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Lyr Req:build my love a castle at the edge of town

ollaimh 16 Jul 01 - 12:54 AM
IanC 16 Jul 01 - 04:49 AM
IanC 16 Jul 01 - 04:53 AM
ollaimh 18 Jul 01 - 06:32 PM
ollaimh 18 Jul 01 - 06:34 PM
wysiwyg 23 Jul 01 - 10:43 AM
GUEST,BeauDangles 23 Jul 01 - 08:35 PM
Joe Offer 24 Jul 01 - 12:38 AM
John Moulden 24 Jul 01 - 07:27 AM
Malcolm Douglas 24 Jul 01 - 10:26 AM
GUEST,BeauDangles 25 Jul 01 - 01:30 PM
GUEST,BeauDangles 25 Jul 01 - 01:33 PM
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Subject: lyrics required
From: ollaimh
Date: 16 Jul 01 - 12:54 AM

I was humming a great Irish song that I can't remember the name of.

I remember several verses.

I will build my love a castle
At the edge of the town
Neither lord duke or earl
Will ever tear it down

And if ever I return again
It will be in the spring
When the lark and the linnet
And the nightingale sing

With me rantin tour a naddy fol de di do

Itís fare thee well my true love
I must go far away
For there's honor and promotion
In crossing the sea

Etc. etc.,

I once heard it recorded by John Faulkner, but that's the only recording Iíve heard. I am fond of it.

So does anyone remember the title and all the words?

HTML line breaks added. --JoeClone, 12-Mar-02.


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Subject: RE: lyrics required - build my love a castle at the edge of town
From: IanC
Date: 16 Jul 01 - 04:49 AM

Sounds like a version of the Sailor's Answer (Bristol City) here. I'll see if I can find a closer match!

Cheers!
Ian


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Subject: RE: lyrics required - build my love a castle at the edge of town
From: IanC
Date: 16 Jul 01 - 04:53 AM

Looks like the verse you chose is a bit of a floater. Here's another version of it Miner Lad.

Sorry, that's all I've found!
Ian


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Subject: RE: lyrics required - build my love a castle at the edge of town
From: ollaimh
Date: 18 Jul 01 - 06:32 PM

no other john faulkner fans out there with this great song--gee


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Subject: RE: lyrics required - build my love a castle at the edge of town
From: ollaimh
Date: 18 Jul 01 - 06:34 PM

i could use either set of lyrics given here to the tune i know--and likely will, but i'd love the john faulkner version.


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Subject: RE: lyrics required - build my love a castle at the edge of town
From: wysiwyg
Date: 23 Jul 01 - 10:43 AM

refresh


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Subject: ADD: The Ploughboy
From: GUEST,BeauDangles
Date: 23 Jul 01 - 08:35 PM

From Broken Hearted I'll Wander by John Faulkner & Dolores Keane:

THE PLOUGHBOY

I once was a ploughboy but a soldier I am now;
I courted lovely molly, a milkmaid, I vow;
I courted lovely Molly, I delight in the terms (her charms?),
For many's the long night I rolled in her arms.

with me rantin, tour a naddy fol de di do.

Now adieu, lovely Molly, I now must away;
There's great honor and promotion in crossing the sea;
And if ever I return it will be in the Spring,
when the lark and the linnet and the nightingale sing.

with me rantin, etc.

I will build me love a castle at the head of the town,
where either lord, duke or earl will e'er pull it down;
and if anybody asks you where you are from,
you can tell them you're a stranger from the County Tyrone.

with me rantin, etc.

Now you may go to all the markets, the gatherings and fairs,
you can go to church on sunday and choose your love there;
and if anybody loves you as well as I do,
I'll not try to stop your wedding love, so fair thee well, adieu.

with me rantin, etc.

She sent to me a posey of the red rose so fine;
I sent her another, it was rue mixed with tine/thyme?;
saying you can keep your red rose, and I will keep my tine,
and you can drink to your true love and I will drink to mine.

with me rantin, etc.


Followed by a lovely version of the jig Doctor O'Neils Favorite.

A truly marvelous recording. One of the gems of my collection. Every piece on it is remarkable.

BeauD


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Subject: RE: lyrics required - build my love a castle at the edge of town
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 Jul 01 - 12:38 AM

Beau,. are there any notes on this song that tell whether it's traditional? -or do they name a songwriter?
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: lyrics required - build my love a castle at the edge of town
From: John Moulden
Date: 24 Jul 01 - 07:27 AM

The text quoted here is "The Ploughboy" Songs of the People #780 (published 5th November 1938 - see pp 345-6 of Gale Huntington and Lani Herrman: Sam Henry's 'Songs of the People'

This was plainly John Faulkner's source and since he seems not to have had the grace to acknowledge it, it's difficult to fault other people for ignorance of its position.

The words Beaudangles couldn't make out are properly, in either case, his/her second suggestion.


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Subject: RE: lyrics required - build my love a castle at the edge of town
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 24 Jul 01 - 10:26 AM

Oddly enough, the text of Miner Lad that IanC mentioned earlier on was lifted from the DT.  There was a short discussion of a variant of The Ploughboy, sung by Lizzie Higgins, quite recently:  Lovely Molly - provenance?


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Subject: RE: lyrics required - build my love a castle at the edge of town
From: GUEST,BeauDangles
Date: 25 Jul 01 - 01:30 PM

Hey Joe,

Looking at the liner notes to the Kaulkner & Keane cd, I don't see much more than what John Molden already attested to. I'll quote everything John says about the piece.

"This sounds like a veiled reference to thte evictions and destruction in rural Ireland in the 19th Century. It is one of the things that attracted me to the song. This is another one from Sam Henry's collection and it came from Jock Smylie and Margaret Curry of Clough, Co. Antrim."

Sounds like it is trad to me. By the by, thanks to whomever reformatted my original response so that it showed up in proper verse form. If I was a little less lazy I woudl learn how to do that myself.

BeauD


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Subject: RE: lyrics required - build my love a castle at the edge of town
From: GUEST,BeauDangles
Date: 25 Jul 01 - 01:33 PM

Correction to verse 3. Line 2 should be:

"Where NEITHER lord, duke or earl..."

Sorry.

Beau


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