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Ashley MacIsaac to 10 year olds: Smoke Pot

GUEST,The Mole Catcher's unplugged Apprentice 26 Feb 08 - 11:58 AM
irishenglish 26 Feb 08 - 12:03 PM
Snuffy 26 Feb 08 - 12:54 PM
GUEST,meself 26 Feb 08 - 02:06 PM
GUEST,The Mole Catcher's unplugged Apprentice 26 Feb 08 - 02:06 PM
M.Ted 27 Feb 08 - 06:49 PM
Betsy 27 Feb 08 - 06:55 PM
GUEST,meself 27 Feb 08 - 07:21 PM
Bobert 27 Feb 08 - 07:34 PM
Jack Campin 27 Feb 08 - 07:56 PM
Sandy Mc Lean 27 Feb 08 - 09:22 PM
Jack Campin 28 Feb 08 - 08:23 PM
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Subject: RE: Ashley to 10 year olds: Smoke Pot
From: GUEST,The Mole Catcher's unplugged Apprentice
Date: 26 Feb 08 - 11:58 AM

I must admit to not being a particular fan of Ashley McIsaac, but I'm aware he does have a fan base, and kat, I agre, re-opening an old thread just for the sake of it seems a bit of a waste of time. I've found with alot of Wikipedia entries, you have to take them with a grain of salt..accuracy is not high on their list of things to do, though they are getting better.

speaking of Buddy (if you mean McMaster) his niece Natalie was recently in town performing with out local symphony orchestra...an truly magical evening.

Charlotte (the view from Ma and Pa's piano stool)


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Subject: RE: Ashley to 10 year olds: Smoke Pot
From: irishenglish
Date: 26 Feb 08 - 12:03 PM

True, wiki isn't always accurate, but the salient facts usually give you a base for investigating further. That's one of the things I do like about it, you can also cross reference things easily. Natalie MacMaster is awesome, btw!


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Subject: RE: Ashley to 10 year olds: Smoke Pot
From: Snuffy
Date: 26 Feb 08 - 12:54 PM

Yeah, don't believe Wikipedia. Get your facts from Mudcat instead - it's all true, I tell ya.

(smoke, pot, without, black, calling, fire, kettle, no)


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Subject: RE: Ashley to 10 year olds: Smoke Pot
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 26 Feb 08 - 02:06 PM

Before this thread hits bottom and, we hope, disappears: Ashley is a phenomenal Cape Breton fiddler, and can stand shoulder-to-shoulder with the universally recognized greats: Winston Fitzgerald, Angus Chisholm, Buddy MacMaster ... at that level of ability, it becomes a subjective matter of personal preference for certain stylistic approaches and habits as to which musician is superior to another. Btw, I would put Natalie MacMaster right up there as well.

Having said that, Ashley has given at least one bad performance - I saw it - and apparently has done and said some quite stupid things.

Make of it what you will. I don't think there is a neat conclusion.


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Subject: RE: Ashley to 10 year olds: Smoke Pot
From: GUEST,The Mole Catcher's unplugged Apprentice
Date: 26 Feb 08 - 02:06 PM

I actually said "I've found with alot of Wikipedia entries, you have to take them with a grain of salt"
not all, but alot..and it was in reference to the current thread and not a random pot shot at Wikipedia

Charlotte (making enquiries)


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Subject: RE: Ashley to 10 year olds: Smoke Pot
From: M.Ted
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 06:49 PM

The person who opened this thread, after seven years, or what ever, seems to have been Ashley McIsaac himself--I did add some spacing, to make it more readable--but here is the first paragraph--

hi figured after seven years had passed i could finally leave a comment on this site-

you people who seem to belevie everything you read let alone act like you know me from things siad in the media- well-you really out to get a life-

there are many comments on this site i could sue people for defamation for-as they are not based on any reality of my luife only the imagined one that you all seem to think is real-



I think that his point should be seriously considered, and his feelings, as well. I must admit that after all this time, I am not very happy about the tone of my own posts--my points had some merit, but at this late date, I am embarassed the smug and sarcastic tone, as well as by a certain inappropriate familiarity.

These threads live on, even after we've forgotten what we've written, or even that we've written it at all. And these threads are read by many people, sometimes the people who they are written about, and it is understandable that, though we may forget what we've said in them, the readers may not.


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Subject: RE: Ashley to 10 year olds: Smoke Pot
From: Betsy
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 06:55 PM

Fairly sad ,I believe Paul McCartney advised a similar thing to "Grown ups " but I certainly wouldn't infer he said it to kids.
What a twat this guy is.


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Subject: RE: Ashley to 10 year olds: Smoke Pot
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 07:21 PM

It was seven years ago - get over it.

M. Ted: good post.


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Subject: RE: Ashley to 10 year olds: Smoke Pot
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 07:34 PM

...cough...

Ahhhhh, 10 years old is too young... I didn't turn my kid on until he was pushin' 18 and only did so 'cause he asked me about it and we talked about it...

Yeah, he uses pot "recreationally"... He also goes to college, makes great grades, works part time and has his life purdy much together at 23...

Now, ya' gonna pass that joint over, 'er what???

B;~)


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Subject: RE: Ashley to 10 year olds: Smoke Pot
From: Jack Campin
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 07:56 PM

I heard him playing with a dancer in Edinburgh (an actor called "Tap Eire") about three years ago, doing a sort of knowingly self-referential Irish trad. He was excellent and I'd go to hear him again.

No idea what Ashley Hutchings does; I believe he led some over-arranged English folk-rock band in the 70s. Not a genre I care about. I presume any performer from that era will have done as many drugs as MacIsaac. It doesn't matter either way.

: Buddy MacMaster seen playing with him on YouTube is widely regarded as
: the greatest living Scottish style fiddler.

Maybe he is so regarded in Canada. There is no unique Scottish style, and there are many other players who can do the other ones better.


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Subject: RE: Ashley to 10 year olds: Smoke Pot
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 27 Feb 08 - 09:22 PM

I have often heard said that Cape Breton Island is the most westerly of the Hebrides. Two centuries ago when vast areas of Scotland's Islands and Highlands were cleared of its native Gaelic speaking populace Cape Breton became their new home. Here in relative isolation the Gaelic language, music, dance and song was preserved. Meanwhile much changed in Highland Scotland and the old dance and music style was changed.
Jack says"There is no unique Scottish style, and there are many other players who can do the other ones better." and that is no doubt true. However what I refer to as Scottish style is the music of the Gaels. Today it is called Cape Breton style but it is really the old style of Scotland that has only been preserved better here. Buddy is every bit as highly regarded in Scotland as in Canada by his peers there who have learned much of the old style from him. That is the style that Ashley plays when he is playing properly and he is very good at it.
Tha mi an dochas gu bhi ceol seo beo gu brath!
   More on Scottish styles here:
http://www.fiddlingaround.co.uk/scotland/frame%20scotland.html


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Subject: RE: Ashley to 10 year olds: Smoke Pot
From: Jack Campin
Date: 28 Feb 08 - 08:23 PM

There have always been far more Gaelic speakers in Scotland than in Cape Breton, and still are.

There are currently more of them in Glasgow than in the rest of the world put together.

Cape Breton is home to an interesting *part* of Gaelic culture with some very significant music, but it doesn't need the mythology it's acquired in certain quarters.

Is Buddy Macmaster better than Farquhar Macrae was? Silly question. Both Gaels and not much alike.


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Subject: RE: Ashley to 10 year olds: Smoke Pot
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 28 Feb 08 - 10:49 PM

Yes there are more Gaels in Scotland but there are also many more non Gaels who have changed the culture. I am not sure what you mean by mythology. Are you a Gaelic speaker Jack?


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