who criticise things Israel does as anti-semites? A very nasty bit of work anyway.

In case people missed it - the Hunger Site is back on.


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 02:53 PM

Anyone seen the movie "Rat Race"? I don't exactly know why but this thread brings it to mind. It was kind of tasteless, hinted at racism, but essentially, was harmless and funny.

Rowan Atkinson is very funny in it.


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: kendall
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 03:58 PM

Arnie, you would catch cold and die.


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: Wesley S
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 04:14 PM

Did anyone see Ralph Stanley on David Letterman last night ?? Was that a toupee or did some animal die on top of his head??


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: SeanM
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 05:01 PM

Didn't catch Stanley last night... but has anyone else picked up the "Down from the Mountain" soundtrack? Good schtuff going on it. I think I'm partial to Gillian Welch and David Rawlings doing "I want to sing that Rock 'n' Roll". Not particularly into the Fairfield Four version of "Po' Lazarus", but then again... it's not the field recording.

M


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: Art Thieme
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 06:08 PM

CRUMB-TOPPED ZUCCHINI

1 or 2 pounds of zucchini

2/3 cup of butter

1 teaspoon salt

1 cup sour cream

2 teaspoons sugar

1 and 1/3 bread crumbs

Slice the zucchini and place in an oblong pan. Melt half the butter and pour it over the zucchini. Cover and bake for 30 minutes. Combine salt, sour cream and sugar and spread over the top of the zucchini. Melt remaining butter and combine with the bread crumbs. Sprinkle over the zucchini and place in the oven uncovered for 10 minutes or until brown.(Bake at 350 degrees.)

Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: Art Thieme
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 06:10 PM

That ought to read 1 1/3 CUPS of bread crumbs !

Art


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: GUEST,Pete M at work
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 06:44 PM

OK so posting a series of unconnected items is an excellent way of pointing up the faults in the thread originator's hysterical rant, but isn't the fact that the UN conference on racism has been exploited in different ways, by vested interests on both sides of the Palestine / Israel conflict worthy of more considered debate?

To me the whole issue once again demonstrates peoples inherrent hypocrisy. Racism is something that other lesser mortals / states demonstrate, but not us. Until the whole of mankind starts basing its actions on ethical criteria, racism will always be with us. The best we can hope for is a little more honesty in admitting it.

A very sorrowful Pete M


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: PeteBoom
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 06:54 PM

Art - thanks for correcting the recipe - I was wondering how you get 1/3 of a crumb....

Pete


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: wysiwyg
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 06:59 PM

PeteM, sure, but not with the kind of start this had.

Summer Squash Thai Style

Slice lengthwisde, sprinkle with oil and five spice. Broil till you HAVE to eat it.

~S~


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: kendall
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 07:36 PM

You can always tell when a man has no friends..how?

You see him BUYING zucchini.


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 07:47 PM

What do you put in/on your rice pudding? (I like jam & chocolate chips)


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: Sorcha
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 07:53 PM

Truly a sad thing, Kendall. Rice pudding is DISGUSTING!!


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: wysiwyg
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 07:56 PM

Oh Kendall, how true! LOL!

~From Zucchiniland


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: AliUK
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 08:01 PM

John is that strawberry or rasberry jam? I always put either damson or blackcurret. The Damson because it has big chewwy bits and the blackcurrent for the fun of getting the seeds out from between my teeth. I have a wicked recipe for a cocktail if anyone's interested.


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 08:13 PM

Strawberry (Robertsons NOT Hartleys)


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: Celtic Soul
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 08:28 PM

"Guest" posted: "Notwithstanding the outrage over the second guest's essay, I can't help but notice that there are none of you willing to stand up on behalf of Jewish Zionism.

The delegates at the UN Conference are well aware of the fact that, except for the Jewish lobby, Israel, the American government and the big American media, they represent the mass of world opinion".

Okeedoke, I'll bite.

Considering that there are countries like the Sudan (who are enslaving and slaughtering innocents for the crime of being Christian) who are now a part of the UN sanctioned "Commission on Human Rights", and the US (the country that founded the commission, and which has one of the best human rights records in existance) has been ousted from said commission, I think that what the UN stands for is not necessarily something I really *want* to be affiliated with in any regards. I mean *really*. There is a thriving slave trade in the Sudan, and *this* country has the audacity to shake a finger at Israel or the US?

The Israelis have to their credit a history of taking in *non* jews/Israelis (such as several thousand Viet Namese refugees) for the sole reason that they *were* refugees. There are no religious or racial connections between the Viet Namese and the Israelis, so why are these supposed "racists" helping them? The Israelis have also stood up in defense of any poor treatment that *any* non-muslim receives at the hands of some muslim countries (not merely other Israelis). The Israelis have also been very instrumental in defending black Jews and Christians in parts of Africa who are suffering persecution.

Let's also take into consideration that *WOMEN* are not treated like chattel in Israel, as they are in much of the Muslim world.

Thanks, but I am happy my country does not side with butchers, misogynists, and hypocrits.


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: AliUK
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 08:31 PM

actually in a related ( sort of) vein, is it true they've taken the golliwog from the labels of Robertson's jars?


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: Tedham Porterhouse
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 08:38 PM

Celtic Soul,

Thank you for your post. I, for one, am deeply saddened that a United Nations Conference on Racism has been hijacked by some of the worst hate-mongers in the world.

This thread began with a couple of hateful examples of anti-Semitism that are mild compared with sone of the garbage coming out of Durban. I understand that some of you have wanted to neutralize the anti-Semitism by trivializing the thread, however, this subject is anything but trivial.

Speaking as someone who marched with Dr. King in 1963, and listened to his "dream," I am very depressed by this conference and disappointed at the Mudcat response to it.


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: Lepus Rex
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 08:41 PM

*snort*


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: GUEST,Curious
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 09:15 PM

If I were Max, and I saw threads like this, and had any doubt as to whether it continued to be worth my time, trouble and expense to keep this forum up and running, this thread would definitely (a) convince me that GUESTS should have read-only access and (b) let someone else have the expenses and headaches in continuing to host an un-moderated forum.

--GUEST,Screw This

Did you have anyone in particular in mind, GUEST, Screw This?

Is that what all of the insanity that's been going on in the Mudcat the last several months has been all about? Is someone, or a group of someones, trying to coerce Max into handing over control of the Mudcat to someone else? Maybe someone or group of someones who have some kind of agenda perhaps?


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 09:20 PM

Hating our neighbours because they are different from us is racism, wherever it happens, and it happens everywhere.

The first thing we have to do is to concentrate on identifying the faults in our own countries and cultures, and do what we can to get rid of them.

Picking out ways in which we maybe aren't as bad as some other people doesn't really help in that process.


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 09:35 PM

Rice pudding only LOOKS like maggots. Actually, it's quite tasty.


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: GUEST,Marie
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 09:42 PM

I don't want to seem anti-Jewish, anti-Semitic, anti-Israeli, etc., I have Jewish friends that I get along very well with. But it seems to me that the Jews, as a religion, or as a people, have put themselves above the rest of us since Biblical Days. They call themselves God's 'chosen people', implying that they are better than the rest of us.

Perhaps they've been the object of so much hatred throughout history because of that superior attitude. Given that the Jews have held the Palestinian people back since 194? explains the attitude that most people have toward them.


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: Art Thieme
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 11:47 PM

So---Tedham, what do you really think about the Folk Alliance ?


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Subject: RE: UN Conference on Racism
From: Tedham Porterhouse
Date: 05 Sep 01 - 12:15 AM

Art,

When I look at the names of the Folk Alliance Lifetime Achievement honorees, people like Paul Robeson, Woody Guthrie, Bernice Johnson Reagon, Pete Seeger, Utah Phillips and Leadbelly, I have a hard time imagining any of them crossing an NAACP picket line into an Adams Mark Hotel for a folk music business conference.

If the Folk Alliance goes ahead with the conference while the NAACP boycott is still in effect, I think it'll be the end of the Folk Alliance. I know that I won't be alone in ending my association with it.


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