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'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2

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GeorgeH 09 Jul 01 - 05:56 AM
GUEST,Guest - Jim McDonald 13 Jul 01 - 06:45 AM
Kjell 13 Jul 01 - 07:18 AM
GeorgeH 13 Jul 01 - 09:13 AM
Ralphie 14 Jul 01 - 06:50 PM
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Subject: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: GeorgeH
Date: 09 Jul 01 - 05:56 AM

Started as a new thread because this was requested, because of the size of the original.

In this article Click here

I posted a summary of the "Dave Bulmer/Celtic Music saga.

With the exception that I have no firm knowledge that the man is litigatious I continue to believe that everything I said there is true, and that the article is as fair as it is possible to be . . .

Clearly I reject the summary of the article courtesty of Guest (Janet Ryan, I believe) which appears towards the end of that thread.

While there are Guests in that thread who have contributed constructively, there is one who has posted totally speculatively (she acknowledges that she knows nothing of the facts of this matter) to "argue" against what I posted.

That said, I do apologise for the loss of temper in the original thread.

However, I've said all I usefully can . . If anyone wants me to comment directly on any aspect of this they can either "personal message" me or email me . . . ghawesatadvaopticaldotcom.

Regards

George ps Don't forget this thread . .

Click for New Nic Jones (Double) CD

It's altogether more worthwhile!


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: GUEST,Guest - Jim McDonald
Date: 13 Jul 01 - 06:45 AM

Has anyone thought of doing a 'belt and braces' job on these recordings i.e. re-recording them from vinyl onto CD direct them marketing them and waiting for Bulmer to sue for breach of copyright? Prhaps the original owners of the works could do this themselves. It strikes me whilst the quality might not be as good it would get the material back out where it belongs and at the same time stick two fingers up to the fecker. Jim


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: Kjell
Date: 13 Jul 01 - 07:18 AM

Jim, I suggest you read through the first part of this thread, it has been mentioned before. I agree with the finger thing.
Kjell


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: GeorgeH
Date: 13 Jul 01 - 09:13 AM

Jim,

I sympathise with the sentiment . . but those I know who are involved in this feel they'd rather stay COMPLETELY on the right side of what's legal . . Which I think is entirely the best decision.

Certainly it's not a risk I'd take (and I'm less of a gentleman than those who are more closely involved) . . I might be prepared to risk getting myself sued if I thought there was a better than 59% chance I'd come out on top . . here, if I were to duplicate the stuff in this way I think, legally, I wouldn't have a leg to stand on . .

G.


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: Ralphie
Date: 14 Jul 01 - 06:50 PM

George...Quite correct.
Don't ever go there....not even in your thoughts.
Please hold yourself in check on all these matters in public forums, although your sentiments are much appreciated by me.
Regards Ralphie.....Keep hitting "Guest" though...Hugely funny!!!!


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: GUEST,Andy - Isle Of Man
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 03:50 AM

Dont forget that artsits have rights as well. Although bootlegging might be considered a dangerous route to take, the courts might well have sympathy with those who Bulmer has ridden roughshod over. Anyway, from what I read about this guy is that he is no stranger to illicit practice and might just open a big can of worms if he were to proced against people like Nic Jones. Surely Nic has a right to be heard on disc - that's what he does. Bulmer has very little justiication for "restraining" Nics trade. What do you think?


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: pavane
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 04:14 AM

Andy - I am not a lawyer, but I can't see how refusing to release old recordings would ever be classed as a restraint of trade.

I am firmly on the side of those seeking to get the Bulmerised recordings released, but I think we need a stronger case.

Unfair contracts can in some circumstances be overturned, but it would probably be difficult and costly, especially for contracts made over 20 years ago. Since he doesn't appear to paying royalties in some cases, there may be possibilites of breach of contract, but once again, it is one for the lawyers.


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Aug 01 - 07:25 PM

I agree that getting the Bulmer recordings re-released on CD would be great.

Has anybody tried approaching Bulmer and asking for what price he would consider selling the rights to some of these recordings would be ?

Surely a big bag of money would motivate the bloke.


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: GUEST,Andy, Isle Of Man
Date: 12 Aug 01 - 04:12 AM

I appreciate all that has been said about this guy who is by all accounts (allegedly) simply a crook. But all your letters, with some exceptions, seem to have a problem for all solutions! Certainly Nic Jones' trade HAS been restrined. Nic has been effectively incapacitated for many years and his earning power has been his recordings. Anyone acquiring rights, in turn has a duty to exploit those recordings for the benefit of all involved????? You're gonna have to meet Bulmer head on, that's for sure and very soon, so I hear, he may not have quite the power to commence litigation that he formerly had. Keep your eyes on the UK Legal Gazette!


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: pavane
Date: 12 Aug 01 - 05:45 AM

Nic's income has been restrained, not his trade. The fact that he is unable to continue in his trade due to accident is quite separate from his rights to income from recordings made previously (IMHO). Sadly, no leg to stand on there, I think. Will you post any links to the Legal Gazzette when appropriate?


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: GUEST,Andy
Date: 12 Aug 01 - 05:52 AM

Sure will.


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: GeorgeH
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 08:22 AM

Andy IOM - it's not true to say Dave Bulmer is a crook, leastways not in legal terms, which is all the courts recognise. Please believe me when I say that a number of those involved have explored all possible avenues.

I posted the account of Dave Bumer/Celtic Music for people's information as it was clear that some 'catters were not aware of the situation. The information may affect whether or not you want to do business with Celtic Music (which company appears not to be registered at Companies House, by the way . .) It's why I don't own Bright Phoebus, for example.

Things have got very heated in the discussions (yup, I'm heavily at fault there - sorry). However the artists most significantly involved accept the situation as it is and we must do the same. Failing to do so has served to increase the anguish for some of those involved more closely than me, which is where I do feel guilty . .

That said, at Sidmouth it was wonderful to see Nic Jones on stage, with Tony Rose (and Tony's family), for the final song of the Tony Rose benefit concert. Sometimes, life really does seem good.

George


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: pavane
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 08:45 AM

GeorgeH, if it is not a UK limited company or PLC, then I don't think it has to be registered at Companies House. But in that case it does't have the benefits of limited liability either.


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: GUEST,GavDav in Sheffield
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 10:18 AM

on an alternative tack, if Dave B reckons he'll reissue when all the old stock has gone, how much does he want for the lot on vinyl? how many copies does he have? a few hundred of each?

some philanthropist or group of entrepreneurs could call his bluff on that one and just take all the stock off his hands...

except I think it may indeed be bluff...still, it would be another hole in his argument.

sigh...


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: GUEST,Max in Louth
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 10:21 AM

The trading term Celtic Music is used by Bulmer for his company Celtic Records Ltd - they are most certainly a limited company and accounts are freely available at Companies House. It may be interesting to see what they reveal! I heard that the company is nearly bankrupt and with few assets. If this is so, how has he hived off the value of all the copyrights that Celtic own? Perhaps they were actually "sold" to another Bulmer/Sharpley company!!! Trawl thr the Companies House database, for free, and you may find some interesting companies with similar names owned by him/them.

Also interested Intrigued to know that Bulmer may be soon to be less than relaxed at litigation. Can you give more clues??


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: GeorgeH
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 10:39 AM

GavDave:

With many of the sought-after titles there's no vinyl stock remaining, and hasn't been for many years. And, indeed, some releases have "trickled" out from the Bulmer vaults in recent years.

G.


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: pavane
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 10:41 AM

As I understand company law (although not a lawyer, I have been running a Ltd company for 19 years), you cannot just transfer assets between companies, they have to be valued and sold at a fair market rate. Depending on the circustances, undervaluing assets in order to sell them cheaply to another company (whether you own it or not) may come under the heading of tax evasion, which is illegal, or fraud, if it is in order to remove them from the reach of creditors.

But it would all depend who values them. I imagine there is some uncertainty in the value of a copyright. I can imagine an arguement running as follows 'We haven't sold any for x years, therefore the copyright is worthless'.


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: GUEST,Max in Louth
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 12:52 PM

CM Records Ltd is the actual name of the company. Its owned by Bulmer and Sharpley and the accounts - qualified by their auditor, make grim readng. The "qualifiction" means that the auditor is unable to warrant the accuracy of the document. The auditor, strangely, uses the word fraud, as does pavane!!

Assets cn be striped effortlessly by "businessmen" who care not for the niceties which pavane creditably relates to. Copyrights have value, and I understand, an increasing value over time. Where do these valuable assets vanish to at CM, I wonder?????

Rest assured they have been hived off.


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: pavane
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 01:08 PM

I get enough grief from the IR when trading normally and legally. So where are their inspectors when we need them?


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: pavane
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 01:09 PM

Silly question. Like the Trffic cops, they are picking the easy targets.


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: Ralphie
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 06:15 PM

Max
Need to talk to you
Ralph


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: Gareth
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 07:59 PM

I have been following this saga with some interest.

We have statements that all possible avenues have been explored - fine I an sure that the suits have done their digging - for various non folk music reasons I am going into Companies house Cardiff in the next week or two to do some digging. Could I have some info from catters on Celtic Music / Dave Boulmer.

It doesn't matter how trivial or petty or disconnected it may be. Its when you put it all together that the result may come on top

Question - Boulmer ?? known associates and thier rough addresses ???

Qustion - Celtic Music ?? Known associated companies or organisations.

Question - Celtic Music known bankers ??

Question - The Scotish shop ?? Name ?? Address ?? Rough date of closure ??

If confidential or embarrasing or libelous please use PM - if need be request that I Incinerate off my hard disc. I have a couple of very good file shredders.

I can not promise a result but lets see what there is, and see if it can be legally used.

Gareth


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: Ralphie
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 08:07 PM

Gareth...For far too many reasons, I can't get involved.
But I wish you luck..Let me know what occurs.
Regards Ralphie


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: GUEST,Dita (at work)
Date: 13 Aug 01 - 08:12 PM

The Scottish shop was called

Real Music, 23, Parnie Street, Glasgow, G1.

Closed between Oct & Dec 2000, most likely late Nov.

love, john.


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: GUEST,Max in Louth
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 01:58 AM

To Gareth: You don't need to go to Companies House. Go to the Company House Web site. Go to SEARCH, type in CM RECORDS, click on Reg Number when it appears and you will get basic info. You may then order direct from their site. You can get (a) accounts (b) Annual Return and Directors Reports. These can be downloaded in a few moments for payment by your Credit or Switch Card. You will be AMAZED by what you will find! You will discover the companies that your man is involved in, and on checking further you will find how many of them are doing OK - not many. Again, where have the assets and cash from these companies been going?

To Ralphie: Gie me a contact phone number and/oe e-mail please.


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: Ralphie
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 02:57 AM

Max
Ralph.Jordan@bbc.co.uk
See Ya
R


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: GeorgeH
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 09:03 AM

A note of caution, guys (and with all respect to Gareth) - please be very careful you know who you are communicating with before you divulge anything to anyone. Mr Bulmer has been known to monitor newsgroups, etc. - and I suspect he was feeding information into an earlier discussion here.

Of course he already knows whatever you may know about him . . . but it's still probably better that he doesn't know how much you know . . .

Regards

George


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: Gareth
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 02:02 PM

GeorgeH - concur - but lets go fishing first, see what we have and then decide how and when it might be used/disemenated. Caution is a must which is why I ask anything that might be confidential be PM'ed.

Gareth.


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 06:55 PM

Department of Trade has power to wind up companies for a numebr of reasons if you can persuade them. Saves doing it yourself. THen you can buy assets from someone who deals fairly transparently.


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: Gareth
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 07:17 PM

Agreed Richard, but we need proper cause !!!

Info still wanted.

Gareth


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: GUEST
Date: 14 Aug 01 - 09:19 PM

That's grand of you Gareth.

And to think Nic has George and Ralphie to thank for all this.


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: GUEST,FRIEND!
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 04:13 AM

Company Details To display those company products available to purchase, please select the order button. (£50 max. order limit) Name & Registered Office : C M RECORDS LIMITED C/O WEAVER WROOT PAWNSHOP PASSAGE MERCER ROW LOUTH LINCOLNSHIRE LN11 9JQ Status :Active Company No. :01695834 Date of Incorporation : 01/02/1983 Country of Origin : United Kingdom Company Type: Private Limited Company Nature Of Business (SIC(92)): 2214 - publishing of sound recordings 2231 - reproduction of sound recording 5170 - other wholesale 7484 - other business activities Accounting Reference Date : 30/04 Last Accounts Made Up To : 30/04/1999 (SMALL) Next Accounts Due : 28/02/2001 OVERDUE Last Return Made Up To : 05/05/2001 Next Return Due : 02/06/2002 Last Members List : 05/05/2001 Fiche Weeded On : 26/03/1998 Previous Names No previous name information has been recorded over the last 20 years. Branch Details There are no branches associated with this company. Oversea Company Information There are no Oversea Details associated with this company. SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: Gareth
Date: 15 Aug 01 - 02:49 PM

Guest Friend

Noted in the navt term good bracket

G


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: Gareth
Date: 22 Aug 01 - 06:14 PM

Last call for info before I spend my day in Companies House. If it confidential please PM me

regards Gareth


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: GUEST,FRIEND
Date: 23 Aug 01 - 02:59 AM

For Gareth:

CM RECORDS LTD 1695834;LOYALWARE LTD 3083763; LOUTH FESTIVAL SOCIETY LTD 02524497; CELTIC VISIONS LTD 3026980; LOUTH ARCHITECTURAL HERITAGE FOUNDATION LTD 3734666; SHARPLEY COURT LTD 03371734; DREWE MANAGEMENT LTD 04017687; PR RECORDS LTD 1412041

All are companies owned by Sharpley and Bulmer as partners or independently. There are also many other partnerships that are not Ltd Co's so you may have trouble with these. Try: GOLDEN OLDIES LTD as well, and another called FOLKMENT LTD

You might note that whilst one company appears to be losing money, others seem to acquire funds almost to the same value!

Good luck


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: GUEST,Max in Louth
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 06:02 AM

I thought that Mudcat subscribers might like to see an item that appeared in our local paper last weeek. Mr N Sharpley is a Director of CM Records Ltd and the poisonous end of Mr Bulmers love of litigation. The article, is of course, in the public domain: THE LOUTH LEADER 29th AUGUST 2001

Solicitors to face accounting tribunal

Solicitors Neil and Jeremy Sharpley are facing a disciplinary tribunal on September 18.

The inquiry will be held by the Office for the Supervision of Solicitors, which deprived the Sharpleys of their Louth-based firm Allison and Helmer in June last year.

Neil, who is the Louth district coroner, said they would be answering several allegations of breaches of accounting rules. "We understand none of the allegations arise from complaints by clients," he said. The Sharpleys may also raise human rights issues about the way their case has been handled.

The OSS made an intervention order in May last year which resulted in the Sharpleys transferring Allison and Helmer's business to Thimbleby Fisher of Spilsby.

An OSS spokesman said then that intervention orders were made only when they were thought necessary for the protection of the public and there was serious ground for concern, but the Sharpleys were "technically innocent" until a hearing was held.

The Sharpley's immediate response to the order was to condemn it as "grossly unfair", describing it as "the equivalent of summary execution without a trial".

The case does not concern Mr Sharpley's role as coroner.


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 11:21 AM

Sure, and doesn't that explain everything?


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 12:25 PM

Celtic Music Records Ltd
North Works
Hookstone Park
Harrogate
North Yorkshire
HG2 7DB
(D. Bulmers Direct Line 01423 888979)

David L Bulmer
63A Beech Road
Harrogate
North Yorkshire
HG2 8DZ
Tel 01423 879353


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: GUEST,FRIEND
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 01:04 PM

To the guest immediately above, your Mr David L Bulmer is NOT our man! Our man is Mr David Robert Bulmer who lives in Knaresborough!!


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: GUEST
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 01:24 PM

David R Bulmer
Roskilde House
York Road
Knaresborough
North Yorkshire
HG5 0SW
Tel 01423 866538


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: Gareth
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 02:19 PM

I have the records - I am slowley wading through them.

Gareth


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: Gareth
Date: 04 Sep 01 - 02:20 PM

I have the records - I am slowley wading through them.

Gareth


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: GeorgeH
Date: 06 Sep 01 - 07:36 AM

Good luck . . our good wishes (and gratitude) are with you!

George


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 06 Sep 01 - 08:42 PM


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: GeorgeH
Date: 07 Sep 01 - 07:42 AM

Sorry, Geoff, didn't quite catch that!! ;-)

G.


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: GUEST,Andy, Port Erin,, Isle Of Man
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 04:25 AM

Gareth - any conclusions from your trip to Companies House?


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: Gareth
Date: 16 Sep 01 - 01:33 PM

Not yet for publication.

Gareth


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: GUEST,Max in Louth
Date: 18 Sep 01 - 02:36 PM

18 September 2001

My solicitor has just called to say that in proceedings today against Mr Neil Sharpley brought by the Law Society, Mr Bulmers' partner has been STUCK OFF as a solicitor!!!

Amongst several very serious complaints against him (and his brother) was DISHONESTY. In short they had, it has been proved, the "dipped the till" of many thousanbds of pounds of clients money.

Take heart all you musos who have been screwed around by Bulmer and his pernicious, dishonest solicitor. Now he will be forced to put his hand in his pocket - and we all know he's allergic to doing that sort of thing!

GO FOR IT!


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: GUEST,Max
Date: 18 Sep 01 - 02:38 PM

Sorry everybody. In my delerium I wrote that Sharpley had been STUCK OFF. It should read STRUCK OFF.

Perhaps STUCK OFF is better!


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Subject: RE: 'Celtic Music/Dave Bulmer' saga: Pt 2
From: Noreen
Date: 18 Sep 01 - 05:47 PM

Oh! Thanks, Max, for letting us know... that's a surprise.


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