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Songs that everyone likes but you

mousethief 26 Jun 01 - 12:48 PM
Kim C 26 Jun 01 - 12:50 PM
GUEST,BLind DRunk in Blind River 26 Jun 01 - 01:02 PM
bill\sables 26 Jun 01 - 02:19 PM
Matt_R 26 Jun 01 - 02:27 PM
Clinton Hammond 26 Jun 01 - 03:19 PM
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Subject: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: mousethief
Date: 26 Jun 01 - 12:48 PM

This is meant to sort of be a rejoinder to "songs that no one likes but you."

Are there songs that seem to be universally acclaimed, everyone loves them, they're absolute classics, but you just don't see what all the shouting is about? Maybe you don't hate it outright (or maybe you do!) -- but it just doesn't seem worth the hooplah that seems to attend it?

And now that I ask, my brain has done a complete funk on me, and refuses to cough up any examples. But I'm sure ya'll will think up some!

Alex


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: Kim C
Date: 26 Jun 01 - 12:50 PM

Eighteen Wheels and a Dozen Roses. I really don't care about Charlie's gold watch.


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: GUEST,BLind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 26 Jun 01 - 01:02 PM

Uhhhhhhh

Well, geeez...

Uhhhhhhh

Eat me! I'm gonna go have a beer instead, eh...

Talk about yere stupid questions!

BDiBR


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: bill\sables
Date: 26 Jun 01 - 02:19 PM

Wild Rover


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: Matt_R
Date: 26 Jun 01 - 02:27 PM

The Thong Song!


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 26 Jun 01 - 03:19 PM

The Unicorn
There Were Roses
My Grandfathers Clock
7 Drunken Nights!!!
The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald

And well, I have to admit to being pretty damn sick of Barrettes Privateers too... but that's over-exposure...

;-)


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: mousethief
Date: 26 Jun 01 - 03:39 PM

I'm not a big fan of the Wreck of the E.F. either. Lousy melody IMHO.

Alex


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 26 Jun 01 - 04:06 PM

I'll say this for Wreck... it's 4 good chords...


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: gnu
Date: 26 Jun 01 - 04:17 PM

Had me half fisted about Barrett's Privateers for a minute minute there. Among my Irish Trad friends, none. I guess you'd really have to hate a song to post it here. So EF wouldn't really count, NOW WOULD IT ??!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 26 Jun 01 - 04:25 PM

Count as a song I hate? EF sure does count!

Blech!

ya want to hear a GOOD song on that theme, listen to James Keelaghan's "Captain Torres"... now THAT'S a shipwreck song!

Add to my list most of that 80's pop-crap that's resurging these days!! Urlp!


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: mousethief
Date: 26 Jun 01 - 04:43 PM

Well, gnu, according to my initial post, you don't have to hate it, you just have to wonder what others see in it.

I'd count virtually anything by The Who in that category, too.

Alex


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: gnu
Date: 26 Jun 01 - 04:51 PM

Well, there's lots of stuff I don't care for that they play over and over on various radio stations, but the list is just too long. Perhaps that's why you couldn't come up with any examples in your initial post ?


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: Matt_R
Date: 26 Jun 01 - 04:52 PM

Them's fightin' words!! Have you ever heard "The Song Is Over" or "Gettin' In Tune"?


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 26 Jun 01 - 05:35 PM

When I was young and fresh and innocent, singing folksongs in the early 50s, I sang Streets of Laredo a lot. And it was requested a lot.

I think I'd rather cut my throat than sing Streets of Laredo today. Just too, too, too, too much exposure, I suppose.

Also, among people of a certain age range, it's too durn well known. I like to sing something that's relatively fresh, that's going to make its impression based on _MY_ rendition. For the same reason (though less vehemently) I avoid This Land is My Land and some others.

Dave Oesterreich


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: Snuffy
Date: 26 Jun 01 - 06:10 PM

Bill, Wild Rover will fit into both categories - as far as most folkies are concerned it's a definite no-no, and as far as the great British public is concerned, it is the ONLY folk song there is.

I wouldn't dare sing it at a folkie gathering (but I did sing Wild Roving No More at Alcester this weekend), but we don't half belt it out with the morris men if we get a song session going in a pub.


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: ddw
Date: 26 Jun 01 - 09:51 PM

The mind boggles at the list.....

And right at the top is ANYTHING by the Beatles and most things by John Denver.

david


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: SINSULL
Date: 26 Jun 01 - 09:57 PM

FEELINGS, WHOA WHOA WHOA FEEEEEELINGS WHOA WHOA WHOA...


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: Matt_R
Date: 26 Jun 01 - 09:57 PM

Ah yes.

"I hate (fill in song/singer/musical genre/race/nationality/race/religion/political affliliation here) !"


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: toadfrog
Date: 26 Jun 01 - 10:05 PM

All macho whaling songs.

Especially "Rolling down to old Maui!

All parodies of "Rolling Down to old Maui!

"The Mary Ellen Carter!"

"Blowin' in the Wind"


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Jun 01 - 11:15 PM

I'LL FLY AWAY. I suppose it is over-exposure because I do remember singing it a lot in the 50s-60s but gah!.

Even worse is when someone sings 'Some glad morning when this life is over...' I always listen to see if they're going to sing '...to a home on God's celestial shover...'

And I SAW THE LIGHT.

Ebbie


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: mousethief
Date: 26 Jun 01 - 11:25 PM

I see, Matt, that you're superior enough to us to look down your nose at us, but not enough not to join in.

Alex


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: GUEST,mgarvey@pacifier.com
Date: 26 Jun 01 - 11:52 PM

Barrett's Privateers. How can I keep from singing. Bright morning stars. mg


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: GUEST,The Duck of the Irish
Date: 26 Jun 01 - 11:57 PM

Nobody mentioned American Pie. When I hear this song, I wish I was dead.


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 27 Jun 01 - 12:28 AM

Puff, the Magic Dragon. There! I've said it in public! Yet there are other cloyingly cute saccharine slops that I DO like. Go figure.

Sandy


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: Deni
Date: 27 Jun 01 - 12:57 AM

At our local club, the Hyde folk, when anyone sings the Feilds of Athenry, some people start growling, but being relatively new to the folk scene, it's a novelty to me! It's mostly about overplayed songs. Cheers D


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: toadfrog
Date: 27 Jun 01 - 01:26 AM

Yeah! Fields of Athenry! Why didn't I think of that?


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 27 Jun 01 - 01:30 AM

I knew the Fields would pop up here sooner or later....

My personal favourite 'loathe' is "Floor o' Scootlan'", sung by a solo singer, band or the entire stand of Cardiff Arms Park when Wales play Scotland, either way, it's detestable.

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: Mudlark
Date: 27 Jun 01 - 02:23 AM

Yes, definitely Puff...and Blowin in the Wind, and This Land is your Land, and just about any song from the 50's/60's that became over popularized, like Lemon Tree and If I had a Hammer....Aghhhh...Trini Lopez!


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 27 Jun 01 - 03:11 AM

danny boy...

And matt... nowhere is it written that says one must like everything or everyone... free will entails the right to like and dislike...

Anybody who says they like everything is just too weak willed to have an opinion...


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: Aidan Crossey
Date: 27 Jun 01 - 04:15 AM

Deni's comment is quite enlightening, I think! I know that there are songs I've been over-exposed to. I also know that I'm guilty as anyone of elitism (or niche-ism as I like to call it).

However ... here's some of my list of no-nos (all of which could conceivably be heard at some folky gathering ... don't get me started on other genres!). There are others that make me want to leave the room puking and howling, but I can't think of them at the moment.

Fields of Athenry Ride On Boys From The County Armagh Danny Boy Alice (where did that re-emerge from?) My Lagan Love Star of the County Down Sweet Sixteen, I Will Love You, etc. as sung by Finbar Furey when he decided to disown his outstanding talent on the pipes and trade it for an opportunity to croon dirges Scorn Not His Simplicity (Sorry ... there are people who swear blind that this is insightful and enlightening. Nah ... doesn't do it for me. I get a buzz out of Luke's voice. But I could probably listen to Luke singing Old MacDonald and get a buzz.) The Town I Love So Well A Woman's Heart Song For Ireland

I'll stop now. Gotta listen to Paddy Tunney or Len Graham to clear my head.

Pay The Reckoning


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: kendall
Date: 27 Jun 01 - 08:32 AM

I detest ALL rap, and most pop pap. My brothers like to bug me with "Fox with the runs" "Poor Elaine Smith" "Footprints in the snow" etc. such truck for relatives of mine to pollute the air with. Someone once called folk music, "Heavy MENTAL" If a song has nothing to say, I dont listen. It needs more than an endless repeating of ..yeah yeah baby, dont mean maybe..GAG!! MIND TWINKIES!


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: pattyClink
Date: 27 Jun 01 - 09:54 AM

Kilkelly, 'specially when someone can run it out a full 15 minutes, AND adds a smarmy patronizing historical intro as well.

Amazing Grace, 'specially when groaned slowly by a large crowd for a hundred verses. Anybody who plays it at my funeral on the #*(!% bagpipes, I'm coming back from hell to getcha!


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: davidg
Date: 27 Jun 01 - 10:44 AM

"Dock of the Bay" by Michael Bolton...no wait...nobody likes that.


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: guinnesschik
Date: 27 Jun 01 - 10:58 AM

Garth Brooks' "Ireland." Geeze, what a load of crap! Dixie Chicks' "Fly" and "Goodbye Earl." ALL music represented in commercials and most on television...except Austin City Limits.

Tim O'Brien singing about Ireland is a completely different experience.

And actually, I love those crappy traditional songs like "Wild Rover," 'cause the audience ALWAYS sings with, claps, dances, and has a wonderful time. Makes performing a more communal experience.


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: GUEST,Walking Eagle
Date: 27 Jun 01 - 11:26 AM

Some Stephen Foster songs. EF. I happen to like Killkelly. I REALLY dislike Dead Teenagers songs like Laura, The Leader of the Pack. A lot of early 60's crap. Shall I continue? I think not.


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: ChanteyMatt
Date: 27 Jun 01 - 11:43 AM

Anything by Barry Manilow!! I can't STAND him! Unfortunately, my ex-wife thought he was wonderful. That's why I'm single (well, one of the reasons).

Mind Twinkies?


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: mousethief
Date: 27 Jun 01 - 12:19 PM

Kendall, what you said reminds me of that quote from Tom Lehrer: If somebody doesn't have anything to say, the least they can do is shut up.

Alex


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: Grab
Date: 27 Jun 01 - 12:55 PM

Flight of the Earls pisses me off something chronic. Much Oasis (sorry Matt! :-) Just about any country song featuring pickup trucks or rodeos.

And Whitney sodding Houston. During "I will alwaaays lurve yeeewww", a workmate summed her up perfectly: "Someone fill that girl's gob with quick-drying cement and do the world a favour".

Graham.


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: Jingle
Date: 27 Jun 01 - 01:41 PM

My pet hate is "Where do you go to my lovely" - especially the bits sung with a pseudo French accent, but the worst, the very worst bit is "for a laugh har ha haaar"!!! Anyone who sings this song in my presence may well get a 21 bar autoharp shoved where the sun don't shine, so be warned!


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: Walking Eagle
Date: 27 Jun 01 - 03:27 PM

I forgot, how I could I? Kenney G or ANYTHING Smooth Jazz! What a waste of fine instruments, music paper, recording studio time - - Everything! Pity, I used to like soprano saxaphones!


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: GUEST,kendall
Date: 27 Jun 01 - 04:02 PM

It's all a matter of opinion, and, even Matt has that right.


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 27 Jun 01 - 04:07 PM

Good to know I'm not the only one who hates "Goodbye Earl"

If Chris Rock and Snoop got together and recorded a song called "I Shot The Mo-Fo Ho", can you imagine the hew and the cry!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Please...


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: RangerSteve
Date: 27 Jun 01 - 06:02 PM

I'm glad someone mentioned The Unicorn in the beginning of this thread. How about Tie Me Kangaroo Down? For a couple of years at Boy Scout camp that one was sung to death. The Edmond Fitzgerald wouldn't be a bad song if there was a bridge in the melody, but there isn't, and it just goes on and on and on and on for all 100 (it seems) verses. Will the Circle be Unbroken is morbid. All blue grass songs about dead mothers are morbid. All old-time country songs about dying children, (Little Joe, Little Bessie, etc) where the kids get philosophical about death should be illegal. Dueling Banjos and Foggy Mt. Breakdown are ok tunes, but no great. Just because they were featured in movies doesn't mean every banjo player loves them. Mostly, we hate them, so stop asking me (or any other banjo player) to play them.


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: mousethief
Date: 27 Jun 01 - 06:04 PM

EF would be better if the two halves of a verse were more dissimilar. It's the same 8 note descending scale, over and over and over and over and over and over and -- AUGH!

Alex


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: Joe_F
Date: 27 Jun 01 - 06:33 PM

"Puff, the Magic Dragon" is rescued from cloyingness, for me, by the subversive line "A dragon lives forever, but not so little boys", which identifies growing up with death.

However, there is one song, popular in circles I have frequented, that I find to be so utterly bad that I will retreat to the kitchen rather than sing it: "Harriet Tubman".


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: Whistle Stop
Date: 28 Jun 01 - 08:03 AM

Positively Fourth Street. I'm a big admirer of Bob Dylan, and this one is from the time when his creative powers were at their peak. But I find the lyrics uninspired, with none of the wit that Dylan is known for, and the music is maddeningly redundant.


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: KingBrilliant
Date: 28 Jun 01 - 08:44 AM

I really can't stand anything by The Beatles. Until I hear them done well by someone else - then I like them, but actually performed by The Beatles ....eurghhhh.
Some friends of mine are very keen on Nowhere Man, and I had to really really grit my teeth to sing that one with them. Its strange, because I will admit its a nice song to sing, but I just can't bear to hear it.
When my sister's friends came over from Japan, this was one of a relatively few English songs he was really confident on (he's a brilliant performer, but does mostly his own [very good]songs). So we did Nowhere Man loads of times - and he pretty much rehabilitated it for me.

Kris


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: fat B****rd
Date: 28 Jun 01 - 09:40 AM

bohemian rhapsody, and I don't care how much money people make by performing etc what I can't stand


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: LR Mole
Date: 28 Jun 01 - 10:21 AM

"Wonderful Tonight" and "Stormy Monday"because they're so...slow...and...predictable...


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Subject: RE: BS: Songs that everyone likes but you
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Jun 01 - 11:01 AM

well, LOTS of those noted above..Kilkelly and "Puff" and others...but so far not mentioned:

"A Place in the Choir" (All God's Critters)
"Will My Soul Pass Thru the Southland" (The Rebel Soldier)
"Lovely Agnes"..my wearyness with this was so well known, that at a sing one time, a woman said she was going to sing the song, but first she had to 'protect' someone....and she got up, walked over, and handed me a pair of ear plugs...*grin*

(a lot of songs are 'ok' if not overdone to death...but some are unbearable about ½ way thru the 2nd hearing. This applies to a maddening little thing by Sally Rogers..."Circle of the Sun", which starts out with a bouncy little tune and and interesting metaphor, and quickly nosedives into a vapid, sing-songy, repetitive, poorly constructed, badly timed mish-mash of wannabe clichés.)....(oh, I don't like it, either)


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