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For all the Ancients

Gareth 28 Aug 01 - 07:47 PM
Kim C 28 Aug 01 - 07:38 PM
GUEST,anne_pearson@lineone.net 28 Aug 01 - 07:36 PM
RangerSteve 28 Aug 01 - 07:15 PM
ard mhacha 28 Aug 01 - 05:50 AM
Sourdough 28 Aug 01 - 12:32 AM
Amergin 28 Aug 01 - 12:09 AM
GUEST 28 Aug 01 - 12:08 AM
CarolC 28 Aug 01 - 12:06 AM
Amergin 28 Aug 01 - 12:01 AM
iamjohnne 27 Aug 01 - 11:47 PM
Amos 27 Aug 01 - 03:44 PM
Dicho (Frank Staplin) 27 Aug 01 - 03:40 PM
GUEST,PeteBoom (at work) 27 Aug 01 - 02:21 PM
ard mhacha 27 Aug 01 - 01:49 PM
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Subject: RE: For all the Ancients
From: Gareth
Date: 28 Aug 01 - 07:47 PM

Now a session in basic economics.

Its called the Mars Bar index (US of A Hershey Bar)

Consider how long it took you to earn the price of a Mars Bar in say 1950 ( Yes I know sweet rationing was still in force in the UK)- Then translate the cost of a Pint of beer ( or whatever) into the equivalent in Mars Bars. Then compare it with any subsequent date. That gives you the equivalent relative cost as related to earnings.

What frightens me is that when I first started work in 1970 my employers Sedgwick Collins & Co ( Now Marsh Mac Uk) were one of the first Lloyds Brokers to Use a Computer. It was housed in a sepperate building and had a Working Memory of 16K repeat 16K

Th first home computer I bought was an Amstrad 464 with the bolt on disk drive, memory 32K and it fitted on to a desk. Using MS/DOS. (Its up there in the loft)

My present Number Cruncher is a COMPAQ Pressario - 4 Gigga Disc, upgreded to 96Mb Mem - and this is now obselecent. At two years Old !!

I am forced to consider upgrading same just to run some of the Software I need for my political activities. Ie min of 128Mb Ram and a 20 gigga Disc, cost say 500 mars bars, and I earn roughly 20 mars bars an hour.

Frightening isn't it ??

Catters - just remember when those middle class twits say how difficult it is to get good servants these days - It poeple like us that would have been the servants.

Gareth


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Subject: RE: For all the Ancients
From: Kim C
Date: 28 Aug 01 - 07:38 PM

I was born before MTV and e-mail...


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Subject: RE: For all the Ancients
From: GUEST,anne_pearson@lineone.net
Date: 28 Aug 01 - 07:36 PM

I was taught use a sliderule at school, and I use a mechanical do dah for addition and subtraction where you slide a stilus along slots - I can use an abacus too. It is so reasuring that they don't require batteries and so will never fade out on me.

when I was very young - about five years old - I used to go out with my father to houses where he drilled a hole in the side of the TV so they could get the second TV channel - the one with adverts, not BBC - by turning a switch on the little box he wired up through the hole.

Anne


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Subject: RE: For all the Ancients
From: RangerSteve
Date: 28 Aug 01 - 07:15 PM

AM radio. No FM. Tubes in the radio and TV that had to be replaced regularly. Vertical and horizontal knobs on the TV. (in the introduction to "The Outer Limits" there's a line about controlling the vertical and horizontal - I wonder how many people these days know what that means). A few years back I saw an old espisode of "Alfred Hitchcock Presents" where the story hinged on someones phone being on a party line. How many people remember them? (no, not one of those 1-900 HOT BABES things).

No remote controls. You actually had to get up and walk across the room to change channels, volume, and all the various things that could go wrong with a TV.


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Subject: RE: For all the Ancients
From: ard mhacha
Date: 28 Aug 01 - 05:50 AM

Poor oul Yanks, Crumpet, in pure Limey, "I `ad a luvely bitta Crumpet last night, she was a go`er" Getting there. Slan Ard Mhacha.


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Subject: RE: For all the Ancients
From: Sourdough
Date: 28 Aug 01 - 12:32 AM

No, a strumpet is somethng played in a marching band.

Sourdough


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Subject: RE: For all the Ancients
From: Amergin
Date: 28 Aug 01 - 12:09 AM

no i think that is strumpet....


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Subject: RE: For all the Ancients
From: GUEST
Date: 28 Aug 01 - 12:08 AM

I heard it was a floozy in a sailor's tavern.


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Subject: RE: For all the Ancients
From: CarolC
Date: 28 Aug 01 - 12:06 AM

What does 'crumpet' mean these days, other than something you have for tea?


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Subject: RE: For all the Ancients
From: Amergin
Date: 28 Aug 01 - 12:01 AM

I thought this was going to be a thread dedicated to Spaw and Katdarling....


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Subject: RE: For all the Ancients
From: iamjohnne
Date: 27 Aug 01 - 11:47 PM

Well, I dont remember mixing the margarine, but I do remember having to walk down the path to the "little house" when I would visit my grandmother in North Carolina. It was a two seater. Somehow, I never was able to use it when in tandem with someone else.

Johnne "goin where the weather suits my clothes"


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Subject: RE: For all the Ancients
From: Amos
Date: 27 Aug 01 - 03:44 PM

I don't predate the war but one of my earliest memories is playing catch with my brother with a plastic envelope full of whitish lard-like substance and a dollop of orangey food-dye -- you had to squeeze it up a lot to distribute the coloring in it so it would take on a butter-like color, which was what this product -- newly named "margarine" was supposed to replace.

Can't say I cared for it, but the mixing process was a heap of fun.

A


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Subject: RE: For all the Ancients
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 27 Aug 01 - 03:40 PM

When a keyboard was something on an accordion. I wasn't allowed to take typing in school because I was in the academic program. Now keyboards have survived and I still don't know how to use one.


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Subject: Lyr Add: SILLY SLANG SONG (Eric Bogle)
From: GUEST,PeteBoom (at work)
Date: 27 Aug 01 - 02:21 PM

I KNEW this song was posted in DT... a great one that you may be able to appreciate, Ard Mhacha...

SILLY SLANG SONG
(Eric Bogle)

Do you remember the day when if you said that you were gay
It meant with joy, you could sing and shout?
When a fairy was enchanting and dressing up and camping
Was something you did with the Scouts?
That innocent age when an urgent case of aids
Was powdered milk we sent to the Sahara.
A fruit was something nice to eat, a poof was something for your feet
And a queen was an old tart in a tiara.

Chorus: Ah, look what we've done to the old Mother Tongue
It's a crime, the way we've misused it.
It's been totally tiswoggled, tronged and longed and gollywobbled
And we've strangled, frangled, mangled and abused it.

Ah, those halcyon times when a bong meant a chime
And a buzz was a noise insecticidal
A joint meant something between bones and getting really stoned
Only happened to bad people in the Bible.
When if you had a bad trip it meant you fell and broke your hip.
Cold turkey just meant Christmas at Aunt Dottie's.
Coke was something that you burned, smack was something that you earned
From your mumsy-wumsy when you had been naughty.

The years have gone, I'm afraid, when only eggs got laid,
And only the rhinosaurus got horny.
Only kangaroos jumped and only camels humped
Getting stuffed meant a little taxidermy.
Swnging was for trapeezes or Tarzan's chimpanzeses
Tossing off was something Scotsmen did with cabers.
Now it means something quite obscene while a heavy ugly scene
Is any movie starring Arnold Schwartzenegger. ^^^


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Subject: For all the Ancients
From: ard mhacha
Date: 27 Aug 01 - 01:49 PM

Some of you may have seen this or it may have been in the Mudcat before I arrived, anyway I think its clever. We are Suvivors. [For those born before 1940]. We were born before Television, before Penicillin, Polio shots,Frozen food,Plastic,Contact lenses,Videos,Frizbees and the Pill. We were born before Radar,Credit Cards, Split Atoms, Laser Beams, and Ball Point Pens,before Diswashers, Tumble Driers, Electric Blankets, Air Conditioners, Drip Dry Clothes, And before man walked on the Moon. We got Married first and then lived together. We thought Fast Foods were what you eat in Lent. A "Big Mac" was an oversized Raincoat and "Crumpet" we had for Tea. We exsisted before House Husbands, Computer Dating, Dual Careers, and when a "meaningful relationship" meant getting on with cousins, and when "Sheltered Accomodation" was where you waited for a Bus. We were before Day Care Centres, Group Homes and Diposables Nappies. We never heard of ,FM Radio,Tape Decks,Electric Type writers,Artifical Hearts, Word Processors, Youghort and Young Men wearing Earrings. For us "time sharing" meant togetherness, a Chip was a piece of Wood or a Fried Potato, Hardware meant Nuts and Bolts and Software wasn`t a word before 1940,"Made in Japan" meant Junk, the term "making out" was how you did in Exams,"Stud" was something that fastened a Collar to a Shirt and" going all the way" meant staying on a Double-Decker to the Bus Depot. Pizzas, McDonalds and instant Coffee were unheard off. In our day Cigarette smoking was "fashionable","Grass" was mown, "Coke" was kept in a Coalhouse, a "Joint" was a piece of Meat you had on a Sunday, and "Pot" was something you cooked in, "Rock Music" was Grannys Lullaby. "Eldarado" was an Ice-Cream, a "Gay" was the life and soul of the party and nothing more, while "Aids" just meant beauty treatment or help for someone in trouble. We who were born before 1940, must be a hardy bunch when you think of the way in which the World has changed and the adjustments we have had to make.. ------Slan Ard Mhacha.


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