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BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!

Little Hawk 09 Aug 01 - 10:38 AM
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Subject: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 10:38 AM

Just to start this one off, I'm gonna go with Canada's very own William Shatner! He's probably not the worst, but what the heck...it's a beginning. Go to it, folks...

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 10:49 AM

Yeah, but he sure covers Dylan well.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 10:54 AM

Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

Yes! And have you heard him do the Beatles?

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 11:10 AM

Meryl Streep ,unless every character she has ever played was meant to be a Meryl Streep clone!!


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 11:10 AM

I think I have, but his Mr. Tambourine Man is beyond belief.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 11:12 AM

If he took his girdle off he could cover the Beatles Dylan and anyone else all at once!:)


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 11:16 AM

Christopher Quentin who played Brian Tilsley in Coronation Street on TV, straight out of the Danish bacon Company school of acting closely followed by the previous child actress who played Sarah Louise Tilsley on the same said programme


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Kjell
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 11:19 AM

The chap with the wellington boots in Last of the Summer Wine made me cringe. And the chap from Corrie with the irish accent - what was his name?
Kjell


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 11:20 AM

The same as my alter ego Kjell Jim McDonald played by Charles Lawton


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 11:21 AM

Sondra Locke in Bronco Billy. Never understood what Clint was doing with her.

Kim Darby in True Grit; terrible, terrible.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Justa Picker
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 11:27 AM

Keanu Reeves


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 11:30 AM

John Travolta!


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 11:30 AM

Unfair to mention soaps, most teen-oriented soaps from the UK,US & Oz seem to be cast on the basis of looks from people who have less conviction than a speak your weight machine (especially the one that told me:"One at a time, please"). Some successful film actors are dreadful on stage. Edward Fox and Deborah Kerr spring to mind. I was disappointed by both: they just walked purposely to their "spot" , stood woodenly, said their lines to the audience with no interaction with the rest of the cast.
RtS (whose only acting role at school was generally accepted to be THE worst and also totally inaudible, unlike my normal "Shut up Roger" classroom persona!)


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: KingBrilliant
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 11:33 AM

Oh no! I like most of the above. Especially Shatner - that bit where he was fighting the lizard-things with his chest all shining with sweat. What a man!

Kris


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Hollowfox
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 11:45 AM

Keir Dullea.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Grab
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 12:06 PM

I would vote Keanu Reeves and Brad Pitt. But the former did a fair job in The Gift, and the latter did well in 12 Monkeys.

No, my nominations are anyone who's appeared in MASH, A-team, Knight Rider, Baywatch, Murder she wrote, Perry Mason, Ironside, Walker Texas Ranger, and any other kiddie or daytime series I may have missed. Anyone appearing more than once is deserving of a special award for naffness.

Oh yes, any American wrestler. And the "presenters" who have to act surprised. What a farce _that_ is...

Graham.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Wesley S
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 12:11 PM

Catspaw being polite to a flamer.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: kendall
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 12:18 PM

Burt Ward (Robin) Adam West (Batman)

George Hamilton (Dracula)


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Bob P
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 12:29 PM

Worst actor, either gender, all time: Glenn Ford

Worst female actor: Joan Crawford (Kellerman's close)

Worst child actor, Johnny Crawford (Rifleman's kid - actually The rifleman himself was a contender)BR>
Both named Crawford? Something in the name?
I wonder if they were related

Runners up:
- Ralph Maccio, so obnoxious I pulled for the bullies.
- Doris Day, with her patented toothy smile & offended look - Robbie Bensen
- Sally Kellerman
- Robert Blake (in anything besides Baretta)
- Kristy McNichols
- Every cast member on Different Strokes (whajusaywillis)


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Ebbie
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 12:29 PM

Elvis Presley


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: DonMeixner
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 12:30 PM

Robert Mitchum's son (James?) in Rio Lobo and Big Jake and anything else I've seen him in.

Kathy Ireland bad actress and one irritating voice.

Don


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 12:32 PM

Thank you Wesley and I am proud to accept this honor........Any cash or statuary to go along with it?............yeah....that's what I thought.....................ah, well.........Thanks anyway!

Geez kat, how can you mention Kim Darby and not acknowledge the "performance" turned in by Glen Campbell?

My personal favorite? Anybody see James Taylor in "Two Lane Blacktop?"

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: kendall
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 12:34 PM

Ronald Reagan. Dean Martin said that Reagans movies were all rated "M" You had to be accompanied by a moron to get in.

Jerry Lewis, Pee Wee Herman.

Jayne Mansfield


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Kim C
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 12:54 PM

Oh Kendall, but I loved Batman and Robin! Smash! Bif! Pow!

Louise Lasser in Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman.

Spike Lee. He makes fair to middlin movies but his acting is the pits.

Chuck Norris.

Oliver North.

Now, turning the tables a little bit... I never cared much for Johnny Depp... but I have to admit, he's a pretty darn good actor.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Wesley S
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 01:11 PM

I saw "Two Lane Blacktop". And it was a tossup { meaning my lunch } over who was the worst actor in that one. Dennis Wilson was pretty awful too.

Also I've never liked Ron Howard as an actor but he's turned into a darn good director. That was a big suprise for me.

Spaw - The statue is in the mail.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Peg
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 01:25 PM

John Wayne. No doubt about it.

Meryl Streep? are you serious? have you seen Sophie's Choice, or The French Lieutenant's Woman, or Postcards from the Edge or Out of Africa? or The Taming of the Shrew with her and Raul Julia??? Meryl rules!!!

Robert Blake is pretty good in Lost Highway, actually...very scary.

Heather Locklear.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: M.Ted
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 01:38 PM

Yep, Peg, we saw her in all that stuff--that is why she belongs here--I would say that Glenn Close is even worse--And of course, Holly Hunter tends to be wretched--"The Piano" was particularly bad--


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Amergin
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 01:42 PM

Katdarling, I agree with you about Sondra Locke....never understood what Clint saw in her either....

I am kind of surprised no one has mentioned the unactor....Miles O'Keefe...who was so bad they only gave him a couple of lines at a time....if that many...then there is Arnold Schwarzenegger...the man can act as well as a brick wall...


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Goody2Shz
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 01:42 PM

Jim Carrey

I can't stand that guy. All he does is bafooning slapstick garbage.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 01:44 PM

Some are OK when they stick to type but are truly aweful when miscast.

John Wayne as Ghengis Khan (The Conqueror)

Kevin Costner as Robin Hood

Shaquile ONeal is pretty bad, Also Cindy Crawford.

The one I disslike the most is the little curly headed kid on the Pepsi Commercials.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: DougR
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 01:44 PM

John Agar Shirley Temple


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Kim C
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 01:52 PM

Is Heather Locklear even considered an actress? I thought she was a model...

I'll vote for the guy on my local Mattress King commercials.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 02:30 PM

Ha! Ha! Ha!

This is great.

Kendall, I particularly like your choices. Jerry Lewis was probably the single MOST OBNOXIOUS actor/personality of all time...if not the worst.

I would like to see a movie where a rejuvenated Jerry Lewis (created through digital technology) teams up with Jim Carey in a gross-out type comedy at a college sorority gathering.

Think of the possibilities....

I also agree that Elvis was a really terrible actor. The poor lad got roped into doing all those lousy movies by his insanely greedy manager. To watch 12 or so Elvis movies in a row is sort of like watching anything else really mediocre on the instant replay...only more so.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 02:34 PM

Never mind Ron Howard!

CLINT HOWARD is the absolute bottom!!!!

:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: GUEST,Mad4Mud at work
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 02:45 PM

I'd have to put Kevin Costner at the top of my list. He was okay in "Dancing With Wolves" because his monotone voice worked well with the narrative style. Unfortunately he uses that same monotone voice for every role! It took me about three movies (I hate to admit that one of them was the dreaded "Robin Hood") but I finally gave up on him. Cute to look at but sometimes you need more than that to get through a two hour movie!
My husband has an aversion to Sam Neill with his wooden demeanor. When he heard Sam did a miniseries as Merlin he nearly gave himself a hernia laughing over the whole concept.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 02:48 PM

Wesley, I am glad you mentioned Dennis Wilson....I forgot and he too deserves the "billing." Two Lane Blacktop is simply just one of the worst movies of all time.......right there with Plan Nine from Outer Space which featured an actor (Bela Lugosi) who was dead when the movie was made! The performances by Taylor and Wilson suggest that they too were perhaps dead when TLB was made. The writing was atrocious and Wilson spends most of the movie saying, "We have to re-jet the carbs." I doubt whether either of them could find the jets in a carburetor on the best day they ever had.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 02:57 PM

I have never seen Two Lane Blacktop.

Boy, am I ever feeling deprived!

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Peter T.
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 02:57 PM

I certainly would have given the worst actress statuette (!) to the woman with the angora sweater in Glen or Glenda (Help me with her name, somebody). And there were any number of contenders for worst actor -- I particularly admired Paul Simon in Annie Hall, James Taylor already mentioned, Roy Orbison, these music guys, eh? -- and it was a terrible struggle between Kevin Costner in The Postman, or Kevin Costner in Waterworld. The winner? Kevin Costner in "For Love of the Game". Unbelievable, incredible tripe, everyone in it is appalling, the script is putrid and you can set your watch by the plot twists. But Kevin is so superlatively bad you cannot take your eyes off him for a moment. Such is star power. It is the perfect game of appalling acting in our time.

yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: catspaw49
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 02:58 PM

Sorry....Dumbass Spaw forgot to closes the Bold after dead. It's the heat and thinking of James Taylor that did it. The only plus to the movie was that the royalties were donated by JT for the recently added wing on the Neil Young Center for the Terminally Screwed. All of us at the Center appreciate the gift that built the James Taylor Rehab Clinic for Catatonic Blandness.

Much appreciated.

Spaw

cleaned up the spilled litter
joeclone


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 03:05 PM

Gosh, Peter, I'm beginning to feel sorry for poor Kevin Costner...although I can see your point.

"Dances With Wolves" remains one of my favourite movies, but it just happened to suit his style, while most of the others he was in did not.

I give "The Postman" a slight, but significant edge in awfullness over "Waterworld".

Kris Kristofferson has also shown a knack for starring in some terrible blockbusters. Remember "Heaven's Gate" and "Amerika"?....so bad you had to see them to believe it. "Amerika" was like the last insane gasp of Reaganite paranoia...a right-winger's political wet dream in 4 interminable parts. At the end they all sing the "Spar-Fwangled Dingle-Dangle". Gimme a break.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 03:12 PM

Ah, how could I have forgotten Glen Campbell!? Thanks, TurnipDisciple#1!

I think Meryl is a lovely actress and I know that she comes from kind parents. My daughter use to trick or treat at their house.

Johnny Depp was brill in Benny & Joon; Don Juan DeMarco; What's Eating Gilbert Grape; and, Edward Scissorhands, IMO.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: M.Ted
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 03:12 PM

Kris and Babs deserve a special mention for "A Star is Born", almost totally un-watchable, and yet....


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Shields Folk
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 03:16 PM

"And this years oscar for the Actress With the Kindest Parents goes to...."


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: LR Mole
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 03:23 PM

Now, help me out here. Mick Jagger was awesomely vomitous in "Performance" ("Memo From Turner", in which he greased his hair back and appeared to inflate his lips even further). BUT (and here I defer to the Catters from Oz) was he as bad as that in "Ned Kelley"?
The problem with these things is that too frequently I find myself shrugging and thinking, well, that actor/actress/song, etc., wasn't THAT bad. There are elements in all these categories , though, that I've taken a completely irrational (and probably unfair) dislike to. Angelina Jolie.The whole Rolling Stones catalogue. Mahler. Derek Jacobi. Drew Barrymore. Sinead O'Connor. It could have gone another way, but it didn't.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 03:24 PM

I love Sean Connery but he's no actor, not really. Think of "The hunt for Red October", I mean a Russian sub' commander with a Scottish accent??

Jock


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: ard mhacha
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 03:24 PM

It has to be Ronald Reagan and George Bush. Slan Ard Mhacha.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: brid widder
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 03:35 PM

Ronald Reagan....a small part actor who tried to play the lead


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Devilmaster
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 03:36 PM

i like his other works, but Oliver Reed in 'Tommy'. If you've ever heard him sing..............


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Gareth
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 03:39 PM

In fairness to Kevin Costner the "Right On" Robin Hood was soooooo bad it was hilarious. The tape has an honoured plave i my video shelves, along with the collected Pink Panther and many episodes of the Simpsons.

Gareth


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: GUEST,Den
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 03:52 PM

Tom Cruise in that piece of garbage "Far and Away". I almost lost my will to live watching every Irish stereotype under the sun played out in that shitty movie. At first I thought it was the life story of the "Lucky Charms" Leprechaun (judging by Tom's attempt at an Irish accent). Den


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Wesley S
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 04:03 PM

George Bush Jr is doing a terrible job of acting like a president

{ said as he ducks and runs for cover }


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Wesley S
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 04:09 PM

NO - WAIT - Who was the guy in those god-awful "Billy Jack" movies - Tom Laughlin ??


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Kim C
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 04:27 PM

I haven't seen any of Angelina Jolie's movies, but I've said this before and I'll say it again... get a real tattoo, girlie. Even a pauper like me has prettier body art than that awful gang-looking "Billy Bob" thing on your arm.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: GUEST,Mad4Mud at work
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 04:38 PM

OMG! How could I forget "Heaven's Gate"?! Thanks, LH. So far that's the only movie I've ever walked out on. I truly didn't care if that community of ..what were they Swedes?...lived or died.
Oh yeah, speaking of not caring if they lived or died, I felt pretty much the same way about the "Lost in Space" movie. I wish they had rammed right into the Sun near the beginning of that film.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 04:40 PM

Did someone mention Derek Jacobi -the man's a genius! Trouble with those classicly trained actors is that they don't transfer well to the big screen so lovely Johnny (Gilguid) Ralphy (Richardson) Larry (Olivier) were all completely hammy on screen, but absolutely amazing on stage. The rule is broken by Judi Dench who is mesmeric anywhere. And of course Kenny (Branagh) was excellent except in Frankenstein which was crap. anyway luvvies, enough from moi -(air kisses and leaves stage left pursued by bear)


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 04:46 PM

Okay, who was putting down Arnold Schwartzenegger? An actor? Well, no, but I like it that he knows it, doesn't take himself seriously and has fun with it. Arnold playing Hamlet (imagine the voice):

"To be; or not to be."
(lights the fuse of a bomb and throws it)
"Not to be!"

I tell ya, I damn near wet myself, I was giggling so hard. Freakin' brilliant!


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 04:53 PM

I am also consumed with regret for never having seen "Dumb and Dumber" or "Invasion Earth".

But that is as nothing compared to the regret I have for having SEEN "Independence Day" and "Armageddon".

Just saw the new "Planet of the Apes" and did not like it much for various reasons...too much action and fighting for my taste. I like movies that require an attention span of more than 5 seconds now and then, but they are becoming fewer and fewer, it seems. Kristofferson got a small part in it...not much to work with, but he sported an impressive amount of hair, anyway. The apes were no doubt quite envious of this, and made sure to kill him in short order.

I actually liked Brad Pitt in "Seven Years in Tibet", and I really liked the subject matter. The general public, however, was not too impressed. Not enough action, I guess. Sigh.

And hey, don't diss Schwarzenneger! He makes Stallone look inarticulate and half-witted. :-) (Like, who doesn't?)

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Gloredhel
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 05:11 PM

William Shatner, Jerry Lewis, and Ronald Reagan, in that order. Of course, in defense of Shatner, he made a good Star Trek captain. Being a bad actor is a prerequisite for that role, which is why Patrick Stewart made such an awful captain--he's too convincing. Can't wait to see who they dig up for the new Star Trek this fall. And MASH was a really good show!


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: GUEST,Mad4Mud at work
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 05:35 PM

Charleton Heston has got to be on this list. I still remember his final scene in "Planet of the Apes" when he drops to his knees on the beach and beats the sand with his fist. "Damn them! Damn them all!" Incredibly bad.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Walking Eagle
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 05:43 PM

Worst actor, Peter Lawford and the rest of the rat pack except Frank Sinatra and Sammy Davis.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Tweedie
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 05:54 PM

Kevin Costner has 7 mentions so far which is only right and proper. Let's make it 10 kevin costner, kevin costner, kevin costner. But what I genuinely want to know is how come bad actors/actresses (Meryl Streep yes!) get repeat work ??


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 06:16 PM

I can't believe he hasn't been mentioned yet!!!!!

Steven Segal!

But Costner takes my prize for taking otherwise brilliant roles and making them blander than bread an margerine

I liked Planet of the Apes ok, but more for Tim Burton's visuals than anything else.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 06:29 PM

I have to agree with Spaw and Wesley that "Two-Lane Blacktop" is a definite candidate for the title of worst movie of all time, and that the performances of James Taylor and Dennis Wilson are the worst examples of film acting that I have ever seen. I mean, none of the other actors mentioned above were ever anyything like as dire as these two. What must Warren Oates have thought?

The strange thing is that for me, a bad film can be horribly compulsive, and if "TLB" were to air tonight on TV, I would watch it again, all the way through.

Murray


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: jaze
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 07:31 PM

But I loved Lousie Lasser in MH MH--she always made me feel stoned even if I wasn't!


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: RWilhelm
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 07:39 PM

This is kind of fun. Meryl Streep, yes, because everytime you see her on screen you say "look how she's acting." But the grand prize goes to pretty boy Tom Cruise who was never in a movie he didn't stink up.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 07:44 PM

Oh please, Tom Cruise isn't a bad actor. And he did come out with my favosite movie line of all time in Cocktail.
Girl: "Hey, do I have "FUCK ME" tattoed on my forehead ?"
Tom Cruise (leaning closer)" I don't know, I can't see a damn thing without my contacts"

Murray


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: RangerSteve
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 08:05 PM

I could argue with a lot of the above all night, but I'm tired from a miserable day of working in 100 degree weather and I just don't have the strength. Anyway: Harrison Ford. Someone should tell him that it's okay to smile, frown, raise your voice, SHOW SOME EMOTION, DAMN IT!!

Katlaughing - I'm glad you caught your omission. I was wondering how you could have seen True Grit and missed Glen Campbell. Now, there's a man who can't do anything right.

Little Hawk - As for Seven Yrs. in Tibet, read the book. Then you'll understand why no one liked the movie. (the book was great).

I liked KC's Robin Hood. There, I've said it, and I don't care who knows.

Whoever that woman was who narrated "Billy Jack". I believe she was actually dead at the time. She made Tom Laughlin look like Olivier.

I also understand that Mae West was playing a character in all her movies, but I never did understand her appeal.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: DougR
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 08:13 PM

I'd certainly go along with Kevin Costner as ONE of the worst. There are so many. Stewart Grainger from the old days, John Wayne in almost everything except: Rio Bravo, The Shootist, She Wore A Yellow Ribbon, The Quiet Man, Ft. Apache, Red River and Rio Grande. He made lots of 'em.

John Agar and Shirley Temple in Ft. Apache were pretty bad though.

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Shields Folk
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 08:41 PM

Walking Eagle, did Peter Lawford play Lord Lovat in The Longest Day. If he did he wasn't the worst in that pile of shite. Sean Connery was the worst bar that bloke who was asking Richard Burton "Where Johnny was with his boots". All in all some classic over acting and serious under performing.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: kendall
Date: 09 Aug 01 - 09:03 PM

Treet Williams in Lost World, or anything he appears in. He has one expression, NUMB.

Holly Hunter didn't have to act with an ass like that!


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 12:07 AM

I haven't seen more than half a dozen films in the last thirty years, so I'm surprised only by the omission of Randolph Scott, Victor Mature (was that really the name?), and Vincent Price. Does that take you back, Kendall?

Sandy


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: DougR
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 12:11 AM

RANDOLPH SCOTT! Sandy, you must not have seen him and Joel McCray in "Ride the High Country!" Or perhaps you did!

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 12:26 AM

Don't remember that one, DougR. But what was the name of the handsome non-actor who played Cochise in that Jimmy Stewart epic? Add him to my list, along with Charlton Heston (who really ought to head the list!). World's worst!

Sandy


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: GUEST,Geordie
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 12:29 AM

Whoopie Goldberg and Haley Mills


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Amergin
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 12:31 AM

Bo Derek, Christopher Lambert


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 12:32 AM

Jeff Chandler, Sandy ?

Murray


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: DonMeixner
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 12:32 AM

Well, many of the people we have considered as bad actors, I consider actor to be genderless, are good actors who have had some bad roles.

Kevin Costner was good in Silverado,Tin Cup and The Untouchables. Other stuff, not so hot. He didn't ruin Waterworld all by himself, he had Dennis Hopper there to help him.

Chuck Heston was never all that hot to me but Will Penny was a great movie, the rest were not so great, even The Ten Suggestions were a little stiff and over acted.

Meryl Streep has never been a favorite of mine but she was perfect in Hollocaust and Sophie's Choice.

Marilyn Monroe was funny. Even when she wasn't spose to be.

Luckily for us for every 10 Chuck Hestons there is at least one Paul Muni. For every 10 Kevin Costner there is one Ed White. For all those Meryls and Marilyns there is at least one Jessica Lange and Judy Holliday.

I think John Wayne was a good actor, I think Ward Bond was much better. And Ben Johnson was the best of the three.

Of course thats my opinion and thats why we have horse races.

Don


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Chanteyranger
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 12:50 AM

PIA ZADORA! She's got to be the poster girl for bad acting. As for the poster boy....there was some guy named Richard Carlson who popped up in many a 50's "B" science fiction movie. As wooden an actor as they come, but the attractive and resistant woman scientist always fell for him by the end of the movie.

-chanteyranger


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Chanteyranger
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 01:02 AM

I just have to mention my disagreement (as well as Peg's) over having Meryl Streep in this list. She's an actor's actor - one of the greats in my book.

-chanteyranger


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: GUEST,MC Fat
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 04:26 AM

Michael Caine in 'Kidnapped' with the cringe making Scottish accent. He was pretty terrible in Zulu as well but at least his first line was a a cracker ' Don't point that bloody Assagi at me !'


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: ard mhacha
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 07:15 AM

Did anyone forget to mention the No1, known in our wee town in Ireland as Victor Manure, yes the hammiest plank of all time "Gee Mum you`re the best cook in Gaza" famous words spoken by Victor in, Samson and Delilah. Slan Ard Mhacha.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: kendall
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 08:24 AM

Victor Mature wanted to join some posh club, and, when he was told that they didn't accept actors, he said "I'm not an actor, and, I have 50 movies to prove it."

How about Robert Newton? terrible actor, but, he IS Long John Silver!

Wayne Morris? Chester Morris? (Boston Blackie)
Morris Ankrum? Whit Bissel? Michael Rennie? The bad ones outnumber the good.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: guinnesschik
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 08:49 AM

Branagh may have been awful in Frakenstein, but so was DeNiro. The Creature with a New York accent? I love DeNiro, but man...I just couldn't get past that.

Quentin Tarantino....Val Kilmer.....

Does anyone remember Tony Curtis in (I think) The Black Shield Of Falmoth (sp?)? "Yondah lies da castle of my faddah."

Richard Gere as Lancelot. Horrid.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: catspaw49
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 09:14 AM

Speaking of Victor Mature, Groucho once remarked about "Samson and Delilah" that it was the only movie where the leading man had bigger breasts than the leading lady.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Hollowfox
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 10:20 AM

Awww, Sandy, for an art thief, Vincent Price was an excellent actor.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 11:48 AM

Ah! I did not read the book "Seven Years in Tibet". Now I understand....

The book usually leaves the movie in the dust.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: GUEST,Nick
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 12:55 PM

Ernest Borgnine, there now it has been said.

I loved how bad he was in my favorite of favorite bad movies "Escape from New York"

"You want to see the Duke, Nobody sees the Duke!"

Arnold Shwartzenager as Conan the Barbarian, a movie that has one of my favorite stupid lines, "Two or three years ago they were just another snake cult, now their temples are everywhere!"

And the delightfull closing scene where after having killed all those who opposed him Conan sits and the marble stairs and assumes the "Thinker" pose.


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Subject: We should call this "The Costner Award"
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 01:15 PM

Mike Myers!

With the exception of Shrek, (which I'd recast with Craig Ferguson from Saving Grace) nothing he's ever done has ever struck me as even remotely funny...

And lay off Angelina Jolie... her and Billy Bob'd kick yer collective asses!!

LOL!!


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: catspaw49
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 01:17 PM

Hey Murray......I too have that same problem with really lousy movies!!!! Something about them just draws me in........Really pathetic isn't it?

And worse.........Steven Segal......Completely without talent and a spectrum of emotion running from A to .........well, A-.......I don't think he has the range to make B. HOWEVER.........I can't resist the occasional Segal movie, for the 20th time. They're completely awful.....really hideous things. Didja' ever notice that with only the exception in one movie, he always manages to kick the shit out of 17 guys at a time, 49 times per movie and emerges with hardly a scratch? Wow......Whatta' guy!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Amergin
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 01:40 PM

Jean Claude Van Damme is also hardly deserving of the title "actor".....


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Justa Picker
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 01:45 PM

...Chuck Norris for that matter.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: DougR
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 02:48 PM

Yep, Murray, I think Sandy is thinking about Jeff Chandler, a truly wooden actor. I never could understand why Hollywood didn't use Indians to play Indians. John Ford used real Indians in his movies, of course but only as extras. "Scar" in one of his best movies (The Searchers) was certainly no Native American.

I agree with chantyranger and Peg, I think you folks are going a bit hard on Meryl Streep.

Kendall, you sure named a couple or three. How about Sonny Tufts?

DougR


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Shields Folk
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 02:55 PM

It's just a gut feeling but Meryl Streep never seems to play anybody but Meryl Streep. All of these dissenting voices surely can't be wrong, mind she does 'comes from kind parents'.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 03:11 PM

"comes from kind parents"???

I don't get it...

?


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: catspaw49
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 03:45 PM

See what happens when you don't read the whole thread CH? Here's a hint----Check kat's posts.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Shields Folk
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 03:46 PM

See kat's post earlier.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: kendall
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 03:53 PM

Ah, yes, Doug, and, Buster Crabbe? Johnnie Wiesmuller? Broderick Crawford?

I like Steven Sagal and Clint Eastwood, but, not for their acting!


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Shields Folk
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 03:56 PM

Dare I ask?


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Hollowfox
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 04:22 PM

I think some of the names on our list are there because the movie industry didn't want a separate list of employees labeled "eye candy" in the credits.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 05:47 PM

Ranger Steve, you win MY oscar for mentioning Delores Taylor. (Tom Laughlin's wife) Almost everyone named here seems to just be irritating to SOME in SOME roles, but Delores Taylor gave the truly worst performance I have ever seen. It was so embarrassing I have to believe that Laughlin needed her money or something to finance Billy Jack.

I have to admit though that I loved it when Billy Jack used his "pacifist boots and karate chops" to dismember the bad guy who was hassling the native kids! The Movie was awful, the theme song nauseating, but DELORES will live forever.

Rick


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 06:14 PM

I'd have to agree with that, Rick. Billy Jack was terrible. The Trial of Billy Jack was even worse.

I have sat in the Billy Jack truck, donated by Tom Laughlin to Rolling Thunder's camp in Nevada.

I know you must be green with envy to hear that. I have not met Delores Taylor nor Tom Laughlin face to face, however.

Or Winona Ryder either for that matter...

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: DougR
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 06:23 PM

Hmmm. Somehow I let the Billy Jack movies excape me. Never saw even one of 'em. Appears I missed nothing.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 06:33 PM

What you have missed, Doug, is some of the counterculture's most embarrassing moments ever, plus some really seriously bad acting, plus a theme song that deserves -3 on a scale of 1 to 10.

Only rent these movies if you are prepared for the very worst.

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 06:46 PM

Milton Berle. Ugh!


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 06:52 PM

everyone in the history of the world ever

that about covers it

the end


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: RangerSteve
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 07:15 PM

RickF - Delores and Tom were married at the time. Just in case you care, Tom was last seen running for President of the US. Someone told me he's not playing with a full deck anymore.

Little Hawk - if you read Seven Yrs. in Tibet, I'll listen to Stuck Inside of Mobile etc. again.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Celtic Soul
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 08:08 PM

I have the same 6 words I used in another thread; Tori Spelling Tori Spelling Tori Spelling.

And I think that Julia Roberts brother, Erik would be my vote for worst actor.

At least Shatner is amusing to watch!

:D


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 09:25 PM

Shatner is damned amusing! You should have seen him doing Loblaws commercials in Canada back in the 70's ("But, by gosh, the price is right!").

I think he earned himself a worthy place in entertainment history as Captain Kirk, as much because of his overdone acting as for any other reason. To give Bill credit, I've seen him make fun of himself for bad acting.

RangerSteve - I am entirely willing to read "Seven Years in Tibet", but I can't promise when I'll get around to it.

I want to thank everyone for their enthusiastic participation in this most auspicious thread! Much obliged.

I also agree that Charlton Heston has done some really notably bad acting.

Carry on acting...

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 11 Aug 01 - 12:24 AM

Ms. Streep can't be all bad. She lives in the town just north or ours, shops at the local grocery store where we shop, and sends her kids to the public school just like ordinary folks (clearly a matter of choice, as we are surrounded by expensive private schools up here in northwest Connecticut). I like that, being a confirmed egalitarian.

Sandy


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: GUEST,Pelrad
Date: 11 Aug 01 - 12:54 AM

Jeff Goldblum. Deliberate stuttering is not an acceptable acting style.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 11 Aug 01 - 02:40 AM

Jeff Goldblum has one of the single most unique and genuine delivery's of any actor today...

He's great!


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: ard mhacha
Date: 11 Aug 01 - 12:25 PM

One more not mentioned Vera Ralston, the wife of Herbert J Yates, she took part in almost all of Herberts movies, wooden wasn`t the word, she would have made a great partner for Pinocchio. Slan Ard Mhacha.


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Aug 01 - 09:49 PM

Please name some Herbert J Yates movies, would you?

- LH


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: DonMeixner
Date: 11 Aug 01 - 10:05 PM

Vera Hruba Ralston films

Jubilee Trail

The Fighting Kentuckian

Hoodlum Empire

Dakota


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Subject: RE: BS: WORST actor or actress ever!!!
From: AliUK
Date: 11 Aug 01 - 11:12 PM

Kim Darby was absolutely fabulous in True Grit, and even better in Dont be Afraid of the Dark . and Bill Owen was the soul of Last of the Summer Wine. My al time worst actor ever is David Bowie, especially in that abortion The Man who Fell To Earth.


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